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Microsoft Will Not Ban for Recent Code Exploit

At PAX today Microsoft was asked about the supposed $1.2 million they lost due to the code exploit. Two days ago I received a response from Microsoft stating that their “Policy and Enforcement team is evaluating whether or not certain individuals have violated the Terms of Use for Xbox LIVE”. The audio in the following video makes it sound like they could not find anything in the ToU to rightfully punish those who took advantage of the website. Microsoft puts the fault on themselves.

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SixZeroFour4805d ago

dang...now i wish i got some msp codes lol

Brash_Attack4805d ago

Agreed. I really tried to stay away from this out of fear of being banned. I would have loaded up on them knowing all would have been fine. I'm not doing anything else that could get me in trouble.

DaCajun4805d ago

Yea but did they say they wouldn't go after them for theft? You never know they might try to take the person who created the code generator to court for damages. They just said no bans this time which I'm sure they will fix that so next time they will drop the ban hammer. Don't you worry they will get their money one way or another out of you.

Everyone of those idiots are blimps on MS radar. You know what is funny they re probably the same idiots that keep buying console after console and getting them banned every time for modding, hacking, cheating, or something else just to have to buy a new console, so in the long run these idiots probably lose more money than they scam from MS.

Wenis4805d ago

Interesting. If you find an exploit in Xbox's system, Microsoft humbly blames it on themselves. If you find an exploit in Sony's system they try to sue you and ruin your financial life forever.

tails134805d ago

Might contribute to the fact that Microsoft's console is so easy to pirate games for.

SixZeroFour4805d ago

what does the ease of hacking something, have to do with whether or not one can take legal action against?

Emilio_Estevez4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

They're not blaming themselves, they just can't find anything in the TOS that justifies a ban. I think they will find something and ban eventually.

f7897904805d ago

Exactly. If they ban without quoting something from the TOS, they'll get sued.

sashimi4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

So you are comparing a exploit that maybe gets people a few dollars and cause Microsoft to lose less then a million dollar to exploits that cause piracy?.

Exploits that not only allow cheaters to ruin the online experience for us the gamers, but also cause 3rd party and Sony developers to lose profit on games they spent time and money creating for us gamers(you not included).

Yeah you are o so smart /s If M$ could they would ban everyone who used that exploit in a heartbeat but apparently there is nothing they can do about it.

Adva4805d ago

Use your brain, if you have any. MS couldn't find anything in their ToS to get rid of the scrubs, Sony did.

Try again kid.

maxcer4805d ago

that's because sony changes the TOS every fucing time you update your FW. not hard changing the rules any time you see fit.

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gman_2974805d ago

And you begin to wonder why people keep doing crap to the 360. Cause they can get away w/ that shit, that's why.

8thnightvolley4805d ago

MS is like the new saint of companies.. first welcomes hackers to kinect, and now this.. wow.. ok.. they got a "Halo" on their head now..

PandemicPrawn04805d ago

They certainly have mellowed out over the last twelve or so months. I wonder what the reasoning is behind it?

8thnightvolley4804d ago

they wanna be "the big green friendly giant.."

AWWWWWWWWW... and make their brand more appealing like apple or something i dunno

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How can any Xbox studio trust Microsoft now?

For Xbox’s hugely expanded gaming division, anything that isn’t Call of Duty is now a failure, and that’s a problem

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lelo2play17h ago

Honestly, If I worked presently for Microsoft's gaming division, I would update my CV and look for work elsewhere...

Simon_the_sorcerer17h ago

I would do the same, because MS will most likely pull-off more stunts like this in the near future...

Chocoburger7h ago

"Now"?

How about "ever"?

They closed so many of their dev teams during the second half of the Xbox 360 era. Have we forgotten history so quickly?

Dummy fake journalists acting so surprised over these recent closures, when this is something that's been going on for well over a decade now with MS.

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Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures

"The sudden closure of several video-game studios at Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox division was the result of a widespread cost-cutting initiative that still isn’t finished.

This week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said.

Game Pass has not seen the massive growth that Xbox boss Phil Spencer may have been hoping for."

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just_looken13h ago

Sense it seems very few remember that human's were around before 2020 the next studio to close will be bethesda based no doubt on the history of.

Fallout 76
Elder scrolls online
elder scrolls blades mobile
fallout mobile
The vr versions of old games

Then you got starfield pissing out cash nothing to cover it.

I doubt tod's team or any sub team is making m$ cash they are no doubt on the chopping block for job cuts

If you can remember before 2020 even fallout 76 was made with over 4 studios.

purple10122m ago(Edited 19m ago)

pretty sure starfield coming to playstation 2024, nx gamer deep diving on the creation engine update in a recent blog, he seems to think, there is a lot of stuff developed to use on starfield for its Playstation release,

who will buy it though, ?? I think M$ has lost all good will now, after the Activision debacle, and now all these studios closing, people dont want to support them even if the game is half decent

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"Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said"

So what you're saying is...you bought all these studios and you guys can't run them.

Jesus.

Inverno14h ago

Spread thin after firing over 2000 employees a few months prior. So basically they created the problem and their solution was to just fire more people. Absolute geniuses over at Xbox, of course can we even believe this to be the reason for the closures?

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Profchaos12h ago

Leaders can't run them hire more management create new roles don't shutter entire studios cause you can't figure out how to run them.

Unless the reality is this whole consolidation thing was really an excuse for IP harvesting

anast2h ago

He's lying. They are doing it for the shareholders.

Eonjay14h ago

Reports are suggesting that Game Pass will be getting a price hike soon and that Call of Duty may not be added to the day one offering. I honestly have a hard time believing this but it does beg the question why exactly did GP fail? I think the answer is that it just didn't get the growth that it anticipated. Jim was right but I wish he wasn't because at the end of the day, its gamers, devs and other front-line workers who have to absorb the blow for Spencer and team's miscalculations.

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NotoriousWhiz13h ago

And out of the ashes something even better than Xbox will be born.

Eonjay13h ago

Honestly as long as is not a situation where the industry has to contract in order focus wealth on a few people who are already trillionaires..

Barlos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It's already here and it was born before Xbox was even a thing. It's called PlayStation.

Tacoboto12h ago

I think 2022 killed the Series X.

2021 was a good year for Xbox though and maybe the best in a long long time, hardware and software and as a publisher. Halo Infinite launched to popularity, Forza Horizon 5 blew everyone away, Psychonauts 2 was so well received, Flight Simulator on console, Deathloop even on PS5 & PC.

But they followed that up with next to nothing. Then 2023 with Redfall, a disappointing Forza, Starfield, and 2024 leads with closures and layoffs. And some tweets reminding us Hellblade is days away.

The only disappointment with the PS5 is not enough Sony games. Xbox followed up no games with disappointing ones.

Scissorman14h ago

For all the armchair executives who were calling for Sony to release its big-budget AAA games on PS+, the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation. Game Pass has killed Xbox. Congrats.

shinoff218314h ago

There's not many of of us clamoring for Sony to do this because most of us understand it would kill Playstation. I'm sure there's a few but I've not seen alot of it myself.

porkChop2h ago

"the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation"

But the same thing *has* been happening at PS. They've closed, what, 3 or 4 studios so far this gen? Laid off plenty of staff, restructured studios, etc.

BehindTheRows54m ago(Edited 50m ago)

PlayStation isn’t struggling. Xbox is. That’s the difference.

Sony also didn’t buy out multiple publishers with LOTS of studios and leave them in a state of uncertainty.

So, he’s absolutely right that Sony not following Game Pass in its entirety was smart as this very thing could have happened. Name a team, like Tango, who wasn’t struggling (like Tango) that Sony closed. Every closure was because of a studio who wasn’t pulling their weight.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast1d 2h ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech521h ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom23h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff218323h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus2322h ago(Edited 22h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

DOMination-19h ago

How much confidence do people have in these games being good though? I hope they will be (especially Avowed) but from what we know of them so far, it's hardly a guarantee, is it?

And even if they do turn out to be good, how much of that will be down to Xbox and its leadership? Most of these games were either sequels to games made before being acquired or started development before being acquired.

And just a note on Hellblade II - it is out in two weeks and unless I'm missing something, I don't see much in the way of previews or advertising from Microsoft. Not ideal for a niche game that looks like it probably cost a lot of money to make. It genuinely feels like another game being sent out to die and then have the studio shut down.

Elda18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

To me...Avowed graphics look cheap, the game looks generic as well as boring.

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anast1d 2h ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast21h ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim21h ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

anast17h ago

I find it interesting that people have to resort to praising how they were randomly born in a certain location to say they're not weird. But, I'm not sure this kind of stupidity can be generalized over an entire group of people, at least, I'm being optimistic here.

Eonjay1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman1d ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto22h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA22h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda22h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz14922h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MatrixxGT20h ago

Let’s not pretend Sony is setting the world on fire with its first party either….it’s been crickets from them as well. In fact they even said not to expect any at all this year.
MS is a dumpster fire and Sony isn’t fighting anymore and it shows. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Skuletor16h ago

Wasn't it no new existing IP entries? That would still leave room for new IPs, maybe we'll see one or more of those this year.

Sonic188120h ago

I was actually thinking about that. You beat me to it

MrDead1d 1h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson23h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff218323h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus2322h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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