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Explaining Mass Effect: A Theatrical Role Playing Experience

Fairly recently I came across a Youtube user by the name of Smudboy who does through story and plot analysis on games. Currently he’s on a playthrough of Deus Ex Human Revolution, has covered Dragon Age 2, but its his work on Mass Effect 2 which first got my attention. Multiple multi-part examinations that looks at specific characters, problems with the presented science and even conflicting marketing claims. The last plus a six part entry detailing how Mass Effect 2 might have been fixed has lead to the rather odd conclusion, that while I agree with the thought and opinion behind said fixes, that ultimately Smudboy and the many now complaining about the ending for Mass Effect 3 are in fact wrong. Mostly because their view towards the entire series is likewise incorrect or looking at it from the wrong angle. Which is actually Bioware’s fault.

Okay, let me try to backup.

As offered the Mass Effect trilogy is an epic sci-fi quest in which the player’s choices and decisions effect the course of the story as they battle a major galactic threat while dealing with any number of smaller issues along the way, and possibly Get Some. In actual practice – as Some is indeed Gotten – even though said choices are reflected in certain circumstances throughout the games, overall these options do little to change the overall conclusions of said games. Something which became obvious in the series’ second entry and prompted Smudboy into action.

His well thought out and presented suggestions, the actual result of many contributors he freely and humbly admits in the last part of the specific video entry, paint the picture of a proactive protagonist who charges about the galaxy to gather information, resources, alliances and above all the best of the best to make even better as a single self-relying unit that can tackle any oncoming challenge. To find those challenges. Or to put it another, simpler way, Smudboy’s intent was to apply fixes to a role playing game.

Only, as I’ve come to eventually realize, the Mass Effect series is not about role play gaming. Rather, its about giving a role playing experience. A theatrical role playing experience – lets call it TRPE for short.

Examples of TRPE are such things as accusing Saran of going rouge before the Council in ME1 and having to go on a new mission to prove it, when by a small application of retconned logic, as a space cop following the most basic of forensic procedures during your first meeting, you should have had more than a simple audio recording in the first place. Its knowing the Racnai’s name before the Racnai sub-plot begins and you’re told everything about them. Including their name as if it hadn’t shown up on your HUD in the fight before. It’s the shuttle scene in ME2 as well as Jack being ten times more powerful in her intro cutscene than the rest of the game.

Basically if you’re playing a game where its own established logic suddenly becomes invalid or real world reason comes out of nowhere if for no other excuse than to make a particular scene more intense or cool only to never be utilized again or prior, then you’re in the TRPE zone. Something which in and of itself isn’t necessarily bad, but then again Final Fantasy XIII is certainly a TRPE.

This is where Bioware started with Mass Effect. The basis for books and comics, anmie and likely a full length movie, a whole mass media cult that was built around a concept which could be argued at this point is more exploited than developed. Has lead to the current situation now surrounding the third yet not possible final entry into the series. More because there’s money to be made than a story told.

Looking at Smudboy’s fixes again, taking my own modest look beyond the well intentioned and creative, thought-out source they came from, I see a Mass Effect that’s as much about investigation, team and relationship building through active micro-management as it is about exploration, shooting things and blue alien boobs. A ME1 which would have had Saran running sooner, and an ME2 where the Collector General was recruitable. Leading towards an ME3 about getting Sheppard to the right place at the right time, of making that moment happen with guns blazing, to then argue the Reapers out of the galaxy or elsewhere better than James T Kirk might do.

Then I note to myself why such didn’t happen in the first place, again an admission which Smudboy makes at the end of his recommendations. Namely not knowing if all or any of the suggestions made are possible. At least within the amount of effort and ability shown within the games.

To which I must ask in conclusion, using only what appears to be a stolen and doctored free Internet image to reveal the appearance of a much hyped character’s appearance to accuse them with: Just how hard did Bioware try in the first place?

Link to Smudboy's vids. "His" recommended fixes:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Also, just for the heck of it, start of an equally contributed fandub:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Godmars2904414d ago

2-3 days up and no comments? No criticisms or agreements? Is everyone forgetting this after watching Smudboy's videos?

WitWolfy4413d ago

Good read, I do agre with Jack's cinematic, at first I though CANT WAIT TO USE THIS CHARACTER to find out she was the same as the rest lol

coolbeans4412d ago (Edited 4412d ago )

I don't remember Jack's cutscene very well in ME2, but I don't think your ME1 examples really apply. Since the Geth accompanied Saren on Eden Prime, there's reason to believe some of them could've removed traces of a Reaper or him being there. Forensic Science? There's no bullet casings in ME1 and no other reasonable way for me to believe how Shepard could've caught a Spectre any sooner.

While the Racnai are mentioned sooner than the sub-plot in ME1, it's your decision to investigate the species further in the codex or dialogue options.

Edit: Enjoyable read btw

Godmars2904412d ago

Using the contemporary examples of current police or astronaut procedure, there would be the Normandy's scanner recordings, their own suit recordings - the same kind that was used to reveal Saran as going rouge - as well as the guy he killed. And though the deactivated nukes aren't exactly proof pointing towards Saran, they were the measure the Geth were using to remove proof. Why would they bother with anything else?

Also, while there's no bullet casings in ME, weapons do have energy profiles. Show certain and identifiable signs of damage. And as standardized as things might be, there are likely differences between Geth weapons as well as the weapons of the various organic races just like there are differences between types of handguns, rifles and machineguns. The dead Specter who'd been shot point blank from behind would have been as telling as a spent casing.

And yes I'm mostly speculating here, but its the kind of speculation that specifically pokes at plot holes. Asks why a space cop doesn't seem to be doing what a regular beat cop would which is secure evidence.

I'll give you the Racnai because its a small nitpick, but Bioware still could have done it better. Given the reveal some mystery and value to the following scene which explains them within game context, but then they were probably thinking in terms of a shooter rather than an RPG.

coolbeans4412d ago (Edited 4412d ago )

I applaud that reasoning for Saren (+bubbles). I didn't even consider any of those details. I'll give you the suit recordings, but I can't fully agree to the weapon profile part. Although this is speculation, who's to say a Spectre didn't steal a Salarian pistol prototype?

Regardless, thanks for replying with those examples (I didn't watch vid so not sure if that's all on there :P). I guess at the end of the day we still need to consider story/narrative/etc. depth is still in its infancy, but critical sci-fi analysis like this can keep future writers on their toes.

coolbeans4412d ago

Edit in first reply: I meant to say 'videogame story/narrative/etc. depth'.

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Fallout 4's 'next gen' update is over 14 gigs, breaks modded saves, & doesn't change much at all

We were expecting problems with mod support, but there are a lot of other issues.

isarai9h ago

Wow what the actual hell 🤣🤣🤣

just_looken8h ago

This is why you get the GOG version on gog you can select the version of the game to download.

On pc fallout 4 fallout new vegas and skyrim are all broken on steam because they all got the same "next gen" update.

Skyrim dec 2023
https://www.pcgamer.com/sky...

Can not find new vegas but anyone that modded it knows the script extender there was also broken

Valkyrye7h ago

Not accidental, they want modders to stop modding their older games to force them to mod Shitfield.

just_looken5h ago

There doing the same on starfield with a mods store and blocking mods

There goal is like blizzard and what they did with fallout 76 you make mods they can sell and you become a slave.

On skyrim they have "trusted" mod devs now basically a badge that lets your mod on the store you get a crumb of the sale when someone buys it.

Inverno3h ago

lol to the disagrees, the last Skyrim update broke mods too. They've been trying to kill mods to monetize them in creation club for years, it's not a stretch that they purposely put out patches just to break free mods.

porkChop2h ago

The disagrees are from people who have common sense. They aren't trying to kill mods. Most mods for any game will break with a new update because they rely on files/code that have been changed. This isn't new. Even with Bethesda this would happen way before the creation club. Mod support is literally one of the things that got Bethesda to where they are, and they're one of the only devs that releases comprehensive mod tools for each of their games.

Chocoburger3h ago

Over 14 GBs and doesn't change much at all? What? Taking up that much drive space for a pathetic 'remastering' is shameful.

Par for Bethesda.

Aussiesummer2h ago

It's not a remaster, it's a next gen update.

badz1491h ago

LOL people are actually expecting massive improvements or something? From Bethesda?? the same people who released Skyrim multiple times and the all look like shit? THAT Bethesda? are people for real?

Profchaos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

The ps5 version doesn't change a ton but from my small playtime it's enough to make me want to replay it just to have it running at 60.

A side note to this my PS4 version no longer boots after it's "update" so I guess that's what it feels like to own a Bethesda game on PC

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein7h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno4h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k42h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson2h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu3h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson2h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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Gears of War Voice Actor Hints At New Game Announcement Coming In June

A voice actor from The Coalition's third-person shooter series, Gears of War, has hinted at a new game announcement coming in June.

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Ra30302h ago

Hopefully Microsoft will go back to the original story line and get away from that woke nonsense from the last Gears game Gears of Woke! But were talking about Microsoft so all the betting money is on more of the same woke nonsense.

Sciurus_vulgaris1h ago

The Locust trilogy concluded with Gears of War 3. I don’t get how Gears 4 and 5 are “woke” .