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8 Things We'd Like to See From a Tomb Raider Sequel

J Station X writes

"Around these parts, we’re just a bit fond of Tomb Raider, the origins story that was released to show Lara Croft as a green behind the ears explorer who was neither very good at killing, shooting or not getting herself torn to pieces by particularly pointy bits of metal. We like the gameplay, the characters and the world that is was set in and when I reviewed it a few months ago, I even thought that Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition (the PS4 and Xbox One rerelease of the 2013 game) was a cracking title too.

Obviously, I want more of it and as I’m sure some sort of Yamatai prophecy suggests, you probably do to so here’s a list of the 8 things that we’d like to see from a Tomb Raider sequel."

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-Foxtrot3675d ago (Edited 3675d ago )

"More Rhianna Pratchett"

Hopefully not, her voice acting didn't suite Lara at all in Tomb Raider, she sounded like a 15 year old girl at times and some of her lines came off as cringe worthy ("Oh I hate Tombs"). The screaming and yelling didn't do so well also, I mean it wouldn't be a problem if it was kept at a minimal but with it happening so much she just didn't suite the role at all. They need to get someone that sounds more confident and sounds like a young women, not a young girl.

"3. More Sam, Reyes and Jonah"

We really don't need more characters, Tomb Raider is about Lara and we don't need other characters to get in her way. I think in the next game her butler should be her "communication" guy in the next game which offers her advice and stuff from phone/radio

Honestly what we need to see in the next game is an actual Tomb Raider game and not (sorry to say) a more open Uncharted clone in terms of QTE, life threatening moments, massive action pieces, focus on third person shooting elements etc

The fact the Tombs were optional in Tomb Raider pretty much says it all really

randomass1713675d ago

The game was centered on a young and experienced Lara and she didn't anywhere close to a 15 year old. Her actress did a commendable job. If Lara is the only character then there may as well be no depth to the story at all. Your assessment on the optional tombs I'll concede to.

-Foxtrot3675d ago (Edited 3675d ago )

I never said she looked like one, I said she sounded like one. The voice acting for this game was bad when past Lara voice actresses have been pretty good.

I know she's young but she's supposed to sound like a young woman not a young girl. Some of the lines just sounded off and they would be better off getting a new voice actress.

It was a good game, but as a TOMB RAIDER games it was pretty bad, nothing in this game reminded me that I was playing a Tomb Raider game. It just seemed like a developer trying to one up the Uncharted formula.

" If Lara is the only character then there may as well be no depth to the story at all"

I never said she should be the ONLY character, I said they should reduce it to her, her butler and maybe a third character for the main characters. Villains are a different story altogether.

LKHGFDSA3675d ago

"The game was centered on a young and experienced Lara"
Yeah, WAS. The new one will be the full on ass-kicking Lara that we know and love from the PS1 era.

-Foxtrot3675d ago (Edited 3675d ago )

Unfortunately I've made a massive booboo in my original post above and I've missed a paragraph out.

I was supposed to write about the script writer, Rhianna Pratchett first then after that paragraph start talking about the voice actress.

It seems I've missed the paragraph out, must of deleted it by accident, and it's looked like I'm referring to Rhianna Pratchett as the voice actress to Lara Croft.

I apologize, this is a massive mistake.

Matt6663675d ago (Edited 3675d ago )

Who is this "we" because in my opinion the only good Tomb Raiders are 1-3 if anything they should go back to how it was and improve it from there not completely change it

TitanUp3675d ago

Tomb Raider is different now that is called a remake. Things change, developers are different modern gaming has changed Tomb Raider and I personally love almost everything about the new Tomb Raider game.

People seem to want the same experiences as the old games, DMC is another example of this.

pretty sure the original tomb raider stuff is on steam,ps3,xbox 360.

KyRo3675d ago

Her voice suited the vulnerable Lara perfectly and the 'I hate Tombs' section would of been from a script. She was easily the best voice over of Lara since the beginning. She added emotion to the role while the others were pretty terrible at voice acting.

elninels3675d ago

@foxtrot

"Uncharted clone"... dead on. Very fun, but it definitely followed the third person, epic adventure, set piece, always in danger yet invincible protagonist with one dimensional friends formula.. the same rules as an 80's action flick.

The optional tombs weren't even puzzling. They were an injustice to the name, but at least the game was fun.

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Derekvinyard133675d ago

It would be cool to see more different environments

randomass1713675d ago

Agreed. Maybe bring back the wacky elements of the rest of the series. I want to shoot down a T-Rex in the sequel.

MultiConsoleGamer3675d ago

Spot on. I agree with everything on the list.

_FantasmA_3675d ago

1. nudity
2. non linearity
3. hidden treasures
4. more animal enemies
5. food/survival element that affects stamina and health
6. no multiplayer at all or multiplayer done right
7. higher difficulty
8. nudity

randomass1713675d ago

Bah. Lara doesn't need to be nude. The new Lara demands respect, yo!

Dannycr3675d ago

What I would like to see is decent IA and engaging combat.

This game is faaaaar too easy (on highest difficulty) and the use of firearms is unnecessary entirely. You can resolve all situations with your bow. The IA is a disgrace: you shoot a bad guy and he comes running towards you and hide behind a tree that's right next to you. They are basically cannon fodder, then you get the guys with the shields and all you have to do is press dodge, then attack and they are done.

It's a shame cause the Bow is really fun to use, but the enemies are waaaay too dumb.

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Square Enix Declares $140m Loss Amid Game Pipeline Shakeup

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth publisher Square Enix has declared a $140m loss based on a shakeup of its internal development pipeline.

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Furesis7d ago

What are they doing over there? Sounds like they canceled something big. I read a rumor a while back about ff9 remake . Here "Final Fantasy IX has gone through a very challenging development, the game is still in progress but may undergo changes drastic enough that we won't hear about it for a couple of years."
This could be one of the reasons if the rumor is true. That was Silknight i don't know how credible he is but it's something and it would make sense.

-Foxtrot7d ago

I hope IX is still on the cards

Just a straight up remake which they expand a little bit nothing over ambitious

If IX dosent happen then VI and VIII will never be thought of.

Kakashi Hatake7d ago

6 and 8 were way more p popular games despite today's cult following of 9.

blackbeld6d ago

I want my FF8 remake! Can't believe they cancelled it.

TiredGamer7d ago

What are they doing? Sales are falling and the costs are out of control. Big releases need to be absolute sales home runs now, and Final Fantasy sales have stagnated.

Now we know why Square didn’t fall over themselves to remake the original FF7 all these years ago. It certainly wasn’t a license to print money, at least not with what the expectations were. Each of these full on remakes drains an enormous amount of company resources for a razor thin profit margin.

TwoPicklesGood7d ago

Breaking the game up into multiple parts was a mistake IMO.

blackblades7d ago

The loses came from cancelling games nothing else.

Tapani6d ago

They lost the magic in the remakes. And the story is incomplete. The original FF7 is still way better. The Remake / Rebirth are just fan service. Like an Anime/Manga with "optional" filler content. FF7 had pretty much zero filler, it was paced extremely well, and still today flows much better than the grindy story and spongey enemy battles in the remakes.

babadivad6d ago

If they released it at once on all platforms, they would have made all of their money back. Could have been on to an FF8 or 9 remake. Ready to cash in again on nostalgia like Capcom. This is their fault for trying to milk the title.

Once I head they were breaking it up into parts, I lost all interest.

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neutralgamer19926d ago

I hope people understand usually when a loss is declared it means a game which had been in development got cancelled. For example Sony Santa Monica before GOW-PS4 had cancelled a project which Sony had spent 7 figures on

As far as square is concerned they release a bad game once a year. Forspoken anyone?

For those making comments on remake not selling well, I hope y’all realize that Sony is the only reason this remake is happening. If Sony didn’t fund it the remake wouldn’t be happening. Just like Konami didn’t want to remake SH2 because development costs of 100 plus million

shadowT7d ago

Do not miss Final Fantasy 16. Great game!

raWfodog7d ago

I'm waiting for them to release the complete edition bundle, but it's definitely on my list.

PhillyDonJawn7d ago

Wth is going on with the gaming industry?

mandf7d ago

Corporate investors taking everything

TiredGamer7d ago

Not rocket science. Compare sales numbers, development cycles, and budgets to the previous gens. We are all collectively burning up the industry from the inside out. Expectations are ludicrously high now for every release and sales are dropping for even the most prestigious of series.

We used to be satisfied paying $50-60 for a game that took 1/100th the budget and staff to make. Now gamers feel cheated if they have to pay the same for a game that took 100x the budget. We may be reaching the end of the line for this model of gaming.

wiz71917d ago

@tiredgamer I think your point is one that ppl don’t understand and you hit it on the nose .. some gamers don’t want to take accountability but it’s some of the gamers fault the industry is where it’s at .. we as gamers set the standards for the industry not the shareholders , ppl forget that the shareholders and the industry want and need OUR Money. Both the Xbox and PlayStation are seeing a drop in hardware , the industry is very stagnant right now.

Tacoboto7d ago

Speaking to Square:

Turns out their mismanagement wasn't related to the western studios they dumped to Embracer, but their own fault.

With regards to Xbox - a good way to kill your brand is to pull support on high quality titles and only dump B and C-tier titles to it

With regards to PC - Epic Games Story exclusivity for any duration and piss-poor optimization will hurt you.

With regards to FF Pixel Remasters - y'all messed up by barely releasing them on physical, like wtf that was free money!

And lastly, you don't help a franchise by releasing a mainline title that undermines every title that came before it. FFXVI was a DMC-like with bottom-of-the-barrel side quests and I can't imagine that helping Rebirth at all considering its marketing is directly tied to how big that game is.

Tacoboto7d ago

Sony is getting their best titles and with the most polish, so what about it? Nintendo gets their top properties too, for titles that can run on Switch hardware.

It's the other fanbases that get the second- and third-class treatment from Square. If that's due to agreements with Sony, that's not a Sony issue but a Square one for accepting those terms. Sony is doing its best to look out for Sony.

wesnytsfs6d ago

sales and stupid practices like exclusives.

TiredGamer7d ago

The industry implosion is continuing. Sky high budgets, prolonged development windows, stagnant sales numbers, and falling currency values (inflation) are wreaking havoc on the legacy industry. AAA games will slowly become the rarity.

CS77d ago

Sad. Rebirth was one of my favorite games in a long time. Should have sold more.

CrimsonWing697d ago

Oh I’m with you. What’s worse is they can say, “Well we tried to make this amazing game and spend all this money on, but not enough people showed an interest. So no more of these since we can’t take a hit like that.”

The industry is going to take a dramatic shift. Mark my words on this.

rpvenom7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

I think there is quite a large portion of individuals like myself who held out on buying it on PS5 because I can get it on PC eventually. To be able to mod the game and also have custom graphical settings to my liking

gold_drake7d ago

same

but im not sure if it matters at all. im sure they made sony pay a hefty sum for the 3parter to come on ps5 exclusively. so watever they made in sales, might have come bk in profits for square, but i dont know
and we dont know what "underperformed" even means for square.

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Square & Bandai Namco Being Honest About Quality Is A Step In The Right Direction

Saad from eXputer: "After suffering from massive financial hits, Square Enix & Bandai Namco appear to be turning over a new leaf but I'm still unconvinced."

Nerdmaster8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I was talking about games with some Japanese guys here in Japan, and it seems like around here Bandai Namco has a fame of making low-quality games, with the occasional gem.

About Square Enix, I believe they lack the capacity to improve. They should learn with Capcom (although even Capcom still makes some bad mistakes), but I don't think they ever will. They keep chasing whatever is new at the time (blockchain, AI...) to say "we innovate", without considering the public perception and if these things actually improve the games or not. Them releasing too many small games with no advertising also shows a lack of trust in its own products. Even with their biggest games, like turning FF into an action game with XVI and the very divisive plot changes regarding whispers and timelines in VII Remake, shows them trying to attract a new generation of gamers without understanding what made the series so big in the first place.

shinoff21838d ago

I want a true ff7 remake. With thatcsaid I'm way happier with 7 remake then I was with ff16. I'd still prefer turn based but square keep chasing these Lil kids

Snookies128d ago

Man, it is perfectly fine to prefer turn based. Turn based is amazing. But there's zero reason to call anyone who likes action games "lil kids". Liking one gameplay system over another does not make you more mature in any way.

VersusDMC8d ago

People love the new FF's overall...the problem is the abundance of 7's they release that lose money or make very little like diofield, star ocean divine force, Valkyrie asylum, harvestella, foam stars, etc. Advertising wouldn't have saved those games. Apparently Forespoken had a big Advertising budget but we saw how that went.

shinoff21838d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Star ocean divine force actually sold well from what I've read not ff type numbers but well enough. Was a dope game to.

FinalFantasyFanatic8d ago

Bandai Namco is going to Bandai Namco, I do believe that Square Enix can't change without changing the entire management, they've had these issues for more than a decade and haven't learnt, I have very little faith they can course correct. I'll still buy their better remasters/remakes like Star Ocean 2 though (not FF7R).

Asterphoenix8d ago

Namco is just milking the same Sword Art Online with lack of budget as well as anime IPs that don't go to decent developers like Jujutsu Kaisen and My Hero Academia. Namco deserves their losses and no future Dot Hack or Xenosaga remaster :(.

Square allocated lot of their budget on Forspoken was a mistake. Square always had management issues. Star Ocean 2 was a great remake and I found their recent entries of FF(16 and Rebirth) better than 13 and 15.
I think they were better than 360/PS3 generation where Square went really downhill.

CrimsonWing698d ago

I don’t know why NOW they decide on this, but I guess later is better than never.

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I’m Glad Atlus & SE Changed Dates To Avoid Competing With Shadow Of The Erdtree

Saad from eXputer: "I'm glad I don't have to choose between Square Enix, Atlus, and FromSoftware due to bad release windows and Shadow of the Erdtree."

H914d ago

More intelligent than guerilla games

raWfodog13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Atlus is releasing their game one week before Erdtree, SE is releasing theirs one week after.

HZD released four days before Zelda, HFW released one week before Elden Ring.

It seems to me like they are still releasing their games too close to Erdtree.

VincentVanBro12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

What a word vomit, rambling, turd of an article that simply states the obvious. Classic exputer.