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Should Sony Redesign the PlayStation Controller with "PS4"?

Since the release of the original PlayStation gaming console, Sony has used the DualShock in each of its following gaming systems, the PlayStation 2, and the PlayStation 3. With each release, the necessary improvements have been made to the controller in order to stay even with competition. Many gamers are more than happy with the DualShock controller up to this day because they are accustomed to the controller's feel and love the comfortable setup that it provides. However, others argue that the DualShock is outdated and needs to be completely redesigned the way that Nintendo and Microsoft (to some extent) have done to their respective game pads. Here we will take a look at the evolution of Sony's most popular controller over the years.

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mushroomwig5525d ago

Don't fix what's not broken, that's a great motto.

It's a shame N4G didn't see their website design like that. -__-

toaster5525d ago

I think the new site looks rather nice.

As for the controller, Boomerang FTW!! I always thought that the prototype PS3 controller looks awesome. Sony should totally put it into production.

Reibooi5525d ago

That boomerang would have been nearly impossible to use as a controller. It's shape would cause it to just slide out of your hands.

The DualShock is the best controller out there. Why do you think 90% of the PC controllers made by other companies try their best to copy it? It just works. The PS4 should keep using it there is nothing better they can produce.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5525d ago

''Don't fix what's not broken''

Exactly, that's all people need to know.

Haters of the PS3 Controllers in... 3...2....1:

FlipMode5525d ago

Dont change anything except for the triggers and I'll be happy.

zootang5525d ago

Nintendo lead the way.

Nes/super nes controller. Sets the industry standard. PlayStation Control Pad
N64 Analogue controller. Sets the industry standard. Dual analogue controller
Wii remote. Sets the industry standard. PlayStation Move

What makes anyone think this trend won't continue?
Nintendo Create, PlayStation improve

Just my opinion on controllers

Legosz5525d ago

All they need to do is curve the analogs like the 360 controllers. Other then that it's perfect.

Genji9195525d ago

No, I fucking hate the 360 analog sticks. It takes too much to move them, and when you do you've moved them to far. Too much damn resistance.

HolyOrangeCows5525d ago (Edited 5525d ago )

If they want to change the shape a bit, I wouldn't mind. Oh, and change the L2/R2.

Otherwise, just keep it the same setup.

I have symmetrical hands, so no, I don't want one control stick an inch higher than the other. And I don't want a useless D-pad that never senses the correct direction. And I don't want a battery pack that comes loose and shuts off the controller ever so often.

The_Count5525d ago

I'm unhappy about losing my 9 bubbles and I'm sure many others are too. Except for the 1 bubble trolls that is. And is 3 bubbles like the max now -_-

Ah ah ah

Darrius Cole5525d ago

The reason Sony didn't change the controller for the PS3 is the that gamers demanded that the controller remain the same.

If anything Sony should move the design back towards the Dualshock 2. Microsoft changed their original Xbox controller to be more like the Dualshock 2. That is evidence that the design of the Dualshock is just fine. If anything, I wish the Dualshock 3 had Dualshock 2 styled R2 & L2 buttons instead of the trigger-buttons it has now.

P.S.

I miss my 8 bubbles as well. 3 bubbles is not enough to carry on a decent conversation. The new "reply to the reply" feature gives us a reason to use more bubbles and yet they have taken bubbles away.

Zeevious5525d ago (Edited 5525d ago )

Why punish us for the acts of others?

I was legitimately given those 9 bubbles over the course of years of comments. I had them for over a year and a half...

The site was redesigned for the users, and it was the users who gave me and everyone else our bubbles. Why make us pay for the poor quality of people abusing the system here?

We lose because the mods did not do their job, and apparently it's just easier to bump everyone down to 3, than do their job? That's a slap right in the face for the time and effort I have put into my comments here, and my time...Now Wasted.

I question whether I will bother with any other efforts after this very very lazy act by the site operators.

You don't punish your valid contributors to get at the bad ones!

I'm sure many people who legitimately contributed to this site, earned their bubbles and supported N4G would welcome the admins responsibly correcting this mistake.

. . . . .

I agree with Darrius...other than the triggers, I like the DS3 as it is.

Lich1205525d ago

I'd like more resistance in the thumbsticks. I know this will garner disagrees, but I much prefer the feel of the 360 controller for shooters. The dpad is way better on the ps3's controller though. Also, the buttons feel better.

Government Cheese5524d ago

Personally I think they should. Well, maybe just make it slightly larger, about the same size as the 360's controller. I have really long fingers, and I really have a hard time playing on a PS3/PS2 controller for more than a few hours at a time because my hands start hurting. I don't get this problem with the 360 controller.

Anon73495524d ago

Normally I agree with you, but this time you're just being ignorant.

I doubt you've ever held a boomerang controller so maybe you should just shut your face. In no way does it "Slide out of your hands."

It's probably the best controller design ever, it had a perfect dpad, analog sticks, buttons, design, ect

The design makes it easy to rest both finger easily on both R1/L1 and R2/L2 which was one of the biggest disadvantages of the DS3.

shadow27975524d ago (Edited 5524d ago )

Keep the triggers, make them concave (like those add on things they have now). The triggers are great for racing games, I just dislike the way they curve.

Put a light behind the PS button, just because it would look awesome.
Put more resistance and durability into the analogue sticks.
Give us Eight possible connections instead of Seven (For Move 2, mostly).
Improve force feedback strength.
Sell at a cheaper price :)

Anon19745524d ago

I came across someone once that claimed he was part of a testing group for the boomerang PS3 controllers and he said they were excellent. He particularly liked the rumble features. From what he told me there were multiple rumble motors throughout the boomerang controller, and depending on what was happening the rumble gave almost a 3d effect through your hands. Getting shot from behind? You could tell by the way the controller was rumbling.

That's what I heard anyway. Personally, I'm a fan of the dual shock. Didn't care for the original controllers that shipped with the PS3 - they just felt too light - but once the lawsuit was settled and Sony could put out the rumble controller again, I have to say - feeling the heft of the controller in my hand and feeling the familiar rumble was like coming home.

TheRealWar5524d ago

Are you serious?, i just tested the PS3 and Xbox 360 controller after reading your comment and they are basically the same.Either your xbox 360 controller is broken or you are a very weak person.

Hellas135524d ago

The new L2 R2 are great for driving games

fenix13005524d ago

its not about being strong or weak its about precision. there was an article around the time the pS3 launched that measured the dead zones of each controller and the dead zone of the 360 was much larger than that of the ps3, meaning that you can get better aiming on the PS3. I don't think its possible to be weak enough to not be able to move a joystick LOL

dabri55524d ago

I would love for them to change the position and tension of the analog sticks. I guess my thumbs are big because I cant press the start or select button without moving the analog sticks out of the way. The analog sticks also feel kinda loose, thus greater tension. The L2 and R2 triggers are a nice addition with the DS3 however my fingers tend to want to slide off when they are fully pressed. Maybe a curve to them would help. Other than those things, the overall design is classic and has staid the same because it works. I like the horned grip and the 4 button, 4 shoulder placement. Just some little adjustments like what we've seen in the past would be nice.

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SeanRL5525d ago

Same with youtube lol. But yeah the current controller works fine. Maybe a couple additions, but an entirely new controller would be kinda stupid.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5525d ago (Edited 5525d ago )

I've heard this is the new PS Controller, probably will be at E3 Sony Conference:

http://www.hamovhotov.com/f...

Downtown boogey5525d ago

"I've heard this is the new PS Controller, probably will be at E3 Sony Conference"

PlayStation Move? Yeah, I think we've all heard about it... Wait, what's this?..

Trey_4_life5524d ago

Lmao why would they change the perfected design of the playstation dualshock 3?

Have you tried playing street fighter or tekken with other consoles controllers? turns into a noob-fest 101.

dabri55524d ago

I would think both controllers have perfectly capable analog stick designs (pretty similar), so I would assume your comment mainly deals with the d-pad, which in a lot of fighter gamers opinions is the noob-fest way of playing....

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Mo0eY5525d ago

The only thing I'd fix is the sensitivity on the L2/R2 buttons. Sometimes when I run to pee, I put the controller down, and in games like BFBC2 and Uncharted 2, I accidentally throw a grenade killing myself.

Other than that and a larger battery, the controller is fine. Miles better than the clunky, non-responsive 360 controller.

toaster5525d ago

I didn't know I could pause the game in multiplayer?!! I should try that next time.

animboo5525d ago

Hahahahaha..that made me laugh..

Mr Logic5525d ago

You can't so called "pause" a game in multiplayer, but usually pushing the start button will bring up some kind of menu that will prevent any triggers from being pressed.

kneon5525d ago

I'd like a rubberized texture on the body of the controller. I think that's it.

Epicor5524d ago

Buy gioteck real triggers for your Dualshock3. They really do work, trust me. I purchased those and never looked back. No more accidential R2/L2 pressing as you put the controller down. And they are concave so no more slippery triggers.

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Anarki5525d ago

The control is fine! The only problem is the really sensitive back buttons(L2/R2) which tend to do shit when I just gently tap them i.e fast forwarding in movies

duplissi5525d ago

then get the bluetooth remote, its much better for watching stuff

captain-obvious5525d ago

i think the dual shock is great as it is
just keep it as it as and name it dual shock 4

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zootang5525d ago (Edited 5525d ago )

wrong reply

zootang5525d ago (Edited 5525d ago )

@LaChance Below

http://www.renchi.com/rench...

A 360 controller on a PS3 for $19.99

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ChozenWoan5525d ago

It has two extra buttons on top that would be perfect for fighting games and it would allow developers more options for player control.

This is what the DS4 should be like.

Simon_Brezhnev5524d ago

not sure why you got disagrees but i agree with you i wouldnt mind the 2 face buttons den i wont have to worry about buying some cheap madcatz controller like i did for SF4.

ChozenWoan5524d ago

I've used one for the Emulators on my PC and it's great.

Now that I think about it, I need to try to see if it will work with my PS3. ;)

Sitdown5525d ago

so in your opinion, the DualShock is the perfect controller?

winlonghorn5525d ago

You cannot get any innovation if companies never try to change what works. If that were true, we could say, "Why ever have a PS4? PS3 works just fine!" ;)

xabmol5525d ago (Edited 5525d ago )

The controller is extremely comfortable in the human hand. What more is there to ask of a perfectly functional game pad? You can't do mutch more than pressure sensitive buttons and anog sticks. And as far as those go, Sony is the leader. From the widened analog movement for increased precision to the best Dpad on the market.

You can't take the game pad any further. 3D motion controls are the next step.

dtalon35525d ago

really? perfect eh? tell that to my thumbs when they clash together from the sticks being too close together. What pressure sensitive mumbo jumbo are you talking about? no one likes the damn pressure sensitive crap, even most people who DO like the controller complain about those stupid pressure sensitive "triggers" if you can call that a trigger. Ergonomic huh? the controller doesn't even feel like it should be something in your hand. Sony has the worst controller IMO (bring on the disagrees fanboys).

I will give one feature to the ps3...D-pad, sony wins that battle hands down.

baker_boi5525d ago

Dude, c'mon...Your thumbs crash together on the analog sticks? You must have some EXTREMELY long thumbs or Extremely big hands. Either way that sucks for you lol.

Why the hell would you be pressing the analog sticks towards each other anyway? I don't know a game that has you do that. And in most games you only usin one stick anyway.

So I think you just trollin or tryna show your fanboy draws.

And pressure sensitivity has been added in EVERY controller to date after the DS2 added it in. So who loves it? I guess everybody. Try playin any racing game, or any game where you have to drive some mobile and tell me pressure sensitivity aint the business.

The back "triggers", which I think shouldn't be triggers at all(Bring back my back border SONY)aren't sensitive because a "pressure" feature, they're just fricken hanging out there. They're like hair pins. Folly of the design. It was perfect the way it was with the DS1 and DS2.

And of course it has a nice D-Pad.

But anyway dtalon your logic kinda stinks. You don't redesign something unless it's broken or doesn't work. Which is why MS redisgn they're big bricks, and Nintendo just did redesigns just to be doing it. And all of em have sucked except the Class PRO(PRO = Playstation Rip Off).

MS, Idea was also to get their controller as close to the DS design without being sued. So they used Nintendo's button scheme and SONY's layout, switch the D-Pad with one Analog stick.

Meanwhile, SONY has only changed their original design by adding two analog sticks in the middle and ripping out the wired cord.

Besides that, yall 360 owners the ones who laughed the "Boomerang" out of the house. What the hell would you want a redesign for? It's not like you'd use it anyway. Jeez.

dtalon35524d ago

Don't want to burst your bubble but I do own a Ps3 as well as a 360 and the craptastic wii. I enjoy my 360 and my ps3 for what I use them for. that is neither here nor there.

I was simply commenting on how much I dislike the playstation design with their controller although lets be truly fair here the award for worst may have to go to the gamecube.

I should correct myself though, there is nothing wrong with the pressure sensitive buttons just sony's R2/L2 bu...whatever they are.
If all M$ did was redesign the dual shock without copyright infringement well then mission accomplished because that thing fits like a glove.

to be fair also you may have a point about my big hands because I kinda enjoyed the "BOAT" controller from the original xbox...though the redesign for the 360 feels much better all around to me.

"Dude, c'mon...Your thumbs crash together on the analog sticks?"

----->yes, playing shooters only though. not with other conventional games.

mushroomwig5524d ago

Indeed it is.

@Winlonghorn, we're talking about the controller, not the system itself. There is a big difference.

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Killjoy30005525d ago

I don't think a redesign is necessary, more of just some refinements and nice looking facelift.

joemayo765525d ago

but i'm thinking they should change the appearance of the face buttons (circle, X, square , triangle, d-pad) to appear more like sixaxis "boomerang" buttons as altho the controller design looked odd the buttons looked really sleek with that "bubble-like" appearance

duplissi5525d ago

yeah, just make it a little more ergonomic (maybe fill out the handles a bit like the 360 pad), i wouldnt mind if the sticks were concave, and i know it doesnt bother me but some would like a curve to the l2/r2, but other than those keep the layout the exact same.

K-Tuck5525d ago

That would be fine, except for the boomerang controller had angled buttons and an angled D-pad. I can say for sure that when up on the controller isn't precisely up, it leads to nothing but frustration.

If Sony had kept it that way, I would have been very upset.

ShadowRyuX5525d ago

Sony should have a DualShock 4 that would come with the PS4 and would closely resemble the DS3, except it could probably be a little bigger and have triggers identical to the 360's controller.
Then they could have the DS4S or DualShock 4 Shooter. This would would much more closely resemble the 360 controller, but still have a bit of DS flavor.

That would be what I'd like anyways, because when I play God of War or 3D Dot Game Heroes I couldn't picture using the 360 controller, but when I play KZ2 I can't help but think how much more comfortable the 360 controller would be.

Raf1k15525d ago

I prefer the symmetrical layout of the DS3. It feels more natural compared to the 360s IMO what with symmetry being such an integral part of nature.

Anyway, being able to use the DS3 with the PS4 would be great.

kaveti66165524d ago

For some reason I prefer the asymmetrical nature of the analogs on the 360. It just feels more ergonomic.

JL5524d ago

I'm with you Raf. For some reason, when I've played my friend's xbox before, I can NOT get past that asymmetry of the controller. I absolutely need that symmetry that the playstation controller provides. That 360 controller just feels....unnatural (like you said.

Also, I do NOT want them to make the playstation controller bigger like the 360 controller. The 360 controller is just too bulky for me. Maybe I have small hands or something, but the 360 controller just doesn't feel "comfortable" to me due to it's bulkiness.

To me, in overall design of the Playstation controller is fairly perfect. There should be some tweaks here and there though in details. They could change those "triggers" maybe something closer to back what the DS2 was like. Concave like the 360 would be nice. Though I'm not sure I'd like the same position as the 360 has, they just don't feel right to me there (or course that could also be due to the bulkiness of the controller throwing the positioning of the triggers a bit off in my hands).

All in all though they should do like they've always done: keep the same controller, just make a few tweaks here and there.

user8586215525d ago

@zootang

more like nintendo create, sony perfect xD

IrishAssa5525d ago

Steel the 360's triggers and it just might be the greatest controller ever

BrianC62345525d ago

I agree. Sony's controller is great. Don't mess with it. Of course Microsoft had to redesign their controller. The Xbox controller was terrible. I haven't used the 360 controller but I doubt it's better than the PS3's controller. Leave what works alone. The only reason to mess with it would be if the PS4 has a system like Natal where you don't need a controller. I find it hard to believe a console in the next ten years will be good enough to completely dump the old controllers.

Elimin85525d ago

Don't fix it if it isn't broken. I would say the only alteration needed is to make it a bit bigger. not too big but people like me who got big hands get serious cramps playing with the current DS...

mindedone5525d ago

the size. I don't think anyone wants a huge revision, just mold improvements. The 3rd party controllers fix this problwm, but screw up everything else. The duel shock it just too well crafted in almost every other sense

mantisimo5525d ago

I totally agree but I think there should be 3 sizes, one for kids a little smaller than the present one (watching my little dude play by using the ball of his thumb on the left anologue stick makes me laugh) keep the present size for everyone happy with it now and a large one for dudes like us with big hands. But please don't change the layout or make it dil*o shaped.

JL5524d ago

@mantismo
That's actually a brilliant idea. Sizes. Cause I for one love the size of the playstation controller as it is (and the ergonomics and everything). Of course I do have smaller hands, so I can at least understand people with bigger hands wanting a bigger controller. Selling multiple sizes would be absolutely brilliant. Though it would be interesting going in to buy a PS4 at the store and the clerk has to ask your size lol or you can't get it cause they don't have your size in. I do like that idea though cause I don't want the size of the controller changed.

DigitalHorror815524d ago

Change the R2 L2 buttons into triggers like the ones you can clip on. Change nothing else.

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Downtown boogey5525d ago

Move, anyone?
That's the next thing right there!

secksi-killer5525d ago

the dualshock is good for footie and fighting games. but for shooting, driving and action games, i personally think that the 360 is better.

Darkstorn5525d ago

I think the PS3 controller needs concave L2/R2 buttons to more closely resemble triggers.

The only other thing I can think of is to make it possible to switch the D-pad and left thumbstick on the fly, like a click-out, click-in sort of deal. More customization options are always the right way to go.

f7897905525d ago

Like this gen they made the R2 and L2 buttons squeeze in differently. Now all they need to do is make them curve outward so there's no finger slipping.

Comet5525d ago

That boomerang controller "prototype" was a PLAYSTATION ONE controller!

I have one that looks exactly like it.. except it's PS1 only, wired, and doesn't have 2 analog sticks...!!! Oh, and it's hideous.

Legosz5525d ago

I said nothing about resistance of anaologs. I mean they should curve them so our thumbs stay on better.

BattleAxe5525d ago

Hell no, do not do anything to the PS controller!!! Its been the best controller for the past 15 years.

Raf1k15525d ago (Edited 5525d ago )

After having used a 360 controller for my PC I loved it and then used a DS3 when I got a PS3. I have to admit the 360 controller is great and the ergonomic design is just the best but the DS3s button layout can't be beaten for all round gaming. I also like the fact that I can have a finger resting over L1, L2, R1 and R2 whereas with the 360 controller that's hard to do and not very comfortable.

The only thing I think they need to improve is the shape of the controller to make it more ergonomic and change the material used for the R2 and L2 buttons as fingers do slip a bit. Oh yeh, bundle trigger attachments with each controller.

edit: I think the D-Pad could also be improved as it's much better than the 360 but still not good enough for me to want to use when playing a fighting game.

edit2: A friend of mine was telling me that Sony had once tried inverted analogue sticks and also mentioned that the American market didn't like them.

Theonik5525d ago

Only thing i would like with DS4 is triggers similar to the Gamecube.
Also yeah i hate it now that you can't get more than 3 bubbles. All that wor gone now >.>

ReservoirDog3165525d ago

I kinda like the DS3 design. Been working perfectly for me for what like 10 years? I hope they don't.

silvacrest5524d ago

i couldn't agree more

the new bubble system....just sucks and the dualshock 3 is fine as his, what really needs a redesign is the 360s D pad

mastiffchild5524d ago

God, I hope they don't change it! If they DO then, at least, allow a DS4 as well as any new controller. People are so used to the design that, as in my case, other controllers just don;'t feel as comfy or natural to use. I often put my problems with the 360 pad down to the fact it's not symmetrical and feel it could be laid out in a way that suits right handed gamers but realise that a lot of people really love the design too.

A bit of choice won't hurt though and as long as they don't shut the door on the Dualshock design it's all good-the new one could prove just as good, better even , and more long lasting. Who knows, but again, choice would be great.

likedamaster5524d ago

Everyone seems to be in agreement that the L/R buttons and triggers need to go. Here's to hoping they do just that.

IdleLeeSiuLung5524d ago (Edited 5524d ago )

This comes down to 99% preference!

The only thing I would add is, the PS3 controller needs their triggers fixed as my fingers keep sliding down it accidentally pressing it and more ergonomically designed. My hands tend to cramp more on the PS3 controller.

The former can somewhat be fixed with RealTriggers though.

SaberEdge5524d ago

I think the DS3 is great. I do think, however, that there might be some ergonomic improvements that could be made, and I think the L2 and R2 could be improved as well. The analogue sticks feel great to me and I actually prefer their convex design over the concave of other controllers. The buttons all feel great as well. So, improve the "triggers" and the overall ergonomic design and I think it will be even better.

Commander TK5524d ago

no, don't do it. It would make a lot of gamers upset. Although I think the arms should be longer, it have a nice bench at the back, give the triggers a little curve (whatever the heck it's called) so that your fingers won't slide off of it and maybe make something that would put an analog stick where the d-pad is, kinda like the Atari 7200. When I hold the PS3 controller, it feels that I'm balancing it and it also feels that my hand is gonna get destroyed. That's just me, maybe because I play plenty of shooters?

If SCE would do that, I think a lot more Xbox owners would switch to Playstaion. For those of you who want a PS3 controller with the same layout as the 360 one, I'd recommend the Shadow controller, it's great!

Heisenberg5524d ago

Yeah just the triggers, maybe make the handles slightly longer, but not a redesign, there's no call for one.

Bubble Buddy5524d ago

As everyone says, the only flaw in the DS3 is the L2 and R2 buttons.

Steve_05524d ago

I think the dualshock is pretty perfect, maybe tweak the shape, the triggers and the resistance of the analogue sticks. Then again, I thought the SNES controller was the height of technological achievement back in the day... a d pad, 4 face buttons! AND shoulder buttons! with smooth curves so much better than the boxy NES pad that cut into palms... to be young again...

SPACEBALL 15524d ago (Edited 5524d ago )

the ps3 controller is basically fine. i just wish it was a little bigger or maybe a different shape. the other day my hands and knuckles were aching while i was playing uncharted.

Kurt Russell5524d ago

PS3 controller is too small for my hands. Xbox one sits nicer out of the two. 360 for shooting PS3 for Racing/Sports sims.

avengers19785524d ago

First let me say there will not be a PS4 for awhile; both Nintendo, and Xbox will have new systems before sony. Now the controller hasn't changed since they came out with a playstation, and really It's perfect it fits comfortably in hand, and all the buttons are nice and easy to hit. I've owned Playstation products since the very first day, and I would hate if they changed the controller.

amigaman5524d ago

I do agree with the article, some improvements are needed to the controller. I do believe that the analog stick should be made concave. This would improve grip while playing dual analog games, in my case, when I play Super Stardust HD for a while, my fingers slip and I need to readjust. Also, they need to do something to prevent hand cramping, and I know that most of us got cramps in our hand using the controller. Everything else seems right for me.

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mrv3215525d ago

No, I haven't found my PS3 controller to be a problem. It's a reason why it's stayed the same for this long, because it works.

striped945525d ago

I definitely agree. I don't think the layout could get any better.

mrv3215525d ago (Edited 5525d ago )

It could get better, ever controller can. But for the foreseeable future I don't think Sony could do much.

You could a PSone ONLY player a PS3 dualshock 3 and they'll know what to do. The R2/L2 can be modified I suppose but that's not really a redesign now.

I prefer the convex analogue stick by far I must say, I also prefer the layout with it almost being a mirror image on both sides.

I think the PS3 controller is best controller on the market, with rechargable batteries and all that built it. Sure some might prefer the 360 on for FPS but even then the PS3 may only be lacking SLIGHTLY behind... while if it's a fighter the PS3 one is superior by a noticeable amount.

Build in the PSeye noise cancelling MIC into the controller and add some buttons to control it like the headset, that would be great and fairly easy. It'd add weight but most of all MICS! It'd be a great project. Imagine on the base of the controller you have 2 mics (for noise cancelling) and on the top, left to the USB you have a mute button and a mic sensitivity up an down button.

Steve_05524d ago

I have to say, theres something in that idea of integrating mics... but I think bundled headsets are the way to go, no mechanical moving parts (remember them controllers be vibrating! you dont wanna have a small buzz in the background of all your games do you?), and you also get the benefit of a speaker in your ear. Have team radio on the headset and dedicate environmentals and music to the surround sound.

ELite_Ghost5525d ago

just have a glowing PS button and it'll be perfect :D

xYLeinen5525d ago

Don't even try to change the controller Sony.

ELite_Ghost5524d ago

u know about the triggers add on thing for the DS3??
They should have that they feel really nice

JonnyBigBoss5525d ago

No. My Father always used to say if it isn't broken don't fix it. The DS2/DS3 controllers are still the best controllers I've ever used.

Downtown boogey5525d ago

How about... "Improving" or "evolving"? What did your father say about those kinds of maneuvers?

Official General5525d ago (Edited 5525d ago )

I totally agree, do not fix what is not broken. Too many times people don't understand this and they ruin things in the end. I think the PS2 and PS3 controller is near perfect, it works totally fine, there is no need to change anything.

hennessey865524d ago

i have big hands and the ps3 controler is uncomfortable for me to hold for long periods of time the 360 control feels more natural to hold they need to make the ps3 control slightly bigger and change the layout of the analogue sticks and improve the triggers it already has the best d pad

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted6d ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast6d ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay6d ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted6d ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl34856d ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK6d ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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Sony Aims To Sell 15 Million PS5 Units This Year, but Is Shifting Focus to Monthly Active Users

Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki and CFO Lin Tao talked about the state of the PlayStation business and the strategy and targets going forward, including how they're responding to the tariffs.

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1Victor48d ago

I wonder how the USA tariffs war will affect that projection. 🤔

S2Killinit48d ago (Edited 48d ago )

I think they take that into consideration when they announce their projections. Currently, after the xbox price increase, the PRO is cheaper than the series x! That is ridiculous, and it can’t last.

darthv7247d ago

you keep saying that but the price of a PS5 Pro is S699.99 (US) and the price of a Series X is $599.99 (US)

S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

The series x with 2 TB storage space is more expensive than PS5 PRO which also has 2 TB storage space.

darthv7247d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Oh so you are pitting a regular Pro with a special edition X... got it. If you are going so far as trying to compare apples to apples... please add in the optical drive and stand to the Pro. Seeing as the X has both of those by default.

I will help you if you are unable to do so.
PS5 Pro 2tb: $699.99, Optical Drive: $79.99, Stand: $29.99 = $809.97
Xbox Series X Galaxy Black Special Edition 2TB: $729.99

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S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. The series X with 2TB storage and much weaker, is… more expensive! So yeah, Im pointing out that fact.

Also, the PRO does not require a stand.

Ps: regular series 2TB is $749 (where did u get 729?)

darthv7247d ago

Its right here on the official XB site: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Okay, so no stand for the Pro, but you might still want the optical drive. So $779.98 vs $729.99. A properly outfitted Pro is still more $$ than a 2tb X.

S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Do I need to mention that the series x is not nearly as powerful as the PS5 PRO?

And no, the PS5 PRO runs just fine without a drive, and people don’t have to buy the drive right away, assuming they want it.

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drivxr48d ago

I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU.

RaiderNation48d ago

Because that's where the real money is made, in microtransactions.

Profchaos48d ago (Edited 48d ago )

People are spending less time playing is a typical trigger for this.

The less time spent playing the less likely you are to spend more money on games and services including subs or even the next console.

Increased engagement equals more money.

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DarXyde47d ago

Same reason Microsoft does it: it looks better to investors and it's a solution when unit sales slow down.

Personally, I'm not a fan of this metric; and by using it, you're kind of signaling that you're moving into the "This is a PlayStation" era.

Z50147d ago

Because the PS4 also has users and not necessarily sales

Obscure_Observer45d ago

"I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU."

Because they´d finally realized that MS wasn´t wrong after all.

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Sony Announces Large Profits Growth for PlayStation; Expects Further Wins in Current Fiscal Year

Sony announced its financial results for the fiscal year 2024, and things are certainly looking up, despite a decline in PS5 sales.

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CrimsonWing6948d ago

Expect sh*t to slow down if prices aren’t kept in check.

Redgrave48d ago

Who downvotes the truth?

Even PSN itself is too damn high.jpg

S2Killinit48d ago

Gamepass is already at 20$ per month if im not mistaken.

toxic-inferno47d ago

@neutralgamer1992

Not all of us. I'm a big PlayStation fan, and have been since the PSOne. But I can't begin to defend what's happening currently.

At least Nintendo release a large number of games from their major franchises. Sony is just not banking on their established franchises, and yet are raising prices. Not great.

S2Killinit48d ago

Im pretty sure we are going to see a price increase for PRO. I mean think about it, its currently cheaper than xbox series x! That cannot last.

Eonjay47d ago

I'm absolutely sure we will not see a price increase. I don't think we should 'expect' to see price increase because it just adds validity to what Nintendo and Microsoft have done.

darthv7247d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Sorry to pop that bubble but the Pro is not cheaper than a series x... generally speaking (like you are). It is cheaper than one specific version, and doing so by not including the optical drive and stand like the X has by default.

So keep on trying to convince people you are right when everyone knows it's quite the opposite. A stock Pro is $699.99 and a stock X is $599.99. A special edition galactic black 2tb X is $729.99. And if you really want to compare apples to apples... adding the aforementioned optical drive and stand brings that Pro to $809.97 and then they would be on equal footing.

Twisting truths to fit a narrative... I expect better from you S2.

S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. And the series X with 2TB is more expensive. Which in my opinion is insane conseidering how much more powerful the PRO is. The PS5PRO does not need a stand, it can be used without a stand.

TheKingKratos48d ago

So the Pro is not offering any push in sales at all ?

CrashMania48d ago

It's still an expensive, niche product ultimately. And they exceeded their sales projections for units sold by half a million.

lawox48d ago

"18.5 million units have been shipped during the full fiscal year. This is actually ahead of the 18 million units target set by the company."

They beat their yearly estimate. It's not broken down by device, but it's clearly performing well enough. Since it's been released it's consistently been the second best selling SKU on Amazon only after the the Slim with disc.

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Bathyj47d ago

18 million a year is in the toilet?
I remember when 10 was considered good
Hell Microsoft would take that right now.
Probably pay $100b for it.

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BeHunted48d ago

If their profits fall next quarter, we'll probably see more price hikes. I can't imagine having to pay £20 a month for PlayStation Plus.

S2Killinit48d ago

I think gamepass is already paying that much.

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drivxr48d ago (Edited 48d ago )

Decline in hardware sales.
Behind on lifetime sales and decline in first party sales.
Third party content and PSN came through to save the day.
Things will improve starting with the next Ghost game.

Hopefully a steady flow of first party content by end of '25

rlow148d ago (Edited 48d ago )

I guess you get downvoted for stating facts from Sony’s own lips. What I’m curious about is what their top games of the year were and how much Xbox games contributed to the increase?

CrashMania48d ago

Well, generally 3rd party publisher games contribute the most anyway, so no different to capcom, EA and so on contributing to this figure.

lawox47d ago

That's because the report is actually really good.

They beat the console sales estimate that they set last year March, they have increased users both due to the record numbers of PS4 users and strong PS5 sales which is leading to great profits in sales and user spend.

This report is about the financial health of the PlayStation brand and as a platform PlayStation is stronger than ever. Heck they even have Microsoft putting their biggest franchises on the platform.

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S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Well, the facts in the article are positive. Nothing wrong with his comment, but in my opinion it doesn't correctly indicate all the facts and nuances that give context to the reality of things. I downvoted for that only.

Make sense?

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Lightning7747d ago

This is exactly what happened to Xbox year's ago. They had no first party and started seeing decline in 1st party sales, which effected their third party games which eventually effected their console sales. A slow decline across the board.

Calm down PS fans I'm not saying PS is becoming like old Xbox. I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. Look how Xbox finally has compelling first party and things are on a up swing(despite years going on a downswing). I know thanks to PS releases which helps a ton, (which is why Xbox hardware only dropped 6% instead of 30+% like it usually does) The point still stands despite what Genz Trends may go, first party and compelling games sell hardware and software still. Sony's financial quarter is an example of this, of what lower First party output looks like.

No matter they'll be right back on track in due time any time especially with DS2 (not my type of game but I know many like it) and Yotei. They're not Xbox and let things get bad for so many years on end.

crazyCoconuts47d ago

"I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. "
First party is mostly relevant for the sole purpose of creating EXCLUSIVES that are needed to stay competitive. With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important. PlayStation as a platform now has free reign to profit without the high expense of needing exclusive first party titles.

red2tango47d ago

Sony has been very lazy with 1st party games compared to the PS4 era. And even the PS4 era was nothing compared to the PS3 era in terms of games.

S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

We have Ghost and Intergalactic coming. And then Marathon which is not exclusive to PlayStation. I think Covid and that chip shortage put a speedbump in game development because game manufacturers dont want even more risk that their game will arrive to too little hardware, but the games are starting to show up.

Lightning7747d ago

"With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important."

Absolutely not. If that was the case then Nintendo would put Mario on Sega Genesis and Sonic on Super Nintendo. I know things are way different 30+ years later but not much has really changed in terms of exclusives and their impact on hardware. Especially early in the console life cycle.

Sony made all the money this quarter handover fist. Profits isn't a issue for them right now. I was just saying lower hardware sales and lower first party sales will hurt them or any console manufacturer of they don't have the compelling games in the long run. Just like it hurt Xbox. IF Sony keeps up not having lower first part output. Which we know they're not.

crazyCoconuts47d ago

Well no big exclusives in the last two years yet PS is doing great. What are people gonna do? Buy an Xbox?

S2Killinit47d ago

I agree with you. But they have had plenty of exclusives so far. Has it been ideal? Nope. I have a feeling we are seeing a resurgence with the effects of covid and that chip shortage now behind us.

Lightning7747d ago

No it's just like 360 where they had no games yet ppl still bought it because they sold ppl on the games early on that gen the fans were locked in and invested. They were riding the good will and was dubbed the shooter, racer box. The games dried up and they never recovered from it which hurt them in the long run. Same here with PS they still make the big bucks because they had games early on and the fans locked in and will continue to lock in for a little while longer despite lacking in first party.

S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

I agree. But the problem with xbox was that for some crazy reason MS thought game development wasnt all that important to a platform holder. They literally did not fund games with their own studios. When they lost marketshare they couldnt justify paying for exclusives with large install bases making it too expensive. That is not the scenario with PlayStation.

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