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Xbox Project Founder Nat Brown: Stupid Stupid Xbox

Nat Brown Write: I was a founder of the original xBox project at Microsoft and gave it its name. Almost 14 years after the painful, pointless, and idiotic internal cage-match to get it started and funded, the hard selling of a compelling and lucrative living-room product to Bill (and then Steve as he began to take over), a product that consumers would want and love and demand...

But the past 5 years, and the last year in particular, have been simply painful to watch. Coasting on past momentum. Failing to innovate and failing to capitalize on innovations like Kinect. Touting strategic and market success when you’re just experiencing your competitor’s stumbling failure (yes, Sony, Nintendo – you are, I’m afraid, stumbling failures). A complete lack of tactical versus strategic understanding of the long game of the living room. It culminated for me in recent coverage of....a new LA xBox studio to create interactive content.

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Walker4109d ago

Wow, the rage...so palpable.

Gazondaily4109d ago

Yeah but most of it is so unnecessary like the little prompts when going to the dashboard? REALLY?? I wonder how he fares when he uses a PS3.

The pointless cage match seems to be taking place in his head.

nukeitall4109d ago

@Septic:

I find myself kind of agreeing with him as the Xbox dashboard is pretty good, but only in relations to what else is out there, and not what it could have been.

MS could do a lot more to streamline and make the dashboard even more user friendly. I hope many of these things find their way onto the next generation.

MS needs this guy back! Get him now!

scofios4108d ago

Waw the founder of a big failure called XBOX1 is calling others failures

Snookies124109d ago (Edited 4109d ago )

"yes, Sony, Nintendo - you are, I'm afraid, stumbling failures".

I'm sorry, but if this dude is indeed focusing more on the past year he is SORELY mistaken with that comment.

Sony has turned things around so much these past 2-3 years. I bought a PS3 when they first launched, and even I had to admit they had basically no games and their service wasn't that great. However lately, with PS+, tons of wonderful exclusives, a re-branding and unification of its services, Sony has really done a wonderful job as opposed to when they started out this generation.

Nintendo is really picking things up as well. The Wii U launch wasn't so hot, but with titles like X, Fire Emblem/Shin Megami, Wind Waker HD, etc., it appears as though they're really starting to try appealing to hardcore fans in the near future. I may not own a Wii U, but I'm excited for those that do, and look forward to its future (which is one I'm seriously considering investing in now.)

So I'm sorry buddy, but after that comment he made, it's kind of hard to take him seriously... Obviously he isn't paying attention to what's going on lately.

yesmynameissumo4109d ago (Edited 4109d ago )

"Touting strategic and market success when you’re just experiencing your competitor’s stumbling failure (yes, Sony, Nintendo – you are, I’m afraid, stumbling failures)." He's right. Sony and Nintendo have stumbled faaaaar more than Microsoft this gen. It's had to have had an effect.

classic2004109d ago

He his basically saying, these two companies stumble and let microsoft control the industry, this wouldnt happen if they did not stumble.

Its the truth the xbox would not be sitting strongly in america right now if nintendo and sony play their cards perfectly. Sony is pushing hard now and that is great but they started off stumbling with the price point while wii was stumbling with power.

dcbronco4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

Snookies,

The slip ups Sony and Nintendo made can't be fixed this generation. The mistakes they made Sony made were the Cell and Blu-ray. The only change there has been that it is cheaper to produce those parts so the cost have fallen in line with the price of the console. But that damage is done.

For Nintendo, they went out and pulled a PS3 in reverse. A under powered system that will be obsolete by the end of the year. The only cure for that will be the a new console. The Wii U is dead on arrival. Zelda can't save it. Nintendo will make money. But they will quickly become a third wheel.

I do agree MS has made some mistakes. I don't believe they will focus on Kinect. And looking at the way content holders are hording their content and moving toward their own services, MS and everyone else need to be making their own content. That is actually forward thinking.

On the dashboard. Those things are a little less important. I don't like the wait times. But I believe those things are being addressed if the rumored specs are real. Always on, separate resources for the apps and mandatory installs make me think load times are a key they are working on.

MultiConsoleGamer4109d ago

He's so bitter.

Good luck getting another job in the industry.

cleft54109d ago

Sadly, guys like this know so much that they can get a job pretty much anywhere. Like him or hate him, he is an exceptionally knowledgeable person.

Even if he does come off like an asshole, just look at CliffyB, David Jaffe, David Cage, and Dennis Dyack to name a few. Complete assholes, but their experience and knowledge will always net them a job or a startup company.

FunAndGun4109d ago

I could be wrong but David Cage always seems pretty humble and I never really viewed him as an asshole.

didn't disagree with you, I just don't think he fits with the other people in your list.

mandf4109d ago

You are wrong about David Cage. Link an article where he swears, disrespects, or bashes anything in an uneducated manner.

rainslacker4108d ago

Why is that sad? He had a major role to play in the first Xbox, and as such his knowledge would be welcomed by many in the industry.

The first Xbox had clear goals, his current beef is that those goals aren't living up to what they should, and instead MS is focusing on a future potential that just doesn't exist in the manner that they seem to think it wil. It seems to be pretty fair criticism to me.

I know if I were a big part in creating something, I would be disappointed in a new direction that I didn't feel was viable for the long term. I don't think he's right in all his assertions, but I do believe he does make valid points that should be addressed by MS, or the industry as a whole.

chukamachine4109d ago

What a nob. screaming at the moon.

Christopher4109d ago

This guy doesn't understand universal UI design. All those things he complains about may annoy him, but are necessary for the common person and help to inform users of changes that they may have accidentally have performed. It's a "Better Safe Than Sorry" UI design.

yesmynameissumo4109d ago

It's Windows UI design. Not one of "Better safe than sorry", but "Better have the user do all the work while i'll just ask the same question over and over."

Christopher4109d ago

Nah, that's Sony and the PSN store when you try to purchase something. I hope they learn and change it to mimic their new U.S. browser store in the future.

yesmynameissumo4109d ago

The PS Store is not the XMB. I'm just saying the XMB doesn't SPAM me with questions like the 360's OS.

FamilyGuy4108d ago (Edited 4108d ago )

His complaints are valid, the PS3 doesn't Waste my time warning me before I quit a game, it doesn't ask me where I'd like to save an app, it doesn't phrase general questions to me as if it doesn't know whether I'm doing something game, app or service related. That WOULD be annoying.

The time between pressing "Start Game" to when you're actually playing should be faster (on all consoles) too. Those "splash screens" should only exist the first time you play a game and be at least skip-able thereafter. I know that's more of a dev thing but they could still implement something like how game invite launching lets you bypass it.

The PS Store gripe you mention IS horrible, with ps+ going in to download something for free takes forever just to get to the point where the thing you want starts downloading, it's extremely annoying. Installing sucks too.

This guys MAIN GRIPE is that he can't put out an indie game on the 360 and stand a real chance at making a lot of money on it because it gets hidden, ignored and isn't advertised. He's an indie dev now an feels their frustration with MS.

Christopher4108d ago

***His complaints are valid, the PS3 doesn't Waste my time warning me before I quit a game, it doesn't ask me where I'd like to save an app, it doesn't phrase general questions to me as if it doesn't know whether I'm doing something game, app or service related. That WOULD be annoying. ***

It does all of those but the last.

1. When you use the PS button to exit, just like the middle button on the 360, it asks you if you want to quit you current game.

2. It does indeed ask you where you want to store things if you have an external HDD attached.

FamilyGuy4108d ago

1. When you use the PS button to exit, just like the middle button on the 360, it asks you if you want to quit you current game.

2. It does indeed ask you where you want to store things if you have an external HDD attached.

1. When you hold the PS button or when you press it and select "quit game" all it ask is yes or no, the warning about losing save data does not exist. It's just "Quit Game"? Yes/No

2. It only ask about video files, photos and maybe themes. It doesn't ask where you'd like to save an app, a game, an avatar.

Christopher4108d ago

The warning is the same as the Yes/no on PS3 with just more text. Same exact thing.

It does ask you where you want to save things you download from the PSN. I've had it ask me.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk771d 14h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE1d 11h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7301d 11h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor1d 8h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos1d 8h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor1d 8h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos1d 8h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus233d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC2d ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled3d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies3d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k43d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot3d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC2d ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k42d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k42d ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody3d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead3d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast3d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19793d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead5d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel5d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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