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Fanboy Addicts Hooked On Format War

When it comes to HD DVD vs. Blu-ray Disc, people are bound to hear passionate arguments, angry words, and even outright threats. But it's not coming from Sony, Toshiba, or even studio spokesmen with a vested, financial interest.

It's the fans who have been most vocal - and controversial - about the new millennium's format war.

"Status symbol, bragging rights or just the fact that people want to show off their tech knowledge, what they are doing is presenting their opinions on forums and blogs and then defending these opinions - and their 'tech' - with fanaticism," said Xiao Fang, webmaster of DigitalDigest.com, one of the many Web sites where HD DVD and Blu-ray fanboys express their thoughts. "It is unique in that I don't think something like this has happened before on such a scale."

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neogeo6005d ago

360 4 life!
Wii 4 life!
blueray 4 life!

HDDVD? never herd of it.

thereapersson6005d ago

The same could be said about the console war

snoop_dizzle6005d ago (Edited 6005d ago )

BUERA IS TEH FUTR"! BOW TO IT!

NO!

TEH HDDVDD IS A GNNA PWN YUO!

Anyways yes it is kinda sad people put that much energy into a format. They are important, but gee, there is overkill. I buy bluray or just dvd(i might start buying hddvd though), but i don't really go on saying anything.

fury6005d ago (Edited 6005d ago )

Once they've made their decisions, they spread fud, bs and hate on the other format, even if they can't back their hatred with valid arguments. It's like you've been born in a certain country and develop national pride and hate or discriminate against another country and their citizens. The same applies to religions, which is an even better example. People have a certain religion, for example the Christianity or the Islam. Now the extremists of the respective religions hate on each other because they do not share the same thoughts, or basically the same "decision".

Now, for some people Blu-ray is a "religion" and for others HD-DVD is. Any why do they hate and can't get along? Because they are different (even just slightly) and don't share the same thoughts and decisions. But there is one thing they share, actually the most important thing, they both want to watch movies in HD but with _one_ precondition. "Their" format (religion) has to win this race.
This is really odd if you think about it...shows you how dumb the average joe is.
Of course it would be the best solution to let one format win not to confuse the mass-market, but in the end it will boil down hybrid players, which can play both Blu-ray and HD-DVD.

blackmagic6005d ago

Nice thought out comment FuRy.

eagle216005d ago

They are the ones who fed and were paid to write North American FUD like back in the Genesis and SNES days. I'm sorry but I do not blame fanboys, I blame the media. And this article was written by the media, blaming it on fanboys. But fanboys are consumers and have the right to like whatever they want. If the media would be responsible and recognize sales trends, not reporting every variable like it can't change, we may have a comfortable blog community. I myself, never read blogs and stuff about (Sony, Nintendo, MS...Blu Ray HD DVD) till this past summer. Some stuff was too funny not to read! But I know that hundreds of millions of potential consumers (billions for the movie market) are out there and it will take 5 years of hardwork to win anything.

DFresh6005d ago

Both formats are gonna be around forever might as well just accept it that way.
I do know that Blu-ray has a gigantic lead over the HD DVD format and more support from movie industries.
All the videogame consoles will still be around.
There's really no point in arguing because the only person that loses is you.
In my opinion I like Blu-ray better because in movies and games it has more space on a disc to work with 2X the space as a matter of fact.
This format war is almost like the Cold War just a stalemate with no victory.
I think every console has it's great things and then it has it's bad things.
I'm more long term
and
Sony to me is more reliable than MS
and
they offer a lot of stuff for free.
ex.) Home, Online, Firmware Updates, etc.
PS3 is the better deal in my opinion.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7223h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18818h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21839h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga8h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan4h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus233h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv722h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10113h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos12h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-2h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac11h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10111h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead2h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein22h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno18h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k417h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson16h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu17h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson16h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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This Gigabyte GPU is now among the cheapest RTX 4090s on Amazon after a hefty deal

On Amazon, you can't get an RTX 4090 for less than this one from Gigabyte, which now offers great value after an eye-catching April deal.