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Microsoft: “Everybody Knows” PS3 “Isn’t as Good of an Entertainment Console” as Xbox 360

Right before Sony had to eat humble pie when the PS3′s launch cost them billions and market dominance, they were criticized for being arrogant and cocky. Now they’re seen as a much more likeable and respectable company that doesn’t tell people to get another job.

Clearly not having learned anything from Sony’s past, Microsoft is now playing the villain.

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Dylila4519d ago

it isnt as good because its better

Enemy4519d ago

Microsoft has no games left, no blu-ray, inferior Netflix, and a subscription-based service. Sony is opposite to each of those things.

PS3 isn't as good, no...it's better.

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patterson4519d ago

Ah this just sounds like Microsoft playing the FOX News game of declaring something as true without backing it up with facts.

morganfell4519d ago

I would like to see the face of Yusuf Mehdi when he realizes that as he was talking nonsense all of the lifeboats left.

007Bond4519d ago

Yea it's better at being horrible! JK although PS exclusives are mostly overrated and most do not look interesting at all as well as xbox's

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rainslacker4519d ago

I hope when MS announces their new platform, Sony just wishes them luck, like they did with the Wii U. It's so much classier.

Darth Stewie4519d ago

No its because the PS3 is the better gaming console.

nosferatuzodd4519d ago

Microsoft is always like that,they never take their lumps like a gentleman.

Instead they bash and sabotage just like how they made that scroogle add when Google is kicking their cheep windows phone ass, or when apple came out with the iPhone.

They find all kind of horrible crap to say about how bad iPhone was, then they copied the siri app lol i hate that company no offense to Xbox owners, the 360 isn't a bad system its just Microsoft i cant stand there greedy snobby cunt.

blackbeld4519d ago

I think Microsoft is loosing they're grip of reality. They loosing battle on every front from phones to operating systems. Except for office 2010 great software btw.

In other words Microsoft is run by teenagers with bold heads.

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zeee4519d ago

I think they are right. As entertainment console, 360 has the edge but when it comes to GAMING console, you know, the reason I bought both 360 and PS3, I find Playstation 3 much... MUCH better.

mayberry4519d ago

Sony doesnt showcase the PS3's superior sound output either, imho. True digital optic 7.1 surround sound only on the PS3.

pixelsword4519d ago

The Myans predicted the end of the world December 26, 2012 but with calendar adjustments it's actually February 20, 2013; and they were talking about the end of a certain type fanboy's world.

Let the apoc4ypse begin.

RumbleFish4519d ago

The Mayans didn't see anything coming. Not even the spanish!

EVILDEAD3604519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

Heres my honest opinion as someone who loves both my Xbox 360 and my PS3 for entertainment.

Forget the PR stuff as both of em are taking shots at each other.

If you are strictly talking physical entertaimnent SONY wins handsdown for the Blu-ray. Plus I've always been a huge fan of the music player. Throw a CD in and nobody is touching that Earth Screen saver.

If you are talking in the digital space then MS wins handsdown. The content on Live is like 3 times as much. Especially if you are a fan over music, when Xbox music, Last FM, and I heart radio are all great. But when it comes to sheer entertainment apps..My god. It's not even a contest.

Overall, it's all in what you like.

I love the internet now through smart glass, Youtube, The news stations, HBO GO, Gamespot and IGN TV, NBA through Live.

I love the NFL Pass, the 3D movie selection, the alternate way to view my Netflix menu, and I honestly used to be obsessed with the PSN Store.

At the end of the day, it honestly depends on what your system of preference is. If your on Xbox Live every day you tend to grab more content from there and vice versa for the PS3.

But, I'd say if you didn't pay for alot of Blu-Ray movies then MS has a point.

But, I couldn't live without either one.

Next gen will be interesting though.

Evil

TheBeastX4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

the Ps3 doesn't have any shooters that have such lighting and animations like halo4, or even as remotely as top selling, and that's a fact! NOTHING!

and the last of us and two souls are coming in way too late, and they look dated anyways. by the time these games come out preorders for new hardware will made, and then they will both be conflicting with their sales.

and for the record the 360 had a way better launch than the vita!!

Moentjers4519d ago

I just want a new GAME console. I have a computer/iPad/even a stereo for radio to have my entertainment. On a GAME console I want to play games. So MS Just call it XMediaBox and STFU.

MaxXAttaxX4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

It streams Netflix in 1080p. It outputs sound in 7.1 optical and HDMI. It plays Blu-ray movies.
But Sony doesn't constantly tout that. They seem to focus more on gaming overall, whereas Microsoft is really heavy on the "entertainment" part. I think they're using the Xbox to infiltrate different markets with minimal focus on gaming.

GribbleGrunger4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

Wow, look at all those disagrees. This is really hurting the 360 fanboys in ways I have never seen before. Why? It's just another console.

MysticStrummer4519d ago

I'll be forwarding this story to all my gaming friends who bought 360s, then got rid of them in favor of PS3s. Apparently they aren't included in "everybody".

lol @ all the above disagrees from the 360 fans. Your cover is blown, and I never again want to read any of you claiming that N4G is dominated by PS3 fans. Too funny.

MS really does look desperate with that quote, no matter who in the company said it.

Good times.

Ares84HU4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

People say that n4g is full of Sony fanboys. Look at this shit. This article is a joke. How is the 360 better? When it comes down to which system is better you have to look at the exclusives because that is the only thing that makes the difference. The exclusives on PS3 are far better and there are far more than on the 360. Yet when people point this fact out they get more disagrees than agrees. How many AAA exclusives will the 360 have this year?? I haven't heard of a single one. It's all about kinect and casual play on the 360 for the past two years.

N4G is full of Sony Fanboys???? Look at all the disagrees from 360 fanboys! Far more 360 fans on this site. I don't want Anyone claim that this site is full of sony fanboys after this.

TheRealSpy4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

This is a troll article and the person that chose to make this the headline is a completely POS. Don't you idiots get tired of voicing the same tired opinions about your favorite console? NOBODY cares what you think about 360 or ps3. You can sit there and say "but but psn is free and blah blah."

yeah? good for you. I'm still going to play and enjoy my xbox AND my ps3. GROW UP!

insomnium24518d ago

Like gribble, mystic and ares said this news really proves how much of a PS3 fanboy driven site this is.

Even perfectly sane and truthfull comments get almost 50/50 ratio for agrees.

Look at patterson's and blitz's comment's disagrees. Am I seeing things or did they actually get way more disagrees?

also @ evil

"Forget the PR stuff as both of em are taking shots at each other"

So here we are once again trying hard to make all companies look the same. If Sony lies 2 times and MS lies 10 times then MS is 5 times bigger idiot. You simply cannot run with this "oh they both do it" attitude and expect it to stick. That's BS and you do it ONLY because MS is the one with the most cheap shots. We would never hear the end of it if it was Sony doing it.

JamieL4518d ago (Edited 4518d ago )

@ all the PS3 trolls above, saying "I don't want to hear this is a PS3 fanboy and PS3 ego-petting haven", Yes it is. Did you ever for one second think that these disagrees could have come from anyone who thinks trolls are a joke. Any comment with that number of disagrees is just plain fanboy propaganda, or someone spouting slogans. Every comment that happen to was fanboy garbage plain and simple. This does not "PROVE" anything like what you're claiming, it just proves not everyone wants to hear that trash. The fact they had as many agree's is much more telling.

Elit3Nick4518d ago

@Ares84HU Seriously are you even looking at the other comments? There are a staggering number of sony fanboys who misinterpret Microsoft's statement as "xbox is better than ps3".

1nsaint4518d ago (Edited 4518d ago )

Lol almost everyone that posted here should be voted down for being immature.
Really guys.. You are defending your console like you're getting paid for it.
Both consoles have their flaws but you guys are even disagreeing with cold hard facts just to defend your console.

Just calm ur tits, they're insulting your console, not your mom

Also, for all you saying: just wait untill the 20th
We don't really know what Sony is announcing on the 20 February, but it seems highly likely that it'll announcement its next-gen PS3 successor, presumed to be called the PS4

Nothing is sure yet though.

Gamer19824518d ago

No sony isnt as good as an entertainment console its a better GAMES console though. Sont doesnt care about Hulu and Netflix, it give consumers that as they want them but it gives gamers games first and foremost. The fact MS said this just shows they are completely out of touch with gamers. Even 360 owners cannot deny this. We buy consoles for games first and foremost and if you dont then your just silly as theres a lot cheaper ways to get the same content your 360 offers you and no live needed to use it!

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Sharingan_no_Kakashi4519d ago

And here comes the pr bullcrap. It took 4 years for them to stop bashing each other this gen. Now they're back at it. Obviously, MS is feeling threatened by all the buzz that Sony has been getting involving their feb 20th conference.

aceitman4519d ago

the bluray player alone makes it better, and u not having to pay to use the same features the 360 has makes it better.the 360 is good but he ps3 is just better. I have them both its my opinion.u can see it in my profile pick.

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CryofSilence4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

@007Bond

The majority of games today (moins PC) are peer-to-peer rather than dedicated servers; therefore, your point is invalid.

Eldyraen4519d ago

@CryofSilence: PSN servers do suck when it comes to download speeds for many people. I have a 30+ download speed and its practically a snail's pace for me no matter if I only have the PS hooked up to my cable modem. Not sure if it has to do with launch PS3 (a friend had similar problems with his), some hardware issue, or simply PSN itself.

My PC can download infinitely faster, my 360 the same, and even my cell phone on wifi can download faster than PS3 hooked up to the modem. It doesn't matter what PSN settings are, its just pathetically bad for me. Granted I download most things over night on it fine but when I bought DC Universe to play with console friends... omg that sucked.

If for some reason download speeds weren't so bad for me I probably wouldn't think so poorly about PSN though as I do like it being free, PS+, and the overall feel of the store. The new look though blows the old out of the water however download speeds are still terrible for me. I just hope when I get a PS4 it was a hardware problem.

RumbleFish4519d ago

I don't think that his point is invalid. Many games I played had match making issues on PS3. That's not peer to peer, that are server issues.

CryofSilence4519d ago

@Eldyraen

Yes, their download servers are pretty slow, but I said games and the act of gaming, not downloading.

THC CELL4519d ago

Ps 3 has crap servers bwhahha. Mag played better than most games on Xbox, Xbox would cripple if u put 128 people in one area and dropped a air strike on them. And why is dust514 a exclusive and the only games that are inferior are the games that bum Xbox call of duty then again I hardly note on my console but its the game most people bitch about been laggy.. Ive had some great times on Xbox live but to say this is too much of a laugh, bwhahha, developers make.a server not Sony unless it's a exclusive.

kenshiro1004519d ago

Crap servers? Right...

And I suppose the ones you pay for on the 360 are any better?

TheRealSpy4519d ago

1) PSN doesn't have the same features.

2) You don't have to tell us that your opinion is your opinion.

@Kratos_Kills: You mean like when FF13 was announced as a multiplat so you all went nuts when FF13 VS was announced as an exclusive? Or do you mean like when PSN went down for a month and as compensation for not encrypting our credit card information we got a couple cheapo games? Or do you mean like when Bioshock finally came to ps3 a year later? and on and on and on...

don't be so immature man. who cares how people react to news? i can't think of anything less interesting. plus, it makes you sound like a hypocrite.

Eldyraen4518d ago

@CryofSilence. The only reason I mentioned psn servers dl speeds was you were you responding to a more general (trollish) comment about servers in general. That and the flamebait article was actually about multimedia and not gaming side of consoles so dl speeds are more important as it does make a differencs in which is "best" for some people (for multimedia purposes). Again its all dependant on connection and whatever is causing all the bottlenecks with Sony's servers for those of us that experience the problem.

I havent had many problems while gaming though (depending on the game which usually gets patched at some point anyways). Its just as you said most games use peed to peer so that isnt a PSN issue anyways. If they fixed download speeds though psn would be much better all around for everyone. Streaming is fine too though which is why I just wish I knew what the issue was as psn really is great otherwise.

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Root4519d ago

This is hilarious

Sony marketed the PS3 when it came out as an entertainment system. I mean thats why blu ray was such a big thing for them at the time

Now that MS is trying to catch up they are saying they are better....come on MS you guys are becoming a tad jealous don't you think

Seriously Microsofts arrogance is going to hurt them next gen, it hurt Sony....least they learnt from their mistakes

dubt724519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

It's hilarious how sonyboys talk about how arrogant MS is when they were the ones defending sony's arrogance before the PS3 came out. Remember Kutaragi? Y'all were suckling at the sony teat! 599 US Dollars!!! Unbelievable...
@root, not so much your comment as the ones earlier in the post. I was just too lazy to scroll all the way back up, lol.

steven83r4519d ago

Ummm ya PS3 was 599 and you got your moneys worth. Bluray was expensive back then. Also 360 was 399. Then 150 for HD Dvd, oh you want Wifi too well that is going to cost you another 50, Memory card readers..dont think so, play files offline off a USB not happening, bluetooth nope! wireless controllers..Nope. Tell me again how PS3 wasn't worth the extra 200.

nirwanda4519d ago

@dubt72 and if it launched on the same day as the 360 it wouldn't have had bluray either at the end of the day if you look how fast gpu tech moves it should have battered the 360 but instead they had to work around it with the cell.

TheRealSpy4519d ago

@steven:
"Tell me again how PS3 wasn't worth the extra 200."

Cuz it didn't have any good games. I waited a year, paid much less, and by then there were some good games for it.

BlackTar1874518d ago

The question is what were the good games 360 had at launch?

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Persistantthug4519d ago

I'd be interested in seeing it for myself.

Muffins12234519d ago

This article title is full of bullshit.." "isn't as good of an entertainment console " as xbox360 " Notice how they dont quote the last part because they did not say that..

Thatguy-3104519d ago

It fills in the gap for the entertainment I need which basically are hulu+ and Netflix. It thrives as a gaming console which is basically the reason I bought it in the first place. Don't want all that extra apps that I won't be using what so ever.

MGS_fanatico_4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

Oh, Mehdi... What have you done!?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/...

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

yes it is kaz as superman. Starts of behind and with and iron fist still ends up in front!! Just like ps3!

Know I really believe the ex exec who said they only want to stop sony.

"PS3 now the top device for Netflix streaming to a TV
Even outstrips PC viewing at times "
http://www.techradar.com/us...

MS so mad and scared.. They thought sony was gonna wait for e3.

This is awsome why? It's like to e3s!! PS4 now and ps4 later nice.

It will be a big show. They just booked a ballroom that holds 2,800 people.
http://www.psxextreme.com/p...

And now sony has the new marketing team who are ex google chrome marketing team headed by creator of Halo 3 Believe + Gears 2 Rendezvous campaign.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

They are good.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

showtimefolks4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

oh yeh its starting and we are months away from launch or even E3

its gonna be a fun ride

Offtopic:

VTW the advertisement firm sony just hired did a lot of work for MS and did the campaign for Halo 3 lol

this is gonna be a fun time to just sit back and watch the PR war. I like how sony's side is fighting back lol

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

remember this lol

you are hurting my elbow he says in the end lol.

i want to see more advertisement like that, imagine kratos standing outside MS offices and calling out master chief lol

sorry about all the LOL's, i am actually laughing since watching the crash commercial

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Chris5584519d ago

I guess microsoft's jimmys are rustled

kenshiro1004519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

I love the silly PR talks. Microsoft is running around like a chicken with its head cut off.

IAmLee4518d ago

Does this really matter?
People can slag off each console, but in the end it all comes down to personal preference. I prefer the ps3, due to its exclusive, where as others prefer xbox for halo and shit.
Don't see much point in sparking a riot over something as pointless as this..

Tonester9254518d ago

I remember when the PS3 was released and Microsoft was criticizing the PS3 on how it was just for entertainment and not for gaming. I'm sure they're biting their tongue off lol

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Foolsjoker4519d ago

Yeah, because I love watching Blurays on my 360...

PeZuS4519d ago

So...PS3 has more Netflix use, Blu-Ray, 7.1 DTS Master-Audio support and it goes on. Meanwhile, you have to pay a yearly price just to unlock most of the entertainment features on 360.

RuleofOne343 4519d ago

Does it bother you that people prefer to pay for something than be a welfare recipient or expect things for free or given away.

poopsack4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

So every PS3 and PC user is a welfare recipient, because thats what getting access to the internet you already paid for is, receiving welfare.

one2thr4519d ago

Better yet, to support the only gaming platform that has its customers/gamers pay to use their very OWN bandwidth... Yet thats right Witwicky your paying to use YOUR OWN BANDWIDTH to use/access Xbox Live... Sad reality, yes?

PeZuS4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

@wit: Some great "wit" you've got there. So because we don't have to pay we are "welfare recipients". Amazing analogy, almost this-will-go-down-in-history-b ooks amazing

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poopsack4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

Sillyyyyy.

MasterCornholio4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

Correction

"Yeah, because I love watching HD-DVDs on my 360..."

LOL remember what happened to the accessory and the format?

mr_kubrick4518d ago

Yeah watching 1080p mp4 on xbox is fun and working like a charm.
Who cares buying BluRays when u can play downloaded HD-Files on the xbox?

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Snookies124519d ago

Wow Microsoft, wow... *shakes head*

LackTrue4K4519d ago

dam....this is like the 3rd articals about MS, trolling Sony. Are they really that shallow??
is that there strategy?? just down talking Sony??
lol...

yavorsv4519d ago

M$ trolls $ony trolls Nintendo

UltraVegito4519d ago

Console warz 2 is around the corner.

Find your nearest popcorn stand now.

DonFreezer4518d ago

Wow PS3 fanboys, wow *shakes head*

Snookies124518d ago

What in the world does this have to do with PS3? I certainly didn't say anything about Sony. It's just idiotic and way too arrogant to claim something like this on Microsoft's part. A little trash talking I'm okay with between competition, but to blatantly say that EVERYONE knows they're better than competition is completely stupid and Microsoft employees should think a little more next time before saying something like that again.

Which is better solely depends on OPINION, so no, not EVERYONE knows it's better...

Chaostar4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

Sony: Your overconfidence is your weakness.

MS: Your faith in exclusives is yours.

http://i.minus.com/ipfT6X7q...

LOGICWINS4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

Either way you slice it, both the figureheads at Sony and Microsoft were jackasses at some point. Sony in 2006 and Microsoft now. Sure hope Microsoft learns to swallow that humble pie like Sony did.

Gaming_Guru4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

You do realize a company will never say their product is not as good as the competitor's. I just don't understand why people thought Sony was arrogant and now think Microsoft is, hate the game not the player.

This is why we have journalists to filter what is bullshit versus what is truth. Would you tell your potential customers to go to the competitor's while you lose money?

LOGICWINS4519d ago

"You do realize a company will never say their product is not as good as the competitor's."

Of course, but companies CAN neglect to talk about their competitor's all together if they choose too.

rainslacker4519d ago

@Gaming

true, but they don't have to outright bash them...and that goes for all sides of the fence. It's one thing to say your better, and quite another to prove it. Talk up your console, and leave the other out of it. There are enough fan boys to do the dirty work for these companies, and it's better they stay above it.

Snookies124519d ago

That link gave me a good lol. :]

Chaostar4519d ago

Thank you, I was worried that my obviously light-hearted comment was being taken too seriously when I saw the disagrees piling up.

-Mika-4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

That true. PS3 does have essentials apps like Netflix and Hulu but it also missing stuff like the HBO,Comcast and TMZ apps. MS really did turn the 360 into the ultimate entertainment console in these 7 years it been on the market. Hopefully next gen, sony isn't playing catch up and it has it own unique and innovative ideas of it own.

Omar914519d ago

lol 23 agrees for a dot. lmao thats awesome

DarkBlood4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

lol what can i say i try my best :P

NameRemoved00174519d ago

Yes but you have to pay extra $ for Hbo, Comcast and TMZ. Why watch something on your xbox that you already pay a fee for a dedicated cable box for.

Codeman4204519d ago

THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEBODY SAYS IT!!!!!

Enemy4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

The more apps, the more subscriptions. So, on top of having to pay the annual subscription fee for Xbox Live, you have to pay the additional fee for each app. At least PSN is free, and the optional PSN+ gets you free games every month.

@ below: And you're paying for Xbox Live which gets you what for free? I'll answer for you, actually; nothing at all.

ALLWRONG4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

hdshatter but you don't mind paying for those "free" games you have to pay for do you?

The mind of a PS fanboy = "ha ha you pay for Live! now excuse me while I go pay for my rental service"

Skips4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

^^^

LMAO, the free games aren't the ACTUAL service we're paying for smart one. The service is cloud saving, automatic updating while you sleep, early access to beta's, 1 hour full game time trials, discounted and FREE DLC's etc.

The free games are just bonuses. Pretty effing damn sweet bonuses if you ask me.

DigitalRaptor4519d ago (Edited 4519d ago )

ALLWRONG, are you special?

PS+ is a subscription service for access to games. "Free games" is a figure of speech, and it goes without saying that a subscription service isn't free. Yet you keep repeating "it's not free" like we don't actually know that. Highly amusing.

So, PS+ is a SINGLE barrier to entry, and will ALWAYS be optional. PS+ is also about MUCH more than "free games", but as an Xbox fanboy you might not know that.

XBL is a subscription service, but you have to pay for that subscription service to get access to services that you also pay subscriptions for: Netflix, ESPN et al. That's a DUAL(!!!) barrier of entry, which quite frankly is completely disrespectful to a consumer base and should be illegal. Do Microsoft care?? Ha! Most sane people would say that's bad enough, but Microsoft also put a barrier of entry before basic P2P online play that (if you know how that works) is another "what the hell, how can they get away with charging for that?" moment.

But Microsoft just don't care. They just want to pad out "value" to their service even to the cost of their consumers. If you can't see the difference, you might just need help.

Next generation is going to be very telling indeed, and with comments like this you can tell it's just baseless damage control against the buzz for the upcoming Sony press event that will have the Internet buzzing even more.

BlueTemplar4519d ago

@allwrong

The mind of an xbox fanboy - mocking people for paying for a service where they get games they dont already have, while happily paying to rent the multiplayer portion OF GAMES THEYVE ALREADY PAID FOR

The hypocrisy astounds me.

THEDON82z14519d ago

Right I don't own a home theatre system for nothing!!! f@@k Microsoft!!!!

rezzah4519d ago

@ALLWRONG

Your name suits you well.

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wolokowoh4519d ago

And PS3 has all the sports packages, both have Amazon instant video but PS3 had it first, and a lot of other stuff(country dependent) to counter 360. It doesn't matter. They can keep going back and forth but what matters is games and Microsoft needs to invest more in that next gen. How about a new Killer Instinct from Rare instead of generic Kinect titles. As long as Microsoft markets it, it will sell.

Heisenburger4519d ago

T.....M....Z....

S.....M....H....

omi25p4519d ago

You cant speak the truth on N4G's so dont bother.

Hicken4519d ago

So if I speak the truth and say you shouldn't have to pay a DIME to a console maker to play the online portion of your game, is that something that shouldn't be allowed here on N4G?

Should I not say Sony is showing the PS3 more support than the 360 is getting from Microsoft at this late stage of the generation?

I imagine those are truths you'd rather not know, huh?

Bladesfist4519d ago

@Hicken I don't think you understand that word. True truth has to be a fact and not change from person to person.

Pillsbury14518d ago (Edited 4518d ago )

@ bladefist TRUTH: Sony released more exclusives than Microsoft last year, FACT.

dcbronco4518d ago

Pillsbury1

Truth, non of them really sold many copies. Silent trees buddy.

And poor Hicken. Nice to see you haven't given up the fight to determine how other people spend their money.

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Goodguy011d 9h ago

Think that rumor that they'll still make a new console but at a profit at $1000 will be true though. The series consoles will remain their cheap alternative throughout next gen I would say. Keep in mind that game pass and pretty much going 3rd party is their main focus. They want to bring xbox everywhere.

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GamerRN13h ago

If they don't maintain some kind of console presence, I think they will lose gamepass subscribers and just become a 3rd party publisher who eventually sells everything off

Cacabunga12h ago

Xbox games are releasing on all platforms. Who needs this hardware? PS or PC is all you need

Flewid63810h ago

I've never owned an Xbox in my life and I have GamePass.

thorstein9h ago

The only Xbox I owned was the 360. I have gamepass for my PC.

GamerRN4h ago

Majority of Gamepass users are currently on console...

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crazyCoconuts11h ago

Even if they could get it down to $800 for a box that can run with comparable performance to a PS6 (at, say $200 cheaper) the population of people willing to buy such a thing would be so limited.
It would be the worst of both worlds.

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Futureshark22h ago

A slow, painful and public death too.

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Jingsing3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils2d ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent751d 15h ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils1d 7h ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai3d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning773d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher2d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor2d ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde2d ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z1d 23h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey861d 18h ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer6d ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30006d ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer6d ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger6d ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30006d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole6d ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto6d ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing696d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif6d ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing696d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif6d ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot6d ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast6d ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts6d ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto6d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos6d ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo6d ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner5d ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Are you and Anast the same person?

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