Prcko3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

That's 2 MUCH, expected 450$ maxx,meh...

FriedGoat3986d ago

Hmm, That conference was better than I expected. I still don't like the DRM shizz, but the lineup looks good.

loulou3986d ago

agreed great conference. 50 more than i thought it would cost but i am onboard day one... my girlfriend is going to go berserk when i buy both consoles before christmas..

and titanfall looks a fooking beast

AntoineDcoolette3986d ago

Mmmm $499 console. Your move, Sony, your move. Please don't repeat PS3 launch.

Thatguy-3103986d ago

Yea i agree. Not going to purchase one but the conference was pretty good. A lot of games were shown which was a relieve. Ryse was the IP that got my most interest from the whole conference.

stage883986d ago

Thanks MS, now Sony can swoop in a lower price and kill the bone.

DeanSanchez3986d ago

No company should follow the PS3's launch price models. Lol

Bad decision Microsoft.

mikeslemonade3986d ago

If there were enough games then I wouldn't mind paying $499. However Titanfall was the only game that looked impressive gameplay wise. Their best looking exclusive was Ryse which didn't play well. Other then that there were lots of "real time" trailers.

THE-COMMANDER3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Yea better conference than the first, but that doesn't mean it's a great conference, no great games was shown that makes you buy a console for $499 , the most game that i liked is Ryse as an Xbox exclusive.

But the best game shown was MGS, Man that was awesome.

sunnygrg3986d ago

Even if the PS4 is as cheap as $399, I can't buy both consoles now. I will have to take into account the money I need to spend on games as well. I have to go with the console with free online.

abzdine3986d ago

looks like people only base their buy on the price. DRM is a deal breaker, no matter if they showed Versus XIII exclusive day one release.

Sony, your turn!
Naughty Dog, Square Enix on stage!

Blacktric3986d ago

>"agreed"
>"great conference"

What?

Rainstorm813986d ago

Project Spark was another game that looked Amazing....OOO the possibilites

499 is a bit higher than i wanted to pay but i planned on waiting a while to see how this DRM works out

badz1493986d ago

they redesigned the ""already good looking" 360 into the XBone design! talk about dumb decision LOL!

MAJ0R3986d ago

Too high, for that price you could build a good gaming PC.

tehpees33986d ago

This is nearly the exact same price Sony asked for PS3 when it launched. If they couldn't get away with it what makes MS think they can?

raytraceme3986d ago

Project Spark and Black Tusk game only games that caught my attention. Project spark is on Windows 8 so no loss there :D Otherwise I am glad I only need to buy the PS4 and I now got money leftover for a new gpu for my pc.

thechosenone3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

You have to remember that doesn't include taxes! My take on the price...hahhahahhahahhahahhahh aahahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaaa a aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa a aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Mr_Nuts3986d ago

Good conference but thats how they get you

You go "Wow this looked amazing, I'm going to get an Xbox One....I don't mind the DRM and giving away my rights if this is what I'm getting"

Then once it's out and most of the games are....next E3 will be crap

decrypt3986d ago

Dam 499usd is too high, werent consoles supposed to be cheap. I could easily build a PC with that money with much better specs and have BC with last 25 years.

saladthieves3986d ago

The ball is now in Sony's court. I'd have to admit that the press conference was better than I expected it to be. For $499 however, it's too expensive for me. I'll see what happens in the future.

Only thing that remains is to see what Sony will do. They already have several advantages, one of them being that they haven't even shown the console yet!

3-4-53986d ago

Yea they showed some games I actually want to play...

* A Good amount of Open world games too, which are always welcome.

* That Spark game looked good and the other Open world game. They almost all looked good but I'm still not 100% sold on Xbox.

They did help themselves but we still have more E3 so my opinion is still open.

JokesOnYou3986d ago

Hell yeah, I'm in....micro showed me exactly what I wanted to see= CORE GAMES. F-ing day One!

3-4-53986d ago

If sony was going to to launch at $400...they could bump it up to $450 before their live conference and nobody would know the difference and they would still have a console $50 cheaper/less expensive than XB1.

Boody-Bandit3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

I was shocked when they announced $499 MSRP and the crowd gave an underwhelming response. Already the general census on the net are mostly saying that's too much.

I didn't see anything that really impressed me graphically. Nor did I see anything that made me say, "ah the hell with it, I'm a gamer, yeah they are sticking it to me but I just gotta have this new console."

Although TitanFall looked like it will fun. Not graphically impressive but definitely looks like there is fun to be had with some mechs.

The announcement I was most anticipating was will they FINALLY revive Killer Instinct. YES they are BUT it looks like Street Fighter IV (cell shading and could be done on current hardware) and has the same engine KI did on the N64 (not fluid 60fps frame rates but the old school engine). Very disappointing.

bangshi3986d ago

More expensive in the UK than the PS3 was at launch!

Haha.

NatureOfLogic3986d ago

So we'll get the superior hardware with the PS4 at a cheaper price. MS is doomed to fail miserable if Sony under cuts.

gaffyh3986d ago

PS3 was £425 at launch, this is MORE expensive and a lot worse in many many ways. They showed some great games, as I expected, but they didn't even mention the DRM issues and had the gall to say "We Listened" when they announced Killer Instinct. The best thing at this event was TitanFall (I would bet this is a timed exclusive, if I was a betting man), but that is nowhere near enough for me to buy this console at such a high price.

MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A PS3 AT LAUNCH. Microsoft really must be smoking something.

Enemy3986d ago

Timed exclusives out the ass and overpriced console. Good going, Microsoft.

TotalHitman3986d ago

£430 = $670, what are Microsoft thinking?!We're used to getting ripped off in the UK, but this is just ridiculous when the US and Europe are paying $499/€499.

fr0sty3986d ago

Great games shown, but you can't polish a turd. I refuse to buy a $499 box that doesn't even let me own my games.

mikeslemonade3986d ago

I think it's a good price. I don't like it when it's too affordable for everybody because then it loses that new and fad appeal. Right now no one gets excited about PS3 and 360 because everyone has one already. PS3 and 360 are obsolete. It's just the nature the beast. Stop complaining about the price you poor children.

darthawesome903986d ago

I agree the lineup looks very good. I am concerned about the overabundance of FPS though...

Now lets see how the PS4 compares for better or worse.

fr0sty3986d ago

I don't like the console, but their software is solid. There's nothing I can say about that. I'll definitely want to check out the new Killer Instinct, just for the nostalgia.

This generation for Microsoft seems more and more like last gen for Sony. A very expensive console with the promise of good games. However, Microsoft also has this nasty DRM shadow hanging over them this time, which is rumored to only get worse (supposedly more announcements regarding DRM coming at Gamescom, rumor has it).

Going toe to toe with a more powerful console at what will likely end up being a higher price point is not going to be easy for them. I guess they're betting on "the cloud" to be able to keep people thinking "it'll only get better!".

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mario193986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

499 US DOLLARS!! HAH

darthv723986d ago

for other platforms. I certainly was expecting it to be $500 but would liked it better at cheaper price.

They can always lower the price after launch. Nintendo, sony and even sega have all done that.

mario193986d ago

lol Darth.. do not forget. Xbox One requires mandatory online. 549$ with mandatory Xbox Live

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

M$ just killed my XBoner. :((

Commandar_Shepard3986d ago

Way too high. And it's so dissapointing because they had a great conference aside from the technical difficulties.

I mean Dead Rising 3 and an Insomniac Exclusive? KILLER INSTINCT?! Megatons. Although it's dissapointing for me that I may not get to play the next Halo.

And why not call it Halo 5?

monkey nuts3986d ago

With VAT added to the uk rrp the actual cost is £515. OMFG that's way overpriced for the current market. Add the price of a couple of games, and Xbox live and it's in redonkuolus territory. I bought the 360 at launch and it cost me £380 with pgr3 and kameo, ps3 cost me £450 with heavenly sword and resistance (Game were doing specials). Well if I ended up getting one ( which I won't due to the drm) then I'd wait at least 6 to 12 months before even thinking about it.

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bicfitness3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Dead on Arrival. Sony will do $399 now, for sure.

To recap, unless it said "exclusive" under the Xbone logo that flashed after trailers, its not. So a bunch of shooters and multiplats (MGS V, BF 4, Witcher 3, and another I think). Everything else was known/ leaked beforehand except for that world building game, that looks interesting, I'll admit. Not $500 and a DRM nightmare interesting though.

See this list. CBoat (Neogaf leaker) nailed everything.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

zebramocha3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

@bic there is a kotaku report to suggest that the ps4 could retail at $425-$525 but could be subject to change.

darthv723986d ago

then it would be like Sega saturn all over again.

saturn announced at $399 and then sony announced PS for $299.

adorie3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Yes he did. Keep in mind that more DRM details are slated for GDC.

Only the hardcore Microsoft fanboy sare refuted this very reliable source of information.

Notice I said Microsoft fanboys? Because even Xbox fanboys are not so gullible to ride on every anti-consumer detail as something positive.

morganfell3986d ago

I think the PS3 will ship in two versions. Basic model and a second model with camera and more. Basic will come in at $399. Advanced at $450 - $499.

FunAndGun3986d ago

Ryse
Killer Instinct
Sunset Overdrive
Forza 5
Minecraft
Quantum Break
D4
Project Spark
Crimson Dragon
Dead Rising 3
the Witcher 3
Below
Black Tusk game
Halo
Titanfall

I thought that was a good list of exclusives and the conference was definitely all about games. Not enough to make me get xboned though.

Darrius Cole3986d ago

I'm not sure that the PS4 will ship at $399. It doesn't matter as long as it doesn't ship at more than $499. Even if is ships at $499 like the Xbone. It'll still win out, because of all the DRM the MS is putting on the Xbone games.

Prices are sticky. What that means is that once someone conditions the market to pay a certain price for a product, that producers of that product are resist to lower their price even if they succeed at lowering the cost.

That is why Micorsoft (or Sony for that matter) will not lower the prices of their new games even though they are trying to push the market toward digital downloads.

JokesOnYou3986d ago

Well they launched a $299 and $399 xbox 360 in 2005, so $499 for move advance hardware+kinect in 2013 seems like a great value to me.

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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

KINECT FTL....

That is why it's that price.

After seeing the show sony will have this one made.

Dead Rising & titanfall looks awsome though.

On top of all that they didn't show kinect for gaming.

They are basically sayin just pay for the sh!t. "Trust us"

But forget everything I just said.

I just want to see the Naughty Gods later tonight!!!

Simon_Brezhnev3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Compared to the last 3 years i give the conference a 10. lol

I give the conference a 6/10.

changed rating because of price lol

@minato

I know right they want customers to forget about the drm. Too bad youtube got some popular people mad about it and dedicating their whole channel for people not to buy Xbone. LOL

Minato-Namikaze3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

7.0 because they didnt address DRM. But comapared to the reveal which was a smooth 1.0 thats improvement.

wenaldy3986d ago

It was their agenda not to adressing DRM fiasco, they'll unveil it on Gamescom (according to rumor on GAF).

Commandar_Shepard3986d ago

The conference gets 8/10 for the games alone but it's dragged down to a 5 because of the price.

kneon3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

That's right, leave it for Gamescon where even fewer of the mainstream gamers and media are going to hear about it.

What happened to "Wait until E3", now it's "Wait until GamesCon"?

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liorishot3986d ago

Kaz must be laughing his head off right now

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Kaz was at the MS show. And he loves the price.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/...

His master plan is going according to plan.

TheBlackSmoke3986d ago

So let me get this straight, its 499 for the right to rent games at full price?

2pacalypsenow3986d ago

Don't forget we finally get a guide to watch cable and satellite

TheBlackSmoke3986d ago

so true, i take it all back

torchic3986d ago

add $60 just to play online.

fourOeightshark3986d ago

It's actually like $560 because of the Live subscription.

saladthieves3986d ago

In the beginning I was a bit surprised to hear they are releasing some free games on Xbox...until I realized it's for only Gold members. Kinda kills the whole purpose of "free" games.

Commandar_Shepard3986d ago

There lies the problem, not only is it $499, you also have:

XBL Fees
Used Game Restrictions
24 Hour Check in

All these are on top of paying for new games.

Tultras3986d ago

120$ Actually, if you're going for a subscription to play online with, your obviously going to get a game too.

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I_am_Batman3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

This is insane. If the PS4 will be cheaper it'll be really a bad start for MS I guess.

AlaaAlii3986d ago

I think the PS4 will be cheaper, at least should be, because the $499 Microsoft is asking for is a console + the TV shit.

Ooh if the PS4 is cheaper. A more powerful console, promising exclusives, free PS+ games every month, and a better single player gaming experience...for less than the price of that DVR.

Blackdeath_6633986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

europe gets ripped off big time on the price way to expensive in the uk we pay $668.87 but US gets it for $500 that's bullshit. if ps4 is cheaper its game over for xbone imo specially since ps4 better specs

T23986d ago

ya thats a bullsht price for euro... Canadian will be 50 bucks more as per usual, even though our dollar is normally par...
So 549 Canadian... sorry MS, I liked titanfall, but not THAT much.

steve30x3986d ago

I think he said it will be £425UK

Blackdeath_6633986d ago

@paranoid1971 @steve30x
he said it will be £429 which is equal to $668 we pay way too much.

Old McGroin3986d ago

Depending on what currency convertor you use £425 is about $660.00 - huge difference, how do MS think that's gonna go down well?!

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Aceman183986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

that price shocked me.

edit
yea that i noticed you'd think these platform holders would realize a lot of people arent made of money.

Mr-Dude3986d ago

I think the audience was shocked to.. They where silent for like 3 maybe 4 seconds...

JoGam3986d ago

Hope PS4 launch in October.

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RedHawkX3986d ago

500 dollars and you have to pay 60 dollars for live. and you have to check in every 24 hours or you cant play your games and you cant sell your games.

princejb1343986d ago

i expected $400 max
i hope sony can make this happen no way am i dropping $500 for a console

princejb1343986d ago

MS should have taken a loss for every console they sold. They can do it with their unlimited supply of cash

steve30x3986d ago

Could be worse. It could be 3 worse

M-M3986d ago

Kinect 2.0 jacked up the price big time. No way that console should be that expensive.

kneon3986d ago

My suspicion that they've put the processor back in the Kinect camera looks more likely now given the price.

millgate13986d ago

€500??? Because 500$ equals €500, fuck sake

HK5A3986d ago

PS3 was 599$ in E3 2006, LOL

Veneno3986d ago

If Xbone was launching with a crap line up like the 360s was, then 499 is way too much, but there will be really good stuff out the gate so I dont think it's too much.

Cant wait to see Sonys conference!

punisher993986d ago

Technically, the launch price is 600 dollars. 499 plus 40 dollars for tax and then another 60 dollars for xboxlive gold = a 600$ console.

Atomicjuicer3986d ago

Titanfall isn't out of the gate and was the only thing they showed that was big.

DRM
Kinect
Price

-Fail

UnHoly_One3986d ago

I don't understand how anyone is surprised by this price.

It's 2013. The 360 sold for 400 8 years ago. The PS3 sold for 600 7 years ago.

I would have been shocked if it was any cheaper. And I expect the PS3 will fall at the exact same price range.

harv0523986d ago

I will agree with you...I expect PS4 to go for 499$, maybe even more...let's hope not though...

Muffins12233986d ago

Sony will either be 450 or 500....

SonyPS43985d ago

Nah the price is right, with the DRM and anti-used games. Less people will buy this console as a result and MS will have to rethink their business plans. If nobody is buying the Wii U at 300-350, what would make you think the XOne would even sell as much as a cheaper competitor, let alone having a chance to win this console war?

MS did everyone a favor.

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-Mika-3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

That an ok price. Sony could beat them by launching a cheaper model of ps4 at $400 and premium at $500

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Sony should skip the camera and sell ps4 for $400 & ps4 + vita bundle for $500.

Also I think RROD happend before bf4. Needed a reset. lol

If you don't have a live gold account then $550 + $60 game day 1!!
:DDDDD

The_Troll_Whisperer3986d ago

Battlefield was running on a PC in the conference, but I hope not everyone believed that.
(I sure as hell didn't)

godslayer4293986d ago

Lmao nobodys gona buy that cable box for 500.

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Qrphe3986d ago

It's dead in mainland Europe. PS3 sells better at a higher pricetag so if PS4 is cheaper its fate is sealed.

kagon013986d ago

Unfortunately, there are people that can get easily seduced and giving their gaming rights...

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Sony's biggest battle right now is not games anymore.

It's price.

$399 and I am sold.

SweatyFlorida3986d ago

Not even factoring DRM/no rental/used games ON TOP of presumably Gold Membership.

Sony is pretty much guaranteed a win (more successful launch) if they announce no DRM, and below $499.

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RandomDude6553986d ago

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh aha no

Lots of DRM AND overpriced.

Software_Lover3986d ago

They should've waited to reveal the price after the Sony conference. Now all Sony has to do is take a bigger loss, at 450, to have an even bigger edge.

Godchild10203986d ago

Sony can launch with the same price and still sale fairly well. Just look at this Generation; The PS3, it has always been priced higher than the 360 and it has been selling very well and now is in second place after a year less on the market.

Qrphe3986d ago

The Kinect really brought up the price.

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helicoptergirl6h ago

It was totally that bad. I couldn't finish the campaign it was so bland and boring as I recall. Got so sick of it. 1000 stimpaks on hard. It is very rare that I play half a game and then just quit. I usually always finish it. But i was so bored with this game I just stopped and never went back and never regretted it. Just thinking about that game makes me shudder

Furesis5h ago

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Compared to F3 and FNV, F4 was barely a mediocre game it wasn't bad but it's also very forgettable entry.

MrDead38m ago

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