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Opinion: The PS Vita is Stuck in the Middle of Nowhere

GV writes: Last week’s Media Create sales in Japan should have opened the eyes of even the staunchest Vita supporter.

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spurgeonryan4193d ago

This weeks numbers were pretty bad as well.

Moonman4193d ago

I usually don't comment on Vita's performance but 4K in a November week the first holiday Vita is available? Earlier reports in October that Dreamcast sold better in the same time period in Japan? This is kinda like a train wreck.

NYC_Gamer4193d ago

Why do people expect?PSV doesn't have enough support/content.

-Mika-4193d ago (Edited 4193d ago )

And it will continue to not have enough support because you and other core gamers continue to not purchase the system. Not buying the system is not going to make it get any support. What you're doing is not helping. Keep that in mind.

Also the vita does have a-lot of content. In my honest opinion, the vita and the 3ds are in the same boat when it comes to games and content.

Do you really want to be stuck with the 3ds for the next 5-6 years? Like the hardware and the UI is so outdated. The vita has so much potential and it upsets me that people are not buying it. Like you letting a great system die.

Trunkz4193d ago (Edited 4193d ago )

"Also the vita does have a-lot of content. In my honest opinion, the vita and the 3ds are in the same boat when it comes to games and content."

Who are you trying to fool?

Sony lately always has better hardware then Nintendo but look who's out on top each time? If they had the same content then why is the Vita doing so bad in sales?

I swear every Vita fan enjoy sniffing their own farts.

Meep4193d ago

"And it will continue to not have enough support because you and other core gamers continue to not purchase the system. Not buying the system is not going to make it get any support. What you're doing is not helping. Keep that in mind."

lolwut? That thought process...ok fine let me buy products that I believe are sub-par and not worth the money, so they can get my support...

Before People start helping the PS Vita, the PS Vita has to help itself.

Blastoise4193d ago (Edited 4193d ago )

To be fair, they should be persuading potential customers to buy the hardware, with software.

Why would I buy a Vita for potential future games?

The 3DS is selling like hot cakes in Japan because Animal Crossing Jump Out has just come out, the PSP is selling better because it's still getting new games too.

It's games are gradually increasing, but it just needs more.

Just get more RPG's, Strategy, puzzle, Horror games on it. And I'll be glad to buy one.
It needs more unique titles like Gravity Rush

I don't want another Assassins creed when I don't even like the console versions -_-'

uncharted564193d ago

And we wont get it because there is not enough content or any content that may make me get the system. Sony is doing the same thing as Nintendo. Where are the AAA games that may make want to buy the system. There are none. If you don't give the customer any reason to get the system they simply wont get it.

Baylex4193d ago

Yeah and don't forget that people with the psp are stuck with them because of those stupid UMD's...
The very first DS game that came out to the first DS, like nintendogs or something is still compatible with the 3DS!!!
This is something that's fuc ki ng the vita!!
If the vita was compatible with UMD's (I know it's ridiculous) then Sony were selling alot more vitas...
But no... Sony wanted to be creative like nintendo... and invented those stupid plastic discs... It's all their fault..
Now all those kids that had old DS's are upgrading to the 3DS without losing all their old games!!

Now here is the reality!! People only wanted some incentive to buy the console, wich is a price drop.
It's not about new games or AAA games.. that would come with time...
The first thing to think is "were are going my old games? that cost me a lot of money and time to finish them??"..."Wait, WHAT??? I will never be able to play them on the new console?? Fuck that I'll stick with the old one!!"

ABizzel14193d ago (Edited 4193d ago )

The Vita is the best handheld ever, from a pure hardware perspective, but there are multiple problems with the Vita that Sony needs to address, but the biggest one is....

1. Content. The Vita has some really good games, but people don't buy consoles for some good games. They buy them for a library of good games. The Vita has an ok library of great games, but if you take away the multiplatform and "inferior" console ports than the library is bleek. The Vita needs games and it needs them bad. We know games are coming, but we need them here, and until then Sony needs to do whatever they can to get more developer support onto the Vita with full development cycles and not ports with less than 6 months of development time. Even if the Vita sales huge numbers this holiday and gets a ton of developer support because of it, we won't be able to see any of those games until holiday 2013 at the earliest, which is a huge problem.

But not all is lost. PS+ has just launched for the Vita, and it's Day 1 launch is mindblowingly good. Uncharted, Gravity Ruch, Wipeout, Jet Set Radio, Final Fantasy Tatics, and Tales from Space will all be free, and not cost a penny more if you already have PS+ for your PS3. This is a huge boon for the Vita and PS+, but it also shows how dire things are for the Vita. However, to increase sales of the Vita, Sony needs to continue this trend. Sony needs to promote the most downloaded or talked about games from the PS1 era, PS Minis, and PSP on PSN for the Vita, and/or add them to PS+. It's an easy way to give PS Vita a library of games to play especially those who missed out on a lot of what the PSP had to offer. Keep Vita software far away from PS+ until at least 6 months after launch, you don't want to cut into sales for the systems software. Every month add 6 new games to PS+ for Vita, and there will be no complaints about never having anything to play. Most of all LET PEOPLE KNOW there will be 6 new games added to PS+ for Vita each month, so they're not second guessing if they should jump in or not. A second guess is a possible sale lost. Also give people a 10% off discount for buying games from PSN instead of retail, and then give gamers another 10% for having PS+ and buying games (those savings will get more people to buy directly from you, thus more money in your pocket, plus more memory cards sold). Gamers would go digital if it meant they paid $48.60 for a new game instead of $59.99.
(All of this should be done by March aka next fiscal year)

PSMobile and PSN games need to be tailored for Vita. PSN games should all be CrossPlay and CrossBuy (Xplay & Xbuy) from now on. If it comes to the PS3 it needs to have a Vita version as well that let's you play with and against PS3 players or pick up where you let off from the PS3. The only exception is fi the game is a retail PS3 title, or if the Vita isn't capable of running the game. PSMobile needs to get as many games, apps, and features from tablets as it can to make the Vita more tablet like (aka it's true competition in the market). Android HD Marketplace is the best place to start. It's full of great games, and they should be easily ported to the Vita, even if they don't offer standard controls. It gives the Vita tons of other uses besides gaming, and give it great phone games like NOVA 2, Infinity Blade, Angry Birds (....), Peggle, and more. Most importantly THESE GAMES CANNOT COST MORE than they do on phones and tablets, or else they will buy the game on the other device.
(All of this should be announced by E3 2013 and implemented over the remainder of the year.)

Finally make PS2 titles playable on the Vita if possible. Make HD Collection playable on the Vita if possible. Last but not least, get REMOTE PLAY WORKING ON THE VITA, lag free if possible.

profgerbik4193d ago (Edited 4193d ago )

Again Mika, well said.

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Blacktric4193d ago (Edited 4193d ago )

"Why do people expect?PSV doesn't have enough support/content."

And that justifies everything in a second right? Then, why don't they just AT LEAST attempt to do better by securing more IP's and creating new ones for the system? And please, please don't give me the; "3DS also did bad at first" bullshit. 3DS sales never EVER went down below 20k even before the price cut and especially not this fast. From this point on, Sony needs something surprising and unexpected if they want to get better sales as quick as possible.

"Not buying the system is not going to make it get any support. "

Expecting people to dish out 250 dollars on a system that's barely have anything worth getting sure is not over the board...

/s

ritsuka6664193d ago (Edited 4193d ago )

No killer app for Japan= no sales. Graphics hoar games like Uncharted aren't enough. Unless you're an American game journalist.

NYC_Gamer4193d ago

It's the 3rd party Japanese studios fault.I'm sure Sony would love Monster Hunter and all the rest on PSV..It's the Japanese studios who would rather support 3DS with tons of software...

tiffac0084193d ago

Its not only that but Sony is still supporting the PSP in the Land of the Rising Sun. So the 3rd party developers have no incentive to abandon the older device for the newer ones.

What makes it even worse, the new PSP games may not even be compatible with the Vita and even if they are no one knows about it because its not advertised for both system.

Look at what Ninty did with the DS, they stopped supporting it the moment the 3DS came out and after the rough patch, the 3DS took off with flying colors because all the 3rd party developers are working on the 3DS and not its predecessor.

rpd1234193d ago

You spelled "whore" wrong.

And you can't just make developers support the Vita. For them to have incentive to support it, there needs to be a large install base, and for there to be a large install base there needs to be developer support. It's a vicious cycle which is why the Vita is kind of stuck.

Nutsack4193d ago (Edited 4193d ago )

PSVita is just about now getting a sales boost by the PS+ PSVita instant game collection.

I see PS3 users that are PS+ subscriber too jumping in at this very moment, as they see the free content for PSVita on their subscription without any extra costs for PS+. If they don't buy a PSVita they feel they're missing out on the content.

Even though the price still has to drop below 200, to get closer to the 3DS pricelevel and Sony needs to get Monster Hunter, Final Fantasy etc on board for Japan, Black Friday and Christmas sales will look a lot better with this PS+ support for PSVita.

And those saying 3DS does so much better in games, it does not. All it does is rehashing the same old 1st party Nintendo IP's that the Wii did too. And the 3DS hardware is rubbish compared to the powerful PSVita.

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@ Gordon

Go read on the Playstation Blogs with the PS+ introduction instant game collection for the PSVita, people on the spot saying they bought or are buying one because of this. People on N4G forums too, on other websites same.

You'll see the sales go up in upcoming sales reports. Oh and pricedrops are incoming. Sony is testing in small countries like overhere, a PSVita Wifi down from 250 to about 190, a PSV 3G down from 299 to about 215, a PSV + game and 4GB memcard for 225. Check the picture attached

Gordon_Shumway4193d ago

Could you post a link to this "sales boost"? I couldn't find anything about it.

FunAndGun4193d ago

The addition of Plus to Vita has gotten me to purchase a Vita on Black Friday.

So far the Toys R Us deal seems to be the best I have found.

"Sony Vita Call of Duty Bundle with free 10-in-1 PS Vita Essential Pack $199.99"

crinale4193d ago (Edited 4193d ago )

Sony has invested A LOT into PSP. They still have to make more money from it, before they are finally done with it.
Sony also knows the schedule of (rather small) Japanese third party devs who are still working on PSP projects. I think Sony isn't really going to start pushing Vita until Q2 of 2013, at the earliest.

They even told Kenji Inafune (working on Soul Sacrifice) to continue polishing the game, when he reported to SCEJ that he actually could release the game in this Winter.

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Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures

"The sudden closure of several video-game studios at Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox division was the result of a widespread cost-cutting initiative that still isn’t finished.

This week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said.

Game Pass has not seen the massive growth that Xbox boss Phil Spencer may have been hoping for."

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just_looken12h ago

Sense it seems very few remember that human's were around before 2020 the next studio to close will be bethesda based no doubt on the history of.

Fallout 76
Elder scrolls online
elder scrolls blades mobile
fallout mobile
The vr versions of old games

Then you got starfield pissing out cash nothing to cover it.

I doubt tod's team or any sub team is making m$ cash they are no doubt on the chopping block for job cuts

If you can remember before 2020 even fallout 76 was made with over 4 studios.

-Foxtrot14h ago

"Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said"

So what you're saying is...you bought all these studios and you guys can't run them.

Jesus.

Inverno13h ago

Spread thin after firing over 2000 employees a few months prior. So basically they created the problem and their solution was to just fire more people. Absolute geniuses over at Xbox, of course can we even believe this to be the reason for the closures?

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Profchaos12h ago

Leaders can't run them hire more management create new roles don't shutter entire studios cause you can't figure out how to run them.

Unless the reality is this whole consolidation thing was really an excuse for IP harvesting

anast2h ago

He's lying. They are doing it for the shareholders.

Eonjay14h ago

Reports are suggesting that Game Pass will be getting a price hike soon and that Call of Duty may not be added to the day one offering. I honestly have a hard time believing this but it does beg the question why exactly did GP fail? I think the answer is that it just didn't get the growth that it anticipated. Jim was right but I wish he wasn't because at the end of the day, its gamers, devs and other front-line workers who have to absorb the blow for Spencer and team's miscalculations.

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NotoriousWhiz13h ago

And out of the ashes something even better than Xbox will be born.

Eonjay13h ago

Honestly as long as is not a situation where the industry has to contract in order focus wealth on a few people who are already trillionaires..

Barlos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It's already here and it was born before Xbox was even a thing. It's called PlayStation.

Tacoboto11h ago

I think 2022 killed the Series X.

2021 was a good year for Xbox though and maybe the best in a long long time, hardware and software and as a publisher. Halo Infinite launched to popularity, Forza Horizon 5 blew everyone away, Psychonauts 2 was so well received, Flight Simulator on console, Deathloop even on PS5 & PC.

But they followed that up with next to nothing. Then 2023 with Redfall, a disappointing Forza, Starfield, and 2024 leads with closures and layoffs. And some tweets reminding us Hellblade is days away.

The only disappointment with the PS5 is not enough Sony games. Xbox followed up no games with disappointing ones.

Scissorman13h ago

For all the armchair executives who were calling for Sony to release its big-budget AAA games on PS+, the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation. Game Pass has killed Xbox. Congrats.

shinoff218313h ago

There's not many of of us clamoring for Sony to do this because most of us understand it would kill Playstation. I'm sure there's a few but I've not seen alot of it myself.

porkChop1h ago

"the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation"

But the same thing *has* been happening at PS. They've closed, what, 3 or 4 studios so far this gen? Laid off plenty of staff, restructured studios, etc.

BehindTheRows31m ago(Edited 27m ago)

PlayStation isn’t struggling. Xbox is. That’s the difference.

Sony also didn’t buy out multiple publishers with LOTS of studios and leave them in a state of uncertainty.

So, he’s absolutely right that Sony not following Game Pass in its entirety was smart as this very thing could have happened. Name a team, like Tango, who wasn’t struggling (like Tango) that Sony closed. Every closure was because of a studio who wasn’t pulling their weight.

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The Nordic Game 2024 (NG24) Spring conference is to host more than 150 speakers

"While the 20 year anniversary edition of Nordic Game, NG24 Spring's homepage on 21-24 May in Malmö, Sweden, is getting closer, the organizers announced that more than 150 speakers are now lined up for the show." - Nordic Game.

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I Miss When Games Came In Full Package Rather Than Broken Mess Filled With Microtransactions

The gaming industry has drifted away from offering full-fledged games to putting unfinished titles that are jam-packed with microtransactions on the market.

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Christopher2d ago

It's not the fault of the gaming industry. Gamers were told what was happening, were warned about where this would lead, did nothing, and now are acting like it's the fault of publishers that they kept buying these games and investing in MTX. If only those gamers at that time felt as strongly about these things as they do Helldivers 2.

Hugodastrevas2d ago

I don't think MTX target the common gamer but instead predate on the so called "whales". It's gambling pure and simple.

Christopher2d ago

Oh, so it's okay to buy MTX-laden games as long as you don't spend money on MTX, which has led to even more MTX-laden games with even more predatory practices where content that used to be unlocked is now behind paywalls?

C'mon now people. You gave the corporations and inch, and they kept taking and taking. Community members told people that investing in these things alone would only lead to more and more MTX and putting more and more behind paywalls. But it's only the fault of the corporations, not the people who kept supporting it with purchases as more and more was taken away?

Hugodastrevas2d ago

@Christopher that's a straw man, I didn't say any of that I just added context.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Well exactly

People stand up for something which seems small to them and they get called whiners or negative. Then years later the shit hits the fan and they all go “why is this happening?” Like they are innocent.

The issue aswell is younger gamers who grew up with all this thinking it’s normal and we all just look like old farts yelling at clouds when we’re trying to help us all, even them.

Crows901d 22h ago

Who woulda thought that listening to your elders could be a good idea...too late now

Hofstaderman1d 21h ago

It all started with that damn horse armour. Back then I thought nobody was stupid to buy into that crap. How wrong I was....

CrimsonWing691d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I like how people move the goal-post. First it’s, f*ck any game with MTX’s, f*ck GaaS games, f*ck this game with “optional” MTX’s (Dragon’s Dogma 2), Helldivers 2 is ok because it’s fun and even though it has Battle Passes or Season Passes and MTX’s it’s ok because… you don’t need to buy them? 🤷‍♂️

HellDivers 2 is the best selling game this year. Just think about that, games like FF7 Rebirth sold poorly, but a continuous game that lives off recurring revenue sells extraordinarily well. Then we’ll hear everyone b*tch about a GaaS future.

I really wonder what this industry would’ve been like if we never gave into this crap, and yes I’m saying “WE” since I’m guilty of it, but man it’s literally no closing the door once it’s been opened.

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Hugodastrevas2d ago

This is what amazed me the most when playing hours upon hours of stellar Blade version 1.00.00 no bugs, no crashes, no sudden drops in frames, no screen tear, no falling from the world, just a complete package on a game under 50GB.
I think Korea will play a major role in gaming in the long run , because they're releasing banger after banger.

isarai2d ago

Still pretty common to find if you stay away from the AAA publishers, in the last 10yrs ive probably only bought like 3 games combined from EA/ACTIVISION/UBISOFT. Even now i still buy games that work right out the box perfectly fine. Just recently got like 6hrs into Alone in the Dark, and not a single sign of any of that bs, really enjoying my time with it.

shinoff21832d ago

There's such a misconception about every game needing a patch,this and that when in reality it's not even close. You nailed it isarai

Crows901d 22h ago

It's really only AAA devs and publishers that seem to have these constant problems

z2g1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

And we as gamers have to accept our role in that. Constantly never being satisfied. Constantly demanding more while paying less. Constantly demanding better frame rates, better graphics, more modes and faster faster faster…. Then review bombing the product when a demand isn’t met. Meanwhile those same demands are making games more difficult, complex and more expensive to create than ever before, on shrinking timelines that burn out employees and make their lives miserable.

You wanna know why so many games get delayed? Cuz the original release dates weren’t realistic to begin with, but you can’t tell a gamer their game is further away than they want to hear. Some dev or game designer will be threatened physically. That builds even more pressure and rushing. We are officially squeezing water out of rocks and still complaining about that how hard you have to squeeze the rock be just waiting for rain. Most of the time we take it out on the developing studio, when it’s the publisher making the calls.

All you need to do is read the comments on most websites and social media to see how toxic, entitled and petty the gaming community at large is, and realize how that transforms into impossible expectations on the parts of game makers.

Crows901d 22h ago

Nope. Some gamers are to blame. Never demanded anything you mentioned.

A fully finished and functioning product is a standard. It's not demanded. If someone sells you a tv that only works 60% of the time are you going to recommend it OR write a review calling out the obvious problem...it's not a demand...it's a standard.

A standard triple A publishers can't seem to hit consistently.

thorstein1d 20h ago

You've never heard of planned obsolescence.

HankHill1d 18h ago

I take it you like microtransactions? 🤣

Kinza550121d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

This is one battle that gamers have never won, hahaha. They were parading recently for their "win" against Sony. Where's the energy for this one, guys? LMAO!

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