In anticipation for tonight's game trailers blowout of the killzone shadow fall campaign, here is a sneak peak into the new footage!
It's been 10 years since Killzone: Shadow Fall arrived for PlayStation 4 early adopters, and there's no sign of another sequel.
Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer.
lmao sadly? Are you pretending to have actually played the series lol Sorry bud, no Killzone on Xbox.
They brought out 4 main games and 2 spin offs: one on PSP and one on Vita. That's a decent run for any series. I also understand that Shadow Fall wasn't a success commercially despite it coming out at PS4 launch, and as a big Killzone fan even I couldn't get into it, so I think Sony/Guerrilla could see it was time to move on.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love another Killzone game in the vein of KZ2 but it's just not happening. Hell, I'd even take a remake or remaster of the first 3 games.
I'd hardly say it was "dumped" though, it spanned 3 console generations and 2 handheld generations.
@obscured:”Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer”
Happily it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer( edited to reflect the writer true feelings and allegiance)
Kill zone was a FPS far ahead of its glitched competitors with nauseating bad camera angles, 10 years old screaming curses like a drunk sailor and bot aiming assist.
“Sadly”?
The Horizon games were among the best games of all time. Killzone Shadowfail wasn’t.
True, but damn the memories of KZ2 multiplayer. Still no MP as fun as that to this date.
And Sony as a whole dumped the FPS genre so they wouldn't have products competing with COD and (until purchase) Destiny.
I loved the KZ2+3 campaigns and MP in 2. There could be so much more done with the franchise. Horizon although good, I wish they'd go back to this wonderful IP. Take a break from Horizon please.
Agreed dude, I would absolutely love a reboot of the series, one can only hope that either resistance or killzone makes a return.
Have nothing but great memories, especially of the first 3 games, but all 4 were show stoppers graphically.
To making it a successful reboot they have to change that buttons layout! Make it playable like the cod button layout. Otherwise I’ll skipping it again.
And that's the reason why many fps games failed. Instead of being original and catering to it's fans, they tried to make it like cod. No, kz doesn't need cod button layout. It needs to be like it was on kz2 or balanced liked kz3.
I think Kill Zone would do great in Sony's LS push. As well as MAG reboot and bring back Resistance into LS.
Killzone games were so polished. The gameplay was just simple joy. MP was one of the best experiences.
I remember KZ3, just staring at how awesome they animated the water and then getting wasted because of it.
I would love another killzone in the same spirit as KZ2 with the focus on physic, destruction and attention to detail. But logically I know they're not dropping Horizon anytime soon
I want a third game (I really love this series except for the non stop talking from Aloy) then they can do whatever they like.
Overall, I love the series as well. Agreed, Aloy needed to stuff a sock in it. And the writing could have been better. Hated the fact she was so condescending towards the male characters... and of course, several were wrongfully scripted as dolts.
You forgot Resistance as well another great dormant ip that is hibernating. Out of the two I like Killzone but I love Resistance.
Oh yes that definitely needs to be brought back. Honestly I think getting a remake of the first game even would be pretty awesome
Killzone 1 was mediocre.
Killzone 2 was clunky but fun enough.
Killzone 3 was less clunkier and funner than 2. The best in the series for sure. Which is not saying much, but still.
Killzone: Mediocre Fall was a lolfest of wasted potential and absolute mediocrity.
At least the Horizon series is...fine. Lacking, but fine...Yay?
As a primary Playstation user I would've gladly given up Mehzone for Halo. Even Halo Infinite is better than all Killzone games combined. Which is just sad.
C'est la vie.
Killzone played very different to halo, I mean they are fps games but very different all the same.e
I love both series and would love a new killzone & halo!!
For me the feel of the gunplay wasn't the issue, I actually enjoy the heaviness of it, but the game and level design. It was a one note, linear, and mostly boring affair. All around an extremely mediocre FPS. Ever played the game BLACK? Cuz that game was more Killzone than Killzone itself.
When it comes to Shadow Fall, it showed the direction the franchise could've gone and the possibilities but instead it proceeded to fall flat on it's face.
Like I said, Killzone was mediocre since the first one and while I doubt they'll get back to the series, if they do, they have a lot of catching up to do in the game and level design department.
If you ask me Killzone should look at Black and Red Faction for the destruction department and then look at Halo, especially Reach/ODST, for the grandiosity of it all. Or maybe even like a Road trip type game like Metro Exodus with big Open Areas to explore and some of that Cinematic Linear areas in order to appease Sony. there are plenty of great example out there is all I'm saying.
They can keep the heaviness and grounded gameplay intact, but the rest need a comprehensive reboot no doubt.
Black was awesome, as was red faction!!!
It's an absolute crying shame that proper destruction in games digressed rather than processed.
I remember mercenaries which also let you blow up whole buildings which was fricking sickkkkkk!
But yea killzone series wasn't perfect and each to there own but I still love that franchise would love to see it return.
Killzone 3 nearly killed the franchise with it being CODified so to speak. Killzone 2 multiplayer was a completely original multiplayer experience that wasnt found in any other other fps at the time. The Warzone mode was a bit of team fortress and battlefield and was best thing to come out at the time....nowadays if you mention Warzone people just think of COD's Battle royale....ugh....
CODified or not, Killzone 3 still played better than the lagfest that was 2. Which made it an easier and funner time to get through. Again, not saying much, but it is what it is.
As for the multiplayer, I didn't played much of it and couldn't care less to be honest. Multiplayer was just a waste of resources as far as I'm concerned and the last thing they should care about.
There are plenty of games that could serve as a good template or starting point for Killzone, the devs just need to realize this.
I think killzone should make a return I loved them, yeh shadowfall was meh but hey maybe a return means Sony can actually make a trailer that is actual gameplay this time lol
I've been asking for a killzone 2 remaster for years and years and years....nothing crazy like a remake...just a simple remaster.....Same with the resistance franchise....socom..... :(
SOCOM got so screwed with the PSN outage right on release. Granted, SOCOM 4 was still a step down for the series either way but the memories from SOCOM 2 are still so good. I actually got some SOCOM vibes from Factions so I hope that game ends up coming out
KZ2 and KZ3 were really good games, especially, the MP part. The MP part was unique and different, people complained about the heavy movement/weight of guns, and started to compare the game to COD.
Shadowfall, in my opinion, is the worst entry in the series. It went away with what made KZ2 and KZ3 enjoyable and unique. Nonetheless, from Sales perspective, Shadowfall sold more copies because the game was a console launch game.
I hope Sony gets a new entry in series, if not, at least a remake of KZ2.
Apparently supermassive were contracted to make killzone VR for the original psvr however Sony was unhappy with the progress so they took it back in house and it's allegedly being worked on for psVR2.
I really hope it's true as both the franchise and the psvr deserve a high profile release
In addition since cod is now firmly a Microsoft property I can see Sony go back to forming a full blown fps game again to compete Bungie would be an excellent studio for a new offline shooter if they ever get off live service island
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I would love to see it return, but if it isn't a new game, I'm not interested.
Killzone 2 MP was sensational, 3 was great too, shame Shadowfall was a disappointment. Would love to see a return but don't think it'll ever happen, same with Resistance.
The respective studios are (as far as we know) working on Horizon MP and Wolverine.
I'd like a Battlefield inspired Killzone MP game, with dropships and Mechs to boot.
Killzone has always launched with cutting edge graphics, so i'm sure the next will be a showcase.
I feel like once Guerilla realized that the vast majority of people sympathized with the helghast, and the helghast being a very on the nose particular collection of real world references, that realization scared them from ever wanting to pick it up again. Killzone 3 really came off as a deliberate attempt to get people to dislike the helghast with far less nuanced written characters seen in 2. Instead replaced with cartoonish villains. Despite even that people still liked the helghast over the ISA.
I really don't care for FPS games, but I really enjoyed KZ2's multiplayer (campaign was fun too, but the multiplayer was just good, mad fun).
I would say they might want to try to get Bluepoint to remake KZ2 OR let Bungie develop a live service KZ. Why not do some kind of Destiny x KZ collaboration that balances both universes? Could be interesting.
At the very least a remastered collection along side Resistance and the InFamous. It's just strange how they want to forget about or not even acknowledge at all at times about PS2 and 3 Gen games.
Man I fucking loved Killzone, but they really dropped the ball with the story tbh. Still, I definitely wouldn't mind a revival.
I think Sony should hand this over to bungie and say you remember Halo? Do that again with killzone.
I want them to bring this series back so bad, but with the multiplayer style of KZ2. That was so much fun, and I tend to hate FPS. Shadow Fall had an interesting ending though. I'm sure I'm one of the few that actually liked the game.... I also want M.A.G. to come back too lol
It'll be great for Sony to convince their studios to bring back Killzone & the Resistance games. Infamous should make a return as well.
Killzone was a fantastic series. Loved the campaigns, and the mp for 2 & 3 were fantastic! Loved the weighty feel of the guns. Shadowfall deserved more credit than it got. That said, they changed up the mp entirely and it never really hooked me.
Guerilla needs to rebirth the Killzone universe... or have they already?!
Anyone else think there is a connection to the Horizon universe? Didn't an "ark" or two leave earth to escape pre-Zero Dawn? Anyone recall Killzone's brief origin story?
It'd be pretty sweet if Guerilla story-merged these two ips.
If they put some care and thought into a gritty, dark campaign that's well written with an improved version KZ2 multiplayer would be a massive hit. KillZone V for the PS5 could be a monster but we can only imagine now.
"We're going to be continuing it for a very long while"
Curious to know more about these "plans". I assume many will be expansions (dlc) while they will at some point release a full horizon 3 or maybe even 4.
Wasn't there word about a show to at some point I thought I remembered seeing something. 16 is a pretty high number lol. I like the series though , I liked it the most of what Sony brought new on ps4.
It's kind of difficult with the way they have the game set up. Everything is built around her being "the one" and the savior of humanity. They definitely Mary Sued the series into a corner. Unless they come out with the co-op robot hunter game based in their Horizon world that was talked about then there could have somewhere else to go with the series but even then everyone would have to ignore the world dying around them to make it work.
Exploring the detailed biomes was my fav part of the game, especially gliding and (later on) flying, and underwater was amazing too. I’ll explore another open world from GG day one.
Agreed. I enjoyed Aloy in Zero Dawn, but the personality she has taken on after becoming “the savior” is in my personal opinion unlikable and unrelatable.
Here's what I'm ready for: play as a rough dude in the Horizon universe. Less flowery dialog, more Just Cause blowing things up?
Would be a nice change of pace imo
Your “rough dude” game is “Horizon Call of the Mountain on PSVR2”. Great game. A “rough dude” protagonist like the Doom Slayer wouldn’t work for a main Horizon game because the overall story requires the protagonist to be an outside thinker, cerebral, and empathetic enough to build a coalition of allies. It would be like putting Doom Slayer in “Raiders of the Lost Ark. Sure, he’d kill a lot of Nazis, but he would never find the Ark or save anyone.
I mean, there can be multiple stories in a universe like Horizon. You could put doom slayer in a parallel story involving a horde of corrupted machines led by a mad man as an example.
No thanks. Go play Just Cause for that. Horizon isn't about mindless, blow stuff up, action. The story, dialog and characters of this world are what make it special and Aloy is a fantastic protagonist. Coupled with that, you already have awesome gameplay in fighting amazingly designed robotic enemies (the human enemies, however, need some work). It's perfect the way it is and as long as they keep evolving on their current path, then it'll be wonderful.
I love this franchise but Jesus...take a chill pill
Look what happened to Killzone, they got success and it was Killzone, Killzone, Killzone, Killzone, Killzone until eventually the quality slowly dropped, it started to become samey and we just got so fatigued by the Killzone Universe that most lost any excitement for it.
I'd rather they take a break, work on a new IP, get some new ideas going with that game and then when the PS6 comes around as a launch game do Horizon III with all the new fresh ideas you've learnt from the last new IP
I wouldn't mind a new Killzone universe game come of think of it... I'd like to see Playstation create at least 1 FPS this gen.
2 Games in 5 years needs a chill pill? We really haven't gotten all that much for the series. Perhaps you just read too many Horizon articles.
It is crazy how people constantly complain about how games were better and less rushed 10-20 years ago, ignoring the fact that we often used to get sequels to games every two years or so. Now you get a sequel 4-7 years after a game launched and people start screaming about franchise fatigue and how the devs are driving the series into the ground.
VR game, TV show in the works, the bird game, Horizon III coming, the multiplayer game, they are talking about other things
Come on…this is just the start
@ Foxtrot
"VR game, TV show in the works, the bird game, Horizon III coming, the multiplayer game, they are talking about other things "
Because all those things are coming out this year? What on earth is the bird game? Horizon 3 and the Live service game are many many years away like 2025 or later and the TV show you simply don't have to watch if you don't want to. There are many other franchises that need a bigger chill pill than Horizon. Call of Duty and Assassins Creed being the top 2.
This, don't give people franchise fatigue, I love the games, but if they just keep hammering out more HZD, people are going to get sick of it. I would be up for a Netflix series though as long as it's good, and a new game in a few years would be fine with me.
While this may be true, I thought the death of Killzone was more due their failure to stick to what worked. KZ2 was the best Killzone, but they completely scrapped the feel of that with KZ3, which tried to be a COD clone.
You really can't win sometimes though. If a series takes ages between installments people complain this is 2 in 5 years, I don't consider that bad. We got GTA 3, Vice City and San Andreas within 3 years, I don't remember anyone complaining then
Development times back then compared to now are completely different
You could wait years for a sequel but there still might not e that many improvements that REALLY sets it apart
Forbidden West was pushing it, it had a few new things but by the end of the game it didn’t really have enough to really set it apart from the first game in terms of features (not graphics, visuals etc).
If we get a third game even if it takes 4 years I don’t know what else they could add in that games setting. They are better off doing a new IP for now and keep the sequel for later.
I'm all for more great content. But don't be pulling a Yu Suzuki "Shenmue." And I love Shenmue. Still waiting for chapters. Lol.
Games, maybe a movie, TV show.... anime?? a novel, various merchandise, collaborations with franchises like Genshin Impact
I really like Horizon but we could use a break from Horizon. Guerilla should give us something new/original. Hell..a new Killzone would be nice. Constantly releasing or overdoing Horizon games will start to become tiring & boring.
It's enough for now. A new title should be announced. Give Horizon some time off for a few years, let people miss it then bring on another Horizon title.
Hopefully at least 2 more major games lol don't do what Ubisoft is doing with ac, one game going back to the roots then have numerous other ac titles in development, quality is VERY important and this series is one that has that all around, space type exploration would be nice, imagine boss battles in a ship or something 🤷🏽 also some darker elements too zombie/monstrous machines that reside somewhere
Do me a solid and make an Arrow DC game in Lian Yu and Star City as a side project.
And there you have the problems with success, miliking it to death. A damm shame their engine is stuck for only two IPs when alot of smaller new AA games with wide a variety of different genres could be made. Instead you're stuck with a 3rd person ass creed-esque action adventure game and a 3rd person exploration TPS. What a waste.
Look I like Horizon and everything played the hell out of both 1 and 2 but I do want to see some new IP or hell even a new Killzone.
More, please. I was watching “See” with my family and we talked about similar the set up was to Horizon. I love the idea of these tribal communities surrounded by sky scrapers and futuristic robot animals. There is so much of this world yet to explore.
No. That's way too much. Why is it every developer wants to crush their own IP's. Run them into the ground until people are put off by the name of them. Naughty Dog did this with Uncharted too. Which was a great series and now even the name of it makes me cringe.
Honestly the first Horizon was like a 7/10 for me. Forbidden West is ridiculously good though, especially on PS5, just holy shit I can’t wait for more Horizon and I’m over 100 hours in. Actually playing through God of War now and yeah, it’s neck and neck for amazingly addictive combat.
A Horizon MMO, how very interesting. I can see Guerrilla sticking with this IP for a long time and not making anything else/
Hope one of those idea's are to have options to turn off forced puzzle hints and lower the amount she talks to herself
Horizon Midday Accessible North East (aka Horizon 12). You investigate the history of the machine's origins (yet again).
Override machines (again) Go into Pits (again), deal with clone drama (again) and battle metal stuff with arrows and other wooden and sharp-pointed weapons.
It really would not even matter how many games they crap out at this point. It's going to be more of the same. Forbidden West is neat in its location design, the rest is dim and boring as F.
The silicon valley tech-giant post-apocalypse theme is beaten to death by the second game. After the reveal that the bad guy was Jeff Bezos and a crew of floating Amazon executives (may as well have been, the story logic was just that stupid), that basically ended any hope for the series. The major plot reveal in this game is laughter. And damn, that floaty Jeff and his army of amazon warriors was funny as hell. Tilda, not so much. The Ideas department is dry. Next.
The best thing about the Horizon series is that it usually heralds the arrival of a vastly superior game and a true classic.
So...Nooice!
ehhhhhhhh if they're gonna drop another 200 million i'd rather a new IP or a new Killzone game tbh. Or a more linear Uncharted-esque Horizon game? I don't know. Something different. Horizon's sweet but I think a ton of gamers have open world fatigue in general which is why we're seeing stuff like Assassins Creed returning to its roots.
Jesus Christ... Not sure doing the Kathleen Kennedy thing and milking it til we hate it is a good idea. Games need finality or they get stale. Plus I'm sure the devs don't want to be working on this franchise til they die.
I actually would of loved a game around sylens always found him the most interesting character in the horizon world unfortunately I don't see that ever happening
I loved the first two mainline games but the game needs more than aloy saves the day again
Please! No! The first two are great along with the DLC but PLEASE let it rest. Bring back Killzone V for the PS5 for a new behemoth exclusive. Don't you guys want money or are you just retarded at this point?
Narrative director Ben McCaw and lead writer Annie Kitain discuss the future of the series and the passing of Lance Reddick.
Already seeing the next installment from Guerrilla:
Horizon: The search of the great camel
:D
I hope they don’t just kill Sylens off or he just decides to leave with how FW ended.
I feel like Lance would want his character to get a proper ending
*Spoilers*
They were setting him up to help you in the next one, he had the chance to leave Earth and he didn’t take it, he decided to stay.
Can't Wait.
Damn this game looks amazing, bring it on!
Wow looks insane
Foshizzle my nizzle can't wait,
It starts in five hours, correct?