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Reality Check: There’s a Strong Chance We’ll Have a PS4 and Xbox 720 A Year From Now

Kotaku
We talk to people. It's part of our job. And lately we're not hearing any big bombshells about the next generation of game consoles, but we're hearing the same buzz we've been hearing all year: the next generation of Xbox and PlayStation are right around the corner.

The vibe I get when I hear about Durango is that Microsoft is on the mark. Sony appears to inspire less confidence, though I've had a hard time nailing down why and discerning how much lost confidence is due to the on-and-off troubles of the PlayStation 3 and the struggles of the Vita vs. how much lost confidence is due to any problems looming for PS4. What I do know is that confidence is high that the next Xbox will be out in time for next Christmas. Confidence is less high that Sony will pull off the same feat, though they want to.

wishingW3L4167d ago

we'll know for real in 5-6 months anyway.

I_LOVE_MYSELF4167d ago

I have a strong feeling that new consoles will be announced. I need them to be announced now so I can enjoy my PS3 for a couple of years and ease into next gen at a price drop. I don't want to be bored of this gen and feel the need to buy a next gen console at launch.

Y_51504167d ago

That's werid...
You say that you are bored of this generation but you can last a couple more years of this generation? Read what you post please.

I_LOVE_MYSELF4167d ago

I said I want to enjoy my PS3 for a couple more years meaning I won't be bored. If a new console isn't released by the end of those years then I will be bored. Learn to read properly, please.

ABizzel14166d ago

Kotaku trolling Sony once again. Surprise, surprise.

"The vibe I get when I hear about Durango is that Microsoft is on the mark. Sony appears to inspire less confidence, though I've had a hard time nailing down why and discerning how much lost confidence is due to the on-and-off troubles of the PlayStation 3 and the struggles of the Vita vs. how much lost confidence is due to any problems looming for PS4. "

What the F()@# does PS3 and Vita have to do with Sony's or anyone's confidence in the PS4. MS and Sony are rumored to be using practically the EXACT same GPU, most likely the EXACT amount of RAM, the EXACT same media format Blu Ray, thus the only difference being the CPU in which case MS's should be the more powerful (but Kinect 2 will eat some of that power) while Sony's is better for games and graphics which is the selling point of a VIDEO GAME console.

This is beyond ignorant to me. Both companies are suppose to be using off the shelf products besides MS CPU which is why MS is the unlikely company to launch 2013 because they're supposedly having problems developing and mass manufacturing the CPU.

SONY IS BUYING OFF THE SHELF AMD-A10's. WHY IN THE HE!! WOULD THEY HAVE PROBLEMS LAUNCHING WITH OFF THE SHELF PRODUCTS.

It makes no sense. Sometimes a tiny bit of critical thinking goes a long way.

"What I do know is that confidence is high that the next Xbox will be out in time for next Christmas. Confidence is less high that Sony will pull off the same feat, though they want to."

Of course confidence is high at MS. They want to get the Nextbox or Xbox 1080 (thanks Kotaku reader for that one) out by the end of the year, so they don't have to miss holiday sales, and they don't give Sony a head start, so they're doing everything they can to get the CPU running and into production. SOny on the other hand has nothing to worry about because AMD has all their stuff taken care of (if the AMD rumors are true).

ABizzel14166d ago (Edited 4166d ago )

Then he wraps up with:

"But is there room for both against a year-old Wii U, potential Valve-backed hardware and the generally-resurgent PC and the presumed iPad 5 and other tablets of Christmas 2013?"

Wii-U will have no effect on gamers who are looking for PS3 and Xbox exclusives, and if the PS4 and Xbox 1080 are superior to the Wii-U as the article states then HD gamers are going to pass on the Wii-U until it gets a larger enough library of core games, and a price where it's a must buy.

And as far as PC goes, that's going to hurt Xbox a lot more than it will PlayStation because, PC and Xbox share nearly 90% of the same library, where as Sony can still count on it's vast amount of exclusives to entice the PC gamers.

iPad 5 isn't going to do anything. It may cut into sales a bit just because people will choose to buy it, but GAMERS are going to buy a games console or a PC, not a iPad.

"What happens if Sony slips to 2014?"

EXTREMELY UNLIKELY. MS is more likely to slip. The only way Sony slips to 2014 is if they want to give the PS3 another full year of games, but seeing how all their big exclusives are scheduled for the first half of 2013 I seriously doubt that's going to happen.

"Through all of this, what if the impressive console-market-leading momentum that the 360 has had for two years continues... and people don't feel the need for new consoles? What if game-makers feel the need to keep making games for the 360/PS3/WiiU standard not just through 2013 but into 2014 and 2015, too?"

"Console-market-leading momentum that the 360 has had for two years continues." I'm not even going to comment on that. As for the rest, it happens all the time. Developers who can't afford to move to the next generation will continue to develop for Xbox 360, PS3, Wii-U. That's why Sony can say their console will have a 10 year life cycle. It's also why MS says they want the Xbox 360 to last for 10 years now, and it's what the Wii-U is banking on if the PS4 and Xbox 1080 turn out to be powerhouse consoles. Games will continue being made for the PS360 well into 2015 and possibly into 2016 and beyond, until budgets are lowered and tools make developing easier (although it should be easy since they're both practically PC's).

However, the big third party developers like EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Kojima Productions, Capcom, Square Enix, and more will be moving on the to PS4 and Xbox 1080, and those developers / publisher control the success of a console (along with first party). If they're not making games for your console you're not going to succeed unless you a casual gaming device like Cell Phones and Tablets.

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ritsuka6664167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

Sony not learned anything from this generation?

If they're releasing PS4 in Autumn 2014, then they have to absolutely be praying that the new Xbox is specifically, only targeting the casual/Kinect crowd and PS4 can come out as the hardcore console gamer choice. I rally don't see how else they survive next gen.

caseh4167d ago

Uhh yeah, because the PS3 has clearly stuggled this genration hasn't it. I mean to say, if the NextBox releases Halo 5 Sony will clearly be f*cked...

/s

stage884167d ago

The PlayStation brand is stronger than ever. You must live in the USA...
I'd be more worried for Microsoft. When PSN is upgraded MS won't have any features that warrant payment for Live.

Conzul4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

This is quite true, unless Sony bungles and ties too many of its new features into PS+

Megaton4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

The PlayStation brand has never been weaker. Microsoft has spent billions to make "Xbox" the trendy console name, and now it is paying dividends.

Sony became the console king right out the gate, and then continued their dominance with their second offering, the PS2. The PS3 has been a colossal failure by comparison, trailing behind two rivals they easily crushed in the past. The console market was theirs to lose, and lose it they did.

Shaman4167d ago

"The PlayStation brand is stronger than ever"...maybe on N4G it is, but in the real world? I think you need reality check.

Thatguy-3104167d ago

@Megaton
Well if the 360 trailed the PS3 with selling 50+mill more consoles then I would have agreed with you that they fell this year but it didn't. Yes it didn't conquer like it did the past two generations but they kept up with the competition which is Microsoft so they didn't really lose. Think both consoles will release around the same time. Couple of months tops a year I doubt it.

BitbyDeath4167d ago

PS3 have sold 10 million more consoles than 360 if you start from the PS3 launching so it's not really losing.

All a matter of perspective, but that said we should stop playing numbers and just enjoy the games.

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ABizzel14166d ago

The fact of the matter is the PS3 has been outselling the Xbox 360 EVERY YEAR since 2008, hence the reason the 360's 8 million console lead is down to barely 1 million, and at a price that has always been higher than the 360.

The Nextbox is rumored to be more Powerful than the PS4 (simply because it'll need a better CPU to run Kinect 2.0), so it's likely to cost a bit more, unless MS takes a cut and use XBL to replace the loss. But if it cost more then we'll see how things go when the shoe is on the other foot and MS comes out after the PS4 (again another rumor thanks to CPU issues) and with a higher price.

hennessey864167d ago

I'm ready for the next gen consoles now

showtimefolks4167d ago

there is no strong chance let me confirm it for everyone, ps4 will be released in fall of 2013.

ms will try their best to launch same time with ps4 but from rumors you can read that they are having some issue with IBM

i say both will launch around blackfriday 2013

BitbyDeath4167d ago

PS3 games schedule for next year also proves this.

I just hope it launches worldwide at the same time (or close to)

BXbomber4167d ago

amazing....already kotaku claiming sony is doom to fail and xbox will prevail. getting tired of all the love the media gives microsoft.

ALLWRONG4167d ago (Edited 4167d ago )

There is no doom and gloom in the article, just speculation about launches. Let me guess... you must be angry over the comment about the Vita struggling, which it is.

Saigon4166d ago

If I am not mistaken this is what they said:

"The vibe I get when I hear about Durango is that Microsoft is on the mark. Sony appears to inspire less confidence, though I've had a hard time nailing down why and discerning how much lost confidence is due to the on-and-off troubles of the PlayStation 3 and the struggles of the Vita vs. how much lost confidence is due to any problems looming for PS4. "

...and then he mentions the launch.

Saigon4166d ago

I thought I was the only one to notice that...

Who do they talk to when they get there information? The other sites that I have read rumors say the complete opposite. This is why I hate rumor.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead1d 9h ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 7h ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow1d 15h ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo18219h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie10h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin6h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Hereandthere1h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

OtterX22h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

RNTody22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno21h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno19h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii6h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno4h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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Game Studio Closures, Entertainment News, Disney, And More Skewedcast

The full Skewedcast crew back for this episode and Gareth, Justin, Michael, and JoeyZ at Skewed and Reviewed break down the latest entertainment news qith a focus at 40:00 on the Microsoft Studio Closures and how it impacts the game community and what can be done to help offset this negative trend.