Halo 3: Recon New Info and First Picture of Orbital Leaked

The Decemeber Issue from Game Informer has been leaked and we got the scans showing off some new info on Halo 3 Recon and the upcoming Halo 3 Mythic Map pack.

[tnkGODimATHEIST]

Purely awesome thank you

[I am Legend]

Yup !

[Bodhi]

There is no way I'm going to strain my eyes to read all of that. Judging from concept art and gameplay pictures, it get's a thumbs up from me regardless.

Day 1 if it's less then $50

[BLuKhaos]

Nice.

[big shadow]

looks awesome

[tnkGODimATHEIST]

When is halo 3 recon coming out?

[oriol003]

Map Pack like IN February

Halo 3 Recon in Novemeber 09

[EyeShield 21]

Im not a big Halo lover . But I bet alot of folks will be pleased with this.

Im off to another thread with my MAX SPEED!!!

[oriol003]

Going to be Awesome

[tortella]

That looks like a PS2 game now

that looks like crap

see the gameplay images below

[oriol003]

Are you stupid or somethings this are Magazine Scans not HIGH QUality screenshots

[fufotrufo]

haha poor tortilla

it looks better than Resistane 2
hhahahaha

[tnkGODimATHEIST]

Now that i finish reading it. ITS AMAZING

[sniper4534]

OHH BABY OHHHHHHH HOLY s#IT THOSE GRAPHICS ARE BETTER THAN KILLZONE 2 LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GOTY 09 HAHAHAHAHAH

[oriol003]

Don't be stupid you "Sony Droid" its an Expansion to a game that came out in 2007.

[karlostomy]

Couldn't be too hard could it?

[oriol003]

Considering 2/3 of all 360 owners have Halo 3 it shouldn't be to hard.

[iClutch]

this will outsell LBP guaranteed

[pavarotti]

lol your gonna be on one bubble for saying that.

but, halo recon will be the bigget selling game in 09 on any console. if anyone wants to take the bet? then pm me! the only ps3 game that mite compete in sales is killzone2. other than that, bungie and microsoft are gonna make a fortune.

[na2ru1]

or just last gen ports poop that sells?

Does that mean this game will be better than LBP?
FAIL

[SuperM]

While you may be right i wouldnt be to sure of it. Gran Turismo 5 says hi.

[tnkGODimATHEIST]

Damn I didn't know that many people had the game

[tnkGODimATHEIST]

killzone 2 is garbage

[gta2800]

Why? cause you won't get to play it on your 200 dollar console?

[Kush_Reaper]

So was your mum in bed, you dont see me too happy about it lol.

PLAY BEYOND NOT BEHIND

[tnkGODimATHEIST]

Only a PS3 Fanboy would disagree on my comment

[gta2800]

Not really, only a true 360 fan boy would think it's garbage cause he doesn't own a ps3 and he won't get to enjoy that masterpiece.

[snoopgg]

going to be the best shooter on a console for 2009!!!! This game is going to rock!!!!

[oriol003]

"Ignores User"

There it goes again

[iggypop123]

i havent touched my copy in 5 months. maybe this gets me to play

[iClutch]

yeah, ima start playing again once this comes out. Recon will save Gaylo.

[oriol003]

Yeah me neither with Fallout Far Cry Gears of War 2 Fable 2 I haven't had time to play it since July once the new map pack is out I am pretty sure I'm going back to Halo 3.

[iClutch]

amazing

[LittleBigKillzone]

To all the 360 owners, you guys are way to easy.. What i mean is this.. do you guys realize that MS just keeps alternating every year.. in 2006 it was Gears Of War, in 2007 it was Halo 3, this year in 2008 its Gears of War 2 and in 2009 you guessed it.. another Halo game.. Dont get me wrong, MS also puts out other exclusive titles like Fable 2 but they rely so much on just one or 2 huge franchises like Halo or Gears.

the PS3 might not have that one title that sells millions on one day but what they do have is a variety of different exclusives that atleast sell a million or more in the matter of a few months.. Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword,Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank and LBP soon have all sold a million or more over their life time.

Thats the big difference with sony and MS, MS just cares about money and money alone.. they figure they can keep alternating between Gears and Halo every year and their fanbase is so easy that they will buy it no matter what because of the name Gears Or Halo.. thats why in the long run the PS3 will WIN this gen, it might take 5 or 6 years but it will happen. MS cant keep releasing rehashes of Gears and Halo forever like they have been for the last 3 years so far.

[oriol003]

The only difference is that those Games are so ****** awesome and the Sequels are even more ***** awesome. Compare to all those ps3 games.

[Xi]

all you have to do is show them "something" then tell them it's coming and they'll be impressed.

[The BS Police]

You claim that Microsoft is jsut in it for money alone, then why is there alot of quality games on the Xbox 360? Why does Microsoft go out of there way to bring us these goods and services if they are just in it for the money when it costs them millions to get these products for their customers?

Why did Microsoft stay in the business after losing billions of dollars on the original Xbox?

It's no secret that Microsoft is in it for the money, but there is no doubt that Microsoft wants to do good for the gamers aswell... even though they tend to screw up from time to time like any other company.

As for alternating game franchises each year, whats the big deal? Aslong as it's a good game theres nothing wrong with it.

[DevastationEve]

Well...KillZone2 is the carrot on the string that dangles in front of you PS3 fans and leads you into each new year thinking that you're getting closer.

[oriol003]

BS POLICE well said my friend

[poopface1]

Ps3 has been around for a shorter time than 360. ps3 has had two resistance games already compared to one halo game on 360, so far. Ps3 has also had two motostorms and two ratchet and clanks. I dont see how you can say Microsoft depends on two franchises when sony makes sequels to their games faster than Microsoft.

The 360 has had the most success with new franchises this gen. The games with amazing sales on wii and ps3 are ALL franchises from last gen. Some new games do good on the other systems, but those get outsold by even some of the crappy games on the 360.

[littletad]

Taking your bubbles Littlebigkillzone :). Btw, post your comments in the open zone next time. That's where you belong.

And bs police nailed it, literally.

[No Way]

I agree with what The BS Police said.

I could care less if it's Halo in January, then Gears in March, then another Halo in May, then anther Gears in July and ect. As long as the games are good, then who cares?

[MONOLITHICIDE]

to Xi- how are you ganna say that all you have to do is show a game to ps3 fans and say its comming and were immpressed when all of you are doing the same thing for this game, yea it should be good but dont contradict yourself.

To The BS Police- yea microsoft is in it for the money and so is sony but I see alot more games comming out for the ps3 than the 360, i have fable and i was not impressed at all, and to say that microsoft gives quality goods and servises is retarded, do i need to say rrod. microsoft is more in for the money because they rushed out which could of been a good product but wanted the money, and how exactly are they going out of there way, by bring another halo, where are all the new ips, where are exactly are all these good quality games that you mention i dont see any, its halo and gears, and i guess fable, its alright. but i guess your retarded becauese at the end you say "but there is no doubt that Microsoft wants to do good for the gamers aswell..." by bringing the same game to the market come on bring something new your brain dead man, and yes i am a sony fan but i also have a 360, yes halo 1 was awesome, it was new and refreshing, halo 2 was alright it had multiplayer, but what exactly did halo 3 bring to the market nothing i had it it was fun for a little bit but its not as good as it was, it was just a graphics boost thats it.

[Rhoic]

PS3:

13 games that have sold over 1 million

360:

47 games that have sold over 1 million.

I think Microsoft's strategy is working.

[Traveler]

Oh yes, here we go with the usual PS3 fanboy nonsense: "Sony care about gamers and they don't care about making money at all--they are the noblest and most generous company in the world and all they care about is making PS3 fans happy." What a load of crap. All companies have to answer to their bottom line and the principle reason they are in business is to make money. I can't believe people would even have the audacity to attack Microsoft and turn around and act like Sony is some benign protector of the people. It's such nonsense. If you want to know the truth, Sony are one of the most anti-consumer companies out there. Think about the rootkit fiasco, stupid proprietary formats (atrac, memory stick, mini-disc, UMD, and on and on), exploding batteries, and their aggressive manoevours to kill off HD DVD. I'm not saying Sony are a horrible company, I am just saying that all companies have made mistakes and I think it is absurdly biased and unfair to criticize Microsoft's mistakes while completely overlooking Sony's.

[IcarusOne]

Sony doesn't have 5 or 6 years to win this fight with the PS3.

Considering their early claims about the PS3, the fact that the system is still STRUGGLING to keep up with 360...some might call that epic fail.

[Nicolator]

Dude i dont know what part of ur brain u are using to think but ... wait a second and read ur comment.. ponder on it and then pounder again.. now ask urself... "Do i make any sense at all?"

MS has 2 mega names its halo and its gears weather u like it or not for a every console has to have a game face .. a game that its it icon... Fact! look at nintendo, they got mario and guess what just the mention of mario aloooonneee without really anygames on the wii guess what they are leading both MS and Sony and its working well, MS game face has been Halo and now Gears is helping with the mantel of leadership, this is what gives a console its identity that is y u see the casuals easily seeing a wii and say .. "gush that is me... i like little cut ppl" and most hardcore see the 360 "sweeeett .. i wanna chainsaw me some badies and i love shooting ppl" not tryin to be a fanboy but from what u say it sounds like the ps3 has no game face..and i dont think they do, they only tried to adopt that thinking with R2 tryin to compete with halo ... well u can eat ur heart out coz guess what?... MS knows i repeat KNOWSSS how to market their stuff verrry welll so if they promote their main games that ppl bought the console for y are u hating.. shyt it is selling isnt it..

So go take a class in marketing or something i am sure there should be a uni near u.. look up... the phrase .. "TARGET AUDIENCE"

[Zulwarn]

even a 360 expansion game looks WAAAY BETTER THAN ALL BS3 GAMES COMBINED!

[oriol003]

LOL BS3 Games

[gta2800]

Fanboy much?

[snoopgg]

If you think this game is going to look better then Killzone 2. Come on people stop being so farking stupid. You people with 360's are in denial all the time.

[MerkinMax]

Don't go that far buddy. I've been playing Gears 2 recently and that would most likely be the game that comes close. Unfortunately K2 has graphical effects not yet seen on consoles of this generation.

[CLOUDJU]

Even though Call of Duty 4 spoilt me with it's amazing multipayer and now I can't seem to go back to Halo's multiplayer. I'm still a huge Halo fan, and can't wait to go threw this game campaign mode.

Hopefully, this game will also carry on the tradition of having a cliff hanger scene after all the credits have rolled; giving some insight to what's next for the Halo series.

[iClutch]

Stealth + Halo is going to rawk mai sawks.

[LittleBigKillzone]

How about stop drinking the Microsoft Kool aid and think.. there is nothing wrong with alternating franchises?! your a joke man, you wanna know why consoles like the SNES and PS2 where the greates consoles ever made.. VARIETY VARIETY VARIETY.. just think if the PS2 just alternated between MGS and God Of war the whole time it was out.. thats all the 360 is doing, they dont take chances on new HUGE IPs they just alternate.. Gears, Halo, Gears halo etc repeat process

[The BS Police]

Alternating between two franchises forever is not a good tactic, that is why though there are alot of other AAA games on the Xbox 360 each year aswell, so your not just limited to Halo and Gears of War.

[Halochampian]

Hey.. at least they are good games. And those are just the big sellers. There are plenty of good games that come out between them to keep you busy or like me... behind.

[Cajun Chicken]

The reason why MS appears to have a smaller arsenal is because those days of the 360 being the powerhouse that the XBOX and PS2 weren't is nealry over and pretty much all games are multiplatform for the fact the PS3 is picking up fast and publishers get twice the audience and money.

Bioshock 2: Multiplatform
Dead Rising 2: Multiplatform
Prey 2: Multiplatform
Mass Effect 2: Probably
Halflife Episode 3 (I predict a special version of the Orange Box for PS3 actually handled by Valve with L4D and EP3 because they could fit on the bluray): Multiplatform.

Basically, existing franchises that actually belong to MS are just Halo, Gears, Crackdown, Fable, Crimson Skies and possibly Rare's back catalogue, they actually don't 'own' much else. I also think Freelancer may exist as MS's rights too.

Its a shame out of that list I only enjoy Halo (Campaign; not Power Rangers Pay-To-Play online), Crackdown, Crimson Skies and Freelancer and everything else I like is pretty much Sony's IP which will be found on the PS3 and PSP.

Thing is developers are getting more money being on both consoles than just sticking to one because of a large cheque, so now, Microsoft Game Studios can finally prove itself or miserably fail, its going to be fun, stay tuned.

[Xi]

I would argue that MS owns as many top quality franchises as sony. The difference is that sony got a lot more attention last generation. And so many of them were a lot more known and better marketed.

[Traveler]

Oh come on, this is so dishonest. Just because Microsoft has two huge franchises that sell better than practically everything else out there does not mean that it does not have a really diverse lineup of games outside of that. In fact, that is one of the things I love about the Xbox 360, it's diversity and number of games. I have played more different JRPGs and western RPGs on the 360 than are available on the PS3. I get to play games like Tenchu Z (low scores I know, but I am a huge Tenchu fan and love it anyway), Banjo Kazooie, Braid, PGR4, Fable 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, and the better versions of games like Virtua Fighter 5, Bioshock, Orange Box, and Assassin's Creed. The 360 actually has a better variety of good games in different genres than any other console.

[Kush_Reaper]

Judging from the commennts of the xbots in here, seems they've be desperately serching high an low for killzone 2 killer. well guess wht? NOT GONNA HAPPEN lol.

Besides the power rangers arn't my thing. They're just too gay. Therefore we come to the conclusion of GALO LMAO.

EDIT:

Micro$shaft think their smart trying to release this in order to still away potential killzone 2 buyers lol. Pathetic move if true.

Also i presume the xbot fanbrats will jump all over this because there is nothing worth playing on the 360 come febuary, which therefore reveal why GALO or F@gs of war sell more than it's warranted.

PLAY BEYOND NOT BEHIND

[anubis12]

Littlebigkillzone.... what FF is sony on...on no's there are 4 halos compared to what 10 ff games....talk about your 9 comment

[running rampid]

dammit. i can only see the first page and a tiny portion off the second page.

[anubis12]

you dont know what Microsoft is releasing....all Sony talks about is games that are coming out like next year or something.heavy rain...killzone....blah blah blah

Microsoft focus on current titles

ps3 had nothing....only thing worth a ps3 right now is uncharted.

[deno]

day one purchase for me. I remember when I first purchased the original xbox, man those were good days.

[d_dogg2007]

lol what a loser, did you enjoy playing with that 30lbs console that couldnt be put vertically and had about 2 games its entire generation oh yeah lets not forget those huge controllers that give you arthritis lol your such a f*ck face,

[JOLLY1]

Oh wait, you didn't like the controller that was made for a mans hands? You like the little carpel tunnel controller? maybe it's that you liked the console without a hard drive. Maybe you liked the inferior graphics. I know it was the lack of online multiplayer. Oh, you must have just liked looking at your erect ps2. You must love a tall vertical console.

[DevastationEve]

is a loser.

buy an x360 and become a winner, dude.

[Rhoic]

Man.. the Playstation controller hurt my hands like crazy.. The 360's controller feels oh so good in your hands.

Also.. lol?

XBOX:

-Best graphics of the gen
-Internal HDD
-Linked Massive Online Play
-Fable, Halo 1 & 2, Conker, KOTOR 1 & 2, Max Payne (actually ran better on XBOX), Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden, Phychonauts, etc.

Also, there are about 1500 games rated on metacritic on the PS2.. about 1100 of them are 70 and below lol. And I always hear PS3 fans say

Quality > Quantity.

[Maxned]

No one thinks youre cool because you made your avatar boobies or that you act tough on the internet.
That guy said NOTHING OFFENSIVE and yet your unload on him like that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Madmax1281980]

thats funny coz last time i checked the original xbox had more than just 2 good games ie.

halo, halo2, project gotham 1 + 2, rallisport challenge 1+2 (i hope they make a 3rd for the 360), grabbed by the ghoulies, voodoo vince, riddick e.f.b.b, half-life 2, race driver 2+3, doom 3, links 2004, blood wake, brute force, far cry, crazi taxi 3, outrun 2006, oddworld strangers rath, dead or alive 3, max payne 1+2, jsrf, top spin, pariah, conker, toejam and earl 3, forza, and lots more

[deno]

you speak of play beyond not behind, right? well everything sony has been delaying is definitely beyond. keep thinking of beyond why we think of now!!! I remember when I was a sega fanboy, it was never this bad. These new fanboys are like the chimera in resistance, they keep coming.

[griff]

halo

[Strife Lives]

Xbl is officially supported here,so I created a foreign account to get on.And that means getting MS points is doable. . .but a b1tch to do.and,Its costs way more than its suppose to.So. . .I question if Recon will be worth the effort.I wishd they had put out a new game instead though,with a new art style. . .but I suppose an add on is fun.Thing is,with the H3 game engine,lighting looks great but graphics. . .look kinda meh. Anyways,wil consider this. But if any of you have spare Msft points lol please lemme know lol

[MerkinMax]

Bungie said they are changing the art direction a little. They are going to make it a little more gloomy. If there's anything we've learned in the gaming industry it's that gloomy "less colorful" games look the best.

[iownbothps360]

u know what i'm defiantly buying Killzone 2 day1.
but u sony fans need to cool it because not one game that u sony fans push asa console mover sold worth a
dam. now u can mention mgs4 but it can very easily end
up on 360. and another thing u people can holla lbp is a new ip all u want but the fact is this gears1 was a new ip and it still sold over a mill week 1 with out a demo. do i need to metion other games ac biosshock to name a few all new ips still better then
lbp, and don't holla that it will get to a mill or more in its life time because that will just back fire in ur face. how simple because pdz kameo ninja
gaiden and even viva pinyata all as sold a mill or more, but these games are consider flops by u ps3 fanboys simply because it took months to get there.
and the thing i find the most funny is that all year
long is that every body was saying tat sony hadthe best holiday line up but yet all of there games have failed in sales.

[jluth3]

Microsoft will own Sony with the biggest sales of any game again. Guaranteed

[slak]

this is looking hot

[xg-ei8ht]

You know what kills me with PC owners, I'm one myself.

But all they say is, PC kills consoles.

Get this.

Even with a decent pc, the below game jumps about.

Call of duty world at war isn't even stable fps wise. It's all over the place. You know why. Because of the massive overhead from windows/dx/api/

That's why console don't need as much graphical grunt.

And calling the ps3 limited is truly lmfao.

1 spu culls so well on ps3, you don't need a 8800gtx/ and up to contend.

The only game that looks good on pc is crysis/warhead. But even then it's only due to the foilage. But again, you need a super system to run it at decent speeds. You would not need the same graphical power on a console to run it.

Yes it'd have slightly lower textures, but i can tell you this, crytek are working on a ps3 game. And you'll be surprised.

[GodGinrai]

And what does any of that have to do with halo:recon?

[tudors]

to those who say that the Xbox-360 has peaked you need to see gears 2 in action.

[DevastationEve]

I second that. Gears2 rewrites the book on 3rd persons tactical shooters. And graphics. And sound!

For the console that wasn't supposed to survive off living room appeal (coughPS3cough) x360 shows that it's focus wasn't bluray. It wasn't bluetooth. It wasn't memory stick readers, built in wi-fi, or even a fancy named CPU and controller.

It was the games.

[vmartin12]

Gears 2 lost its value within a week..
Sigh..

Time to sell my 360.

[Traveler]

Gears 2 is the best looking console game I have ever seen. Not to mention one of the best action games ever.

[na2ru1]

make my Killzone killer

[na2ru1]

and K'CHINGG! success.

Halo3 had one of the most dull campaigns EVER. Multiplayer is a fustrating experience with unbalanced Hog turrets and unfair BS melees. It was a MESS and MS and Bungie KNEW IT. Gameplay and graphics was ported from Halo2. Thats why they resorted to extreme marketing to relief their grief. THATS HOW EASY 360 FANBOYS ARE.

The game lacked that leap that was present on the transition from Halo1 to Halo2. They implemented new graphics, lots of weapons, new moves(hijack) all with 1 generation. I have all three games so i know what I'm talking about.

It is SO SO bait that Halo3 earnt its 10/10s by bribary and 360 fnbys know it
Infinity Ward knows they could have done better.

[I am Legend]

Woah !! Woah !! Woah !!

Keep those panties in a bunch....

the people still playing online will disagree with you...

GREAT GAME !

[DevastationEve]

Halo3 was FPS gaming nirvana. Forge was mecca.

Correction: IS, not was.

The action is relentless, the controls are the tightest in any console FPS, the graphics are sharp (yes, they are). But what sells Halo3 is the sound. Martin O'Donnel and his team are the REAL magic workers. I crank it up every time I load it up! That game has INCREDIBLE sound!

[Traveler]

Why can't the guy above realize that tons of people love Halo and think it is a great game. It received great scores because that is the sincere opinion of the reviewers who reviewed the game.

And yeah, I love the music in the Halo series. Some of the best game music of all time.

[Tony600]

The screens looks OK,but a little weak for 2009 standards!I have only a PS3 but I wont buy Killzone 2,because I hate shooters.I like action/adventure/sandbox/WRPGs !

[Socomer 1979]

im going to be alternating from Killzone2 to socom to Mgo to Resistance 2. Ill check out halo recon at a freinds house. It looks
like it could work. just hope I can keep my word on that.

[Magic_The_Celt]

poor cow is all milked out, back off micro$oft

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

"SOCOM 6, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, Grand Turismo 5, Virtua Fighter 5, Final Fantasy 1,000,000, God of War 3, COD5, Prince of Persia 4, Time Crisis 4, Ridge Racer 7, Twkken 6, Resident Evil 5, Winning Post 7, G1 Jocky 4, Sly Cooper 4 and Singstar 3"

Dumbass

[Sarah Palin]

Those Sony Kids seem to get all riled-up over this, and yet they say this game is "nothing". Shouldnt be a reason to get upset then. Maybe its the totally F*CKING awesome stats Halo 3 has. Not a single game on PSN can even compete with HALF of those stats---hell, I bet if you COMBINE their top 3, it still wouldnt be enough. I mean, I can see where if you spent 600(or 400 if you waited) you would be upset, waiting to play your first DECENT game after 2 YEARS(cough*mgs4*cough)--but thats still no reason to try and take it out on MS and anyone that supports them. :)

@MAGIC-BELOW:

Legit, yes. But so were Saw2,3,4, and 5---and nobody saw the last 2 of those. Not unless youre an idiot.
My point is, you can have a legit sequel---but that doesn't mean its not a total pile of crap.
Its like when you were a kid, and someone calls you a name, and you say "I know you are but what
am I?" over and over again. The first 2 times, your friends thought you were clever---but after that, they just felt sorry for you.

[Magic_The_Celt]

^^ jason those are legit sequels.

lets see what we got here? DLC for more than a year old game

and a pathetic spin off RTS

rofl. surely even you with your small mind can see the difference

or would it be easier if i wrote it on a stick and hit you with the stick?

[DFresh]

This game looks exactly the same as Halo 3.
Nothing really new.

[jack who]

i came

[Sarah Palin]

All in all, it looks like a great game.
It should be a lot of fun for everyone.
I was really impressed by those Halo 3 Stats though. Hella Awesome Stuff.

[jackdoe]

Nathan Fillon as the squad leader is pure win. Maybe he is the main character?

[Traveler]

Yeah, Nathan Fillion is awesome. I am a huge fan of Firefly and Nathan does awesome voice work. Did you know he voiced Gao the Lesser in Jade Empire?

That reminds me, I really hope Bioware are working on Jade Empire 2. I loved the first game.

Anyway, Halo Recon is going to be awesome. I like the darker atmosphere and the stealth aspects.

[BlueRevolvuR]

they update the graphics. was disapointed with Halo 3's graphics being outdated to Gears 1

[vmartin12]

Same halo as always...

[Traveler]

It sounds like it's going to be awesome. It's cool that Nathan Fillion is going to be doing some of the voice work for the game. All in all this sounds like a really fresh take on the Halo universe. I can't wait.

[Ldubbz]

Halo suckas...thats all I really gotta say

[thenickel]

I'm so looking forward to this game and really hope it turns out great. 2009 is really shaping up to be a good year for 360 and maybe the best yet.

[redsnake]

i hope everybody realizes that this is not a full game it is more of a expansion pack on the level of ratchet nad clank quest for booty. unfortunately xbl has a limit so good games cannot be downloaded so it will be retail. ill be picking it up if its under $30 bucks if not den dun dat

[cherrypie]

Super awesome. Bring on Halo 3: Recon!

[Sea_Man]

Sign me up I'm buying this one

[SaberEdge]

of course it will be good...bungie know how to make good gameplay. I like the new darker atmoshpere of the game and how it will be incorporating more stealth mechanics. and the other thing is that the game will be cheaper since it isn't as long as some games. nevertheless I am sure that it will be a top seller next year.