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Kevin Spacey uses PS Vita on Netflix Show ‘House of Cards’

Sony product placements can sometimes be pretty high profile, and this is one of them.

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Snookies124100d ago

Netflix show? It's a show exclusive to Netflix??

dazzrazz4100d ago

Also exclusive on torrents :)

harrisk9544100d ago

"Also exclusive on torrents :)"

Yeah... Theft.... that's the way to get companies to create new media... /s/

CommonSenseGamer4100d ago

@harrisk
You must hate second hand game sales and people who use libraries as well. What about those that record shows and fast forward through the ads?

harrisk9544100d ago (Edited 4100d ago )

You are using a Straw Man Argument. A straw man uses an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

Your comment simply does not refute what I said and does not address the issue in any way. First, your comment mentions "second hand games sales". Second hand game sales are completely different than torrents. When you LEGALLY purchase a game, I personally believe that it is your property and you should be allowed to sell it. A torrent was never yours to distribute in the first place as it is not a LEGAL copy of a game (or other media). It is a one-to-one proposition. If you purchase one copy of a game, that one copy is in the stream of commerce and (in my opinion) should be allowed to be redistributed. A torrent creates many many digital copies of a piece of media and is distributed by people who never had rights to the media in the first place.

Second,libraries simply allow you to borrow certain media. You do not keep those items. You have the right to use an existing copy of something. At some point, the publisher/developer gets paid for that copy, or they donate its use for the library. Under U.S. copyright law, libraries are also permitted to make reproductions of copyrighted works for preservation and replacement purposes. In terms of pure digital lending (which some libraries now allow you to do with ebooks), libraries can only lend e-books at the pleasure of publishers and not through any legal right. Again, this is the publisher allowing the lending of the digital only media.

A torrent, by its very nature, takes all of the rights of the original copyright holder away. Games (and other media) are created to make money. Bottom line. Yes, we would hope that those in the industry love what they do and love gaming and gamers and innovation (not looking at you Bobby Kotick), but no one wants their work stolen and distributed around their back. It costs money to create these things and most games still lose money or barely break even... By taking away the ability to make back, even a small percentage of that money, torrents stifle innovation and create an environment in which people are concerned (and rightly so) about digital theft.

So, in response your original straw man argument... You are simply wrong about my position.

rpd1234100d ago

@harrisk

Studies actually show that people torrenting material increases sales in the long run. Music, TV, Comics. All have been shown to sell better if people can try them for free first.

Now I doubt people will buy a Netflix account because of this single show, but they may buy it on blu-ray or DVD one day.

Christopher4099d ago

***Studies actually show that people torrenting material increases sales in the long run. Music, TV, Comics. All have been shown to sell better if people can try them for free first. ***

No they don't. There is absolutely no data to prove that piracy increases sales just as there is no data to prove that piracy takes money away from producers. Neither can be proven or has been proven. Any studies you've read that say as such are made up and do not utilize actual data in them that would allow them to make such an argument a credible one.

SilentNegotiator4099d ago (Edited 4099d ago )

"You must hate second hand game sales and people who use libraries as well"

Second hand = One sale for EVERY copy.
Library = government lending with academic intent, one sale for EVERY copy.
Renting = special contracts

Piracy, however = one sale total no matter how many simultaneous owners of a copy. Sometimes zero sales the way that the game is leaked before release.

Time to stop the smug, self-serving, logic-less "piracy A-OK" crap.
Piracy is not....I repeat... NOOOOOOOOT equivalent to 2nd hand, libraries, renting, etc.

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Agent Smith4100d ago

I wanna watch this show. I don't know much about Kevin Spacey except for this

parkerpeters4100d ago

All you need to know about Kevin Spacey is he is better than Gene Hackman. And he can beat the shit out of Superman any day.

InMyOpinion4100d ago

Watch a movie called The usual suspects. And American beauty. Some of his best performances imo. Great actor.

madpuppy4100d ago

Why is everyone acting like Kevin Spacey is some unknown actor???

He's been in ton's of movies and has even received 2 oscar's for best actor and best supporting actor.

Superman happens to be a movie he was apparently slumming in for the money, not any of his major achievements.

Pintheshadows4099d ago

Moon. He plays an emoticon in that. Genuinely brilliant science fiction.

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3-4-54100d ago

They are bringing back Arrested Development as well and it's going to be Netflix exclusive ...can't wait.

aquamala4100d ago

He plays Killzone 3 at home in one of the early episodes :)

also Apple product placement is everywhere

Smurf14100d ago

It could mean that the show is heavily funded by Sony.

Irishguy954100d ago

And Apple/

I doubt it though. Netflix is highly used on Sony systems and Apple - Surprised MS isn't in on it./

Godmars2904100d ago

With that kind of thinking, with a MS exec on Netflix's board as well, who setup the deal which first made it exclusive to the 360, they would have products from their competition off the show.

nukeitall4100d ago

Technically, the PS Vita isn't a real competitor to MS. No more than a smart phone is a competitor to the Xbox 360.

MS also produces software for Android/iOS.

I think if anything, it is Netflix trying to stir up some Netlfix usage on the PS Vita. The vast majority probably find the smart phone more convenient.

Hicken4100d ago

Well, of COURSE the Vita isn't a "real" competitor: it's just one device. The iPhone isn't a competitor to Microsoft, either.

Sony and Apple, however, who produce the Vita and iPhone, ARE REAL competitors.

The Vita's Netflix app, by the way, is pretty darn good. Never used it on a phone, so I dunno about that, but it's extremely easy to use on Vita.

Godmars2904100d ago

Its product from their competitors which strengthens their brand name. See someone famous using a Vita, chances are you'll buy that, then buy a PS3/PS4 because its a directly related product.

Soldierone4100d ago

@hicken, actually the ipood is a competitor to MS. Remember the Zune? (LOL) Plus Windows phone is in direct competition with the Ipoods and ipood phones. I'm sure they also use tablets on the show, do they use the Windows tablet? Sony Xperia tablets? Apple Poop Tablets?

Vita itself isn't direct competition because MS hasn't entered that market directly, however the rest of it has MS products somewhere. He even plays PS3 instead of 360.

However the show is being co funded by Sony, their TV division is partnered with Netflix to distribute it. http://www.deadline.com/201...

TheDivine4099d ago

I was going to make a thread about this. It was crazy awesome to see Spacey ask if it was a P S Vita lol. Classic shit. It's also. Funny to a " congressman" gaming out on a fps. Matter of fact the whole show is awesome. I already finished the season. One of the best shows ever.

Yea Sony obviously ponied up a lot of cash for that but everyone else does it. I see iPads also and I remember the Kinect in plenty of shows. Product placement is a good way to pique interest. Imagine all those people googling P S Vita and finding out about it.

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r214100d ago

Saw this posted on neogaf. I'd love to see Kevin Spacey promote something for killzone mercenary :D

Edward754100d ago

And the sad thing.... The majority of consumers can't tell the difference between the vita and a psp.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 2h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken13h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g22h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing22h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H922h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola18h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66921h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle21h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 14h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 14h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 9h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91321d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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