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Does Microsoft Deserves Kudos For Addressing Many of The Concerns About the Xbox One?

Skewed and Reviewed has posted an opinion piece that suggests that Microsoft should be given kudos for the way they have handled the Xbox One after their early stumbles with the system.
The article praises their willingness to listen to consumers an change several features of the system pre-launch such as the DRM and Kinect requirement.

xReDeMpTiOnx3918d ago

No they don't deserve kudos. They owe the gamers a reasonable consumer friendly system without speed bumps as such as they have had. The consumers is what makes sure that Microsoft has a market for consoles and they should be treated in such a way to continue having a successful console market.

If anything they owe consumers an apology for the way they presented the Xbox to consumers basically tell then they were SOL if they didnt agree with the policies.

golding893918d ago

Spin it any way you want but MS could have easily go with the mandatory kinect sell the system that way. Overtime those people who wants to play xbox games would have had to deal with it. but the fact that they did address them says they are listening.

Some will say it's pre-order sales but bottom line is everyone company wants to make money.

Godmars2903918d ago

"Spin it any way you want but MS could have easily go with the mandatory kinect sell the system that way."

If they had, if they had kept with most of their original plans, they would have been looking at a lot of negative backlash. That there were - are - some people who would have bought the console regardless is besides the point.

Just as it is that some will continue to denounce or refuse to forgive MS for their mistakes. Just like some still don't forgive Sony for an offhanded comment made years ago.

Ashlen3918d ago

Would have had to deal with it by buying a PS4 you mean. Which is pretty much what happened, and why PS4 is basically outselling Xbox by 40% in North America.

Listening would have been making the change around the time they were firing Adam Orth.

NukaCola3918d ago (Edited 3918d ago )

MS should of admitted they messed up but they just spin PR and inadvertently dig deeper holes. Even though the PS3 was successful Sony still came out this generation excited yet humble. MS was arrogant and open about how little they cared for games. Now they are clearly are caving into whatever anyone says because they were looking at drowning in their own mess with the crap they pulled out the gate. If they acted the least bit apologetic I would of been more open to giving them a second shot at my wallet, but it's MS and they came into this gen using their American gaming lead to push their non gaming agenda.

Deadpoolio3918d ago

No it doesn't say that they are listening it actually sounds pretty pathetic in a way.....They knew they were and still are getting crushed by PS4 preorders, so rather than have a moderate launch they felt the need to show NO faith and NO conviction about their original "vision" of their product.

Granted they are plenty of Microsoft defenders like you I am assuming who will continue to eat up everything they do even though none of you can even begin to explain just what their vision is anymore....

Anyone with half a brain would actually be a bit turned off by their blatant pandering, and constant need to play catchup with Sony. Which is literally all they are doing...The last biggest sign of weakness they could show would be to remove the Kinect....

Like it or not fanboys Microsoft got caught with their pants down in February, they assumed Sony wouldn't release until 2014 considering they didn't even start looking at their next machine until 2010..You can't even make sense in your comment, you say they are listening and then cancel yourself out with the preorder comment which is EXACTLY why they've done more 180s than a Russian Ballerina....

They are a crackhead looking for a fix, eventually they are going to start offering hand jobs and head for a sale all just to avoid having a successful but smaller launch.

IF they had an actual vision for the XBO which I seriously doubt they ever really had, they would have stuck to the plan not lied or been shady and actually explained it, went out of their way to make sure people knew what they vision was.....But they didn't really have one they just wanted to see what they could do and how far they could go to take away control from the consumer.....

Funny that they claimed all those restrictions and DRM were needed for a "digital" future, considering that Sony has been pushing a digital future for the last 3 years constantly having 90% of games on PS3 available Day 1 digitally....I'm sitting on at least 65 full retail PS3 games right now and it doesn't require that I be hammered with DRM and restrictions

TomShoe3918d ago

You don't get kudos for solving problems if you caused them in the first place.

That's all that needs to be said.

stage883918d ago

Not at all.

Why thank them for things they should of done in the first place?
They should be apologising to us.

andreasx3918d ago

they didn't have the guts to go through with their vision of the future of consoles. I don't want to buy a console from a company that doesn't have a spine and don't stand for their actions.

MysticStrummer3918d ago (Edited 3918d ago )

"Spin it any way you want but MS could have easily go with the mandatory kinect sell the system that way."

As long as you have to buy it, it's still mandatory.

OT - I don't know if kudos is the right word, but the number of changes they've made in such a short time is amazing, especially when they said some of those changes were impossible. They've flipped more than one unflippable switch since the reveal.

Sitdown3918d ago (Edited 3918d ago )

@Tomshoe
So if you cause a problem, and decide to right your wrong instead of just letting your error stand.....you don't get any kudos. So in your mind, anybody who turns their life around for the better should never get praised. I can applaud somebody for trying to change, so needless to say I disagree....on another note. The xbox one has not even been released, so technically there is not an error at this point......just abstract ideas that could have led to an error.

Kryptix3918d ago

Before the Xbox One reveal, I gave Microsoft the benefit of the doubt against all the leaks and rumors. That they were changing their console for the majority of their fans which were against DRM for months beforehand. And even the month of the reveal MS didn't admit to their mistake and made it a "scenario" which would stick if pre order numbers were high.

Microsoft deserves no kudos for ignoring their fans in the beginning.

ABizzel13918d ago

No, Yes, No.

No, because they shouldn't have pulled what they did to begin with and we wouldn't be here discussing it now.

Yes, because they did change most of the things gamers were against, regardless of if it was for gamers, or because they feared being outsold.

No, because with each change came the loss of a feature that gamers wanted and were looking forward, and at the end of the day all this is still up to M$ so if they want to implement all these things back in when they get a decent install base they can or on a positive note they could bring the few good things back.

redwin3918d ago

All of u think that MS is not a customer friendly company but you all forget that lots of people did preorder the Xbox One, me included. Lots of people were going to buy it anyway. All my friends are getting it, we have not preordered games because we will download all the games. Us true MS players, are not happy with the shell they are going to sell us now because all the retroverted customers. Many people did not want a next gen machine, they just wanted to upgrade their hardware. And I wish MS stops listening to them.

slivery3918d ago (Edited 3918d ago )

Exactly they want their money and they saw they were going to lose a great deal of it if they didn't start buckling down.

I don't believe the whole they care about listening to consumers bit at all. The consumers were there complaining about these policies long before the system was even released, they didn't care or listen then did they. They only started changing their policies when they realized holy shit.. People actually hate the system in the true sense of the word hate.

No one in their life let alone in gaming history has seen the public have such a strong distaste for any product. Microsoft knew since that hate was not fading at all, they had to actually change. It wasn't for the consumer but only to secure their profits in the future and appear to care about the consumer.

Like I said they had plenty of time to listen and see peoples concerns before the Xbox One was even announced.

If they truly cared about what the consumer thought they would have made the Xbox One what it is now right out of the gate, listening and seeing those concerns before hand. f course they didn't and did everything backwards because they simply don't care what the consumers thinks unless it starts to deal with their money.

If they knew they could have kept it the way it was without all that back lashing they would have. Plain and simple but I am glad for once people finally stood their ground and showed the company it isn't right.

Sadly people don't do that enough and I can't necessarily say we as a group of thinking individuals finally stood ground a console gaming issue is the greatest thing in the world but I guess we have to start with baby steps. Cause there are a lot more companies and people in the world screwing us over other than Microsoft but I'll give it more time for people to care more about that instead of a small issue like a gaming system.

Magicite3918d ago

Stop defending MS like You work for them.

JokesOnYou3918d ago (Edited 3918d ago )

Stop trolling MS news like You work for sony.

-Anyway the only kudos micro is getting from me is for Ryse, DR3, Killer Instinct, and Forza5 because these are the games I can't wait to play first on my X1.

X1 would have been better off longterm with some of the old policies so I think its taken a small step back, but OK they had to appease more folks which I believe more and more everyday were actually many vocal fanboys that were never ever going to buy an X1 and were just jealous micro were actually taking the lead to bring us closer to DD console model which is where the industry is headed anyway. Always on, game sharing, kinect all have some unique benefits, even some that constantly hate know its true but they won't admit it, they will just follow the pack and pretend it was all bad. Oh but just wait, when sony does it then it will be great for the industry and gamers.

Good time to be a gamer, we got Gamescom then a tough long wait 'til Nov, and then all the talking won't matter.

indysurfn3918d ago

There was once this theif that got caught trying to steal a HDTV and some video games. This was no ordinary thief, once this thief stole from you, you would never own a HDTV, video game again. You could only rent it, and most likely you could never own a cell phone, or computer again. Only rent it.

Thank God the Police caught the thief red handed! So instead of praising the thief for putting down the hdtv and video games while at gun point. Lets praise the police!

It's kinda silly to say the thief addressed our concerns. Maybe the thief was 'concerned about their own existence'.

rainslacker3917d ago (Edited 3917d ago )

@sitdown

I wouldn't praise a career criminal who decided to turn their life around to get back in people's good graces if they felt no remorse over their initial criminal activities. Far from it. I would hold them to their actions until they proved they that they actually knew what they did wrong, and could admit it without trying to justify it all at the same time, and again, seem remorseful about it. If said criminal was turning himself around in the interest of money...say for a reality TV show, I would still see them as the swindling criminal they are.

MS aren't criminals in my mind...at least not in regards to the X1, but if you're going to use that analogy, work it through to the end.

When MS can come out and say, "We were wrong" or a simple, "We're sorry for being condescending pricks"(paraphrasing), then maybe people will be willing to forgive and forget.

@redwin

Perhaps you can tell us what a "True MS player" is.

CuddlyREDRUM3917d ago

They could have gone with it, and nobody would have bought it.

Saying things like "every company wants to make money" only goes so far, and is a motto that sets all consumers up for getting ripped off.

If they were listening they wouldn't have it set up like that in May and at E3. I wouldn't trust them with anything at this point, especially new hardware.

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n4rc3918d ago

Ummm... What?

They don't owe anyone anything.. This is business.. Not recess at the playground

If you don't like it, you don't have to buy it.. But they don't owe anyone a certain product or an apology for offering said product

avengers19783918d ago

Just like nobody owes MS anything.

scott1823918d ago

Companies go out of business being bull headed and greedy.... No they don't owe anyone anything, but they may want to try to not come off as such in the future.

HammadTheBeast3918d ago

It's business, you put on a happy mask and take the hits, otherwise you los out on sales.

n4rc3918d ago

I'm not going to argue the ethics of it all.. Not enough bubbles for that.. Lol

But Microsoft has always done its own thing.. And alot of times, it pays off for consumers.. Sometimes things don't pan out (cough..windows me..coughcough).. Even the surface isn't doing very well.. But look at their earnings reports.. They aren't going out of business anytime soon..

Millions of people use Microsoft's services daily.. Just because they don't take to the internet to defend themselves doesn't mean they don't exist..

greenlantern28143918d ago

Incorrect just like all businesses they owe their customers everything. Since without people who pay them for their products they wouldn't have a company at all, companies need their customers support more than the customer needs them.

Sitdown3918d ago

You are wrong, a business does not owe you anything, unless they have promised you something....Now is it in the best interest of the business to do what is best for their consumers? Most likely.

CuddlyREDRUM3917d ago

"Hurray for huge corporations"

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SDS Gamerfiend3918d ago

No because they shouldn't have tried that bull in the first place!

TomShoe3918d ago (Edited 3918d ago )

@Golding Quit lurking the pending section. It's annoying to hear your fanboy self every time I open an X1 article.

cannon88003918d ago

They don't deserve any kind of "pat on the back" They're not suppose to hide anything from the consumers. And I find it extremely sad that they didn't want to address all the features that needed you to pay to use. Just to show that they already knew that we weren't gonna like it. When you know something is bad and you still do it you know there's no place to hide your face afterwards.

KarrBOMB3918d ago

@ReDeMpTiOn

I agree with you, MS does not deserve kudos for their changes. They made those changes because the pre-orders were suffering and the fact that long time consumers were abandoning their ship. Not because it was what gamers preferred. I understand that companies need to be profitable, but the changes they were going to implement was out of greed, nothing more. The extreme back lash was just an early insight of what they would face had changes not been made.

None the less, I'm glad the changes were made. Not just because I play MS games as well as PS, but because the competition is good for gamers. So either company failing would have impacts on the remaining gaming community.

Legion213918d ago

How is this suppose to happen if they don't correct their mistakes? No company is without flaws and every company is it to make money. I don't think they should be faulted for changing what everyone had complained about.

ovnipc3918d ago

REDMPTIONX Fuk off TROLL. M$ fixed everything people complain about, exept Kinect and kinect should be standard.

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DigitalRaptor3918d ago (Edited 3918d ago )

I find it kind of mind-bending that a group of people can so easily forgive a company that has been planning and implementing (at the core of their console) for many, many years all these anti-consumer measures that would have impacted your rights and the way they treat you, not for one generation, but forever.

I could understand if there was just one of these anti-consumer issues, but sadly there were multiple ones and still are some that they're clinging on to and hoping people don't want to question. So how can people trust them after the decisions that they made that they knew how it would impact the industry and consumer rights?

And Gareth, you really think it was Microsoft "listening to the consumers"? If that was the case they would have responded to the overwhelming negative chatter from rumours months and months before they decided to power on with their reveal. A reveal that in fact turned out to not only confirm said rumours, but to be more non-gaming based than about games. No, it was a desperate response to what is fiscal responsibility, not a "change of heart" and the way in which they treat their consumers.

Microsoft reversed policies to try and get back on track, but they're still the same Microsoft. They deserve kudos for any innovation that benefits a gaming console, a deep focus on gaming and things that consumers will benefit from, DEFINITELY not anti-consumer intentions and practices.

Garethvk3918d ago (Edited 3918d ago )

I have zero doubt that money like everything else in business was the main factor. But since consumers can only voice with their wallets and since the people made it loud and clear what they would and would not accept, I just found it interesting that the company who has largely ignored the consumer base finally did something about it.

It was also a typo on my part there was supposed to be a Does added prior and I have fixed it.
I am still taking a wait and see on the Xbox One but since we have been listing the issues from it from day one, I wanted to be fair and say look, the company is changing their usual tactics and regardless of the reasons, they are making changes that the fans have asked for.

ShwankyShpanky3918d ago

Seriously... if I was trying to sell steak sandwiches with a hearty horse dung spread, should I be given kudos when I acknowledge I'll sell more by removing the dung?

OC_MurphysLaw3918d ago

I don't think they deserve "kudos" for addressing the elements that many complained about. That said, I don't think people who complained about the original policies should be complaining about MS doing a 180 and fixing those very isssues they were just weeks ago bitching about.

pacosanchez883918d ago (Edited 3918d ago )

no, they dont deserve kudos for being so out of touch with their customers to implement all these "features" that most people didnt want. and that they didnt change their mind when
-there was backlash in febuary at the rumor of a always online console
-they revealed the console and everyone ridiculed it
-e3, when the PS4 further cemented its lead

a week after e3, once the preorder numbers came back, THATS when they changed there mind. on always online, on indie support, on installing the disc, on kinect, everything. they changed it all when the ps4 had a lead in pre orders. that doesnt win them kudos in my book. only in their pocketbook.

i wouldve bought a XB1 some time in the future, but after seeing how MS wasnt at all confident or certain about the future and vision of their product, ive lost all confidence in them as well.

rainslacker3917d ago (Edited 3917d ago )

I agree. The new policies are praise worthy I guess. No one is saying the new policies are really bad, except maybe the MS fan boys who actually wanted the old ones. I mean they should have figured all that out before the reveal, but what's done is done in that regard. Stupid move on MS part considering how much focus testing the must have done. The fact the reveal appealed to almost no one shows they had some terrible focus groups.

However, it really hasn't been that long since the reversals. Only a few weeks now and 4 major changes to the system. The wound is still fresh, and people are going to hold a grudge.

I know the internet makes things seem like everything happened a really long time ago, but it's just human nature to not trust something or someone that pissed you off completely. Take any ex-gf/bf you may have had in your life. Forgiveness takes time, and people like to vent.

I think the part that's really hanging up people from moving on is that MS hasn't really shown that they even really realize why people were pissed off. I understand the need to spin things for PR's sake, but would it kill them to just say that their vision was obviously not in the interest of the consumer, and perhaps even apologize for that? It did Sony wonders when they acknowledged how they screwed up their PS3 launch with their arrogance, and yet people still bring it up.

Basically, MS needs to give people closure on this matter. I know it may sound silly, but that's what it is. It would be better for MS, in the long run, in my opinion, if they are the ones that provide that closure. If people do it on their own, they usually end up not caring one bit, and that's not good for MS.

SkullBlade1693918d ago

No, they just did what they had to do to prevent the product from completely bombing.

Legion213918d ago

As all successful companies do.

CuddlyREDRUM3917d ago

Most successful companies wouldn't set themselves up for such criticism and out of touch PR that nearly sank the Xbox brand.

Your comment is like saying after BP dumped all the oil in the Gulf they cleaned it up... just like all successful companies do.

thrust3918d ago

I don't care, I was getting the Xbox no matter what, Xbox live makes it worth it for me.

jessupj3917d ago (Edited 3917d ago )

Well right now on my PS3 I'm enjoying dedicated servers, heaps of free games every month, and I don't have virtually every single app behind a paywall.

But even with all that, amazing as those feature are, I wouldn't be prepared to get F'ed in the ass just to have it.

So what are you enjoying so much that you ARE happily prepared to be bent over and violated?

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Xbox, do you even have a plan anymore?

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Chocoburger22m ago

They clearly never did, hence why they spent so many BILLIONS on other publishers as a last resort.

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Brad Hilderbrand explains the reason behind the recent Xbox studio closures

There are two reasons why all those Bethesda studios closed, and neither of them have anything to do with Bethesda (directly)...

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Christopher3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

The guy confirming what we've all (well, most of us) been saying since the latest purchase.

crazyCoconuts48m ago

Remember the relatively common counter that went something like "I'm sure you arm-chair CEOs know better how to run a company than the biggest company in the world"?

I mean - there's a lot to running a company for sure, but on this topic it's hard to understand how Phil and team didn't see this coming.

Tody_ZA33m ago(Edited 30m ago)

Phil and team knew it was coming and planned for it. It's not even a conspiracy, it's simply the business of cutting costs and superfluous studios after a major acquisition. They don't give a damn about Tango Gameworks or other small creative studios that won't recoup their losses. They don't care about investing in this industry. They have no interest in risky and expensive new IP. They are only interested in profiting off ownership of Bethesda IP, Call of Duty and Candy Crush.

I guarantee you that not one single game under their banner will improve or become bigger and better.

Welcome to the Xbox family, what a pathetic joke.

Anyone who continues to support this, enjoy your future, because this is it. Ninja Theory is next, and Perfect Dark after that.

XiNatsuDragnel3h ago

I'm not surprised Microsoft guys are crock nuff said

isarai3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Honestly i think Bethesda needs to buy themselves out of zenimax/MSs hands and do their own thing, i honestly think that would fix a lot of issues and save them from a potential closure.

Zeref2h ago

There's a reason they sold in the first place. And Bethesda is not closing anytime soon lol. As much as I hate the studio closures. They were all small studios 2 of them were mobile studios.

I think these are growing pains and Xbox will get back on track. But they're not getting any more passes.

jwillj2k41h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I’d like to see your reaction to being growing pained out of your job after the launch of a successful product.

Einhander19722h ago

Ah, we can see how the Microsoft media machine works.

Every article I read now is some kind of attempt to shift the blame off Microsoft and paint them as the victims or convince people that Microsoft mistakes were just some kind unforeseeable unfortunate twist of fate.

The shills are out in full force today.

Christopher2h ago

This is not at all what this article is saying. It's saying that honest and useful studios are getting closed because of big money deals elsewhere and the faults with game pass as a model.

Einhander19722h ago

I understand what the article is about.

It's a deflection, it's a putting the cart before the horse article.

Let me tell you how this problem wouldn't have existed in the first place.

Microsoft not creating a service funded by subsidization and having the foresight to see that it would disrupt consumer spending habit to begin with. Then not buying Bethesda and undertaking costs for a service that was already failing to pay for itself because their own expectations of Game Pass having "billions" of subscribers was unobtainable from the very start.

And if you don't think that was the case go back to the article on the day Game Pass launched and read the comments from people from day one who foresaw that this would be an unsustainable model and would cause people to stop spending in the same way.

Christopher2h ago

***Microsoft not creating a service funded by subsidization and having the foresight to see that it would disrupt consumer spending habit to begin with.***

This article literally supports this opinion. He's not praising Game Pass or the ABK purchase.

Einhander19721h ago(Edited 1h ago)

This is an explanation of why it failed, there is zero blame put onto Microsoft itself.

Yes, it talks about what went wrong, but it doesn't say Microsoft shouldn't have done it. It doesn't say Phil should have foreseen this outcome and stopped before it got to this point.

"convince people that Microsoft mistakes were just some kind unforeseeable unfortunate twist of fate"

Christopher1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

***but you're seeing the impact; all those smaller studios making really interesting games are going to fall away, simply because as good as games like Hi-Fi Rush are, they're never going to make enough money to make up that $70B hole that Xbox now has to dig itself out of.***

If you see that as support or you explicitly just want people to end their argument with "and, in conclusion, Microsoft bad" then that's on you. This article does not support Microsoft's choices and highlights the faults. Nothing it says is good about these choices, even saying that putting CoD on Game Pass would be money losing for them because they've set themselves up for failure (and not putting it on there will drop subscriber numbers like crazy, meaning their Game Pass plans were shit to begin with).

No matter how you look at it, they're saying Microsoft made decisions that hurt the bottom line, force closures, and leave Game Pass in a situation where they lose no matter what they do. It's all negative.

Einhander19721h ago

Christopher, if Microsoft hadn't made Game Pass and bought a bunch of publishers would this article even need to exist?

Christopher1h ago

***Christopher, if Microsoft hadn't made Game Pass and bought a bunch of publishers would this article even need to exist? ***

How is this an argument to anything being discussed? This is just as valuable of an argument as "if fish had stayed in deeper waters, they wouldn't have evolved to tetrapods, adapted to shallow water and then to land, and we wouldn't even exist and have to worry about game pass at all."

You're bringing nothing to this argument and then complaining that other people are highlighting the issues with Game Pass and spending tens of billions on studios because what we should be discussing is what it would be like if Microsoft hadn't done any of that.

Well, they did do it. Now pull up your big boy pants and join in on the discussion of what that has meant for the industry since then and, especially right now, how that is affecting the industry and game studios under Microsoft. None of us are able to go back in time and change what was done.

Einhander197241m ago(Edited 28m ago)

Christopher, this isn't me not understanding what the article is about, it's you not understanding what I am saying.

If you want me to make excuses for Microsoft's bad decisions you're not going to get that or just agree with people who are doing that, it's not going to happen, nor are you going to convert me into thinking xbox "needs to exist".

Ya know what, maybe "Microsoft bad".... maybe their decisions ARE having a negative effect on the industry, and instead of deflecting from their actual actions and making excuses for them we stand up and say "no" "Microsoft is hurting the industry"

And maybe, just maybe, it was so obvious that this was going to be the outcome that even nobodies in comment sections on websites were able to easily predict this outcome, yet Microsoft did it anyway then kept doing and even when it became undeniable that it was having a negative impact on their business and and the industry itself, then they knowingly made even bigger purchases and caused more problems.

And the one thing you're right about is that I can't go back in time, but I CAN speak up and try to keep it from happening again...

Maybe if the people who were speaking up 7 years ago were listened too we wouldn't be having this discussion and Tango and Arkane would still be in business along with all the other people who have lost their jobs due to Microsoft's actions.

Do you like analogies?

What you're saying is like an alcoholic crashing their car then trying to explain it by saying it was caused by everything except the fact that they were dunk because they are an alcoholic and don't want to stop drinking.

TiredGamer31m ago

The article is essentially focusing the blame on MS. GamePass was a hail mary play to change the gaming paradigm and carve out a special niche for themselves, emulating the Netflix model, that might have led to MS becoming the leader in the long-term. Unfortunately, the subscriber growth isn't really there, and the model isn't really built to weather that lack of revenue. MS is now in a restructure mindset to figure out how they balance out their model in a way that can still make them money.

've always believed that GamePass was a high risk shot that had a very low chance of long-term success. But the problem with it, whether it succeeded or not, is that it accelerated the proverbial "race to zero" consumer expectation that ran its course in the mobile gaming industry in the late 2000s. When consumers start thinking that games should be "cheap" (as in through a $10/month all-you-can-eat subscription model), it turns the narrative against games being priced at realistic levels. So with the GamePass failure, they've not only sabotaged their market share, but they've impacted the entire industry and devalued the cost of game development to the average consumer. So now it's harder to develop mega-big budget games and to earn the revenue needed to pay for them.

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MrDead1h ago

It's greed. MS has the IP's it wants now it's dumping the studios that it's raided, MS will still make money from Tango's games unlike the people that made them. If anyone follows MS outside of gaming you'll see this is what they do, buy companies take what they want consolidate some of the workforce and shut them down. I don't know why people are acting so surprised when this is Microsoft being Microsoft.

MS is a three trillion dollar company, if it enters a market it has no need to compete, they take what they want and with the financial influence it can bypass laws that are meant to protect the consumer and the workforce. Just look at how they are cornering the AI market right now with buyups and investments.

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Microsoft Is Finally Ending Its Focus On Big Budget Gaming Nonsense

Back when the Xbox 360 launched, Microsoft pushed the big budget game as a differentiator. Following all the recent layoffs, it’s clear this strategy has run its course.

Einhander19724h ago(Edited 4h ago)

The Microsoft shill take on the Microsoft causing the death of big budget gaming...

The whole driving force for growth in gaming both technologically, creatively and financially was all nonsense, and it was definitely not because Microsoft ran the industry into the ground with obviously bad decisions and creating an unprofitable business model that massively disrupted consumer spending habits. /s

RpgSama3h ago

First, F**** Forbes and their shill take, I hope the money cleared by now.

Second, Which big budget games I might ask? Microsoft has been in a rut for like a decade now, with no big publisher and developers puechases they would have not released anything in the last 5 years but the new Halo and Forza.

Eonjay9m ago

Fortunately for us, since we know this message is basically coming from Microsoft, we can read into their motives. Why are they trying to turn people against big budget games and who would it help.... hmmm.

Hofstaderman3h ago

Ah Forbes. One of the prominent MS mouthpieces....

Luc203h ago

Microsoft is finally... ahhh I've never heard this one before!

Petebloodyonion3h ago

LOL, this article is a big pile of dog crap...
Spencer has been constantly telling ppl that NO they would not go the route of having games like TLOU, Uncharted, etc because Playstation exists and prefers to focus on a diverse portfolio.

How many years have we seen Xbox as no game and we don't want small games like ORI, Pentiment, Grounded, etc.?

That's the real tragedy and why lots of gamers are mad at MS right now
because they have been championing smaller titles and yet fired the ppl delivering exactly what they were proning about.

So no the only nonsense is that MS seems now to be going BACK to AAA popular titles..sorry, I meant refocusing effort on core established IP where broken GAAS might be rewarded versus praised and rewarded work.

Einhander19723h ago(Edited 3h ago)

https://media1.tenor.com/m/...

You read an article cheerleading the end of big budget games and all the other articles about problems and this is what you have to say? That's what you think "the real tragedy" is?

I thought that xbox fans might finally "get it", but no, it seems they don't even understand what is happening and what is at stake.

Petebloodyonion35m ago

Please tell me what's happening and what is at stake

Since it's not big companies closing small studios, killing innovation while refocusing assets on big ongoing projects and core IP?

Let's See MS Close Tango Studio mentions that they are too thin on key project
Sony Close London Studio and make massive cuts in Firespite will reallocate resources to core project
EA will focus on Core project
Square will focus on big established IP
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crazyCoconuts3h ago

Hurray! No more big gam.... wait... what??

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