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Xbox 720 Upgradeable Design The Solution To PS4

product-reviews.net: No matter what you think about the Wii U you have to admire the way Nintendo are trying to innovate with their so-called next-generation console, so when it comes to the Xbox 720 and PS4 we hope that something truly innovative is delivered when we finally see the release date for these expected powerhouses. One way this can be done with the Xbox 720 is by making it upgradeable, and it wouldn’t be the first time we’ve heard this, although as we move closer to a launch it seems more possible considering the speed at which PC hardware is advancing and also looking back at Microsoft patents.

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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4175d ago (Edited 4175d ago )

pc gaming for everyone!

Actually this would be better than pc imo if they offered say 3 tires of upgrades kits over time. Maybe every 3 1/2 years they would offer upgrade kits over the course of 11 years. That would give you more power and they could still do console optimization.

also this is not gonna happen.

Welshy4175d ago (Edited 4175d ago )

This idea totally defeats the purpose of console gaming in my opinion.

When i bought my 360 and PS3, i bought in the knowledge that from that day on. every single game released would perform as intended and equally with everyone else for the next 4-6 years.

If consoles start to to hardware upgrades, they would be nothing more than restricted PC's.

With a PC, you can upgrade anything, anytime you want, why would i shell out £300-400 on something knowing that not all games in the future will run fully? Or having to wait for Sony or Microsoft to tell me when and what i can upgrade.

If consoles become upgradable, they will have completely lost their purpose and identity not to mention a whole lot of sales (excluding uninformed buyers).

nukeitall4175d ago

There is a big difference between this approach and PC. The main one is the PC path is riddled with nasty incompatibilities and pretty poor overall user experience.

There is no reason this upgradeable console can't have games that are still backwards compatible with the Xbox you bought and at the same time compatible with the upgraded part.

That means the developers only have to test and optimize the game with two versions of the hardware as opposed to gazillion with PC.

Retain all the benefits of console, yet make it current with the times. Sounds like a winner for me.

hellvaguy4175d ago

"This idea totally defeats the purpose of console gaming in my opinion."

I kinda see your point, but if done right, I do like the idea behind it. I mean nothing can stay the same forever. Have to evolve or the competition will do it for you and take over.

DeadlyFire4174d ago

Don't worry this doesn't mean anything about upgrades.

This is the specsheet layout of the Xbox 720. Nothing about upgrades at all.

Communication fabric = ARM CPU? Sounds so similar to this? http://www.anandtech.com/sh...

Other CPU/GPUs. 1 CPU/GPU each for Kinect 2/projector room, X360 compatibility, and X720 game design.

Yes? or No?

SilentNegotiator4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

"There is a big difference between this approach and PC. The main one is the PC path is riddled with nasty incompatibilities and pretty poor overall user experience"

Better, but it would STILL cause fissures in compatibility and the community.

Upgradeable consoles absolutely defeat the purpose of consoles.

ShabbaRanks4174d ago

Remember the N64 .... :)

I don't think its a bad Idea, but anyways RAM is so cheap now that next gen will most likely have 4gbs minimum. If not MS and Sony are retarded... The only thing missing will be the SSD that I will definitely get at the same time xP

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Oh_Yeah4175d ago (Edited 4175d ago )

The name xbox infinite would actually make sense if it's upgradeable.. Hopefully it is. Every 4 years or so just release an upgrade kit instead of a whole new console...same case, different parts..it would save everyone including the companies a bunch of money.

Jazz41084175d ago

Not to seem uneducated but please tell me what Tires has to do with this? I must be missing something Shutup?

JamieL4174d ago

I think he meant tiers.

Mike134nl4174d ago

Either way in some sense a new xbox720 or whatever will be upgradable to some extent with hard-drives and maybe some new face plates I assume .

Leaving a slot open for possible future ram upgrades like the n64 is possible. In Microsoft case I would guess any upgrade kits to the system would only influence the media and apps functions of the box and not the specifications needed to play games.

An additional processor might be included in kinect(2),but this is not a upgrade to the box.

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chukamachine4175d ago

PS3/360 already have upgradeable parts.

HD,LOL.

As for anything else, just no.

Already got a pc, don't need another one.

All console games must run the same.

PtRoLLFacE4175d ago

it sounds good but is going to have a big impact on the design, in a consoles every component is glued to the motherboard reducing the size of the machine, the only way i see it, is having gpu, cpu and ram cramped to a different board with is own cooling system, and then make attachable to the motherboard just like pc graphic cards, if everything is separate like normal pc it needs a different cooling system for each piece, increasing the size of the console, and don't forget the power supply, i don't know how that will play out, but the idea it self is not bad as long as they don't make upgrades every six months lol

AAACE54175d ago

Believe it or not consoles used to be made with upgrades in mind. The n64 had the ram upgrade and an under slot for the disc drive that only released in japan. The sega genesis had so many addons it was sickening.

It wouldnt be hard to design a console that has slots to upgrade ram and gpu. But the cpu would probably have to stay in place.

It would be cool if we were able to swap out disc drives since those die out.

Bathyj4175d ago

The RAM expansion only came out after they realised Perfect Dark was going to run like crap without it and it was a big game for Nintendo with alot of anticipation for it. It never would have released if not for that game.

And it was horribly under utilised by other games that came after that.

I can only surmise that the fact there was a slot even built for it that Nintendo knew the N64 was going to be lacking in this area from the start.

cee7734175d ago (Edited 4175d ago )

then why was it a slot for ram genius

THC CELL4175d ago (Edited 4175d ago )

Sony owns a patent to upgradable consoles http://www.gtplanet.net/for...

konnerbllb4175d ago

They own a patent to do a very specific thing with their own console. They don't own a patent on upgradable consoles, that's ridiculous. Notice how Sony patented their own kinect technology earlier this year and didn't get sued into the ground by Microsoft? The same idea can be patented for different applications using different means of achieving what is patented.

ALLWRONG4175d ago

@THC CELL Why the hell did you post that?

GraveLord4175d ago

Never going to happen. The whole point of consoles is that you don't to worry about any sort of settings/requirements. Just pop in and play.

Why would someone buy an upgrade-able console when they can just buy a PC which would give you a much wider range of options.

Indo4174d ago (Edited 4174d ago )

Exactly. Everyone buys a console for the simplicity factor. If you want an upgradable system invest in a Gaming PC.

BitbyDeath4175d ago

Story Quality = WTF?

Consoles are popular because you don't have to upgrade.
Aside from Software you literally plug and play.

Why nerd it up?

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers13h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

just_looken1m ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g9h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing9h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H99h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola5h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6698h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle8h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN21h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos19h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN12h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo14h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies10h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger21h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic8h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows907h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto23h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos23h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long20h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel22h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator21h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 1h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola20h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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