160°

Xbox One data collection: 'From a legal perspective, transparency is key,' says tech lawyer

A technology and media lawyer at UK law firm Charles Russell has offered their opinion on the Xbox One debate, claiming that Microsoft's 'Big Brother' Kinect technology isn't all that much different to the functionality of "online shopping, personal video recorders and loyalty cards," but – from a legal perspective - Microsoft needs to be transparent with consumers over the data it is collecting.

Read Full Story >>
videogamer.com
sengoku4002d ago (Edited 4002d ago )

Yeah be honest M$ tell us what data your collecting with the kinect.

it's not always on only so you can turn the xbox on is it??

kneon4002d ago

I think it really is as simple as that, if it wasn't always on then you would actually have to pick up a controller and press a button.

Salooh4002d ago

Even if i want it i can't buy this as a muslim . We have strict privacy toward our women and the idea is just creepy. It's not the future like they claim. Any person who like his privacy won't buy it.

Ps eye will stay in the box when it comes with the ps4. :)

3-4-54002d ago

* They should stream back the information they are collecting live via an online channel/station.

^ This way everyone will know what they are really after.

If it's just facial expression data and marketing numbers then it will prove itself as such to us via the live stream of data.

This is possibly the only way to appease fans and I would get right to it starting now if I was Microsoft.

Allow the people to trust you.

vikingland14002d ago

MS has a lot of questions to be answered . And they better answer them all at E3 .

FITgamer3996d ago

In all actuality they probably wont' though. They still have a few months drag out all the bs.

pompombrum4002d ago

No transparency should be able to protect them from this really. It's simple.. people should be able to turn on their Xbox One and play non kinect related games without kinect being switched on. You can be as transparent about your policies as you want but if it really is going to be required to be on just to use your xbox one, it could turn ugly really fast.. major security flaw, disgruntled employee.. all it will take is one incident and the hammer could come crashing down on Microsoft faster than they can say "better with kinect"

Blaze9294002d ago

maybe I'm lost but can someone explain to me what the problem in having Kinect on all the time is? I have my kinect plugged in everytime I turn on my Xbox 360 right now....

pompombrum4002d ago

Well because it's watching you every time you game. There is also a whole bunch of patents Microsoft have filled such as the ability to detect how many people are watching an online rented movie which could then bill you for each person. Now going OTT a little bit but it could also be used to judge your reactions based on what you're viewing and take advertising to a whole new level.

Generally speaking it's most likely harmless it just has far too much potential to be extremely invasive and the fact it HAS to be on for you to even load up the Xbox One is the problem.

Blaze9294002d ago

...so, what you're saying is, it's a problem because "it's watching you every time you game."

Everything else was pure speculations and conspiracy fears. So again, what exactly is the problem for details CONFIRMED?

Salooh4002d ago (Edited 4002d ago )

I for one don't trust companies on my privacy. I don't trust anyone outside my house on this serious thing. MS/Hackers/Government can spy on us easily. My country is in a fight against dictators. These dictators do anything to harm you. They already spy on phones so what's the difference in this then phones ?..

It's like giving a stranger your secrets or anything serious like that. Do you trust the stranger ?. Law is not for justice , it's for interests. So if government spy on you , you can't judge who judge you. If the people who protect you actually steal you what will you do ?. Nothing..

jimmywolf4002d ago

@Blaze929
it good you support this practice, after all someone had too think like you for this too even exist.
how ever mindless paranoia you think it is, it still a door way too much worse things. right now it all talk an you can laugh an say it not that bad, but when it does happen it be too late too change.

remember folks actions speak louder then words. everyone hates CoD but it sell millions, so your telling them i want more the same. so Microsoft trying new tactics that are invasive, if it sell well your telling them i want more of the same.....

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 4002d ago
KillrateOmega4002d ago

I've been wondering. If you have to tell the Xbox One to turn on via Kinect voice commends, then the hearing-impaired are kind of f*cked, right?

airgangstarr4002d ago (Edited 4002d ago )

microsoft is taking the curse of the 3rd console to a whole new level .. what the hell are they thinking an who is running that company.. gamers havent wanted kinect since well it came out i dont care if its b etter works perfect i dont wanna be standing up jumping around my living room to play a video game ever let alone have this damm thing watching me! between the kinect allways online shit u have to connect ur xbox to internet onced a day or its a paper weight.. so ur tellin me by making it a tv console will attract new customers but ur tellin all the people with no internet we dont want ur buisness cause it wont work offline What are they thinking lets do everything everyone doesnt want an will sell our product microsoft is droppin the ball to the point i might not buy one an im a xbox fan.. so im jus waiting for the e3 kinect festival to happen an if it does not only will i not buy a xbox 1 i will take my 360 an throw it away an never buy another microsoft product again in my life an fuck ps4 unless they make a better network i wont even look at sony

290°

More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

Read Full Story >>
spieltimes.com
Sonic18811d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 4h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos19h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb3318h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC9h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 9h ago
SonyStyled1d 10h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

1d 8h ago Replies(2)
ChasterMies22h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear2117h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 9h ago
jwillj2k41d 14h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 13h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC9h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon6158618h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k413h ago(Edited 13h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k413h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 13h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 3h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage20h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 12h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 12h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 4h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn197917h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage20h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

Show all comments (68)
90°

Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

Show all comments (7)
210°

Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

Read Full Story >>
eurogamer.net
XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

1d 23h ago
Hereandthere1d 19h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 1d 19h ago
Notellin2d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

1d 23h ago
Hereandthere1d 19h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 5h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 19h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 5h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney1d ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

1d 23h ago
fsfsxii2d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d 23h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

Show all comments (29)