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G4 Canceling X-Play, Attack of the Show. Gaming Programming Nixed, Source Says

Kotaku:G4—the network once known as the go-to destination for video game-friendly programming—is ending its gaming programming. The network is informing its employees in meetings today.

nrvalleytime4215d ago

and good luck to everyone who might lose their jobs because of the news.

MAJ0R4215d ago

Hopefully they will find jobs at real gaming places. Tech TV was the original channel before it became G4TV and was bought out by people who only care about money. Definitely sucks...

darthv724215d ago

ZDTV or TechTV before it merged to become G4.

Personaly, after the merge is when i felt things went downhill. I understand the difference in generations that watch the various programs but the attitudes on programs like AOTS was very unprofessional as compared to a show like ScreenSavers.

I liked X-Play but you just started seeing more and more commercials and less of the actual show content. When they did away with Icons was a big loss for me anyway.

You never like to read about people losing their jobs but their drastic changes in programing and the lack of professionalism is what hurt them.

EVILDEAD3604215d ago

Gamers didnt support those shows anyways. There is no unity in gaming anymore. If there was ever an article about that station it was always negative responses that ruled the day.

It was inevitable that the ratings would plummet. Because the average gamer never knew when to actually catch the shows the liked. It was always repeats of 'Ninja' etc. As a whole gaming is divisive. No one even cared about Adam until he left. People whined about Kevin until he left. Everyone whined about the females on there as well.

Name a gaming site on the internet and it's the same thing. It's crazy that not ONE show or ONE format could last in this day and age for gaming.

Which was telling when MS and the industry went with Spike over G4 for many of the big events..namely the VGAs and E3 for MS.

Always thought it was a great concept as a channel. Too bad there was never enough content to make G4 must watch television all the time.

Evil

scotchmouth4215d ago

They probably need more time slots for episodes of cops

pixelsword4215d ago

I didn't like those shows, watched them for a little while, but stopped.

Blacktric4215d ago

G4 will only air Mountain Dew, Doritos, Halo and Call Of Duty commercials from now on.

darthv724215d ago

yeah the concept was good. Although I think what happened was the attempt to be young and hip with the new G4 was the turn off for many. The immature antics were detracting from the seriousness of the content. Or at least the attempt to be serious when it came to guests that were on to discuss new projects.

I liked the old ZDTV/TechTV. AudioFile, Icons, ScreenSavers and the early Xplay where they showed more gameplay instead of trying to be sarcastic (oops, not trying, they were).

It was like, management came to adam and morgan and said they needed to up their rudness and sarcasm levels.

The addition of non gaming or tech related programming didnt help. Although, i did enjoy ninja warrior once in a while.

JoySticksFTW4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

"They probably need more time slots for episodes of cops"

Don't forget Cheaters

Aw, HufandPuf down below beat me to it :)

But I used to love Icons and Portal

Persistantthug4215d ago

I never really hear any real complaints about them.

greenpowerz4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

G4TV shows died because they didn't pay attention to the change in gamer pop culture.

Nerds, gamers and techies have changed and adults(hosts) acting like loser kids from the 90's turned people off.

Nerds, gamers and techies are much more mainstream as being smart has become the new cool and or norm vs (nerdom)

Their behaviour is patronizing to people watching.

Too many ways of getting the info/news/opinions from alternate sources to keep slapstick shows alive. The shows never matured/grew-up.

The slow down in game releases is effecting things as well.

Their style is a relic of the past and doesnt really fit today's audience. Nerds/gamers/techies go to the gym, go clubing, go on dates, and are metro sexual now and have blended into the mainstreme.

Nerds/gamers/techies have moved towards the mainstreme and the mainstreme has moved towards the demos mentioned above.

SilentNegotiator4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

@EvilDead

Actually, no one supported it because it sucked.
They were out of touch.

Not because of a lack of unity of gamers.

zeeshan4215d ago

COPS/CHEATERS TV it is then. Oh and lets not forget LOST/HEROES re-runs. Wow! This is like the END of G4TV isn't it? At least to us gamers!

One good thing that I can see coming out of this is at least I won't have to watch and listen to Sara Underwood! I mean, that woman is soooo annoying!

Dee_914214d ago

well g4tv been dead to me since dtv and g4 couldnt come to an agreement.i guess all we have now is my avy.... goodtimes

subtenko4214d ago

Shoulda never changed from G4 Tech Tv. They were at their prime back then with shows like Judgement day, the humor added was somewhat like a Mega64-esq feel. They had really interesting people there who are all doing different things now.

People like Chris Pirillo, so many funny and awesome moments,lol. Plus it was back in the 90's right? The 90's were a one of a kind time no doubt.

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Arcanine4215d ago

Thats that's what you get for putting on stupid police shows

SilentNegotiator4215d ago

....and hello 24/7 Cops and Cheaters network.

gintoki7774215d ago

don't understand how one can watch - _ -

Blasphemy4215d ago

Called it! I said this when Kevin Pereira left that the show would be cancelled soon. That guy was Attack of the show without him what do you have?

MEsoJD4215d ago

G4 and tech tv have been dead for a long time.

Syntax-Error4215d ago

Everyone blaming the programming, the shows, the hosts, the gaming community and YOU'RE ALL WRONG! I knew this was happening back in April because my sister in law works as the wardrobe designer for AOTS and X-PLAY. Morgan Webb was even at her wedding. I asked her about Sessler leaving and she said they didnt renew his contract because they are changing the entire channel. They have a new CEO and he doesn't like the format. He wants a more Lifestyle type channel instead. He said that station isn't making money in it's current format and he doesn't want to continue any of the programming. He's starting from scratch. Quit speculating because only one person can change an entire station and drop it's top rated shows.

BELIE7ER4215d ago

The infomation you gave was helpful but the insult was not.

TheDivine4215d ago

The problem isnt that gaming and tech shows cant have an audience its that their shows suck/sucked. I want real previews, good reviews not by immature fake gamers who are 40ish and act 12. Show cool tech stuff, movie news, exc. Cops, cheaters, campus pd, and ninja crap isnt going to get ratings. Theirs a huge audience of people like us they just went after the 12 year olds instead. Show the history of gaming, go back and do a full hour on why FF rocks or just on how FF7 made a huge impact. show hidden gems like Okami and interview the developers. That indy game movie did well and g4 could have also but one 30 minute show that gives a couple crappy reviews on popular titles without going into depth isnt what i want and i think most agree with me. AOTS is alright but it isnt done well enough and its too forced to be funny most of the time. Sucks for the employees but all the personalities will easily find work and production peeps can work on the new stuff hopefully. It does need to change as its a dead fish right now, anythings better imo.

Dee_914214d ago

lmao... i like how he said every one is wrong and blaiming the wrong thing then go on to blaim basically the same thing he said wasnt to blaim.
obvious tween is obvious

Flewid6384214d ago

The information you gave sounds like what everyone has already been saying on this thread.

The shows aren't good, so the CEO is changing them.

What are you telling us that hasn't been already said?

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DeadlyFire4215d ago

I never expected GTTV to outpace G4TV. Wow.

So they will be renaming that channel to Japanese game show TV soon right?

gintoki7774214d ago

I rather watch Japanese game shows than Cops and cheaters

synce4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

RIP? G4 died many years ago

Wagz224214d ago

G4TV has unfortunately been life support for a while.

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nrvalleytime4215d ago

Sad day. I used to really enjoy watching those shows - hope that everyone involved lands safely in other jobs.

Xenial4215d ago

G4 was dying anyway; after Adam Sessler & Kevin Preira left, it went down-hill.

marioPSUC4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

Its been dying since they re-branded it G4tv and took away so many of their good shows except for AOTS and Xplay, the deathblow was when Kevin and Adam left.

Silly Mammo4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

So is G4 going to just be a network of reality show reruns? Not exactly gripping television

lashes2ashes4215d ago

No worse. It is being rebranded to be like spike tv, this macho men tv shit is so stupid luckily girls know all men are not like what spike tv thinks we are. The rumor is they are going to partner with maxim or esquire and call it Gmen tv.

attilayavuzer4215d ago

That whole macho, Spike TV, man-cave thing went out of style in 2010.

Eldyraen4215d ago (Edited 4215d ago )

Agreed. If that last part is true though its just sad.

pixelsword4215d ago

With the words "man-cave" being thrown around, I wonder what the "G" in "Gmen TV" stands for.

BlackPrince 424215d ago

It's supposed to merge with Esquire magazine or something and become a men's TV network.

It's going to be called G4Men.

camel_toad4215d ago

G4TV is going to be renamed COPS.

AzaziL4214d ago (Edited 4214d ago )

That's all TV has become, every single channel is being filled with Reality garbage, even the educational channels have become nothing more than watching pawn shops, people driving trucks, and honey boo boo.

It's a disgrace and it all feels like it's being shoved down our collective throats. I honestly wouldn't order cable tv if I moved on my own, it's a complete waste of money.

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3-4-54215d ago

Kevin knew. And so it finally happens.

oONinjavitiSOo4215d ago

You are correct. He was even talking about it somewhat on "The Joe Rogan experience" podcast.

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Former Dragon Age lead writer David Gaider pours scorn on EA's AI dreams.

"They want you to believe the devs under them are super stoked to work generative AI into their processes," continued Gaider, "but I assure you what they took as excitement was really a veiled wail of despair not unlike the time that team was informed of their new 'really cool' live service mandate.".

LordoftheCritics1d 12h ago

Publishers see gaming as another stock market.

isarai1d 11h ago

I think anyone with some common sense knew this, im glad i don't support their games anymore, what a sh!t company.

Psychonaut8520h ago

Friends don’t let friends buy EA or Ubisoft.

Chocoburger19h ago

I said this yesterday. AI isn't what we want when it comes to crafting artistry. Alas, these soulless corporate morons don't care about their work, only about cutting corners as much as possible.

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Phil Spencer and the Battle for Xbox’s Soul

Has the rapid growth of Xbox made the ship too heavy? Following the closures of Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, and Roundhouse, we explore what the future of Xbox could look like.

LG_Fox_Brazil1d 17h ago

This ship was never meant to sail, this ship was made from the get go to sink as fast as possible. It almost feels that they want to lower the standards of quality in the industry so that they can fit in

rlow122h ago

I disagree, Xbox from the get go innovated and changed the industry. They did a lot of firsts and standardized a lot of others. It wasn’t till the beginning of the Xbox1 era that things started to go south.

Stevonidas18h ago

Yep, although I’d argue it started going to shit when they tried to hock Kinect on their audience instead of continuing to invest in their studios and IPs. 2001-2010 Xbox was peak gaming, though.

rlow117h ago

@Stevonidas
I agree they never should have focused on it after the 360 era. But you do have to remember they were faked out by the huge volumes of Kinects sold. To quote info on Wikipedia, “Project Natal, It was first released on November 4, 2010, and would go on to sell eight million units in its first 60 days of availability.” So if your Xbox and see these huge sales on a peripheral where are you going to put some money? Criticism in hindsight is worthless…..if only we could all see our future. In other wards they had no way of knowing. Plus they had engagement numbers and a lot of signs pointed to people wanting it.

Their biggest mistake wasn’t the Kinect, but unlike Sony after the PS3 debacle. They didn’t double on down on exclusive good games. The other huge mistake was letting Call of Duty go to Sony.

Hedstrom1d 1h ago

Phil wants Xbox to be as soulless as him!

Tacoboto1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Xbox has no soul and Phil has no confidence, and it's impossible to say either do when they killed Tango and Arkane Austin.

Everything they've said since has only made them look worse to a point that they're actually less competent than Embracer.

Markdn1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Whe you release something like the series S and expect it not to hurt your business model, and developers have to have parity with games. Then you know Microsoft don't care. Series s is the final nail that broke developers,

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Sarah Bond dodges questions on Xbox studio closures

While on stage with Dina Bass at The Bloomberg Technology Summit the President of Xbox, Sarah Bond, was asked about the Xbox studio closures of Arkane Austin, Tango Gameworks, Alpha Dog, and Roundhouse Studios

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ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Of course she did. She's part of the problem and will just tow the company line.

VenomUK2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bloomberg’s Dina Bass could barely read her scripted question without looking at her notes, whilst Sarah Bond who WAS expecting the question spoke without saying anything of substance or answering the question in any meaningful way. Clearly she’s had the same expert PR training as Phil, but this avoidance was disrespectful. In time the short-sighted decision to shut down Tango Gameworks will be seen as of the most notorious examples why Phil Spencer messed up his tenure in charge of Xbox. That’s a fully built out talented team that could’ve been put to work on any project.

Additionally, Phil Spencer should not be using Sarah Bond as a patsy for his mistakes- he should be answering that question.

gleepot2d ago

I think you are all really overselling Tangos value. Hi-Fi rush was a lot of fun. Ghostwire was incredibly dull. Evil within 1 and 2 were just okay.

lucasnooker2d ago

Evil within 2 was incredibly under rated. I thought that game was surprisingly good

NotoriousWhiz1d 23h ago

Someone else said it best. I don't think it was a Phil decision. It was most likely a Satya decision. I think Microsoft is done giving out free money to Xbox.

Cacabunga1d 20h ago

people please boycott Activision Bethesda next release and support Hellblade.
these people mus understand that they cannot treat their fans and employees that way.
scumbags.

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XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Yikes you don't help Sarah 😬 making a problem worse

Christopher2d ago

She's playing her role. There's absolutely nothing any of them can say other than the truth, this is about profit margins and not quality, so they just don't answer anything and wait for gamers to forget.

shinoff21831d 18h ago

I think news is coming of more ps5 release but they gotta be careful cause Xbox is still sitting on store shelves. They can't get left holding all that stock

Lightning771d 16h ago

Come next month they'll flash nice looking games in our faces and expecting us to forget.

The only thing that'll be going through my mind at their showcase is how many of those studios will get shut down after release.

I'm not joking around either. MS probably expects every game to be like COD and do COD numbers. What a way to destroy gaming for the entire industry because they're dumb af at being realistic in what success means for each game.

-Foxtrot1d 15h ago

Always feels she was brought in / promoted for this. Happened just before things started to be out in motion.

Phil and co have someone to throw under the bus and share the blame with

zaanan1d 19h ago

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

darthv721d 10h ago

....won't get fooled again

Hofstaderman2d ago

Like a deer caught in the headlights.....

notachance2d ago

I always wondered why xbox had multiple leaders with similar titles like Phil Spencer, Matt Booty, and Sarah Bond, like, how many heads do you actually need?

Seems to me it would be more cost efficient to cut 2 of them instead of all those studios.

DarXyde2d ago

Frankly, I suspect she is the most competent of them. I don't mean that I like her more, I mean that she's the best at articulating herself and giving the talking points MS wants to give. The others are starting to sound more like her than her sounding like any of them.

Are any of these people "responsible" for what's happening? No. This reeks of Nadella. But that being said, I don't see any of the Xbox heads stepping down in protest.

"Don't shoot the messenger", sure, but at the same time, the messengers don't seem to take umbrage with the message. Not enough to remove themselves from it, anyway.

CS71d 15h ago

I disagree. Nadella is looking for profit as a CEO should in my opinion.

The problem is Dr. Phil & Co. had 10 years to bring Xbox back on track and have been failing woefully.

Phil needs to sell to Nadella that if we are to make a profit, we need to make great games. And to do that we need employees here for the long haul and the freedom to work on creative projects.

But as Phil said himself he doesn’t believe great games sell consoles.

RpgSama1d 21h ago

Dude, 100%, forgot Major Nelson and Aaron Greenberg, like what is the point for all these suits? They have more C-level executives than games released in a generation.

This is just so they can all pass along the hot potato one at a time and in between all of them can say a lot without actually saying anything, misinformation at its finest.

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