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Xbox One or PlayStation 4? Whichever You Choose, You Win

Gamebrit writes: "Back in May Microsoft’s Xbox One was unveiled at a special media event, bringing with it a number of ill-favoured key policies, such as enforced Digital Rights Management (DRM), a compulsory Kinect camera and a £429 price tag (the latter of which was announced at E3). As a result of these unpopular decisions Sony’s PlayStation 4 quickly became the leading ‘next-gen’ choice in many gamers minds.

However, a lot has changed since then, with us now arriving at a point where things are a lot more even. So, with the playing field levelling out, does it really matter which ‘side’ you pick?"

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ABeastNamedTariq4328d ago

Oh, most definitely. I can't wait until November.

Hopefully everybody will just focus on playing their new systems and finally shutup. At least for a while.

Shadowsteal4328d ago

Nope lol People are going to start citing reviews of Forza vs DriveClub
Knack
Killer Instinct
Ryse
Killzone: Shadowfall etc.

ShugaCane4328d ago

And those people will be happy (or stubbornly pretend to be) with their own choices of game, so I guess "Whichever you choose, you win" says it right.

theBAWSE4328d ago

Microsoft have abandoned two consoles in a row

They suck you in with third party exclusive games in the beginning, once they have they couldn't give a toss as their newer shinier toy is on the horizon

People have short memories it's deja vue for a third time

No thank you Microsoft I'll stick with the ps3 which still has new ips coming out and buy the ps4 when I've finished

BallsEye4327d ago

@theBAWSE

Shut up. People like you made this site go down low. I could give you million reasons why you got short memory about sony but I won't. Go figure yourself and get lost. As you see this article is written for people who buy their own toys.

n4rc4327d ago

Drop 30 grand on a car and have the warranty end after 5 years.. Then come talk to me about product life cycles...

People spend a few hundred bucks on a game and expect a decade of support...

humbleopinion4327d ago

If by "abandoning" you mean 7+ years of first party games, I'd love to be abandoned like that every generation.

I'd say that Microsoft only started abandoning the 360 after Horizon, Halo 4 and the latest Gears around march this year (although there's still a flux of indie XBLA games).
Sony still offers quality games and will probably continue into at least early 2014, but they started offering the console and their games one year later as well.

So overall Xbox 360 2005-2013 VS PS3 2006-2014. Both offered around 8 years of quality games, which is more than I can say about any previous generation since the NES era.

mcstorm4327d ago

@humbleopinion I agree and for me the Wiiu should also be included in this. I don't get the fan boys on here a lot of the time. Owning a games console is like owning any other electronic device and why people get up tight over them I don't know. I own a surface but don't go round telling everyone who has an iPad or android that there crap and List reasons. We have choice for a reason as we all like different things.

For me the next 12 months is about the Wiiu and Xbox one and I will pick a ps4 up later on next year.

NewZealander4327d ago

@theBAWSE

thats a weak attempt bro, everyone knows the focus is on the new consoles, thats exactly where i want to see MS focus their attention right now.

im having plenty of fun catching up on games i missed, and looking forward to fable anniversary as being my farewell to the 360.

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NatureOfLogic4328d ago

Not really. If you support Xbox One, you support MS. Who tried to single handly ruin gaming as we know it. Most can forgive all they want. MS have to prove to me over a long period of time now.

Gster4328d ago

If MS had have played "Ballmore" thing could have been very different. Alas, whats "Don" is "Don". It doesn't really "Mattrick" anymore. But if the "Shuehei" was on the other foot, MS would "Cerney" be looking down at Sony, and the xbox1 would definitely "Tretton" ps4 for top spot! :P

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come_bom4328d ago (Edited 4328d ago )

"If you support Xbox One, you support MS. Who tried to single handly ruin gaming as we know it."

Dumbest thing I've heard today. Seriously! Grow up fanboy.

deadie4328d ago

@come_bom:

Where have you been the last 4 months?

Yeah it was kinda "dumb" - by Microsoft.

Umb4328d ago

I think that's the kind of attitude MS is banking on, where people will easily forget about the past or just gloss over it by saying: but they made all these changes. Making reversals on bad decision is not the point, the point is the intent is was there at the very beginning and changes were only made not because of the outcry by the consumers but rather by the potential loss of market share MS saw from the preorder results.

Just like many governments of this world, we only care about you when it will ensure will we win office in the election and once we get into office we do what we want!

Dude Dutch4327d ago

@come bom

Typical comment from somebody who joined 9 days ago. Did you start gaming 9 days ago?

Foxhound9224327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

Oh you're one of those people aren't you? The people who like restrictions, pay walls, no game support, required internet, 24 hr check ins, and most of all, being bent over I suppose. If you can remember, Microsoft wanted all of these things, and sadly still has a few of these. The ONLY reason they reversed some of there most infamous policies was because that they are getting their a$$es handed to them in preorders. I guess your one of the people who really know how to "dealwithit#"

n4rc4327d ago

Sigh... Give it a rest...

None of it ever happened.. And even if it did, its not ruining gaming.. In any way shape or form..

You continue to ignore every single benefit of those policies and act like they were just put their to screw people.. If you haven't noticed.. Microsoft doesn't make billions of dollars a year by ruining the internet and your home office!

Let's all forget about Sony removing Linux support after selling the feature.. Or the cinava protection blocking playback of movies or how about just losing my credit card number??

Let's talk about shit that actually happened!

Its pathetic.. You need to stop but I know you won't.. Nothing better to do..

stage884327d ago

So soon people forget.
I bet the guys at Microsoft are laughing their heads off now.

It'll take a long time before i trust them again.

come_bom4327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

Well... guess I'll have to explain what I meant, since some people are too slow to understand. I wasn't bashing Microsoft not was I agreeing with their policies. The dumbest thing is claiming that Microsoft single handily tried to ruin gaming as we know it... Microsoft doesn't have that power, nor Sony, nor Nintendo. If Microsoft implemented those policies they WOULDN'T have ruined gaming as we know it. It was simply a different approach to gaming, something similar to Steam, Google store or Apple store. It was up to consumers to choose if they are interested or not in their console with those policies... most consumers were against their policies, so Microsoft changed them to please consumers. Simple as that. Every company tries to sell their product to the most consumers they can. Microsoft does it, Sony does it, Nintendo does it.

deadie4327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

@come_bom: Well they might not have "the power" (?) but they did in fact try & they failed. Big time.

If you dont understand why forced policies and control over your potential consumers is a bad thing then i guess youre kind of slow.

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Funantic14328d ago

You forgave Sony for the 77 million hacks and shutting down PSN for a month didn't you? That was way worse than anything MS ever did. And at least the 180s by MS was before launch. I forgive both companies for their mistakes. They both could make more in the future. They'll both sell fine. And they both make each other better.

M-M4328d ago

You say it like the PS3, Wii, and 360 weren't hacked in some sort of way. People spewing "Sony got hacked for a month!" don't even know the story behind it, my goodness.

RiPPn4328d ago

Your statement makes it sound like Sony was the one that did the hacking. That's like blaming a woman who got her purse snatched for the theft.

Sony has had it's faults I do agree, but the writing has been on the wall with Microsoft for years, the Xbox One controversy just shined a giant light on what people have long suspected.

LOGICWINS4328d ago

If that purse had the financial records/identities of 77 million people who trusted her with that information, she shouldn't have been in a position where there was even a remote possibility of her being robbed.

B-radical4327d ago

Yup true Sony's security better be up to scratch next gen a whole bunch of gta has leaked because of it...but to some thats not a bad thing

saint_seya4327d ago

How many lost money, accounts on psn? oh right Noone did, and tbh its easier to buy gold memeber accounts than psn on the internet.. SO WHO IS THE ONE GETTING HACKED.. Ill give u clue, starts with x and ends with box #if u dont believe me check on google, if u know how to use it u will see that.
Damn scammers/hackers are #or at least were# selling gold accounts.. AND BTW, our psn accounts were free, but GOLD ACCOUNTS been sold were paid for poor guys that lost money.
And btw check on the people that was telling that they couldnt take their credit cards from autorenew with MS #ms playing around to keep the autorenew#. Add that to people that is selling gold accounts, thats a great combo..

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M-M4328d ago

Dang man can you chill out lol, I agree with you but articles like this don't call for posts like that.

EXVirtual4328d ago

Nature, I agree with you, but now's not the time or article to post that.

marloc_x4327d ago

If you feel Sony has no interest in DRM, best someone give you a pinch and wake you up..

dark-hollow4327d ago

You just can't fight the urge to shit on anything ms related.

dannylilley4327d ago

I think that's a fair comment but as I pointed out in the article that comes under personal (as opposed to subjective) preference, something you're 100% entitled to. On a strictly console feature set topic however both consoles are far more similar than they once were.

Maybe Microsoft will win you over eventually but if not I'm sure Sony will be glad to have you onboard :)

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PSNintyGamer4328d ago

Yep, Which ever one you choose your a winner. Don't let any haters or fanboys tell you different.

Automatic794328d ago

Gamers want to enjoy games. Both systems offer excellent games. We all win.

GenericNameHere4328d ago

Fanboy P: Look! So and so gave this game a *insert favorable score here*!!
Fanboy X: Well, so and so have THIS game a *insert great score here*!
Fanboys P: Look at the Metacritic! This game got a *score*!
Fanboys X: Oh yeah, well this game has better textures. *Insert performance site here* said so!

Rinse and repeat. Sometimes, their roles get reversed, and Fanboy P says Fanboys X's line, and vice versa. This will repeat next gen, the gen after that, and every gen after that. You can never win if you only have one.

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‘I think Xbox hardware is dead’, says Microsoft gaming veteran

One of the founding members of the Xbox team has questioned Microsoft’s multiplatform gaming strategy, and said they believe the Xbox hardware business is effectively “dead"

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Goodguy011d 5h ago

Think that rumor that they'll still make a new console but at a profit at $1000 will be true though. The series consoles will remain their cheap alternative throughout next gen I would say. Keep in mind that game pass and pretty much going 3rd party is their main focus. They want to bring xbox everywhere.

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GamerRN9h ago

If they don't maintain some kind of console presence, I think they will lose gamepass subscribers and just become a 3rd party publisher who eventually sells everything off

Cacabunga8h ago

Xbox games are releasing on all platforms. Who needs this hardware? PS or PC is all you need

Flewid6386h ago

I've never owned an Xbox in my life and I have GamePass.

thorstein5h ago

The only Xbox I owned was the 360. I have gamepass for my PC.

GamerRN57m ago

Majority of Gamepass users are currently on console...

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crazyCoconuts7h ago

Even if they could get it down to $800 for a box that can run with comparable performance to a PS6 (at, say $200 cheaper) the population of people willing to buy such a thing would be so limited.
It would be the worst of both worlds.

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Futureshark18h ago

A slow, painful and public death too.

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils2d ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent751d 11h ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils1d 3h ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai3d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning773d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher2d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor2d ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde2d ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z1d 19h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey861d 14h ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer6d ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30006d ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer6d ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger6d ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30006d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole6d ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto6d ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing696d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif6d ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing696d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif6d ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot6d ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast6d ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts6d ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto6d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos6d ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo5d ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner5d ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Are you and Anast the same person?

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