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Next-Gen: PS4 & Xbox 720 'Will Need Lower Price Points At Launch'

NowGamer: Just how expensive will Sony's PS4 and Microsoft's Xbox 720 be when they launch? Hopefully, not too expensive.

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Dylila4067d ago

the consoles need to be very powerful with as many features as possible to improve gaming over all. we dont need barely capable consoles which arent much more powerful than ps3 and xbox because there would be a lot of sort comings in gaming tech and generation wouldnt be long.

look at the support of the wii u. other than most third parties not supporting the system the system is too weak to get most games that will be on xbox 720 and ps4. core gamers who follow gaming trends and buy the top end gaming systems arent content with playing games with tech theyve been playing for over 7 years on ps3 and xbox.

the xbox 720 and ps4 should be very powerful, play all back catalog of older games discs and digital , have a lot of the expected features along with new ones and be priced around 500quid. im a gamer so ill buy a quality system

000014066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. if gamers care about power and the latest hardware, YOU BUY A PC. please stop bashing video game systems just because you game for the wrong reasons. all gaming systems have there strengths and weaknesses all aiming at different experiences. stop being a troll.

thehitman4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

Sorry I disagree with the statement if gamers care about latest hardware and power "You buy a PC". I bought a PC hell i built it a more powerful one than my ps3 and probably just as powerful as the ps4 and that was 3 years ago, granted at more than double the cost. PC gaming is not the be and end all of gaming its far from it. PC gaming lacks direction, optimization and has been a huge mess for quite some time now which is why consoles is the highly favorite of choice for gaming.

I do want my console to be as powerful as possible because that's where the best games in the industry are made by the best developers. That's why I like Sony they try to put out the best they can with what they can no matter what for the gamer. However I dont really care about things like BC because at launch I buy a new console to play NEW games not the same old 1s so if they cut those things to cut price im all for it. Even though I would buy another 600 dollar ps at launch no hesitation im sure Sony is looking to cut 50-100 dollars off the ps3 launch prices to make up for the lost market share of this current gen.

SatanSki4066d ago

"please stop bashing video game systems just because you game for the wrong reasons."

Im speechless

MikeMyers4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

thehitman,
"I bought a PC hell i built it a more powerful one than my ps3 and probably just as powerful as the ps4 and that was 3 years ago, granted at more than double the cost. PC gaming is not the be and end all of gaming its far from it. PC gaming lacks direction, optimization and has been a huge mess for quite some time now which is why consoles is the highly favorite of choice for gaming.

I do want my console to be as powerful as possible because that's where the best games in the industry are made by the best developers. That's why I like Sony they try to put out the best they can with what they can no matter what for the gamer. However I dont really care about things like BC because at launch I buy a new console to play NEW games not the same old 1s so if they cut those things to cut price im all for it. Even though I would buy another 600 dollar ps at launch no hesitation im sure Sony is looking to cut 50-100 dollars off the ps3 launch prices to make up for the lost market share of this current gen."

Hold on a minute, you chastise the PC for not having a clear direction and optimization yet you don't mention the problems we saw on the PS3 where developers struggled and how backwards compatibility became an issue because of hardware changes?

Both consoles and PC's have their strengths and weaknesses. The consoles get more marketing, that's where huge companies like Sony and Microsoft and Nintendo spend a lot of money with advertising. We don't see it as much on the PC because those 3 major companies want you to buy their hardware. Yes consoles are more optimized and yes they are less costly to get started. However when I see games like Battlefield 3 simply blow away what can be done on the consoles I laugh at all the arguments we see on how powerful the PS3 was compared to the Xbox 360. Now we are already seeing that fanboy talk before the next gen even begins with people once again clamoring how the next Xbox is going to be weaker because of the RAM. Console owners need to stop acting like elitists if they don't want PC gamers to get involved.

The PC offers far more freedom and choice. The problem is developers often don't want to utilize what it can do fully. Just like how some developers didn't fully exploit the PS3. The other downside to the PC is also economics. You won't see a developer like the ones who created Dark Souls putting all of their emphasis on a PC version because they don't have the experience. It's also about sales. I would imagine Dark Souls sold a hell of a lot more on consoles than the PC and we may be seeing that shift happen in PC games like Call of Duty now. That is largely because of Microsoft marketing and making the series more mainstream.

But then you have games like World of Warcraft that blow most console games out of the water sales wise. So when it's done right (marketing and designed for the PC) PC games can sell well. I think even Diablo III sold very well even with all the controversy surrounding it's DRM.

thehitman4065d ago

Mike,
"The PC offers far more freedom and choice. The problem is developers often don't want to utilize what it can do fully. Just like how some developers didn't fully exploit the PS3. The other downside to the PC is also economics. You won't see a developer like the ones who created Dark Souls putting all of their emphasis on a PC version because they don't have the experience. It's also about sales. I would imagine Dark Souls sold a hell of a lot more on consoles than the PC and we may be seeing that shift happen in PC games like Call of Duty now. That is largely because of Microsoft marketing and making the series more mainstream."

The problem w/ PC gaming is it offers TOO much freedom and TOO much choice. That is the Achilles heel of PC gaming and the reason why it will always struggle besides the MMO market that seems to be the only thing going for PC gaming keeping it alive and the few other games like League of Legends that emerge. Developers arent lazy to optimize its just too dam hard for them to optimize for every piece of new hardware that comes out each and every year. Everything has almost their own set of drivers and things they have to take into account new hardware comes out after they make games they have to take that into account. I believe that having the best piece of hardware always is a double edge sword at the moment of pc gaming. It slows down development and the time developers should be spending time optimizing their engines to produce more efficient better quality games they have to rely more on the raw power of the hardware. Then they have to ship unpolished games and fix it later. Also a lot of your "freedom" has and will continue to be restricted with drm.

Only strength pc gaming to me is RTS games and MMOs which require keyboard and mouse.

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T9004066d ago

"the consoles need to be very powerful"

In relation to what? the out going gen or current low end Mid range PCs?

"play all back catalog of older games discs and digital"

BC is pretty much dead in the water, Architectures have completely changed since the last gen hence BC is out the window.

People want the consoles to be cheap plus be powerful and have BC, i honestly think they are demanding a bit too much.

If all you want is a powerful machine with BC then really PC is the only option here.

Thatguy-3104066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

This article is dumb. Everyone knows that sony and Microsoft won't release cheap consoles just to have a low price point. Both sony and Microsoft released there consoles this gen with 400$+ and look how well they did. Nintendo on the other hand is a different story. They don't have the hard core support to help them out when releasing expensive consoles

MikeMyers4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

Not true. The Xbox 360 came out with an entry price of $299 and the pro model for $399 which included a hard drive. By comparison the PS3 came out starting at $499 without wi-fi and the pro model for $599.

I expect both the PS4 and next Xbox to have two models once again. I also expect them all to be priced between $399 and $499 for the pro models and Microsoft might do something different, have the option of a contract based system where the upfront cost is low but with a 2 or 3 year term attached like we see with cellphones.

Having a starting price point for the next consoles at $500 or more wouldn't go over very well.

alousow4067d ago

400 for ps4 im bying, 500 for ps4 im buying, 600 for ps4 im buying. 600 for more kinect im not buying 500 for more kinect im not buying 400 for more kinect im not buying lol

ApolloTheBoss4066d ago

$0 for Kinect I'm not buying.

SDF Repellent4066d ago

@alousow,

How about a Sony logo underwear for $500? Are you buying?

cayleee4066d ago

OMG where can i get one of those. Thats such a bargain.

Dailynch4066d ago

Sell them like phones. Give them away free with an Xbox Live subscription fee!

KillrateOmega4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

Man, I hope the PS4 and Nextbox aren't too expensive at launch.

MasterCornholio4066d ago

This depends on a lot of things like for example what the hardware will be like and if there is a good library of games that will make the consoles worth buying.

Just because the Wii U isnt selling to well in the market doesnt mean that the 720 and the PS4 will suffer the same fate. If Sony can manage to price their console at 400€ (for example) and release it with a great line up of games then the system will not suffer the same fate as the Wii U. However if Sony goes nuts and sells it at 700€ (like some desperate Nintendo fanboys are claiming) with a poor line up of games (with heavy 3rd party support i doubt that will happen) then the console will sell miserably in the market.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers19h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken6h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g15h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing15h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H915h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola11h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66914h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle14h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 6h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 4h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 1h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN18h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo20h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies16h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 4h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic14h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9013h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 5h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 5h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 2h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 4h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 4h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 7h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 7h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 2h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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