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How Microsoft Can Top the PlayStation Conference

The PlayStation 4 reveal yesterday was impressive and threw down a gauntlet. How can Microsoft steal the show from Sony?

DaThreats4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

1. Dont focus on Kinect crap

2. Give exclusives besides Halo, Forza, Alan Wake, and Fable.

3. Match power or higher of PS4

4. Give low price point

5. Not show Next Xbox is just a fancy cable box

6. Playing online free

7. Able to play used games and not always having to be on internet

Dante1124098d ago

By making Live free. If they don't I'm not buying their next gen console.

LOGICWINS4098d ago

Not making Live free this gen would be the dumbest move.

-Alpha4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Microsoft wont abandon the profits. If they can keep their brand perception ahead, then they can continue getting away with charging for LIVE. I am expecting some solid OS features and app partnerships that can take MS a long way when it comes to being a family-oriented entertainment hub. If they can make those new consumers pay for an XBL subscription, then there wont be a necessity to go free to access LIVE.

Skips4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Agreed, if PSN is free. (Basic online MP) while XBL is not, while also having to keep paying to have access to Netflix, Hulu, etc. (Things you've already payed for). Wouldn't want a 720 either.

Also hope Microsoft doesn't focus on Kinect TOO much this time. : /

Enemy4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

- They will focus on Kinect crap. "Better with Kinect" has become their thing now. If they stop, how will Kinect sell?

- Most of their 1st party studios are developing Kinect titles. They're small teams, 343i and Turn 10 excluded. Chances of seeing a new hardcore IP are low, unless you're expecting a 3rd party timed exclusive. 343i are working on the next Halo, Turn 10 the next Forza

- Matching or surpassing the power of the PS4 is very important, agreed

- Define low. I doubt the PS4 or next Xbox will be under $450

- Expansion of Xbox Live services are a given. Xbox Live will not go free

- Playing online for free should be their main focus. PSN does it, why can't Microsoft?

- I don't think they'll block used games. If they do, they might as well throw in the towel now

You forgot two more things, though. RROD and blu-ray.

Overall, there's a lot of pressure for Microsoft here.

DigitalRaptor4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

The way i see it, Microsoft got away with charging for P2P with the original Xbox because it was seen as a worthy service because it was unmatched on consoles .. YET, it was still P2P,charging for which is insulting. And since Xbox popularly boomed this gen, people turned a blind eye to the fact that you're forced to pay for basic online connectivity.

So if consumers are smart and see Sony's approach to the 'Freemium' model, i honestly don't see Microsoft getting away with it for much longer. Facing the pretty much inevitable, Sony and MS' services will be in the same ballpark next gen, so forcing you for what is basic entry to the multiplayer sections of games you've already paid full asking price for is going to push people further away from MS, especially since Sony and their games are no longer looking to be the industry's whipping boy.

Consumer standards should've been all over MS as soon as they charged you to access FREE apps every year.

darthv724098d ago

if they have to "top" sony as much as they want to hit parity with them.

I mean last gen the 360 and ps3 were more alike than different. It seems this gen they could be even closer in terms of specs.

if that's true, there would be pretty much no difference in a game for ps4 as it would be on 720. unless of course, that game is exclusive or offers something to differentiate it from the other.

Ms will more than likely be more focused on the entertainment aspect. We all assume sony is their biggest rival when it comes to gaming but Apple seems more of a serious threat when it comes to other entertainment aspects.

So while i await some hard facts about what the nextbox can do for gaming, i am also eagerly awaiting to see how they take on Apple and the new generation of smart devices that are more prevalent in our everyday lives.

Oh and making online free....yeah that would be a good move but dont give up on the members who have been loyal for so long. they have to build more trust with content partners to deliver the goods that are WORTH paying for not just the fact that we are paying for them.

Godz Kastro4098d ago

Dude, get a $40 live card from amazon and call it a year. Seriously? .11 cents a day is that hard to come by? Make no mistake, ps owners dont have the same level of service for online games with their free svc.

Boody-Bandit4098d ago

I wish MS would make XBL free but I think most of us don't see that happening. It's just too much of a cash cow for them.

Other than that I would like to see some new IPs from MS. They came out of the gate on fire with the 360 and then dwindled into relying heavily on 4 franchise titles, multiplats and Kinect.

I guess we will have to wait until E3 to find out. This should be one hell of an E3. Sony set the bar high and you know MS doesn't want to lose their foothold in North America. Should be very interesting.

One thing is for sure, Sony has my attention. Let's see if MS can match or surpass them. Either way I'm getting both day one.

Peppino74098d ago

Regardless of what they announce... it's gonna be a tough one. Gonna be another great console war.

EVILDEAD3604098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Although, Sony didn't go for the jugular they definately made the case for the PS4. In my opinion, they unintentionally made the case that the PS3 might be a little stronger games wise than the PS4 is early on.

MS definately is in the same position it always was, they need to deliver.

- The rumor is that Sony's online structure won't be free. Regardless, MS just simply needs to keep the focusing on strengthening Live's content and capabilities, all the while selling the gamer on why Live is still where 20 million will want to game daily.

- Adding Blu-Ray is huge for MS, but if the 720 is BC compatible the system has a one-up on Sony.

- Over 20 first party devs are making next gen games for MS, not including partnerships with Crytek and Epic. So don't just worry about simpy releasing New IPs, make GREAT NEW IPS that can stand toe to toe with the big dogs. Not one new Sony new IP could touch Killzone 4. The Wii-U is in peril not because of New IPs like Zombie-U, it's because they need the first party staples that Nintendo fans love in the roster to sell systems.

- Don't listen to the haters of Kinect. Sony didn't include a camera for nothing. We just watch Sony's most creative developer demonstrate a casual MOVE game as their next project. Show off Kinect 2.0 and the Wii-U audience and the gamers who bought the original Kinect will still be onboard. Especially if those big Kinect games like the K. Sports and DCs are backwards compatible.

- Launch a seperate show like Sony did, much closer or prior to E3 and announce the sysyem and gain 2 extra hours of coverage for the new sysyem as Sony wisely did.

At the end of the day, even with the great position the current gen Xbox has put MS in, they need to double down and even work harder this coming gen because Sony is going all in.

Evil

zeal0us4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

What they should do as far Xbox live silver and gold goes.

XBLS should include
-free online gaming or have a buy once play online forever option, if they really want $$$ that bad).
-Free browers,twitter,facebook and etc with ads(not the kind that interrupts you)
-If I got account with any video service like Netflix, Hulu or etc I can just use that account to login and watch without the need XBLG.

XBLG still $60 but it will get
-free online video service(Hulu,Netflix, Crackle or etc) no account needed. Meaning you could acess these service without the actual need of an account.
-Discount on DLC and other products
-Early Access to demos, dlc and etc
-No ads with services like Facebook,twitter and etc

negative4098d ago

Cheap bastard. You get what you pay for!

gaffyh4098d ago

@Logic - Why? MS has millions of subscribers that are willing to pay for online play, and it will not get rid of it until it is substantially losing to Sony.

@DaThreats -

1. No chance, will definitely be mentioned.

2. Gears possibly, and they will most likely have new IP.

3. Won't match it. It will be weaker according to the rumored specs, which it turns out were almost exact for PS4. So expect the same for 720. I can only think that MS might increase RAM more from 8GB.

4. Very likely.

5. Will be the same as 360, with a few more partners on board. This stuff might possibly be free rather than part of XBLG.

6. Not going to happen.

7. This rumor seems very dodgy. If it was true, MS is probably doing a U-Turn right now.

Gildarts4098d ago

Microsoft has at least 10 new projects In development according to wiki. They will have no shortage of new ip's.

343 Industries – Halo series
Connected Experiences – Untitled Project – Design Large scale multiplayer title and help other first party studios
Good Science Studio – Kinect Adventures, Kinect Fun Labs
Kids and Lifestyle Entertainment – Untitled Project
Microsoft Studios – Los Angeles – Untitled Project
Microsoft Studios – Mobile Gaming – ilomilo
Microsoft Studios – Redmond Publishing – Overseeing and co-developing multiple projects in conjunction with third party development studios
Platform Next Studios – Untitled Project
Playful Learning – Untitled Project
Skybox Sports – Untitled Project
Turn 10 Studios – Forza Motorsport series
Twisted Pixel Games – The Gunstringer, LocoCycle
Xbox Live Productions – South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!, South Park: Tenorman's Revenge, Avatar Kinect

Europe
Lionhead Studios – Fable series, Black & White series; Unannounced MMO-like New IP
Lift London – Multiple Cloud Based gaming projects
Rare Ltd. – Banjo-Kazooie series, Viva Piñata, Perfect Dark series, Kinect Sports series
Soho Productions – Kinect Sesame Street TV
Press Play – Untitled Project[24]

Canada
BigPark – Joy Ride series, Kinect Sports: Season Two
Black Tusk Studios – Untitled Project
Microsoft Studios Victoria – Untitled Project

blackbeld4098d ago

Yep,

Making Live for free and a lot of AAA exclusive games.

And please not again Gears, Halo and Forza but new IP's we need.

MikeMyers4098d ago

The first comment brought some good points. With that said Microsoft can still top the PS4 no matter how many doubters disagree. I personally don't think they will but I'm not ruling it out.

AngelicIceDiamond4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

MS can afford to give MP away for free come next gen. Sony will have paid subscriptions but will keep the core of the system free which includes free MP as well as other features.

The new social features look crazy on PS4. And I'm sure next gen Xbox Live will be insane as well, but I believe MP won't be in the "gold" package come next gen no way.

MS has caught a glimpse of what PS4 will be able to do. Something like MP now is nothing, feesable and basic feature that everyone wants out of the box and I'm sure MS now knows this now.

Halo, Forza Fable (Kinect) released last year I also read somewhere Fable will make 2014 debut. GOW releases soon. So, what does that leave MS when it comes to hardcore games?

Lets see... Black Tusks New AAA "next big thing" Ip.Alan Wake 2, Ryse, PGR, Ruffians new Ip, Killer Instinct, Rares new project, plus 2 or however many more possible Ip's.

Whats also interesting is The lead designer of Ruffian games says he has 4 unannounced Ips? "Including a “third person action title” and a “multiplayer game” with mentions of CryEngine 3.

If not those then what? MS always releases AAA games even if they are Halo and Gears they always deliver something for the hardcore gamers.

TheGamerDood4098d ago

"Match power or higher of PS4"

"Free online"

"Used games, always on"

lol I'm sorry but that's just not going to happen.

WeAreLegion4098d ago

Actually, the current Lionhead did not make Black & White 1/2, The Movies, or Fable. The talent at Lionhead that made THOSE games left to form Media Molecule.

They were the guys who showed us 3D modelling in real-time last night without the need for actual clay. Remember? Then, they created a story with motion and facial expression. Innovation incarnate.

Bobby Kotex4098d ago

The only reason Microsoft is charging is because they can. I seriously doubt they will make it free. And guess what? Tons of people will pay for it.

Eyeco4098d ago

Are Ton's of people really gonna be ok paying for something that the competiton (PS4/SB) offers for free that's just as good if not better ?

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ziggurcat4098d ago

"2. Give exclusives besides Halo, Forza, Gears of War, and Fable."

fixed.

blackstrr4114098d ago

Sony demoed killzone and infamous. No new ip. What's wrong with u people. If xbox demo halo and gears people willstart saying same ol same ol. Don't get me wrong. I loved the conference. I'm buying the next ps def but u people shud be honest for once

Dante1124098d ago

@ blackstrr

That's funny. I thought Deep down, Drive Club, Knack, The Witness and an untitled MM were new ips? And I'm sure we'll see more new ips come E3 as well.

Enemy4098d ago

@ blackstrr411: You just got owned pretty honestly, actually.

capnjoe2174098d ago

@blackstrr411 So did you sleep through presentations for Knack, Drive Club, probable timed exclusives like The Witness, Deep Down? Granted we're not sure of the ultimate future of exclusivity regarding these titles but you can't act like there wasn't anything new.

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3-4-54098d ago

I'll pass on Alan wake and Fable..Halo looks like it has nothing on Destiny either, but Forza is always welcome.

Kinect 2.0 should be an after thought

$ 400-450 ( People pay that for phones and tablets, they will pay it for a next gen system )

Games Games Games......but mostly new IP's.

Sony introduced a decent amount of new games and Microsoft needs the same. But stuff we haven't seen yet.

Dilldo_4098d ago

2. Give exclusives besides Halo, Forza, Alan Wake, and Fable.

LOLWUT did Sony announce any new IP's besides that weird platforming game?
Why does Microsoft need to do that?

Rainstorm814098d ago

Sony flooded this gen with new IPs, why wouldn't they do the same next gen?

They have 4 new exclusive iPs releasing on the PS3 this year Alone, and PS4 launches this year...

zebramocha4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

@dill yeah,the mm game, witness and not counting the new ip coming out on the ps3,rain,puppeteer,tlou,beyond two souls and the racing game by evolution.

Chaostar4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Deep down, Drive Club, Knack, The Witness and an untitled MM game; that's 5 new IPs before E3. I would like MS to at least match that.

T24098d ago

Becuz Sony will still be announcing at E3 which leave ms two conferences behind unless they make up ground

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Captain Qwark 94098d ago

1. agreed, no kinect crap

2. show those titles but also add in a true banjo sequel, killer instinct, conker, lost Odyssey, etc actually do something with the great ips you never gave a chance too. then toss in a few new ones

3. beat it, whoever goes first gets a pass in my book. if your second to reveal then you should have to beat the competition

4. 350-500 is a sweet spot depending upon whats offered. different sku's with multiple size hdds and finishes is fine but DO NOT go the route of not including an hdd in every console. that was retarded

5. not even sure what you mean by that so ill skip it

6. would be nice but not needed. thats a solid stream of revenue which can be used to continuously update and monitor the service. im good with it but it needs to offer more value similar to playstation plus. i tolerate it now because im invested in the xbox. once the new gen starts that wont be the case and ill need more to justify it

7. huuuuuuuuugely agree

***8. backwards compatibility would be an excellent feature and give you something over ps

***9. may need to reinvent the controller completely. perhaps even using something like the wii remote in addition to a built in kinect to allow users traditional play mixed with motions and voice. the tablet/touchscreen is cool but its now being used by both wii u and ps4 so the need something different, much different

Megaton4098d ago

Yep. It'll take all 7 of those things. Hell, I have Alan Wake and Fable on my PC. They need to really dig deep with new core IPs.

Blackdeath_6634098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

good list but unfortunately all the reports and rumours are leading to the exact opposite of those points. kinect 2.0 is supposedly shipping with every xbox which indicates a focus on kinect and the always online/always connected to kinect are very worrying indeed. i find it really hard to see microsoft moving away from that after putting so much emphasis on the kinect. also paying just to be able to play online and paying to use features that i already pay for like paying for the ability to use netflix is an absolute no no for me.
always online, always connected to kinect, and paying for xboxlive are features that completely eradicate any possibility of buying an xbox from my mind. and even if those feature don't exist they then have to convince me that they have a stronger exclusives library and that they have a stronger console both of which are unlikely. after getting a pc it looks like i'm going ps4

Jockamo4098d ago

kinect was essentially a prototype released to market. if they can fix all the problems w/ the tech and have software that utilizes it well, then i think it would be a welcomed addition to the next generation.

i know it's a lofty idea, but occulus rift integration at launch would be killer

firelogic4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Good luck with matching or surpassing hw. so far the rumours have been spot-on which means the next xbox will be running a lower grade cpu, lower grade gpu, and 4GB of ddr3 ram.

They're going to need to focus on other features, which is going to be a tough battle because Sony hit it out of the park with Gaikai.

And if by some idiotic reason, the always online drm is true, MS might as well just not release the next console.

And enough with your wishful thinking. Xbox Live is not going to be free. MS makes a ridiculous amount of profit off of it.

otherZinc4098d ago

1.Kinect is better than Move and waaaaaay more successful!

2.SONY announced Killzone & Infamous...not a money maker like Halo...

3.SONY wont be free either...

Karpetburnz4098d ago

If Sony does charge a fee to go online with the PS4, then we will truely "get what we pay for".

Just_The_Truth4098d ago

1. Kinect is not better than move. There hasn't been one game that's worked really well and made people go WOW this amazing. On the other hand games like KZ3, infamous 2, sly cooper collection etc. are fully workable with move. I don't care about motion controls but buttons beat none.

2. That just your opinion. I doubt you've even played KZ or any other big playstation games. Plus how many games did the Xbox announce yesterday....it's funny because they have 4 main games Halo, Gears, forza, and fable. Bungle left halo. Cliff left epic. Forza's not at bad racing game but nothing compared to GT and fable...enough said.

3. Sony will be free with an optional premium service.

Eyeco4098d ago

If Sony does charge for the online it will most likely be for the streaming/broadcasting/cloud features and that will probably come with PS+, I'm sure the core online gameplay will be free

joab7774098d ago

It wont be free and neither will the ps4. But sony was smart integrating psplus because gamers wont mind parting with money, even if its mandatory, if they know they will be getting alot in return.

I love both sony and microsoft for different reasons. I love the overall xbox experience and i used to love it for its games but sony has a chokehold on that right now. I understand that microsoft is using its xbox division to keep its chokehold on the OS. They know that momentum is shifting towards mobile and living room experience so they created an OS with win 8 to move in that direction. They want to be the pc in your living room.

This is the MOST IMPORTANT thing from last night. The destiny reveal. In the past, microsoft had timed exclusivity with activision and others because it benefited them. Xbox was king console. Did activision pick sony as the better console last night? If companies begin throwing their hats in with it will hurt alot because microsoft has used this in the past couple yrs to ride out this gen. This could be a disturbing trend.

On the flipside, the cable thing may not be so bad. What if microsoft sold their next xbox for $99 or $199 with subscription fee. It works for phones and could get the 720 in everyones household very early on. xbox 360 was known as the affordable console last gen (which is debatable once u pay for everything) but if tbey could do it again, it could be life or death.

theDECAY4098d ago

Most people have enough of those subscription based platforms already. I don't see many casuals trading those for what they believe to be a video game console.

Animal Mutha 764098d ago

@ DaThreats

Agree with most of that but I dont think you will get a free online as MS have proved that millions will pay for it = steady revenue stream.

I would love to be able to install my 360 copy of BF3 and then play it at a much higher render resolution and 60fps.

ALLWRONG4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

When it comes to Live there is nothing wrong with paying for superior quality. Think T-Bone steak vs Hamburger. As for exclusives MS didn't too bad this gen considering they have more than Sony.

saint_seya4097d ago

Your name describes your comment ;)

kenshiro1004097d ago

Wikipedia isn't a reliable source so...yeah.

user39158004098d ago

Nope, online will be there and we will get charged. MS wants to win sonys conferenced? Really? I consider their reveal awfull, the worst in history, reveal without the actual console lol,,, Only good thing was third party games, same old horrible remote.

Sony had good spec the 8 core and 8gb ddr5 was awesome, but let us down with what we wanted to see the actual console, without it its not a reveal jeez.

If ms wants to win, then just show the console ugly or not its a reveal lol...

Its going to be hard for ms to catch up to those specs, sony was indeed impresive. We might not see another console for another 8 to 10 years, it might be the last console we ever see. 8GB of ram its enough but ddr5 its an overkill, thats about 16 gb ddr3. Sony has a beast on their hand for sure on par to high end pc. MS wont hold back and I believe their offering will be better, but the power of PS4 its insane.

Make MS better?
1) BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE and use game a most
2) 2 models for online, gold free able to play, share, download. 2nd model 50 dollars with skype, multiple downloads/programing/video sharing/multiple tv play from same console.
3}First party games, give us moreeeeeeeeeee
4} Illumiroom
5}MMOS
6} BLU RAY and great spec for hardware
7} more apps and entertainment
8} console sharing with ms products, optional keyboard wireless solution for windows 8 on 720.
9} let us get achievements on same console with multiple players.

I only see the wiiu been hurt and third party leaving the console in droves, well its already happening.

Karpetburnz4098d ago

Showing the console itself isnt as important as showing what it offers, and I assume Sony want to wait until E3 to show the actual hardware.

Diddnt you see the new controller? It has many changes and new features. It's handles are longer and bulkier to fit the hands better, The analog sticks are now concave and the triggers are now convex. IMO they nailed the controller.

JimmyDanger4097d ago

9} let us get achievements on same console with multiple players.

It's been able to do that since day one.

asmith23064098d ago

1. Not gonna happen

2. Maybe but their internal studios aren't up to much and after seeing the PS4 I don't know what 3rd party would support them exclusively.

3. I would be shocked if it does. It will come close but alot of RAM will be dedicated to OS and apps, and possibly Kinect.

4. More likely to be lower than the PS4s price point anyway.

5. Lol, it probably will be!

6. Not gonna happen, the amount of cash they get off Live isn't worth dropping it unless it is a complete overhaul of Live and what it offers. PS+ got in their first in terms of the best online subscription offering in my opinion.

7. We shall see.

The thing about the Xbox is that we haven't heard ANYTHING exciting about it in a long, long time. No leaks, speculation, nothing. It's not a good sign in my opinion.

kingmushroom4098d ago

Kill that huge Power Brick, Get Fuken Bluray .

Urusernamesucks4098d ago

If you combine all that+ advertising+ casual audiance

they should make even more money than they ever did with XboxLive Gold Charging.

why the fuck not Microsoft?

omi25p4098d ago

I want Alan Wake.

There has been 1 game an a mini spin off. Its not like God of War, Halo, Killzone, Gears and Uncharted where they have been milked.

DFresh4097d ago

Reality:
1.) Kinect 2.0 is rumored in development for Xbox 720.

2.) That's still a mystery.

3.) I don't think it'll be that much more powerful. After all M$ are a software company not a hardware company.

4.) I think it'll be in the same price range of PS4. $400-$500 (Price Range.)

5.) All platforms are going in this direction whether we like it or not.

6.) I wish. >.<

7.) None of the platform holders are stupid enough to actually go through with it.

morkendo234097d ago

"HOW MICROSOFT CAN TOP THE PLAYSTATION CONFERENCE"

bring more than just A' game

DarthJay4097d ago

You mean like how Sony showed off another Killzone, another Infamous and another racing game? Come on now...

DigitalSmoke4097d ago

So basically copy Playstation, nice one.

StraightPath4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

wait cant someone just say give exclusives besides killzone or infamous...works the same way.

Microsoft has been severly lacking in the exclusives departments. I hope they not only bring new IPs but also the usual handful of exclusives they have. They also need to atleast match the powerful specs of the PS4 or even top it. Did anyone see the outstanding graphics of Killzone Shadowfall damn....

Even though some games were multiplatform in the show such as Watchdogs and Destiny but having Bungie in a Sony show was a big slap to Microsoft. Also having all these amazing multiplaforms demoed in Sonys show such as Watchdogs.

Microsoft Ideal show to beat Sony

Halo 5
Next Gen Gears Of War
Alan Wake 2
Forza 5
Forza Horizon 2
Rare IPs finally taken seriously ( Banjo Kazooie , Conker , Perfect Dark )
Kameo 2
Project Gotham 5
Crackdown 3
Fable

is some of the exclusives they can bring to the table. As for multiplatforms games they should steal

Hideo Kojima to show MGS Ground Zeroes / Phantom Pain in MS Sony ( he came before on MS shows and sony hosted with bungie so this would hurt sony kojima unvieling next gen msg on ms show..)

Square Enix to announce FF game in MS Sony
Bethesda announce their next gen Fall Out or Elders Scroll
Bioware show Mass Effect 4
Activision show next gen Call of Duty
Rockstar makes appearance in Ms show

hardware wise they either need to match PS4 or beat it along with all its amazing features such as recording gameplay and spectating along with their own innovations how they will improve their service and xbox live and hopefully its free this time and follow what Sony is doing a seperate paid service PSN plus but online gaming free.

kenshiro1004097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Agreed.

And for the people who keep saying Sony showed off sequels...honestly did you see the new IPS they demonstrated as well?

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THC CELL4098d ago

Give everyone a free Xbox to win on day of announcement always seem to work

kingmushroom4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

bring in acrobats. Announce 5 Halo games charge more for XLIVE

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Soldierone4098d ago

They don't need to make Live entirely free, but they are better off following Sony's PS Plus route. Make gaming online free, maybe put "restrictions" on it to an extent, but offer a premium service that you pay for. However unless subscriptions are slipping, why bother?

If they focus on Kinect, a lot of gamers will be mad.

BanBrother4098d ago

Soldier, you are absolutely right. A lot of people I know are fed up with Xbox, so MS are going to have to do a great big deal to bring some people in. Kinect is basically making every X-box owner mad. I'm glad a have multiple consoles, as Xbox fans are getting a raw deal.

TBH, I am very sick of them. They need to look at what Sony is doing, and follow suit. It's adapt or die at this point, and I only pray that gamers will no support them IF Kinect is the only thing they showcase at their reveal. Nothing to do with being a fanboy, just being smart. Support those who support you.

Crystallis4098d ago

@Soldierone. I agree, but MS wont do that. They already make money off of xbx live. MS basically shot themselves in the foot and this will be their downfall. A friend of mine is already fed up with the way MS handles their online subscription and decided not to support them with their next console releases. Why you ask, because he comes to my house and plays all those games for free online on my ps3.

fsfsxii4097d ago

Wait, isn't XBL is better than PSN???
Why would they do the same as PSN??

mochachino4098d ago

Free online MP option and equal or greater power or I'm waiting for it to drop to $200 in 4 years

3-4-54098d ago

Then you will be waiting and missing out on 4 years worth of games....Your posting on a gaming website so I doubt you would be waiting. nice try.

fsfsxii4097d ago

4 years of Halo-gears and more kinect title, yay, so much to miss...

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic188121h ago(Edited 21h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus2311h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos1h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331h ago

i think you are really missing the point

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SonyStyled17h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies5h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

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jwillj2k421h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot19h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

Jon6158639m ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

RNTody20h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead9h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage3h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast19h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn197919h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel10h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn197917m ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage3h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead2d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 20h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie1d 11h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 2h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin1d 7h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 2h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow12h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 2h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow12h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX1d 23h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney7h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno1d 22h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 20h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 20h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii1d 7h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d 6h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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