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Consumers Will Decide on PlayStation 4 - Sony

IB Times: The next-generation PlayStation 4 is a long way off and the PlayStation 3 is here to stay, according to Sony UK Vice President Fergal Gara, adding that consumers will decide when a new console is needed.

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Gazondaily4181d ago

Yes, the consumers will decide and I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of them have decided that they are ready for the Playstation 4.

And I don't think they are concerned with:

"...continuing to innovate with the PS3, making it smaller, lighter and offering better value entry-point consoles. There's been a big engineering push in Tokyo to give it a facelift and a spec revitalization, too, so that's good to see"

Unless of course Gara isn't referring to already established consumers of the PS3 and merely late adopters, in which case, he is wrong- the current owners of the PS3 should be the ones that will decide on the Playstation 4.

kagon014181d ago

I'm one of those who got the console early and I'm not satisfied with this gen at all, with all the bs going on in the gaming industry.

The next gen will be far worse than this one I assure you that...

decrypt4181d ago

"...continuing to innovate with the PS3, making it smaller, lighter and offering better value entry-point consoles. There's been a big engineering push in Tokyo to give it a facelift and a spec revitalization, too, so that's good to see"

But its essentially just as powerful as the original PS3 :P

The situation is so bad smartphones are on the verge of challenging it. Hell they already have over taken it in the Ram department lol. Yet they still want to wait on the consumer to decide rofl.

Anyone not wanting to be stuck with half a decade old tech already built themselves a PC.

CommonSenseGamer4181d ago

@decrypt: Add tablets to that as well. this time next year we'll see tegra 4 devices hit the mobile/tablet scene and I have yo say they look impressive. 48 core GPUs!

Persistantthug4181d ago (Edited 4181d ago )

For PS4, I'm pushing for a holiday 2014 launch....that way we can get good tech instead of underpowered hardware that's in the Wii U.

That's no troll, I'm telling the truth in how I feel and why.

http://www.youtube.com/watc... <----- THIS IS WHAT NEXT GEN SHOULD LOOK LIKE. I want this type of look in my gameplay rendered at 1080p @ 60 frames.....that's what NEXT GEN should look like. So if I have to wait until holiday 2014 or later to get awesomeness like this.....then I'll wait.

jetlian4181d ago (Edited 4181d ago )

well thats not happening even in 2014! More important it wouldnt be at 1080p or 60 frames!

Based on your 2009 ps3 your not a hardcore gamer. I want ps4 now!

Persistantthug4181d ago (Edited 4181d ago )

Do you even know what the term "HARDCORE" means? It seems like you bastardized the term to something unrecognizable.

At any rate, from what I understand, 3 terraflops of total output is what it will take to render that Agni's Philosophy tech demo.
An AMD 7970 renders 3.7 Teraflops now for approx $400
By 2014, We can MOST DEFINITELY get that, sir.

You see....I've researched this, as I'm a forum member of the BEYOND3D forums, jetlian....That's how "hardcore" I am, whatever in the heck that means.

Perhaps you might do some research for yourself.

Take care.

jetlian4181d ago (Edited 4181d ago )

lol rendering cutscenes and actual gameplay are two totally different things. PS3 has a 2 teraflop output and its not even close to 20 percent that agni video.

So what you "UNDERSTAND" isnt reality. If all it cost is 400 dollars why isnt there any pc games running that right now? You dont know what your talking about

You could have 46 games but they all could be lowest of the low. Who waits 2+ years to get active in a gen if they are hardcore. My friend waited and he plays hardcore games but he isnt a hardcore gamer.

I have over 200 games this gen not including live/psn

Exoil4181d ago

@jetlian:

Your E-penis must be very big! And super hardcore!
Congrats to you!

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TheTwelve4181d ago

<---- consumer who has decided he's buying a PS4

MrDead4181d ago

I would like it for next Christmas please Mr Vice President

-MD-4181d ago

I decided a new console was needed so I built a gaming computer. Crazy how that works.

Sokol4181d ago

In all honesty, I have had my PS3 since Feb. 2008 and I really wouldn't mind another 2-3 years out of it. Last of Us, God of War: Ascension, Beyond, Ni No Kuni (first party alone) is more then superb line up for me.

I believe we could see similar games offered for the next 2 years.

There is only so far graphics can go. Good quality games are another story and for that alone, PS3 is sufficient.

Hellsvacancy4181d ago

Ive had mine for 6 years atleast, im ready for the PS4, illbuy one at launch, depending on what games there is, BF4 will be enough

Blankman854181d ago

Ni No Kuni isn't first party though. Just sharing.

GreenRanger4181d ago

"The next-generation PlayStation 4 is a long way off and the PlayStation 3 is here to stay"
I hate PR talk.
Everyone knows that the PS4 has been in development for years.

CommonSenseGamer4181d ago

Yes, but saying that will kill sales this Xmas for the PS3 and possibly the Vita.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers22h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken9h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g18h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing18h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H918h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola14h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66917h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle17h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 10h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 9h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 5h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6920d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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