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Baby Starves To Death While Parents Raise Virtual Child

A man and a woman have been arrested for letting their infant daughter starve to death while they raised a virtual child in the online game PRIUS. The Korean couple, known only as the Kims, returned home after a 12-hour gaming session at a "PC Bang" Internet parlor to find their baby dead. Tests confirmed the child had died of malnutrition.

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ClownBelt5597d ago

WTF? Those two are dumbasses.

AliTheBrit195597d ago

Yeah its about as sick as it gets, do they have capital punishment in Korea?

UnSelf5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

then who's goin to raise the virtual child?

nah but seriously this is disgusting but i wish ppl would lstop screaming death penalty at every turn like thats goin to somehow subdue ppl from doin outrageous crimes

These ppl should spend the rest of life in prison, allowed to live to remember the suffering the caused others.

Sadly, if Korea is anything like America, this may only be classified as Negligible Homicide and they may only get Murder 2 or even Man 1

pangitkqb5597d ago

And beat them up if they cry.

Greywulf5597d ago

"death penalty?
then who's goin to raise the virtual child?
"

Holy..#$@?#%@3... lol..you're going to hell..

mcnablejr5597d ago

i love the *insert clearly innapropriate comment* followed by ''nar but seriously''..

FamilyGuy5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

The kid was left at home alone?

Why didn't the chicks parents feed it while they were gone so long?

Geez, they admitted to feeding it rotten powered milk too...

mcnablejr5597d ago

or was it meant to be a pun?

Megaton5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

I remember a very similar article awhile back about some WoW addicts who let their baby starve to death cause they didn't wanna stop playing. These instances both remind me of the scene in Trainspotting where the woman discovers that her baby is dead after much neglect from doing junk. Very sad.

deafwing5597d ago

take your pick -

inhuman - Lacking kindness, pity, or compassion; cruel.
inhumane - Lacking and reflecting lack of pity or compassion;

according to thefreedictionary.com so perhaps they fit both.

sikbeta5597d ago

AH...GOD... couple of Idiots!..Now Zealots and Dinosaurs will point with their finger and blame everything Game-Related

Pebz5597d ago

"I am for the death penalty. Who commits terrible acts must get a fitting punishment. That way he learns the lesson for the next time."
- Britney Spears

Not like such punishment will prevent this from happening again in other cases either, because I'm pretty sure someone who forgets that their baby is home alone and starving is not really in a clear state of mind and "oh, I could get the death penalty for this" is the last thing they are thinking about.

I'm suspecting there is more to it than "evil parents that deserve to die", like perhaps them raising a virtual daughter cause they didn't know how to raise a real one and were trying to learn. Or perhaps just plain gaming addiction, which I'm sure most here have experienced at some level, that at a serious level can make someone forget pretty much everything else.

Such things happen, and no punishment or examples set will change that, because in most cases it's a symptom of a problem, not the root of the problem itself.

Raz5597d ago

Explain to me the point of raising a virtual child when you have a REAL one at home, starving. If you think you can learn anything about raising children from a simulator, you obviously have never had children.

You can point to this as a result of a larger issue, but that doesn't change the simple fact of the matter: they fed a real baby rotten milk and left it to starve while they got their game on. A couple of unemployed deadbeats living with their parents.

And I realize how disconnected we get reading things over the Internet, but try and understand that real life is a bit more visceral - 'these things just happen' is not something you say in connection with the death of a child. Everything "just happens"; actually living it is something else entirely.

Pebz5597d ago

"Explain to me the point of raising a virtual child when you have a REAL one at home, starving. If you think you can learn anything about raising children from a simulator, you obviously have never had children.

You can point to this as a result of a larger issue, but that doesn't change the simple fact of the matter: they fed a real baby rotten milk and left it to starve while they got their game on. A couple of unemployed deadbeats living with their parents."

Well, it's not about what I think or what you think, it's about what those parents think, isn't it? Perhaps they never had children before and thought they could learn something from it, as you yourself said such a person could do. The point is we don't know what they were thinking, we can't simply superimpose our situation and knowledge on other people and judge them from that perspective. Not if we want to know why and what actually happened, rather than just get some empty satisfaction because they got punished for it.

"And I realize how disconnected we get reading things over the Internet, but try and understand that real life is a bit more visceral - 'these things just happen' is not something you say in connection with the death of a child. Everything "just happens"; actually living it is something else entirely."

I didn't say these things "just happen", as in "I don't care", I said these things happen whether punishment is given or not, because they are not necessarily acts of "evil people", but perhaps a symptom of something deeper.

ButterToast5597d ago

reason #562 why some people shouldn't be allowed to procreate.

JsonHenry5597d ago

forced castration and whatever the normal penalty for murder is where they live is what I would throw at them.

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mikeslemonade5597d ago

I didn't know Bungie was Korean and his last name is Kim.

Kurt Russell5596d ago

Hehe, sound like a rubbish version of the movie Trainspotting!

Those of you who have responded death penalty are chumps... Nobody should be able to decide that, especially a spotty 15 year old.

Terry Tate5596d ago

They let the child starve to death. They KNOWINGLY fed it ROTTEN POWDERED MILK!! They frakin SPANKED a 9 month old baby becuase it was crying.
I'm so furious right now. I'm a single father of three. All my children live with me and they are the most important thing in the world. How could these people do this?
Some feel the death peanlty is too harsh. It's not. Period. These people deserve to be put to death, in much the same way that they killed their baby. Just put them in a cell with some rotten food, beat them regularly and let them waste away. Good riddance.

mastiffchild5596d ago

No, killing these idiots would not be the right thing to do. surely, if we want to stop future happenings of a similar nature we must find out the whys and whens and hows of the case. See if we can't find things an outsider could spot in other families where this is at risk of happening and maybe even create an atmosphere where people, like these, with serious problems feel able to come forward for help in raising their actual, real life child/children, no? We kill them we lose any chance of them making anything even slightly better for them and throw away any chance we have of learning why this happens and preventing it happening again.

Honestly, I'm of the mind that two wrongs don't make a right and a society that punishes violence with violence sends some very dangerously mixed messages to it's citizens anyway. However, on top of that I feel it's like throwing the baby out with the bath water to do so when understanding and prevention of future tragedies could come about through intelligently working with these fools. There has to be triggers that make this happen and signs that could warn us if and when it is, no? Surely that's a better option than just letting them off the hook with an early death which saves them from ever facing up to what they did to their own child-I'd prefer we find SOME small shred of good in the mess and let them think about what they did for the rest of their lives. Let it eat at them.

Christ, we don't know everything about them. for all we know either or both could be mentally sufficient or psychotic or anything and need to know just what went n and, more importantly in many ways , why. then, amybe, some child in the future may be a little luckier. RIP little one, God bless. Sad, sad times we live in.

SuperStrokey11235596d ago

This makes me so freaking angry, I would give anything up just to make my little girl smile once, and these losers go and kill their baby. It just makes me want to scream.

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Farmhand5597d ago

it makes me sick to my stomach that my favorite hobby (video games) can lead to the death of a helpless child. What I would like to see done to these people cant be described in detail here at N4G or on any other site.

Bubbles is correct though, these people need to live a long life in prison, with the walls of their cell covered with pics of the child.

cyborg69715597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

Why let them live off of other people in jail for eighty years for dumb. You conservatives need to quit stagnating progression and get a back bone.

Megaton5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

"You conservatives need to quit stagnating progression and get a back bone."

^ lolwut

Pro-DP is typically a Republican/conservative point of view.
Anti-DP is typically a Democrat/liberal point of view.

Kurylo3d5597d ago

i dont know what democrats uve been talkn too, but all the dems i know(including myself ) are pro death penalty....

I mean really.. put them in prison and remind them of their child to make them sad? Really?

That same child they fed rotten food too.. beat and starved to death... Do you really think they care about the childs death.

Darkfocus5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

when a convicts on death row they can file as many appeals as they want and usually with a state appointed lawyer too, and those appeals have to be fought with by a another state appointed lawyer and then a judge also payed by the state has to decide the case. this process continues for years and there's also the chance that an innocent person is being sent to their death.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009...

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo...

http://www.deathpenalty.org...

cyborg69715597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

Yea well then shorten the appeals system and do you know how much it costs counties and states to house one inmate per year? 21,000.00 times oh say 60 65 years what do you come up with? Your argument doesn't hold water.

Below I wish I could but I'm at work. I'll check them out when I get home.

Darkfocus5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

maybe you should read some of the links before hastily jumping to conclusions

second links got a hole bunch examples with data backing it up

nefertis5597d ago

I hope the parents dont drop the soap if they live in prison. Playb3yond

FadeToBlack5596d ago

Let them spend the rest of their life in jail??
Why, so tax payer can pay to keep scum like this alive?
Not only should they be executed, but they should also suffer
the same torture as their poor child.

mastiffchild5596d ago

And what happens when society murders the wrong person for a crime you people deem worthy of a death penalty?What then? Have we arrived at a place where judicial practise is infallible? not when I last checked we didn't and not even in the US or UK where how much cash you have at the start of a trial can have just as much bearing on how you get on as your guilt or innocence. Seriously, how many people get banged up for crimes they never committed, were incapable of judging or didn't even understand? You just can't go with a death penalty under these circumstances.

Personally I don't see how we could EVEN if the court process was perfect 100% of the time as a society which punishes violence with more violence is sending out some very odd messages about what's right and what's wrong, isn't it? Plus how can we learn and prevent future crimes if we just off the culprits without ever knowing why they did things, how they did things and what the early signs were so we might prevent future crimes? The cost of keeping prisoners alive and the cost of DR and executing them is of no importance at all if we can fins a way to save just one life by researching the miscreants.

There's also the mental state of the culprits to investigate:what illnesses effect psychotic behaviour, what mental problems can make these things happen and what can we see that may help us stop things going so far in other cases? I just see no real sense in falling for our base desire for revenge when there's chances to stop other, awful things from happening with a different approach. Don't make what happens to the killer the important thing-it isn't and they aren't. We should, instead, treasure what we can glean from these individuals while keeping them alive in the hope that they start to understand their evil and feel the guilt all their lives. Keeping them alive also shows a merciful society that is progressive about stopping these actions from happening in the future and doesn't show our kids that violence is an answer to anything-importantly, it also allows us to compensate and make up in some way to those who get jailed erroneously in these cases as if we'd killed them we'd be guilty of a crime they didn't even commit and would have no way of rectifying our mistake-to me that shows we shouldn't be putting ourselves in the position of Gods turning people's live's on and off.

Honestly guys, to me finance doesn't come into it and a lifetime of guilt is a better and, at least reversible, punishment then turning on the gas tanks. We have a bigger responsibility towards the future than a death penalty allows and facing that is much more important than allowing ourselves to sink to the level of vengeful killers as well as the original culprits. That's without even thinking about the rights and wrongs on a one to one basis of taking the life of even the most awful human being(see Orwell's piece about the sentenced prisoner on his way to his death if you're interested as it's an amazing bit of writing)and going from a purely "what's best" point of view-for our society.I don't even believe in deterrents for these kinds of acts as nothing seems to stop them punishment wise.

I just don't see any good coming from killing murderers, or killing anyone, for that matter, when we're all fallible, our courts are fallible and there's so much we can learn front them to help prevent things happening in similar ways in the future.

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PS3and4_HAS_GAMES5597d ago

that shyt is not even funny man..thats a child we are talking about dumb @ss..i hope the parents starve in jail and die

cyborg69715597d ago

Yeah have some common sense,but then again it's not that common is it.

weazel5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

Ghost, take your pseudo-intellectual sh*t somewhere else man. Yeah, yeah. Everyone understands the deep pain and profundity of your 'mutterings' but this article could do without your brand of waffle. This is just fu*ked up, and the parents should be dealt with as torturing murderers, 'cause that is what they are. It's not gamings fault, not society, or any other 'easy' target. The finger of blame points squarely at these two fuc*ers, square in the eyes.

2FootYard5597d ago (Edited 5597d ago )

This should have been left blank. I f**ked up big. Castration is the answer.

Oh and uh don't take advice from the cyborg fellow. He gets high by inhaling the chemicals in computer dusters.

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Nitrowolf25597d ago

dumba$$es
that is just sick, raising a fake baby over yours wow

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The Real Enemy of Gaming Isn’t DEI. It’s the CEO

From Horse Armor to Mass Layoffs: The Price of Greed in Gaming. Inside the decades-long war on game workers and the players who defend them.

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jambola21d ago

maybe a real enemy is people who use terms like "the real enemy"
there can be more than 1 bad thing, t's not like a kids show with 1 big bad

senorfartcushion19d ago

This is very much a “dummy who volunteers themselves to the middle” comment.

The real enemy is a common phrase, people use it all the time.

Calm down.

jambola19d ago

i'm very calm
you seem very upset however

Notellin18d ago

You don't seem calm at all. Don't take this so seriously, you seem desperate responding to others defending your opinion that lacks any value or critical thought.

jambola18d ago

stop projecting
i'm not desperately dong anything, i'm tapping at keys on my keyboard bud

PapaBop18d ago

It's not like kids show with one bad guy? I present to you.. Bobby Kotick

ABizzel118d ago (Edited 18d ago )

DEI was never the problem and it was an ignorant take to begin with.

DEI is why games like Kena Bridge of Spirits, South of Midnight, and Ghost of Tsushima exist.

DEI is why we have a huge resurgence in Japanese, Chineses, and Korean developers producing games like Stellar Blade, Black Myth, and why Nintendo & Sony exist.

DEI is why more and more games have HUGE accessibility options with both Sony and MS fully behind this.

DEI was never a bad thing, the entire purpose of DEI is representation of all people, genders, disabilities, etc…

The problem was people used DEI as a default derogatory term to describe what they believed was forced representation, which allowed colorist, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic fools to run away with the negative DEI narrative.

jambola18d ago

you don't get to decide other people's motivations
sorry to break it to you

ABizzel117d ago (Edited 17d ago )

To each their own, however, nothing you said invalidates why some people take offense to DEI incorrectly.

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Sciurus_vulgaris21d ago

Executives seem to often have an obsession with perpetual revenue growth. There is always a finite amount of consumers for a product regardless of growth. Additionally, over investment is another serious issue in gaming.

Killer2020UK19d ago

The fact that they also rarely have any real expertise in game development compounds things. They'll look at what's been successful elsewhere, lack the knowledge to properly understand why they have been successful and then force a team to 'reproduce' their badly interpreted idea of that success.

We see it so often with sequels to games that were successful too. The team are left well alone, they have a break through hit and all of sudden the money men descend on the IP and completely railroad the dev team's ideas. Usually winds up being 'make the same game but MORE'

LoveSpuds18d ago

This is true throughout all of the corporate and public sector organisations to be honest. CEO's generally move amongst the corporate world without any need to have experience of a particular industry, they simply need to rely on their senior leadership credentials. A CEO of a retail giant will just as easily transition to a CEO role in the energy sector for example.

Not defending CEOs here to be clear, I think it's a huge part of the reason the western world is so fucked up. CEOs don't need to care about the sector they work in, in fact it's better if they don't care if they want to screw everyone to make profits.

GhostScholar19d ago

Companies don’t hire executives to break even. If the goal is breaking even then why start the company in the first place.

Soy19d ago

That's understood; it's getting record profits and expecting to always beat those record profits, and seeing anything less as a total failure. Then they lay people off and raise prices to reach those record profit levels again, just to sate shareholders. It's setting expectations way too high just to spike share prices, then inevitably falling short. It's feeling entitled to being more successful than everyone else. It's the CEOs doing all this to boost their own bonuses.

ABizzel118d ago

Growth benefits the company’s profits and therefore the company’s stock if publicly traded, which pleases the shareholders making them more and more rich, which is why Growth is always at the forefront of the vast majority of any publicly traded company.

More growth = More Money and the people at the top want all the money they can get. I can’t really blame them anyone would love to see their profits go from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, to multi-millions it’s almost like a gambling addiction.

But it also goes to show someone how morals can go out the window for a lot of these people, and how amazing some CEOs are when they catch this early and provide a balance solution that takes complete care of their employees across the board while keeping the business sustainable IE: Insomniac Games ALWAYS on the best places to work list. The rest of the industry could learn.

jambola20d ago

honestly, the "real" enemy of gaming, is ourselves
if nobody bought horse armor, shitty dlc would have died almost overnight
if we stood firm and nobody bought games from companies that were bad with layoffs, it would be solved
we're the idiots supporting awful business practices, we are the ones enouraging it

TiredGamer19d ago

I think the reality that we don't want to convince ourselves of is that without the rise of "horse armor" and DLC, game budgets would have essentially stagnated (smaller teams/smaller games), or game prices would have risen much more dramatically than they have. There was an incessant drive for bigger worlds, infinite detail, and hundreds of hours of "gameplay" over the last two decades, that while perhaps a natural evolution of things, needed a suitable funding stream to accomplish.

HyperMoused19d ago

What...CEOs make tens of millions and that doesnt include SLT etc etc...we now have multiple editions of games, in game currency, MT's, battle passes.....and what do we get..worse game than what was coming out 20 years ago....dont drink the cool aid, its this nickel and dime crap that is absolutely leading us to gaming destruction.

senorfartcushion19d ago

This is the worst possible answer to this conundrum. Blaming the masses is blaming the only people who are constantly “told” to buy.

Consumers are the only ones not to blame here. People make their own choices all the time. Disney movies are bombing and DEInis being blamed. Has that been enough to put Disney out of business? No and it never will.

Christopher19d ago

Disagree. Businesses are able to do what they do because people are bad consumers and don't think critically about purchases. Disney got away with doing shit stuff for years and it's just the last year where people got tired of it. It's not like it didn't work for 5 years or so for Disney to do the things they've done. They'll just move onto another way to get people to see movies and it will be just as bad but more profitable until people wake up and realize it.

TiredGamer19d ago

Consumerism drives business behavior. It's not so much "blaming" as it is observing behavior. The point I'm making is that the direction that games have gone are driven by the spending. Consumers are spending on DLC and they are driving the expectation of more glitz and padded out (lengthier) games. If they continue to pay, they will continue to drive that direction until a threshold is reached that forces a change in behavior.

senorfartcushion19d ago

Corporate advertising is the most powerful force on the planet.

This is N4G for god sake, every day there are arguments between people who are Team Xbox and Team PlayStation because they’ve been convinced that having an identity built on paying money to Sony and Microsoft matters more than having one as individual gamers who can play whatever they want.

And THEN we get to the corporate advertising part: to play whatever you want is to sink MORE into the advertising pits, making it so that you can more than one specific product.

jambola19d ago

ah you're right
they were told to buy it, it's clearly impossible to avoid that
if enough people stopped supporting, it would stop
disney not stopping would only be because enough people didn't stop

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victorMaje19d ago

Agreed. I’ve been saying for years, announce you won’t be buying the upcoming game because of the practices of the previous game, then you only have to stick to your guns once, see how quickly things change for the better.

We have to unite in what we shouldn’t purchase.

jambola19d ago

just imagine a world, fifa came out worse, nobody buys the next one until they see proof it's better and stick to it
or games being forced online for single player and nobody buys it
things would change so fast

HyperMoused19d ago

Just like scooby doo, you have shown us the real monsters are us

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Inverno19d ago

Greed and greedy people have and always will be the main issue for everything wrong in the world. Everything is a product to be exploited for monetary gain. Even when there are things that could help progress us along for the sake of making our lives easier that thing must be exploited for monetary gains. Anything that tells you otherwise is propaganda to make you complicit.

coolfool19d ago

I've never thought "DEI" (although the way most people use it doesn't match it's real definition) is the problem with games. Good games have continued to be good when they have a diverse cast, and likewise, bad games have continued to be bad. There isn't a credible example I've seen where a diverse cast has been the direct cause of a game being bad.

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thorstein23d ago

I subscribed to this not knowing about how some of the proceeds go to St. Judes.

Really cool that some of the money goes there.

Even if people don't subscribe to the mag, it might bring people to the charity.

jznrpg23d ago

One of the main charities my wife and I donate to. They help a lot of children and being a parent of 5 children I can’t imagine what those parents go through. I’ll probably get a sub to GI because of St Jude and of course because I love video games.

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