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Microsoft Announces Q3 Financial Results: 1.2 Million Xbox One Consoles Shipped; Xbox Revenue up 45%

It's quarterly financial results day at Microsoft today, and Redmond's corporation sent in a press release right in time for its earnings report right in time for the closure of the markets.

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Axios23672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

$20,000,000,000 in revenue

Well done

The "Devices and Consumer hardware" devision account for almost $2 Billion in revenue for this quarter.

"Xbox platform revenue UP 45%"

KendrickLamar3672d ago

20B in revenue not from Xbox, from the company as a whole.

georgeenoob3672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

Xbox is at its most successful state now than it has ever been. Congrats to MS.

@kingthrash

Sorry, forgot this was N4G. M$ is d00med!!

NewMonday3672d ago

"On the other hand gross margin decreased by 34%"

"xbox gross margin =0"

Kingthrash3603672d ago

lol george.
c'mon man really?
lol too much...i should +bub you for "funny"

Thehyph3672d ago

The next quarterly will be better. (Office on iOS)

It's important to note the difference between revenue and profit.
Read the quote from NewMonday and then look up gross margin.

Xbox does not truly appear solid to investors on this sheet, BUT I will give Xbox the benefit of the doubt here and say that the next few quarters Microsoft will spend recouping R&D costs for Xbox One.

mikeslemonade3672d ago

Yea of course you revenue goes up when you just released a system as compared to just selling 360s.

That's all Microsoft can say. The system is faltering and they're using zombie stats to try to spin the good in the numbers.

FriedGoat3672d ago

bubbled george for funny. good idea kingthrash

truefan13672d ago Show
Pogmathoin3672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

For 1% of that profit, I could care less about the Great Sony/MS wars...... Just drop 1% my way..... Will not be missed....

Edit: NewMonday, you some kind of Killjoy or what? You would kill an orgasm with Kate Upton..... Try be cheerful!

TomShoe3672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

So about 3.8-4.2 XBOs sold compared to 7M+ PS4s.

The Xbox might be able to win back the US, but it's not looking good. Losing all of that XBL free money won't help either.

UltimateMaster3672d ago

1.2 million shipped in the 3rd quarter?
I tough it was more, around 2-3 million.

tbone5673672d ago

Unbelievable. Net profit was around 15 billion? Holy cow.

RoboticusRex3672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

Sony is worth more than 20 billion
Sorry to burst your xbubble @truefan

scott1823672d ago

lol @ shipped numbers, MS is too funny. Nintendo and Sony should jump on the shipped numbers train too.

JoySticksFTW3672d ago

So X1's shipped for the whole quarter (1.2 mil) what PS4 sold through to actually customers in one month (1 mil).

Dang, MS... Say goodbye to that marketshare you gained last gen at this rate.

kneon3672d ago

@scott182

It would make little difference to Sony's numbers
at this point as shipped and sold are nearly the same.

MysticStrummer3672d ago

XB1 is selling better than XB, which did ok but released late in the game against the juggernaut PS2 so it never really had a chance, and 360, which was in short supply at the beginning of it's lifespan.

1.2 million consoles (XB1 and 360) shipped isn't great when the competition is actually selling so many more of just it's new console on a consistent basis.

I wonder how much of the increase in XB revenue is due to XBL being required now...

GameNameFame3672d ago

So 1.2 million sold over 3 months.

That is nothing.

PS4 is selling over a million per month. lol

DragonKnight3672d ago

@truefan1: This isn't a Sony article, is there any reason you decided to bring them up?

I hope you realize that $20 billion is more than you're worth, guess you'll be going bankrupt soon and won't be able to post your troll comments on here anymore right?

Kribwalker3672d ago

20 billion in net profit in the last 9 months is equal to Sony's losses the last 5 years. I really think sony needs to rethink their buisness plans as something's just not working for them. Hate all you want, but Microsoft knows how to make money , they get almost 2 billion a year on android royalties alone. They may not be selling as many consoles, but as a company they'll be around a lot longer then Sorny at this rate

uptownsoul3672d ago

@truefan1 "It looks like XBOX is under a secure umbrella, no leaks." The Xbox division during it's entire history has been a loss for Microsoft. In other words, Xbox IS the leak.

morganfell3671d ago

Good analysis on the X1 numbers at Gaf: http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

PS4 has almost doubled the X1 on sold to consumers.

jebabcock3671d ago (Edited 3671d ago )

Just to put things into perspective.

For the quarter MS reported a $20billion in revenue overall... $1.97 billion included all hardware devices sold.
Of that $1.97billion approximately $600million came direct from console sales of X1(1.2mil * 500). another $200 million came from the 360(.8mil * 250).

The surface tablets alone accounted for $494 million which roughly equates to 1.2 million sales(494mil / ~$400).

The rest probably came from other peripherals and mobile devices that ms sells.

The total revenue for all Devices & Consumer Other category was 1.95 billion which included office 365, ad revenues generated from sources like bing as well as xbl transactional revenues among other things. I would guess at least half of that comes from bing and potentially alot more as it now has an 18% market share in the US. I'd guess that 500-600 million might be reasonable for xbl transactions. Might be generous though too. I'm shooting in the dark here.

Revenue is meaningless though. The actual net income overall for MS was $5.6 billion. This is what they gained after subtracting all costs. For all of devices and hardware the gross margin was $256million. Please stop and let that sink in for a moment. The actual net income would be less than that as the gross margin does not factor in all costs... (they neglected to report any net incomes at this level in the article as MS probably didnt report them either).

Last year the gross margin for the same quarter was 393 million. Its nearly half as profitable as it was at this time last year. That is what georgeenoob means by being at its most successful state.

The gross margin (which again doesn't include all costs) for Devices and Consumer other(bing, office 365, xbl) was only 540 million. Once again the net income is less than that. and the xbl generated income is less than that still probably by at least half. That is for the massive install base of the 360 along with the x1.

To say it is doomed isn't true, but these aren't exactly good numbers or something to be exactly proud of. The margins and volumes even on the software side do not look too stellar. I understand why they are hiding things.

@truefan Generating 20billion is not the same thing as being worth 20billion. A company could theoretically generate 100 billion in revenue but if the margins are terrible and they have no assets, the company may only be worth a 100 million or less on paper. Typically its assets and current and projected profit margins that determine worth. Revenues have little to do with it...

JohnnyBadfinger3671d ago

Lol at people who think sold to consumers and sold 2 retailers are a different thing entirely. They are only insignificantly different at best.

Why would a retailer order more consoles if they arent being sold? Bottom line is no matter where you go now you can find PS4s and X1s sitting on the shelf. Get this stupid idea out of your head that your PS4 is still in red hot demand. Month after month their sale figures prove its decline just as much as the X1.

PS4s price just helped it grab its early adopters when most of the console gamer community are still content with their last gen consoles. X1s price tag is its reason for its slow start, just as it was for the PS3. Fact.

feel free to respond to my reply but i wont be reading it so your views opinions and insults wont be received by me.

DragonKnight3671d ago

@johnnybadfinger: They are different things. Sold to retailers represents available stock and can remain as available stock indefinitely. Sold to consumer represents stock that has been sold through and requires replacing, meaning a necessity to produce more product to sell to retailers.

Microsoft can sell 5 million to retailers, but the retailers could only sell, say, 3 million. This means there are 2 million units out in the wild not being bought which forces either Microsoft, or the retailer, to take measures to make the console an enticing purchase. This may result in bundles, or price cuts where either Microsoft or the retailer take a hit in their own profits just to get the product off their shelf.

Sony selling 7 million to consumers means that everyone is making money. Sony, and their retail partners, don't have to resort to bundles or price cuts in order to get the product off the shelf and so they are making more and more money all the time.

Needless to say, Microsoft wouldn't want to be in the position of having no reason to replenish retailer stock.

chuckyj13671d ago

If you actually read his comment that's exactly what he states... He never states the$20B in revenue is from the Xbox Division... Be he does correctly state that almost 2 Billion of that is from the Devices and Consumer hardware (Xbox is part of that division)

Now let's sit tight and see if Sony can pull a profit. It's been a while since they've been in the black ink as a company as a whole.

jebabcock3671d ago (Edited 3671d ago )

@chuckyj1

Revenue isn't profit... MS likely took a significant loss on the X1 according to the numbers we see here..

According to the article, the revenue is 2 billion for hardware devices. but gross margin was only 256 million.

the profits for all hardware devices would be a chunk less than the gross margin(which subtracts only part of the costs). The x1 is one part of quite a long list of devices and peripherals that MS includes in this amount.

Also note that the Hardware devices division had a drop of 34% in its gross margin which is much more closely aligned with profit and makes the 45% increase in revenue kind of a bad thing. It is a strong indicator that the X1 is in the red and eating into profits. As much as people want to pretend the reported numbers are good it is never a good sign when you are charging people ALOT more money but making less of it yourself. We call that a lose-lose situation.

So yes MS is likely taking a loss for the actual console sales. They may be recouping it from transactions in XBL. No way of knowing really just how much profit the XB1 is generating there though. I'm sure the 360 generates a decent amount due to the install base, but i would wager the x1 is still fairly small due to only having a fraction of the install base of the 360.

To be honest i would be shocked if Sony isn't taking a loss on consoles as well at the present. Once again online transactions will enable profitability for sony just like MS.

UltraNova3671d ago (Edited 3671d ago )

@dragon

And to add to your breakdown, when your product barely sells (compared to the competition) you have to keep retailers happy in order for them to accept your product that will sit in shelves and storage for god knows how long.

One common practice is to is give free merchandise to that retailer or increase their profit margin by decreasing yours per product sold to them, not by much but just enough. Its a necessary hit wholesalers have to take from time to time. (This goes further into why their net profit might be even lower than you guys estimate)

I can definitely see MS trying this especially when they need to present yearly and quarterly reports to share holders.

DiRtY3671d ago

Why do I have to correct N4G users every 3 months?

first: Every company reports shipped numbers in their financial reports. EVERY COMPANY. Apple, Sony, Microsoft, Samsung, Nintendo. E.V.E.R.Y.

Got this now?

second: This puts Xbox One at 5.1 million consoles sold to retailers (See what I did here?) at the end of March.

Third: Sonys market cap is 18.96 billion USD now. If you want to buy 100% of Sonys shares, you have to pay this amount. So if MS invested their operating income for the last 9 months, they could buy 100% of Sony. (In theory, share prices will go up if someone wants to buy that much, but you get the idea).

Sony will report their financial results soon and after 5.66 billion USD net income is bad now, breaking even after years of losses becomes 'doing great'.

rainslacker3671d ago

@george

The last few years of the 360 were much more profitable for the Xbox division. X1 is selling more than the 360 did in the same time frame but the 360 monthly sales the past few years still dwarf the current X1 sales overall. 360 was selling at a pretty decent profit margin, so while MS isn't doing poorly based on the 360, your assumption is just wrong.

AndrewLB3671d ago

Well according to their quarterly report, M$ has sold a total of 5 million Xbones. That's 800k more than what Vgchartz claims. And since this is a quarterly report where it's highly illegal to lie or even play loose with the facts, looks like VGchartz has been under-estimating Xbone sales by almost 20%. http://www.forbes.com/sites...

Also... to all the Sony fanboys out there. Can someone please show me where in Sony's announcement of 7 million PS4's sold does it even mention "to consumers"??

http://blog.us.playstation....

If Sony truly had sold that many to actual people and not stores, you'd think their announcement would have specified this right? Notice how they DID make it clear about the game sales to consumers though. hmm..

Ritsujun3671d ago

It's okay, MS. Don't ever give up!!! lol

TheRealHeisenberg3671d ago (Edited 3671d ago )

Exactly so this should be considered great news for all the Sony employees and Sony Fanboys that own MS stock and bad news for anybody that wants to see MS fail. Seems to me that MS and Xbox will continue to be around for a while which should be considered great news for gamers that are reaping the benefits of the competition for our money. Game on whatever you choose but chill on the hate. I mean damn...there is a lot of hate going on in here for MS and it is just pathetic. N4G would be such a better place if fanboys just stayed in news for their consoles of choice.

DragonKnight3671d ago

@AndrewLB: Don't you think that if Sony knows how many games they sold to consumers (which is a result of turning the PS4 on, connecting to PSN, and playing the game) that they know how many PS4s they sold to consumers via the same method? Face facts, they sold 7 million to consumers.

morganfell3671d ago

Yes every console manufacturer reports shippeed numbers BUT... there is an ocean of difference between shipped in and shipped through which are the two methods of reporting. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend those numbers do not matter or you can deal with the facts.

illtownNJONE3671d ago

Sony is worth 16 billion as a whole

frostypants3671d ago

@JohnnyBadfinger, channel stuffing is a thing. Companies do it.

morganfell3671d ago

http://www.gamasutra.com/vi...

"We do expect to work through some inventory in Q4," said Hood, referring in this case to the period between April 1 - June 30, 2014. She also referred to "channel inventory drawdown for Xbox consoles," implying that manufacturing of Xbox consoles will slow or stop, to allow retailers time to work through existing inventory.

PONTIAC08G8GT3671d ago

I love how many haters are on this website. Why does it bother you if they sold 8 million X1's in a month or 8? Like does this really matter to you? It's so funny reading all these posts and how everyone is a financial analyst or gaming expert. It's pathetic how many sad people are on here. Getting panties in a bunch over numbers Microsoft released, who honestly cares. If you bought a PS4, knock yourself out. You bought an X1, good for you. If you bought a Wii U, well I just feel bad for you lol.

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christocolus3672d ago

I wish I had some of that in my bank account right now. That's a alot of cash and Bill just keeps getting richer every day and yet he lives such a simple life style.

Well I hope this spurs the new management to continue investing more into the xbox division. Nadella im talking to you. Sign off another $1b for games.

NewMonday3672d ago

you will get $0 in your bank account because if look up the actual profits after revenue the number is "0"

DiRtY3671d ago

@NewMonday

Only on N4G false information get agree votes.

The profit for the Devices and Consumer Hardware division (Xbox 360, Xbox One and Surface) is 260 million USD and this does not include first party games!

MS as a whole reported a 14.5 billion USD profit for 3 months.

Where did you get that nonsense from? The last quarter the the devices and consumer hardware (former EDD) division reported a loss was July 2012. The EDD post an annual profit since 2008.

This is not Sony we are talking about.

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Utalkin2me3672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

They shipped a paltry 1.2 million Xbox 1 units in Q3 and people think they got 20,000,000,000 in revenue, lol. The Xbox division is still in the red and the only reason MS makes a profit is due to having a monopoly in desktop OS....SMH

Dewitt3672d ago

Wow you are so clueless it isn't funny. Actually, read the article before you post.

fr0sty3672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

Actually, he isn't clueless about Xbox being in the red. The original Xbox lost 4 billion dollars. The 360 went on to lose a billion more with RROD. So far Xbox as a brand has never turned a dime of profit, it hasn't even repaid its investment to the company. This is why so many are calling for it to be sold off.

That said, Sony erased all of their PS1 and PS2 profits with PS3, so they haven't been profitable with gaming either... though they haven't lost as much as MS has when you factor everything together. PS4 is also selling like hotcakes, so that picture only continues to improve.

fonger083672d ago

@Utalkin2Me yes technically Xbox is in the red but so is Sony in that timeframe... so not really sure where you're going with that.

@Fr0sty Xbox turned a profit for 4 years straight (2008-2011). Though they've lost 3 billion (2003-2013), and Sony has lost 5 billion over that same time frame. Gaming is an expensive venture...

http://www.neowin.net/news/...

k3rn3ll3672d ago

Actually the majority of their money is made off enterprise now a days.

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Nekroo913672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

TrueFan let me explain how it works...

It doesent matter for the xbox if the company makes 20 billion in profit (twice as much Sony value) because the xbox division is non profitable. And hey stock owners want to make MORE money, not lose it to make kids like you happy.

Theres a reason why the CEO wants to sell it ...to make the board happy.Its a business when is non profitable its time to cut..just like what sony is doing with pc division

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF3672d ago

Wow.. Looks like Xbox is really in trouble.. Insert rolling eyes gif here. Up way big time than before.

All the die hard Sony fans will not want to believe the factual numbers.

Here we go!

LambOfLucifer793671d ago

You know if you're pro xbox on this site you'll be downvoted. That's hysterical to me. Honestly, it looks like xbox is doing really well. Let's see how many disagrees I get. LMAO

randomass1713671d ago

The best way to look at it is Xbox One may not be outperforming PS4 but it's still doing respectable numbers. No reason to downvote anyone for being happy about that. The Xbox One could be doing much worse than this and people don't seem to realize that.

Jazz41083671d ago

Sonys projected report for the quarter is more loses and its around 5 billion this year. Sony is in trouble as a company and ms is doing great as a company. Go ahead and break up little pieces of the company to try to make ms look bad when its the bottom line that matters and thats Ms is makeing a profit consistantly while sony has lossed over 3 times what the company used to be worth maybe more. Like I said its the bottom line that counts and alot of companys keep divisions around that dont make huge profit because it can be used in other venues. Im not trying to rag on sony so dont rag on ms when all they did was generate more billions in a quarter.

Thunderhawkxbox3671d ago

Woow look at Sony fan boys giving u dislike guess wat Sony fan boys Microsoft doesn't have to se their building or laptop or tv division at least try to enjoy your last console which is indie station 4 before Sony goes completely bankrupt

XxExacutionerxX3671d ago

Xbox One!!!! Greatest system on the planet!!

Lowsnamebrand3671d ago

Good job passing an opinion off as fact, even though the console is selling less and has bottlenecks the competing console doesn't have...

TripC503671d ago

Read xxEx and lows comments above.

Sums up what happens all day everyday on N4G.

medman3671d ago

Yet more meaningless bs stats from the Microsoft camp who prefer deflection and distraction to actually telling gamers how many consoles have actually been sold to consumers. Shameful. F Microsoft.

BG115793671d ago

They will be able of telling you how many bullets were fired in certain games. How many hours per day people live the bone on. How the revenue from ads increased.
But consoles sold to costumers? That's pure science fiction man. Let's keep it at consoles sent to retailers. Those are good numbers.

sak5003671d ago

Much better with games and updates than the always mum sony who have no clue how to update their new console since they haven't updated a single thing since it was launched. Turning their rabid fanboys into mental patients who can only vent their frustration by trying to troll MS articles.

They are called Sonmbies. Sony's zombies.

Alsybub3671d ago

@medman

These are the stats given to shareholders. They cannot lie on these. If they do then they will be breaking the law. If you have insider information I suggest you report it to the relevant authorities.

Also, it is a requirement that the numbers are based on shipped. If you have an issue with this you should take it up with the international stock exchanges.

Muzikguy3671d ago

I couldn't for one second believe that was all "Xbox". That's a ton of money. They would need to sell 40 million XboxOnes to do that O_O (well, games too but still)

Alsybub3671d ago

It's because that figure is for the whole company.

imt5583671d ago

Well, MS shipped 1.2 mil. Xbone's from Jan.-Mar. to retailers, Sony SOLD 2.7+ mil. PS4's to customers from Jan.-Mar. ( 4.2+ sold in 2013. )

So, sell ratio is greater than 2:1 in PS4 favor from Jan.-Mar.

greenlantern28143671d ago

Great news for any one who owns stock in the company. But why can't they say what the actual sales of the xb1 is already?

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Lawboy23672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

Andbeforetheseareshippedconsol es

To shareholders this is $ in their pockets....whether sold to consumers or sold to retailers...the shareholders make money...and so does microsoft

Also as stated in the comments in the article

U have to REMEBER the shareholders are not looking at the ps4 sales figures...this is the quarterly report it has to be reported so that the shareholders can see what state the company is in...and from the looks of things the xbox division is doing good

Also u must REMEBER that retailers wouldn't continue buying consoles if they weren't selling...that's why only 1 million consoles were shipped in the quarter...that's a good way of seeing how the console is selling...retailers order more stock when they've sold their previous stock

@ 2pac

This is the quarterly report...also how does sales figure help gamers other than to boost gamers egos....in actuality its not about the amount of consoles sold...it's about the revenue and profit the consoles brings in...more revenue and profit more games can go into development and things like better online also come into play

2pacalypsenow3672d ago

Yes because Shareholders are gamers and its about the shareholder not the gamer

nypifisel3672d ago

Sillyness. Shareholders say "Why aren't Xbox selling as well as PS4?"

There are nearly 1 million Xbox Ones sitting on shelves.

T23672d ago

well regardless of whether or not these are shipped or sold I wonder if ms is happy with xbox sales...

1. xb1 is selling better than 360!
2. PS4 is likely to have sold 2X more than xb1 at this point.

Those are strange figures that I think few expected... so the question remains, is MS happy? we may never know.
One thing is certain though, if there are a boatload of xb1 on shelves, the coming months may not be very good.

k3rn3ll3672d ago

And what makes you think that there are 1.5 million Xboxes sitting on the shelves? That would mean they didn't sell any xboxes in Feb and march. Now being in 16 countries that means their is an average of close to 100000 sitting on shelves in each country. Highly unlikely

T23671d ago

It may not be exactly 2x but it's 7.5 million vs 4.3 million so you get my meaning. Double in a short time basically

DefenderOfDoom23672d ago

Who cares what the shareholders make ! I want to know how many people here own MICROSOFT shares! I guess i have a sour taste in my mouth due to the fact, i have been living check to check since the economy tanked in 2007! . The rich get richer and the poor suffer!

Chevalier3671d ago

@Lawboy

Actually Xbone isn't selling well. My store since March has sold well over 100 PS4's and only 35 or so Xbone. That was during their biggest release Titanfall. We have a dozen sitting in my back room and unsold. The systems we sell do not generate any money for us or Sony it's the peripherals and all the games where we both make money. The Xbone sitting is a loss because the space we pay rent on.

MS doesn't benefit at all from us havint units sitting unsold. They need those unitsto be in a customers hands to generate sales continuously.

For example when my customer buys the system with game, PS plus annual, controller etc. Sony and us both profit. These customers also come back for new games and trade in old ones profitting us both again. MS however haven't made much if anything by selling us the system. As long as they sit the less our company orders and the less they generate in profit.

Lawboy23671d ago

If missing the point...once the console is ordered ur company pays Microsoft....and yes I understand they don't make money while the system sits in the back because games and peripherals aren't sold....but the only reason ur company orders so many consoles is because they believe they can sell it....I promise you...if they didn't they wouldn't order it or they would ship it to another retailer in the company that is selling the system better...that's how business works....

Chevalier3671d ago (Edited 3671d ago )

@Lawboy

Yeah you might think that, but, we don't get many Xbones anywhere near a regular rate. Our company is sitting on stock and there is no need to order any more stock or we order much less overall. We're receiving stock replenishment from our remaining company stock not necessarily new stock.

Also your missing the point which is that the hardware themselves are NOT profitable. Yes we paid MS for those units, but, they either break even or take a loss. Their manufacturing cost is just under what they sell them to us for and the extra money they make goes into paying the shipping to get us the units once you get that cost in they made no money or took a loss. Sitting in our backroom is a cost too because we pay rent and every month they go unsold is a slight loss.

So the point is our company will stop buying stock till we sell through our stock. In fact our company may not be sitting on many units because our company thinks we'll sell them so much as MS may have offered deals to take so many units offering them for cheaper then usual or absorbing the cost by allowing us to send them back unsold units.

Also they stuff the channels purposely during March in particular by offering retailers deals to stock up not because it will sell, but, to put up higher numbers to report to shareholders and make you think they're doing well by having an inflated number and say to naive people that there is 5 million units in retailers hands. They do this during March because it is fiscal year end for most major corporations and they need their annual reports to stockholders to be deceptively good sounding. So in reality if you look through all the BS they are not doing well.

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Lawboy23672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

Also nice article abriael very detailed...I really do like dual shockers website starting to be one of my favorites

@ death

Yeah I like n4g but dual shockers report on everything and they are pretty good at getting to the news first which is why I like them

DeathOfTheFanBoy3672d ago

Better than N4G, that's for sure.

TheRedButterfly3672d ago

Well that's not really saying much... My infant cousin does less whining than N4G.

Utalkin2me3672d ago

@TheRedButterfly

Says the guy whining about N4G, roflmao

TheTowelBoy3672d ago

Agree, I don't hate the site completely but the community is very, very toxic. And one sided.

Zhipp3672d ago

@Utalkin2me
He's not whining. He's just making a statement of fact.

randomass1713671d ago

N4G is not a bad site, but unfortunately the community can be pretty unreasonable and antagonistic. I'm a Sony fan, but I like to think I'm more open minded about other game companies and what they have to offer. I want all three to do well. Microsoft's competition and Nintendo's competition HELP Sony improve themselves. I wish more people recognized that.

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christocolus3672d ago

Yeah Abriael thanks for this post...you doing good.

Went through Nadella and Hoods comments once more. As good as this was i'm certain theyll improve on it next quarter.

"CEO Satya Nadella accompanied the release with a statement:
This quarter’s results demonstrate the strength of our business, as well as the opportunities we see in a mobile-first, cloud-first world. We are making good progress in our consumer services like Bing and Office 365 Home, and our commercial customers continue to embrace our cloud solutions. Both position us well for long-term growth.We are focused on executing rapidly and delivering bold, innovative products that people love to use.

CFO Amy hood also commented:
We delivered solid, broad-based financial results driven by strong execution and continued cost discipline. We are focusing our resources to drive growth and long-term shareholder value."

I wish the new management all the best and i hope they continue doing really well.

NYC_Gamer3672d ago

I hope MS uses some of that profit to build up the Xbox brand in terms of software

AceBlazer133672d ago

Can't speak for profits but the revenue already went into price cuts and a ton of free games bundled in . Good guy microsoft.

Abriael3672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

Just as a clarification, the price cuts weren't sponsored by Microsoft. That's retailers taking a loss in order to sell more consoles, and get a higher profit on accessories and games as a result.

When Microsoft or Sony sponsor a price cut, it happens across the board, not just at certain retailers.

GameSpawn3672d ago

Abriael,

Sometimes you can get deals with distributors by ordering certain amounts. Usually stores chalk this up to a better profit margin and don't pass along the savings to the end customer, but sometimes when the product isn't moving you eat your "bonus" profit to get the product out the door.

So, you are 80% right. A price cut from Sony or Microsoft would be across the board (though could still be limited to a region). However stores aren't always eating as much of a loss as you think they are, because you don't know if they got extra "incentives" (read discounts) with their last order.

True_Samurai3672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

They already are with 1 Billion spent on exclusives whether it's 1st-3rd party exclusives or just exclusive content. Also by opening new first party studios such as Leap Experience Pioneers

BTW CAN'T WAIT FOR SUNSET OVERDRIVE REVEAL IN EDGE MAGAZINE ON MAY 8TH

jackanderson19853671d ago

The 1bil is first/second party cuz I'm pretty sure they said it was invested within Microsoft studios so that would exclude the third parties from that amount

corvusmd3672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

Nice, well done MS. Growth is always a great thing, and it's good to see that the XB1 is doing very well financially as well. The more profitable it is for them, the more they will be willing to invest in it.

Abriael makes a good point above, it wasn't MS making official price cuts as of yet, that was retailers competing with each other for business. And if it was due to an inability to move consoles...they would not have shipped-in 1.2 mil more consoles.

DoubleM703672d ago

Yes any growth is positive. As long as your not in the red your doing fine. You got disagrees....LOL

T23672d ago

uhh nooo , it was just as likely retailers competing to OFFLOAD excess stock as it was competing, you don't slash prices to compete with a sold out product, you slash price to try and ditch your product so that your competitor is left holding the bag. nice try though. and their sales are just fine , but "shipping in" 1.2 mil console isn't saying squat.

Chevalier3671d ago

No company likes dropping prices unless they have large stocks and are desperate to clear space. The longer they sit they actually lose money because of the rented space and taking up space of product that actually sells. A sale at full price without a peripheral, year of live , points or game is a loss. Selling a discounted system is a bigger loss leader in hopes of generating profit. 1.2 million shipped across a quarter when your competition actually sold through 3 million units isn't good.

In the last 7 weeks my store has sold well over 100 PS4's and our company orders as much as we can because we sell every single unit where's since Titanfall bundles we've only sold out we have only sold 3 regular units. That's already 3 x the sales of Xbone.

If that's your idea of great sales I don't know what to say. The stock I receive this week for PS4 represent a guaranteed sale and I can guarantee you that shipment is more than the Xbone we'll sell all month. Plus there aren't any other major titles coming out till fall? This is why retailers will be continue to bundle free games and MS will also start making bundles to try to boost sales. Generally bundles come much later in a systems lifetime when sales start dropping.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 10h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 2h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 1h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC14h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 16h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 4h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear2122h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 20h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 18h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC14h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon6158623h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k419h ago(Edited 18h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k419h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 19h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 8h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 2h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 18h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 18h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 9h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn197923h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 2h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere2d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin2d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere2d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 11h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere2d ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 11h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney1d 6h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii2d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno2d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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