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Smash Bros. Evolves: Retooling the Final Smash

GenGAME writes: "Final Smashes have been a bit controversial since their first introduction in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Some find them to fit in nicely with the frantic, insane style of the game’s take on the fighting genre; others believe they’re too overpowered and rely too much on chance because of their connection to the Smash Ball.

"Final Smashes could use some changes to make them better fit in with a fighting game like Smash Bros. The best way to go is probably to really make them “Final” Smashes unleashed as a last resort."

legendoflex3955d ago

I actually really like the concept of Final Smashes... but as "comeback" moves you can only use as a kind of "this is it" attack in a tight spot. Smash Balls still favored skilled players too much and were too luck-based to really be fair.

live2play3955d ago

Favored skilled players
Too luck based
...what?

So which is it?

legendoflex3955d ago

Favored skilled players... because you could beat people out of the way

Too luck based, because there's no rhyme or reason to when/where the smash ball appears

princejb1343955d ago

maybe my idea sucks but how about if final smash is given to the player with the least points in the match
they only get 1 final smash thus giving them a chance to catch up

Scrafty3693955d ago

That's actually similar to how it works in Brawl. It's called "pity final smash" and it's based on a five point difference. It can only be turned off by BOTH disabling smash balls and turning the item frequency to none on the item menu.

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Mortal Kombat hits 80 million sales, here's how it stacks up against competition

NetherRealm confirms its Mortal Kombat franchise has sold over 80 million copies in the last 30 years, and here's how it competes against other fighters.

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Kakashi Hatake353d ago

Don't care what anyone says, Smash isn't a traditional fighting game. May as well call Powerstone and Playstation All Stars fighting games. They're more of an arena fighter /party game.

NotoriousWhiz353d ago

You don't have to care what anyone says. It's not a traditional fighting game. But it is a fighting game.

gerbintosh353d ago

Not according to the creator, Sakurai. Link below

https://www.eventhubs.com/n...

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CrimsonWing69353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

I mean what makes them an arena fighter than say something like Tekken? Because there’s platforms?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21353d ago

because theres a bunch of pokeballs and other random stupid stuff on stage that you can use at your advantage and flying ultra super power ball that you got to chase on the stage to get your ougi LMAO.

CrimsonWing69353d ago

@NatsuXTheMaxspeed21

I mean what it sounds like is they took a fighting game and “added” unique mechanics to it to me.

When I think arena game I think of things like Spawn: In the Demon’s Hand or Virtual-On.

Smash to me is a fighting game, they have fighting game tournaments for it. It just doesn’t jive with me to call it “not a fighting game” because you have poke-balls and platforms or because it has 4 players at once duking it out.

Power Stone I’d consider a fighting game as well. Hell, if you google what it is everyone calls these games “fighting games”. So yea, they’re fighting games…

Immagaiden353d ago

What’s next, you gonna say Mario Kart isn’t a racing game?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21353d ago

oh its a racer but its not a realistic one like GT or Forza. only kids check for mario kart and smash .

Immagaiden353d ago

I didn’t say it was realistic. I said racing game. Does Burnout not being realistic make it not a racing game?

What does a demographic have to do with a genre? Do kids playing CoD make it any less an FPS? You see how ridiculous bringing up that subject is?

repsahj352d ago

"Only kids and kids at heart check for mario kart and smash".

-fixed!

FallenAngel1984353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

Nobody said it was a traditional fighter. Everyone acknowledges it as a platform fighter

PSASBR & Power Stone are fighting games, the former being a platform fighter and the latter an arena fighter

gleepot352d ago

You're correct, it isn't traditional. It's a fighting game though.

repsahj352d ago

Because if cute and lovable characters are fighting it's not a fighting game? XD As long there's a versus fighting, it is a fighting game.

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MrNinosan353d ago

Including Smash Bros in a list of fighting games, is like including GTA in Racing games.

NotoriousWhiz353d ago

I hate to break it to you but smash bros has fighting game tournaments so it qualifies.

MrNinosan353d ago

"and here's how it competes against other fighters"

No, Mortal Kombat doesn't compete with games like Smash Bros? It's a different genre for a different audience.

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21353d ago

Anybody can host a tournament in their garage it doesnt mean it qualifies.

NotoriousWhiz353d ago

I'm going to assume you're not part of the FGC. However, I am, and I can tell you that there is a ton of overlap between people who play smash competitively and those who play other fighting games competitively.

Now for casuals, there is a lot less overlap between the two for sure.

PapaBop353d ago

While technically true, Leffen comes to mind, FGC and Smash community have always had a rocky relationship.

Thundercat77353d ago

And yet, If Smash Bros was over 80 million, you wouldn't be complaining. On the contrary, you would be bragging about it.

Immagaiden353d ago

Bad comparison. You do a LOT of things in GTA outside of a car while fighting is what you’re mainly doing in SSB

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Ezio2048353d ago

Given the volume of games released, I would say Tekken has sold the best.

lodossrage353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

Yeah, that's a good point. Most of these games have parts to the franchise outside of traditional fighting games.

Like for example, with Mortal Kombat, do Special Forces, Mythologies: Sub: zero, and the Kollection count?

With Tekken does death by degrees or the tag tournament games count?

With Street Fighter, are we counting all the iterations of 2, 3, and 4? how about the ex series or alpha series?

There are a lot of variables at play here

Ezio2048353d ago

Even after including Tekken Tag, they have less titles compared to all MK and SF games.

CS7352d ago

Yeah, i realized that too. Very interesting.

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Super Smash Bros. prototype revealed in new video

The designer of the original Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo 64 shows us the prototype that started it all.

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5 Best Fighting Game Stage Themes

Fighting games and music have a long and storied history together. Here are five of the best fighting game stage themes throughout video game history.

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Tetsujin689d ago

Tekken Tag Tournament 1 Arcade OST - Nina Williams
Street Fighter 2 - Ken stage, Ryu Stage, Vega (Claw), and Guile
Street Fighter Alpha 3 - Karin theme
Tekken 3 Arcade OST - Hidden Characters Theme
Super Street Fighter 2 - Fei Long CPS1 version (found on Hyper SF2 A.E.)
Tekken 2 Arcade OST - Kazuya and Devil theme
Marvel vs Capcom 1 - Strider Theme, Ryu, and Roll

Tedakin689d ago

There should have been at least one Mick Gordon Killer Instinct theme on here.

Rebel_Scum689d ago

Should be some tunes from the first Mortal Kombat in any list tbh.

I really like the use of Mozart’s Dies Irae in Wolfgang Krausers stage in Fatal Fury 2.

azizlksa688d ago

Volcanic rim for Street Fighter 4 is probably my favorite stage theme