God D*** am I surly!!!!
CRank: 5Score: 134840

My god... it's just a review!

I think you all need to take a step back for a minute. Stop, breathe through the nose, and exhale out the mouth. And do it slowly.... slowly.... Good. Now let's talk.

I especially want to talk to everyone getting all bent out of shape about the current Halo 4 reviews. Or as I've seen, anyone who doesn't give the game the glowing review they feel it deserves. Now because of this, we actually have people who are calling the very idea of game reviews themselves into question. What I want to know is why now, and why Halo 4?

Look, you're gonna have to get over yourselves. People like different things. What I consider good may not be seen in the same positive point of view as others. Hell, I don't care about the game myself, but why should my opinion matter to you? I don't have to like the same things you do.That's a fact of life. But it doesn't end with one opinion that differs from yours. There's a broad *** **** spectrum of opinions out there. There's that word again, opinion, but we'll get back to that in a second. They're not going to all be the same. And if someone points out significant flaws, they may very well be able to justify a lower score. But that's the key word... IF. Now if they're all, "Halo 4 sucks 'cause I say it sucks..." then yeah. Feel free to disregard them. After all, criticism without validation isn't really worth consideration anyway. But the same can be said about positive praise. It goes both ways.

Lastly, reviews shouldn't be the last word on games. Look at them the way I do. Insightful(sometimes) opinions backed up with examples of why the reviewer liked or disliked the games. The key word is opinion. You don't have to like or dislike the same things they do. Coincidentally, if a reviewer is pretty much spot on with his opinions of games in your eye, then by all means listen to them. But don't jump all over them just because they don't like something you love. And don't jump on a bandwagon just because everybody else does. Just remember, good reviews or bad, in the end YOU'RE buying the game. And no matter what anyone else says, it's you who decides if the game is worth it.

... what, the pic of Jeff? Just adding a bit of sexay to the post. Problem? Explain in a review...

dedicatedtogamers4187d ago

Um, the problem isn't just the score. It isn't just that it's someone's "opinion" (even though they are PAID to give an above-average "opinion", at least we would hope).

It's that reviews seem to deliberately omit problems with a game, and/or they deliberately omit good things about a game, and/or they deliberately judge Game A harshly on a certain aspect when a few months earlier they gave Game B a free pass on the very same thing. You may call it an "opinion", but there is a long and dirty history of these so-called "opinions" being used by journalists to unfairly bash a game, or to inaccurately praise a game. It's why people are getting sick of reviews: there isn't a scrap of integrity. An opinion (a paid opinion, at that) isn't worth a dime if there's no integrity in it, and saying "it's just their opinion" is no excuse.

It's not nitpicking. It's not whining. It's not "letting someone have their own opinion". It's a matter of the journalism in this industry being a crock of **** and gamers would ENJOY being accurately and fairly informed as to the value of a certain game.

Enigma_20994187d ago

Feeling this way shows you're putting to much stock in the review. in truth, you don't have to listen to a d*** thing the reviewer says. If you like the game, play it, and to hell with what they say about it. Stop worrying about what everybody's saying about it.

An opinion is exactly what it is. if you follow it like a religion, you have no one to blame but yourself. I play plenty of games that aren't considered popular. Because I choose to, not because they tell me to. But I also have reviewers whose opinions I do tend to trust.

My advice to you? Stop reading so many reviews, and just play what you want to play. Stop getting so worked up over nothing.

dedicatedtogamers4187d ago

That's the thing: I barely read any reviews, and I don't worry much (if at all) about review scores.

My gripe with reviews is that - if journalists would actually be journalists - reviews could be a useful tool for gamers to use, instead of a useful tool for advertisers to use. I'd LIKE it if I could trust reviews again. Personally, THAT is why I get frustrated by reviews.

darthv724186d ago

truth be told. It isnt just now and it isnt just Halo 4. this has been a trend since this 'particular' console generation really got started.

You will have those that thoroughly enjoy games and will review them based on particular merits. But what we have been seeing is an ever growing population of reviewers that specifically target high profile games to simply try and ruin them.

It happened with uncharted, GTA, GT5, Forza, Gears, GoW...the list goes on. Its as if those who seek nothing more than to try and ruin it for others have nothing better to do. Is it spite? Is it jealousy? Is it because they just want to to piss others off and get a reaction?

The answer could be an number of things but it happens. I have always said reviews are opinions which is only partially right. There is an opinionated tone that takes shape during a review but the general nature of a 'game' review is to review the assets.

Such as sound quality, frame rate, graphics, load times. The things that every gamer will experience when they play the same game. sometime there are comparative involved which really should be left to the end. As is such the "personal" view (or opinion) of the game should also be at the end.

That way the reader is reading the comprehensive portion of the review and can formulate their own conclusion before reading the last part of the reviewers individual POV. That WAS how reviews used to be. Now it became more about pissing off the other guy or giving it so much praise that it sickens the other guy to make them want to write up a negative retort.

That is all we see on this site day in and day out. A post about something being positive shortly followed by a post of why that positive is really a negative. You see the pattern?

admiralvic4186d ago

Sadly I think you're running off one of the biggest fallacies people have with game reviews. That is to say, people generalize the site as reviewing A and B, but usually overlook who wrote the reviews.

I hardly think it matters if John C says inFamous is an awful open world game with virtually no story and weak combat, then Jimmy Q says Prototype has everything you love in the genre. They both might write for the same site, which means people will just generalize it as "ew IGN gave inFAMOUS a low score, but praised Prototype for the same thing", though it really lacks relevance.

In the end this is just more proof of people fighting for the stupidest ****** ******* things in the world. There is no standardized way of scoring things, but some people act like points should come and go on whims. Take Mass Effect 3, okay the ending sucks... so people act like the game should lose 4+ points for the ending of the game. A scene that is no more than 10 minutes and really is just something you disagree with deserves to knock the game down SEVERAL points? You might think this is silly, but go read the articles back when ME 3 released. The problem is, you have this paradoxical idea of how reviews should be done. Not everyone is going to care as much as you, not everything thinks the same way as you and not everyone thinks Money + Series = 10/10, but thats all these posts ever prove.

You can disagree with the "ill-informed" reviews all you want, but at least do more than complain about what others do. You think they're wrong, list reasons not stupid allegations against a group. You don't like their reviews, vote down the articles on N4G (then they won't appear here anymore). You want it to stop, DON'T GIVE THEM THE TIME OF DAY. God, it's not rocket science.

caseh4186d ago

The mistake most people make is taking just the score and not whats been said about the game. I tend to trust Gametrailers video reviews, more often than not whats been said about the game and the score it gets don't always tally up. They gave Binary Domain a 6.8/10 but learning that the Yakuza creator had a hand in it peaked my interest to go out and buy it. Turns out to be one of the best games i've played this gen, I can see where they were coming from on many points in the review but different people have a higher level of tolerance for certain aspects of games.

What i'm not really understanding in this gen of consoles is the vast gap in scores for releases of certain games and their sequels.

RE5 was generally well received with good scores, then RE6 comes about and gets beaten to death for stepping away from the concept of the original games. Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't RE5 do that first? Its almost like reviewers said 'Capcom...we'll let you get away with this for RE5 because you're Capcom and we love you but don't do it again'. The inevitable sequel comes about and you know what happens next.

Seeing a score for 9/10 for one game then a 4/10 for the sequel which improves on the previous game is suspect at best. As long as you're intelligent enough to find multiple sources crap reviews are easily spotted. Its just a shame that most people give these dodgy reviews undeserved attention by screaming about it on every forum they can find.

mechlord4186d ago

Yeah...when people think so little about themselves and their opinion to get worked up about these trifling issues....

You know how the sentence ends. The point is, reviews are these days a form of advertisement. If you put that in your head and trust yourself a little more, these reviews wont bother you.

I play demos when the game has one, i try to watch gameplay videos (the ones that try to be unspoilerific as possible) even if that means not buying on day one.

Ive bought and enjoyed shitty-rated games, bought and hated high-rated games.

Bottom line, think for yourself for one instead of giving that decision to someone else.

Heavenly King4186d ago

Reviews drive sales. Bad reviews = Bad sales.

I will stop getting annoyed by bad reviews, when 100% gamers make an opinion for themselves and dont care about reviews.

But sadly that wont happen soon enough, so I will continue to get pissed at bad scores on reviews because, there are times I want a game to get a sequel, because for me that game is great, but because of bad reviews it gets crappy sales (people wont be even bothered to try it for themselves), and the publishers will ditch the possibility of continuing the franchise.

Example:

God Hand = Great game => shitty reviews => shitty sales => no sequel.

Shadow of the Damned = Great Game => mediocre reviews => mediocre sales => no publisher wants to touch the franchise => no sequel.

Enigma_20994186d ago

There's a beautiful Adam Sessler rant on YouTube that explains this very idea.

admiralvic4186d ago

This is true for some things, but I also believe this to be an excuse too. Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City got poor review scores across the board, still sold pretty well all things considered. Orgarhythm scored pretty good scores across the board, Yourgamercard lists only 200 people that played it, which also includes the Japanese version of the game and for a game that got so many high scores... only 13 people are listed as getting all the complete trophies and of this only 6 have the normal mode clear trophy.

While you can certainly make this claim for some titles, plenty of games fail for other reasons. Lack of marketing, poor reviews, lack of interest, but it doesn't start / end with people giving things high or low scores.

DFresh4186d ago

I never look at the score.
All I do is look at the pros & cons in a game review and decide based on that if I want that game or not.
Most of the time the games I do buy are from developers I'm a fan of their work but if it's a game I'm not sure about I look for the following things I just mentioned.
People take gaming which is a hobby way too seriously.
At the end of the day business comes before pleasure.

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Fallout 4's 'next gen' update is over 14 gigs, breaks modded saves, & doesn't change much at all

We were expecting problems with mod support, but there are a lot of other issues.

isarai7h ago

Wow what the actual hell 🤣🤣🤣

just_looken7h ago

This is why you get the GOG version on gog you can select the version of the game to download.

On pc fallout 4 fallout new vegas and skyrim are all broken on steam because they all got the same "next gen" update.

Skyrim dec 2023
https://www.pcgamer.com/sky...

Can not find new vegas but anyone that modded it knows the script extender there was also broken

Valkyrye5h ago

Not accidental, they want modders to stop modding their older games to force them to mod Shitfield.

just_looken4h ago

There doing the same on starfield with a mods store and blocking mods

There goal is like blizzard and what they did with fallout 76 you make mods they can sell and you become a slave.

On skyrim they have "trusted" mod devs now basically a badge that lets your mod on the store you get a crumb of the sale when someone buys it.

Inverno2h ago

lol to the disagrees, the last Skyrim update broke mods too. They've been trying to kill mods to monetize them in creation club for years, it's not a stretch that they purposely put out patches just to break free mods.

porkChop1h ago

The disagrees are from people who have common sense. They aren't trying to kill mods. Most mods for any game will break with a new update because they rely on files/code that have been changed. This isn't new. Even with Bethesda this would happen way before the creation club. Mod support is literally one of the things that got Bethesda to where they are, and they're one of the only devs that releases comprehensive mod tools for each of their games.

Chocoburger1h ago

Over 14 GBs and doesn't change much at all? What? Taking up that much drive space for a pathetic 'remastering' is shameful.

Par for Bethesda.

Aussiesummer49m ago

It's not a remaster, it's a next gen update.

badz14926m ago

LOL people are actually expecting massive improvements or something? From Bethesda?? the same people who released Skyrim multiple times and the all look like shit? THAT Bethesda? are people for real?

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein6h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno2h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k41h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson43m ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu1h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson45m ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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Gears of War Voice Actor Hints At New Game Announcement Coming In June

A voice actor from The Coalition's third-person shooter series, Gears of War, has hinted at a new game announcement coming in June.

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Ra303058m ago

Hopefully Microsoft will go back to the original story line and get away from that woke nonsense from the last Gears game Gears of Woke! But were talking about Microsoft so all the betting money is on more of the same woke nonsense.