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Blu-ray holds 90% of market share in Japan, and outselling HD-DVD in EU/US - IFA 2007

Today at IFA press day, the BDA gave a presentation running through the status of operations along with studio bigshots from Disney, Warner Bros and Fox. Here's the rundown on what they said:

- Blu-ray holds 90% market share in Japan for both movies and hardware
- In US Blu-ray has 63% standalone unit market share and over 66% of hi-def disc sales
- 70% of hi-def sales in Europe are Blu-ray with 3:1 ratio over HD DVD

TriggerHappy6081d ago (Edited 6081d ago )

Impressive!. Good news, hope this means this accursed war is finally coming to a close with a victor slowly looming in from the not so distant future.

PS: Mind you, am not saying Blu-ray has won the war, the point am making is that, things are looking really good for them right now.

cuco336081d ago

look at the facts with an unbiased view... HDM (high def movies) make a blip of profit in overall movie sales regardless of where you are. HD DVD has made a big stride in US only and very little in europe and asia (all soon to change)

i'm neutral but will state it'll be years before either camp wins. also note, anything a USA resident preaches about euro or asia should note most films made in those regions don't mean squat since BD is region coded and hence can only play USA titles. like gaming, who cars how sales are in europe or japan. if you are an american, look only at american figures

ktchong6081d ago

considering Paramount/Dreamworks have an 18-month exclusivity contract with HD DVD.

TriggerHappy6081d ago

So basically, their deal is timed ?

Infernus6080d ago

Blu-Ray games are region free. BD aren't region free by default. I could buy a US PS3 game when it comes out and play it on my UK PS3. The only reason I don't do that is because the game comes out just 2 days later over here.

What do you mean sales in Europe and Japan mean squat? There are more regions than just the USA Region 1 you know... The region coding is exactly the same as it was for DVD's in terms of movies. For games there is no region locking and you can moves games around different regions without any problems.

Also, this is global news; not just news for the US. I certainly want to see how Blu-Ray is doing compared to HD-DVD because I want to know what the future holds for movies, games and disc storage media. No I don't have a blu-ray drive built into my computer, the things are expensive, but we should be looking ahead not just looking at the present and the past. Blu-Ray discs have a larger capacity. Single layer BD's are only 5GB smaller than double layer HD-DVD's, with the dual layer BD providing a huge amount of space at 50GB that I don't think games could fill up for many years. Ever heard of a 50GB game? Nah didn't think so, but it's nice to know there's a media that can provide that. Blu-Ray has my support all the way.

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Bloodmask6081d ago

With Bluray sales acounting for about 3 % of total DVD sales worldwide. And HDDVD about 2%. So total HD media sales make up about 5% of the market.

On order for either format to win you would need to achieve at least 51% DVD market share. That won't happen for years.

Most consumers are still buying DVD-9 and will be for quite some time. Get back to me in about 2012.

Bathyj6081d ago

51% would be to win the whole market. BR only has to win the HD movie market.

Once it does, then overall penetration will climb because fence sitters wont be so nervous anymore.

Rageanitus6081d ago

Always trying to downplay blu-ray... and it sad that you bring up the argument of attach rate and stand alone players, but those things are of the past) Hd-dvd is still losing ground.

And to bring up the standard dvd argument.... it is just pathetic. You make it sound like hd movie watching should take over standard dvd immediatly. Sorry but there is the concept of TRANSITION period.

TheFatOne6081d ago

you always have to put down any BD related news, but if it was HD DVD then you would be praising it saying that BD is all but dead. Well it's obvious that BD is winning now, but it will still take a year or two to destroy HD DVD.

Bloodmask6081d ago (Edited 6081d ago )

But that is for the sole purpose of pissing off Sonykids bc they irritate me. Note....not Sony fans, Sony kids.....My above statement is a very logical statement and also very unbiased yet people still disagree with me.

It took many years for DVD to overtake VHS. This format war has basicly just started. When people made the jump to DVD it was a huge uprade from VHS. The only differences this time are the resolution and sound quality. And HDTVs don't even have a mass market penetration yet. Not to mention how many people have the kind of stereo equipment with HDMI outputs to truly take advantage of the sound upgrade yet??

stunt2136081d ago

i dont know what world u live in today but u have to go to a junkyard to find VHS today and no one even watch movies on VHS today because u will never see any new release movies in VHS again.

Rageanitus6081d ago

to me you sound more like a kid who cant afford the luxuries of blu-ray or hd-dvd.

And yes it took many years (~10 years) for dvd to mature.
Whats your point, blu-ray\hd-dvd is progressing just as fast.

hdtvs will also increase in market share. Its not people will not buy them within the next couople of years.

Scrooge6081d ago

I read an article stating that 90% of all BD are played on PS3's. Is this true? If so, would these huge production companies invest their money purely on a demograph that consists of video-gamers? I think the war still has a long way to go.

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The Karate Kid6081d ago

1 year from today there will be nearly 15 Million PS3 consoles sold worldwide which means a whole lot of Blu-Ray movies being sold daily!

3.5 Million in Japan

6 Million North America

4.5 Million Europe

With nearly all the manufacting companies supporting blu-ray the retail will be overloaded with players that is indeed dropping in price every quarter. not to mention a Possible Playstation 3 Price Drop in March 08" and it will be all over for HD-DVD.

Can't even start on all the possible Blu-Ray movies that will drop in Q4 and all the movies that will launch in 2008. My Prediction is that this war will be officially over by X-mas 2008. Just in time for Finding Nemo On Blu-Ray =)

gsx-r6081d ago

your new name should be Toolbox.

neogeo6080d ago

IF the AAA games sell like hotcakes and there is another price cut this year then the war will end very soon.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7217h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle4h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio1h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga3h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21832h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1016h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos5h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac5h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad5h ago(Edited 4h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1014h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic2h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein15h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno11h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k410h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson10h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu11h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson10h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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This Gigabyte GPU is now among the cheapest RTX 4090s on Amazon after a hefty deal

On Amazon, you can't get an RTX 4090 for less than this one from Gigabyte, which now offers great value after an eye-catching April deal.