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PlayStation 4 Announcement Coming in February? Xbox 720 at E3?

Every time new consoles are on the horizon rumors and speculation hit all time highs. Everyone finds a different reason why this console maker will do this or that and for what reason. What we know so far is both Sony and Microsoft have new consoles in development which are more then likely going to launch in 2013 or 2014.

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LOGICWINS4128d ago

"Sony has recently announced that they are holding an event called Destination PlayStation that is primarily attended by retailers in Scottsdale, Arizona from February 25th until February 28th. The invitation are said to point directly at showcasing the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Vita lineup for 2013. Although speculation fueled by the timing of this event have people thinking its the time and place Sony will formally announced their much rumored PlayStation 4."

Ensuring that everyone who is in the market for a PS3 or Vita in the Spring will hold off on buying one and wait for the PS4. Makes perfect sense. Your basically proposing that Sony will shoot themselves in the foot.

Xystence4128d ago

I think both Microsoft and Sony's waiting game will hurt them both in some form or another. Regardless you are correct in your statement!

guitarded774128d ago

Waiting... what do you mean? They can't announce a new console too far ahead as it affects sales of the PS3. When they announce it will be on the big stage at E3. E3 is the single largest media event in the industry, and if they want to build hype, it will be there. PlayStation Destination is to showcase 1st and 2nd quarter titles like God of War, The Last of Us and Sly Cooper. Business keeps people's eyes on what's in the immediate future.

blackbeld4128d ago

Best move is announce it in Februari and Showcase it at E3 and launch it in the summer to.

We wait long enough. Just launch it before the new xbox.

Kevin ButIer4128d ago

Both statements are valid, but February is too close for an unveil. Still, we should expect some leaks by that time.

guitarded774128d ago

@ blackbeld

Is Februari Italian for February?

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SynGamer4128d ago

Something Sony should consider is announcing the next PlayStation (PS4?) early Spring, showing it off with playable demos at E3, and then releasing it in August or September. That gives them first out of the gate + an option for holiday bundles a couple months after release just as initial launch hype is starting to die down.

The announcement at Destination PlayStation gives retailers and industry folk official notice of what is coming (in some form, not all details will be revealed) and then E3 is the big reveal + playable demo. Personally, the key here is playable demos for gamers/industry to experience the "next-generation" and then be able to buy it a few months later.

CraigandDayDay4128d ago

They announced the Vita at a special event in Feb. 2011. So, they could very well do so for the PS4/Orbis/Omni. Then show more off at GDC and then a blowout at E3. Then a launch in the Fall.

TheGamerDood4128d ago (Edited 4128d ago )

I can see it now, they debut it in Feb release it late summer early Fall with MGS5, HD version of LoU, Beyond, UC4, GTA 5, Planetside 2. It would be f**king beast!

Sarcasm4127d ago

Actualli they are announcing PS3/Vita stuff in Februari, but by E3i they can announce a PS4.

DragonKnight4127d ago

@DK286K: Sony could announce the PS4 today and MS would still fail at E3. They haven't done anything well at E3 for so long I doubt anyone remembers the last time they had a good showing at an E3 event.

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iamnsuperman4128d ago

Also Destination Playsation isn't new. Is it the 12 or 13th year of it????

If I was Sony (and I was doing a PS4 reveal at E3) I would unveil some big stuff there and then have a smaller show for the PS3 and Vita at E3 (Vita having a bigger one than the PS3)

Xystence4128d ago

I actually agree with everything you just said. That would be a smart move!

UnholyLight4128d ago

Well apparently they haven't done it in a while now so No it's not an annual thing like E3

MoonWheel4128d ago

I disagree because e3 is a much bigger event and they need to show the ps4 there and not waste the opportunity.

DeadlyFire4127d ago (Edited 4127d ago )

PS3 and Vita titles will be shown off here at this event for 2013.

PS4 will be shown off primarily at E3 with a small showing of PS3 games and PSVita titles. As well as Vita/PS4 connectivity. Possibly evolved Vita/PS4 interactivity much more capabilities than PS3/Vita.

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Zefros4128d ago

It really depends on WHEN they are releasing the console, if they are releasing the ps4 i summer, they will announce it in february, if winter, they will announce it right before or right after E3.

DarkZane4128d ago

Except Nintendo showed the WiiU at E3 2011, then they showed some more at E3 2012 to release it in 2012.

If Sony and Microsoft show something at E3 2013, it doesn't mean they will release it in 2013.

BitbyDeath4128d ago

Vita being a handheld wouldn't lose marketshare to PS4.
PS3 could unless Sony can keep the enthusiasm going by either dropping the price or driving motivation through their upcoming games.

It's got to happen at some point anyway and current rumours are pointing towards a September release which is not really that far away so sooner it is announced the better.

LOGICWINS4128d ago (Edited 4128d ago )

Vita is a $250+ gaming console/media entertainment hub. It IS competing with the PS4, portable or not. These devices(PS3, PS4, Vita) are all hardcore HD gaming devices. They are all equally competing for your time and money in this respect.

Most don't have the discretionary income to spend $250+ on a home console and then a week later spend ANOTHER $250+ on a portable console to play on the hour train ride home from school/work(one of the reasons Vita is struggling with pre-existing PS3 owners atm).

When the average person buys a $250 gaming console(portable or not), they don't plan on buying ANOTHER $250 gaming console for several years...since they JUST spent close to $300.

The only company that CAN do this is Apple due to their aggressive marketing and sheep consumers. This is what enables them to have a MacBook(big brother), iPAD(smaller brother), iPOD touch(even smaller brother), iPod mini(smallest brother) all coexist and sell well.

"PS3 could unless Sony can keep the enthusiasm going by either dropping the price or driving motivation through their upcoming games."

I think Sony will bundle the PS3 and Vita for $399 as a counter option to the PS4. This would make all three devices attractive.

BitbyDeath4128d ago (Edited 4128d ago )

Will have to agree to disagree.
Handhelds and Consoles have about as much in common as a school bag and a travel bag IMO.

Sure they are both bags but made for two completely different uses, when people go shopping they generally know what purpose it is to be used for. Be it school (console) or travel (handheld).

Thus being two different markets.

EddieNX 4128d ago

Nintendo's biggest threat in japan to wiiu now for the future is trying to not be overshadowed by their own 3DS. Same goes for Sony...

LOGICWINS4128d ago (Edited 4128d ago )

"Handhelds and Consoles have about as much in common as a school bag and a travel bag IMO."

But if the prices of that travel bag and school bag are comparable, you see where I'm coming from right? Assuming both bags are priced the same, lets say $20.

Wouldn't a consumer feel cheated if they get the school bag, considering that they can get a bigger bag with more space...for the same price?

Your correct in saying that one device is more portable than another, but in the end, both have the same general purpose...which is to carry items.

Lets apply this concept to the PS3/Vita. Both are comparable in price, and although one is more portable than the other..the general use for each is gaming.

"It's like saying "I won't buy ipad if new mac book comes out"

I touched on that in my earlier comment. Apple is an exception to the rule for various reasons.

BitbyDeath4128d ago (Edited 4128d ago )

@Logic,

I see where you're coming from but what if the bag is too big for what's required? Maybe the size will stop it from fitting in a locker or just simply make it too unconventional to use due to what it offers?

I'll give you that it may not apply in all cases but for most the consumer should know what they want.

LOGICWINS4128d ago (Edited 4128d ago )

^^Agree completely! It really depends on the person to what degree of importance the aspect portability has to the purchase.

What I'm willing to wager(judging from Vita's sales performance so far)is that portability ISN'T a major factor for MOST hardcore gamers.

Personally speaking, I'm more attracted to the Vita for its upcoming exclusive titles than its (portability/form factor)

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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4128d ago (Edited 4128d ago )

@LOGICWINS
"Ensuring that everyone who is in the market for a PS3 or Vita in the Spring will hold off on buying one and wait for the PS4."

ps2 has sold for 12 years and stopped just before ps4 now.. Also why would ps4 have conflict with on the go gaming? Will ps4 do it better?

It's like saying "I won't buy ipad if new mac book comes out"..

Or maybe I don't know sh!t? That could be possible.

I hope they do announce it! That way we can skip the 20 min e3 talk about the history of playstation and get into new games and game play in the beginning instead of a reveal at the end.

I just want to see the games.

nukeitall4128d ago (Edited 4128d ago )

"It's like saying "I won't buy ipad if new mac book comes out".."

Both items are competing for your money and your time so yes, that does happen. There is definitely an overlap of market especially due to the pricing being basically identical.

Personally, I was considering getting an ultra laptop OR a tablet, but settling on MS Surface Pro instead when it is released. :)

"Or maybe I don't know sh!t? That could be possible."

:)

LOGICWINS4128d ago

"Personally, I was considering getting an ultra laptop OR a tablet, but settling on MS Surface Pro instead when it is released. :)"

Same here lol.

UnholyLight4128d ago

Personally I think LOGIC is right. I was always going to go a Vita but then I was like why the hell would I buy that when for the same price I can get a PS3...He's right about Apple though, really is the only company where everyone HAS to have every single freaking product. It's ridiculous. For a guy like myself I chose to buy neither the PS3 or Vita now that it is getting so close to time for the next wave of consoles. Regardless of price point and if the release next to each other I will buy BOTH the PS4 and the Nextbox.

AngelicIceDiamond4128d ago (Edited 4128d ago )

A full blown PS4 announcement in febuuary? Knowing they still have AAA's coming out in the next 5 months? Yeah I doubt Sony would announce such a behemoth.

Destination PlayStation will showcase allot but a PS4 announcement won't be one of them imo.

fermcr4128d ago (Edited 4128d ago )

Microsoft's console should of been released last year. The wait is probably going to hurt them in the future.

As for PS4, i think 2013 would be a good year to release it. Later then 2013 would probably be bad for Sony.

rainslacker4128d ago

Since this is a retailer retreat type of event it's unlikely they will announce anything that big. They will show off exactly what they said they would, as it's what they've done every time in the past. Retail executives don't care about that "OMG...PWN'D" feeling that fan boys do.

Abdou234128d ago

My PS3 just died, and i have games yet to play, what should i do now? Timing couldn't be worse.

cl19834128d ago

Buy another used cheaply.

RedDevils4127d ago

SMASH IT! Give it to a homeless guy or sell it on ebay lol

Seriously just repair it (if it cheap enough) you can play it for couple of months, and when it broke down again try play somes on the PC enough time when the PS4 arrive

Autolycus884127d ago

Eggy weggs... I want to smash them!

ThePUNisher4128d ago

I somehow doubt that anyone who has waited this many years to buy a PS3 will be buying its successor at launch, nor do I see how this relates to the Vita at all.

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showtimefolks4128d ago

while i do see sony atleast talking about their new system before E3, i also see the other side where if they announce it too soon than ps3 will loose some steam and many would hold out for a ps4.

i say at GDC we will most likely hear something, while E3 is the single biggest media event what you want to do is get the news to those who don't watch E3 or come to gaming sites, i say maybe right before E3 get people excited by announcing we will be show casing our new system at E3 so as many people as possible would watch it

also announcing a new system would mean price drop for ps3 for sure, i know sony recently started making money on ps3's so are they in a position to give $100 price drop?

next few months will be fun to speculate

wastedcells4128d ago

Sony has all their big games coming out before E3 so that I think is the biggest sign of a PS4 reveal at E3.

helghast1024128d ago

That changes nothing, they need to announce it eventually, better now than say, Xmas 2013

Gamer19824127d ago

Although Sony has more games than MS before May 2013 if they dont announce PS4 at destination playstation what they gonna talk about? As there is a still a lack in games after May 2013.. All we know about is 1313 and GTA 5.

extermin8or4127d ago (Edited 4127d ago )

No this late in the game, people just buying a ps3 wont get ps4 on launch for the price it will cost-the few people like me that need to replace a ps3 etc and are waiting till after e3 if no announcement has shown up... This echo's how they have announced previous consoles and I fully expect at the very least a big tease and confrimation of the device of not a dull reveal....

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EliteDave934128d ago

Doubt it. If anything its going to be E3 2013.

tdogchristy904128d ago

What If they did what ms did past e3. Do a basic announcement in feb, then a full reveal at e3 with a launch at e3 as well. Kind of like the xbox slim?

nukeitall4128d ago

Sony could, but since this is an event for primarily retailers, it doesn't seem like the right place to announce a new Playstation.

Sounds more like people are just wishy wishing!

Gamer19824127d ago

Indeed they could do that to build excitement and take some wind out of MS sails coming into E3. However then MS would probably "win" E3 as they would have a new console to announce. I would prefer to see a ton of ps4 games though rather than all the new console features at E3. Unlike MS who will just show us 90% console 10% games no doubt as thats what you do with a console (and kinect)

Y_51504128d ago

Sounds great to me! Sony announced the Vita during late January if I'm correct so I hope they do an early announcement for the PS4 E3 feels way to far away and less time to hype it up till late 2013. I want to hop on this hype train sooner than later.

SAE4128d ago (Edited 4128d ago )

The sooner the better for everyone ..

I also hope they announce a remote/cross controle for all the games in ps4 , vita can remote pc games , remote desktop showed that , so it's not hard for vita ..

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 5h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle16h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188114h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio13h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning778h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga16h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv722h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218315h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga14h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan10h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit2h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv728h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10118h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos18h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-8h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac17h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10117h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic15h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead8h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 15h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken1d 1h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 11h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 10h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 11h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 7h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 10h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 9h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere2d ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 23h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 21h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 14h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 16h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 12h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 23h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 9h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 9h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger6h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto2d ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos2d ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 22h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 23h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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