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Wii U a game changer?

"Iwata admits Nintendo had problems communicating what Wii U was about..."

What do you think? Game changer or just more of the same?

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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

If it sells a lot yes! In the console (corporation land) world sales matter.. It doesn't matter if it's innovative. If it sells poor then no it's not a game changer. If it does the other consoles will follow. MS is kinda protecting there asses with their tablet.

Uncharted is not a game changer but call of duty was.
Though uncharted is a more innovative game. You don't see many Uncharted clones or heavy rain clones or god of war clones or mirrors edge clones.

Money comes first with on disk dlc & last with more dlc.

Marketing is really the most important thing at least in America.

May not like it but that is what is going on today. Black ops 2 coming. Think of the 3 or 4 most innovative games you can think of and add the sales together & black ops 2 will sell 10 Million more than that.

moparful994306d ago

How is uncharted not a game changer? Naughty dog brought a level of writing, polish and character acting that was unheard of before the uncharted series.. As far as uncharted clones?

Unearthed: Trail of Iibn
Tomb Raider
Star Wars 1313
Enslaved
heck even the last of us are all spiritual clones of Uncharted

Imalwaysright4306d ago

LMFAO TR is an uncharted clone?! Is that a joke? I dont know who are you trying to fool (maybe yourself) but the 1st TR game was released in 1996! If anything the clone is Uncharted and Its clear for anyone that has played both franchises that Uncharted took inspiration from TR!

PirateThom4306d ago

@Imalwaysright

No, it didn't. Play the games, they're not remotely alike apart from being about treasure hunters and temples. Tomb Raider was puzzle focused with very little shooting and Uncharted was more about the action. This was just something people said to discredit PS3 games. "Huurr, Dude Raider" "Huurrr, Goddess of War" and so on.

The fact the new Tomb Raider is no longer about a stick with a pair of beach balls but a realistic depiction of a female in an action setting makes the new Tomb Raider more like Uncharted than Uncharted was ever like Tomb Raider. The new Tomb Raider was a DIRECT response to Uncharted due to Tomb Raider games on PS2 onwards being a disaster.

Machioto4306d ago

@pirate tomb raider did focus on shooting but it was exaggerate,she had twin pistols infinite ammo an highly acrobatic while shooting.

rpd1234306d ago

Tomb Raider and Star Wars are Uncharted clones? Well Tomb Raider was released way before Uncharted existed so no to that. The plot of the games is ripped off from Tomb Raider which in turn is ripped off from Indiana Jones. The more recent game is clearly influenced by Uncharted but it's not a clone by any means.

And Star Wars 1313 is far more influenced by Mass Effect (both are by Bioware) than Uncharted.

If anything Uncharted is a clone of Tomb Raider (story material and theme) and Gears of War (gameplay).

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4306d ago (Edited 4306d ago )

"How is uncharted not a game changer? "

What is a game changer? Something that impacts the industry. Other dev care more about what call of duty is doing than uncharted.. Call of duty is the biggest influence. You mean uncharted is a game changer for you? Uncharted effected hardly any other devs in the industry because the money is not top dollar.

Uncharted is awsome though.

When I say game changer I mean change the way games are made.. And influencing the industry.

But when it comes to story my favorite will be half life 2.

Imalwaysright4306d ago

Yep TR and Uncharted focus on different areas, TR on exploration and Uncharted on shooting but the concept of both games games is nearly identicall Treasure hunting, platforming, solving puzzles, shooting... I cant remember one single aspect from TR that Uncharted doesnt have either. Its clear that Uncharted took inspiration from TR and to say otherwise is idiotic at best.

"a realistic depiction of a female in an action setting makes the new Tomb Raider more like Uncharted than Uncharted was ever like Tomb Raider" LMFAO Oh yeah because in a videogame that is oh so much more important than: concept, gameplay elements or theme. Are you kidding me? Besides dont act as if the Drake is the only realistic character in videogames.

"The new Tomb Raider was a DIRECT response to Uncharted" And how the hell do you know that? From what ive seen the new TR STILL focus more on exploration than on shooting wich is the main difference between both franchises!

moparful994306d ago

I was referencing the new tomb raider.. I have played almost every single tomb raider game released and tomb raider has always been about the exploration.. This new tomb raider has focused more on the cinematic elements and that is what uncharted is most known for.. Previous TR's portrayed laura croft as a heroine who was stronger, faster, nearly indestructible... This new one is highlighting just how fragile and human laura really is and this is exactly what naughty dog did with drake, and elena, and sully, and chloe in uncharted... I'm not saying that uncharted invented anything because it didnt rather it took elements that have existed in games for years then polished and blended them to near perfection...

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mike1up4307d ago

It's already a game-changer. Take a good look at Smart Glass, and the PS3-Vita combo.

When Nintendo wants to be, they can be great trend-setters (motion control, handheld gaming, ...not so much online, yet).

ThePsychoGamer4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

Ok, let's take a good like at the Vita-PS3 combo.... something that was announced prior to the WiiU , and is an improvement over ideas present with the connectivity between the PS3 and PSP. Yea, sorry my friend, but Nintendo did little to inspire what we have in regards to the PS3-Vita combo.

The more you know.

AO1JMM4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

"Nintendo did little to inspire what we have in regards to the PS3-Vita combo"

Nintendo Gamecube and Gameboy Advance combo?

and knowledge is power.

mike1up4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

Ok, let's take a good look at my comment... I never said that Nintendo inspired anything!

I said that Nintendo can be great trend-setters. You don't have to invent/inspire anything to be a trend-setter. Trend-setters simply make something fashionable or... trendy.

BattleAxe4307d ago

"WiiU a game changer?"....No, WiiU game over.

stuna14306d ago (Edited 4306d ago )

@ThePsychoGamer

Mate don't even waste your time! Notice the amount of disagrees you recieved by just stating facts

The truth of the matter, you have people going on about sony fanboys run this site or xbox fanboys are the worst! When in all honesty all you need do is visit their natural habitats on n4g.

Lately commenting in WII U articles, I've found that they can be just as rabbied as sony, and microsoft fanboys! There really is no distinction.

Nintendo have made great contributions to gaming as a whole, but people need to stop fooling themselves into thinking that Sony and Microsoft don't deserve recognition for their contributions.

@Mr.Mike

Technically all sony would have to do is use the feature once in order for it to be relevant! And as a owner of the PS3 & VITA, it is a functioning feature that I have personally used! Marvel vs Capcom utilizes this function.

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ThePsychoGamer4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

You also stated

"It's already a game-changer. Take a good look at Smart Glass, and the PS3-Vita combo"

So how douse the PS3-Vita combo prove the WiiU is game changer?

@AO1JMM
I said Little, not none

mike1up4307d ago (Edited 4307d ago )

I don't like to criticize systems that I don't own, but this is my honest opinion...

Sony may have announced the PS3-Vita combo, but how many games are actually using PS3-Vita connectivity? Oh and when I say using, I mean right now, not something that Sony promised a long time ago! Furthermore, how many PS3-PSP combo games were actually released? Let's give the "Sony, connectivity pioneer" act a rest, shall we?

We both know that the WiiU will sell the "dual screen" home console idea, and that's a good thing for the PS3-Vita combo. Imo Sony never advertised that feature worth a crap.

Also, the PS3-Vita combo is too expensive! Assuming the WiiU has a reasonable price, a few hundred dollars could be a game-changer for a lot of people.

moparful994306d ago

@MrMike Regardless of the fact that sony hasn't widely integrated the Vita/ps3 interoperability doesn't negate the fact that Sony hasn't been working with the idea.. Just because Nintendo is force feeding the dual screen combo through the wii u doesn't make them trendsetters.. Just like the 3ds Sony was the flag waiver of 3d but just because nintendo sold a bunch of 3ds' does that make them a trend setter in 3d technology? Nope

Godmars2904307d ago

Really have to wonder how all this "unproven potential" talk is any different from the "dead at the starting line" crap. At least in the latter case something could be said are all of the 3rd party titles from the current gen versus Zombie U.

@mr_mike:
For the little its worth, Sony was talking about console and handheld combos since PS3/PSP.

mike1up4307d ago

Again...

For the little its worth, I never said that Nintendo invented, or inspired, anything.

I said that Nintendo can be great trend-setters, and gave 2 examples.

A trend-setter is a person that sets trends.

WeskerChildReborned4307d ago

This has changed the game and in a good way. A tablet on the controller that you can use to play the game using the screen or your normal tv, that right there is a neat idea. Also you can use to surf the web and it's better that we get to interact better with the games.

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RiseNShine9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno9d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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