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Microsoft needs to 'win' at E3 or say goodbye to their customers

Hardcore Gamer: If Microsoft were smart, they’d change their outlook between now and E3 or at least be honest and confess that they’re trying to set-up their consumers. They should speak more about the console itself and give concrete details about how the disc locking and selling of used games will work.

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BigFnHooters4005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

"If Microsoft were smart, they’d change their outlook"

The depth of the self delusion is staggering.

It's been four years of the same exact self delusion.

"Next E3 Microsoft is finally going to deliver!"

Consoles and their supporting structure take years to develop and set in motion. What you see right now from Microsoft IS IT.

* Microsoft has shut down almost all of their non-shovelware first party studios. So all this babble about 'showing more games' have to come from somewhere. There simply aren't secret Microsoft first party studios that can magically make these new franchises

* Microsoft has given up on the Asian market so there are no new franchises coming out from developers in that market

* The only possible area for Microsoft is what they've used as a crutch for the past decade - buying Xbox ports of PC games and pass them off as 'exclusives'

* The weak Xbox One hardware was finalized a long time ago and isn't going to change outside of Microsoft canceling launch this year. Nothing is going to change on that front.

Enemy4005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

Everyone's waiting for the PS4 reveal now. E3 belongs to Sony.

Considering how close E3 is now, Microsoft could have just gone all out today and disappoint at E3 again. It's become a normal thing for them anyway. Instead of impressing, they display this oversized VHS thing with no games, a bunch of TV features in which 3GB of the console will be wasted on leaving only 5GB of RAM for gaming, Kinect expanded meaning more Kinect games, more voice recognition, offline pass (lol), and Call of Duty DLC as their main event.

A clusterf*ck in every regard, and a bad, bad time for it to happen to make matters worse.

4 > One

Edit: Lol @ below.

ApolloTheBoss4005d ago

LOL look what I found. Next Xbox in a nutshell.

scofios4005d ago

Extra fee for playing used games WTF;

you might even have to pay extra fees for a red ring this time.

maxgamehard4005d ago

I believe that Sony will have the best conference but Nintendo will also bring a good amount of content

Sony and Nintendo still care about the core gamer at the end of the day.

Freak of Nature4005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

It really was a true clusterf*ck....

As a original box and 360 owner this show was exactly what I "did not" want to see...

Start the show with Gears 4, that's how you start the new gen, end it with halo 5, throw in Forza in the middle, something like this, break up the features, yada yada yada...

How about an appearance of Banjo alive and well on the next XBOX1 from Rare? Throw in Black tusk's new IP? They could show more at E3 still, they should have won over fans now, why only at E3? They could have still added looks into these games at E3, plus held back a couple other games...Add 15 minutes to the show, you mean to tell me that fans would actually mind that extra 15 minutes to be able to see 3/4/5 or system selling IP's coming in year 1?

The avoidance of showing more gpu and cpu specs is glaring too....

And just what are the 15 exclusives in year 1? I certainly hope it is "not" the list below. I would hope it would be all hardcore, but get this feeling it will be more like the list below...

Forza 5
Gears of War 4
Halo 5
Rare game
Quantum Break
Black Tusk Game
Fable 4
Ryse

A couple Kinect Exclusive's...
And about 5 XBLA exclusives...

VenomousHail4005d ago

@maxgamehard I agree with you that Sony will have the best conference, but I'm pretty sure Nintendo will not be present at E3.

insomnium24005d ago

Who the HELL wants to give voice commands to a console? It's embarassing to a whole new level.

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Pyrrhus4005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

Im just curious how many of their 15 'exclusives' are actually Kinect games.

BABYLEG4005d ago

There's no such thing as Kinect games. Its called Xbox one games. One system.

Man-E-Faces4005d ago

I would bet half of those are Kinect games, and let me tell you why I can assume this. You don't pack a Kinect in every box and not support it, otherwise Microsoft would still sell it separate as it is now. Kinect now that it's more improved & included will hold more precedent over a traditional controller only game.

EVILDEAD3604005d ago

Nah. They may lose this fanblogger, but they set themselves up good for a great E3.

It goes without saying that, both MS and Sony have to have a great E3 after both of their reveals though.

Evil

cyguration4005d ago

No Sony doesn't have to have a great E3, they just need to show a few more games, a price point and the console itself. That's it. They've got it in the bag.

Unlike MS I know EXACTLY what Sony will be about with the PS4 and it's about the games. I love that. They're working to bring back mid-budget games, which were stamped out due to all the money-chasing this gen. They're bringing in more indies and setting the price ceiling at $60 and the barrier of entry at free-to-play, with EVERYTHING else in between.

Microsoft didn't mention squat about game pricing, they didn't mention squat about game availability. Nothing about tools, nothing about game functionality, feature proofing or future proofing. NOTHING.

I'm sorry but MS has A LOT to show at E3 to warrant any interest out of this disgruntled gamer.

Sony just has to stay the line and they'll be all right. They've already won against MS for as far as I'm concerned unless MS takes a huge step in the opposite direction.

Gaming shouldn't be about buzzwords and marketing ploys. I don't spend my money on crap just so some shareholder can buy a golden yacht.

rainslacker4005d ago

MS is going to have to spend an inordinate amount of time at the Next E3 trying to spin, or better yet convince, all the stuff coming out today as a good thing for the gamer. If E3 is about the games, then well no game in the world is going to make me want an Xbox given what is currently known about it.

Hell, Sony could not do a conference this year ala Nintendo and probably still come out ahead of MS given current news.

Army_of_Darkness4005d ago

If you seriously think sony needs to have a great e3 showing as well even after you've just seen the xbox one reveal, then you clearly are a ms fanboy rather than a gamer.
Wake up bro! Sony's conference slaughtered ms's! And the sad thing is that they went after sony and still bombed!

EVILDEAD3604005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

Nah. it's 3 weeks prior to E3 and over 6 months prior to launch, MS is perfectly fine.

But, make no mistake, MS has to bring it's A-game to E3.

They said they were using E3 to concentrate on the games, well that's what they need to do.

If they squash the quirky stuff, show great games at E3, then the One is going to fly off the shelves.

But, if they phone it in which there is no indication that they will, then it's going to be an uphill battle.

Evil

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@ Army of Darkness

Nah. In my opinion, Sony did exactly what they were supposed to as well in Feb. The hardware stole the show, but they held off on showing the big dogs till E3 as well.

Nothing exempts any of them from needing a good showing at E3.

I didn't see any knockout punches from any of the reveals.

But we all know what franchises Sony has been holding on to for the last 3-4 years.

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The_Blue4005d ago

Why is there so much hate for the Xbox?
I don't get it? Its up to the developers. Its always been about games nothing else.

Army_of_Darkness4005d ago

"Its always been about games nothing else."

Exactly the reason why everyone is hating on the xbox one and loving the ps4.
Did you even watch the ps4 reveal??

Virtual_Reality4005d ago

And blocking used games.......

tuglu_pati4005d ago

MS is in deep trouble. I thought Nintendo was in trouble but MS just dug up a deeper hole.

ugly name
bad console design
weak specs
no games
casual oriented

At least Nitendo has a great first party catalog. MS better say "adios" because I dont think they'll make it through this next gen and this is coming from an xbox enthusiast.

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Reborn4005d ago

They need to provide some clarity, before that.

jc485734005d ago

it's like a deadly virus they are hiding from us.

004005d ago

they can't do that without paying a fee.

Rusty5154005d ago

Usher's gotta dance his ass off at E3 after that reveal..

Double_O_Revan4005d ago

I don't think even Usher and his moves can save the One. Not even taking off his shirt.

Rusty5154005d ago

Then Microsoft has to bring out the big guns...Justin Bieber to showcase dance central 4 running on the new kinect 2.0

Double_O_Revan4005d ago

A little late for that.

I said goodbye the moment they decided to block used games. Let alone the always connected policy.

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How can any Xbox studio trust Microsoft now?

For Xbox’s hugely expanded gaming division, anything that isn’t Call of Duty is now a failure, and that’s a problem

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lelo2play15h ago

Honestly, If I worked presently for Microsoft's gaming division, I would update my CV and look for work elsewhere...

Simon_the_sorcerer15h ago

I would do the same, because MS will most likely pull-off more stunts like this in the near future...

Chocoburger5h ago

"Now"?

How about "ever"?

They closed so many of their dev teams during the second half of the Xbox 360 era. Have we forgotten history so quickly?

Dummy fake journalists acting so surprised over these recent closures, when this is something that's been going on for well over a decade now with MS.

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Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures

"The sudden closure of several video-game studios at Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox division was the result of a widespread cost-cutting initiative that still isn’t finished.

This week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said.

Game Pass has not seen the massive growth that Xbox boss Phil Spencer may have been hoping for."

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just_looken11h ago

Sense it seems very few remember that human's were around before 2020 the next studio to close will be bethesda based no doubt on the history of.

Fallout 76
Elder scrolls online
elder scrolls blades mobile
fallout mobile
The vr versions of old games

Then you got starfield pissing out cash nothing to cover it.

I doubt tod's team or any sub team is making m$ cash they are no doubt on the chopping block for job cuts

If you can remember before 2020 even fallout 76 was made with over 4 studios.

-Foxtrot13h ago

"Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said"

So what you're saying is...you bought all these studios and you guys can't run them.

Jesus.

Inverno12h ago

Spread thin after firing over 2000 employees a few months prior. So basically they created the problem and their solution was to just fire more people. Absolute geniuses over at Xbox, of course can we even believe this to be the reason for the closures?

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Profchaos11h ago

Leaders can't run them hire more management create new roles don't shutter entire studios cause you can't figure out how to run them.

Unless the reality is this whole consolidation thing was really an excuse for IP harvesting

anast53m ago

He's lying. They are doing it for the shareholders.

Eonjay12h ago

Reports are suggesting that Game Pass will be getting a price hike soon and that Call of Duty may not be added to the day one offering. I honestly have a hard time believing this but it does beg the question why exactly did GP fail? I think the answer is that it just didn't get the growth that it anticipated. Jim was right but I wish he wasn't because at the end of the day, its gamers, devs and other front-line workers who have to absorb the blow for Spencer and team's miscalculations.

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NotoriousWhiz11h ago

And out of the ashes something even better than Xbox will be born.

Eonjay11h ago

Honestly as long as is not a situation where the industry has to contract in order focus wealth on a few people who are already trillionaires..

Barlos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

It's already here and it was born before Xbox was even a thing. It's called PlayStation.

Tacoboto10h ago

I think 2022 killed the Series X.

2021 was a good year for Xbox though and maybe the best in a long long time, hardware and software and as a publisher. Halo Infinite launched to popularity, Forza Horizon 5 blew everyone away, Psychonauts 2 was so well received, Flight Simulator on console, Deathloop even on PS5 & PC.

But they followed that up with next to nothing. Then 2023 with Redfall, a disappointing Forza, Starfield, and 2024 leads with closures and layoffs. And some tweets reminding us Hellblade is days away.

The only disappointment with the PS5 is not enough Sony games. Xbox followed up no games with disappointing ones.

Scissorman12h ago

For all the armchair executives who were calling for Sony to release its big-budget AAA games on PS+, the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation. Game Pass has killed Xbox. Congrats.

shinoff218312h ago

There's not many of of us clamoring for Sony to do this because most of us understand it would kill Playstation. I'm sure there's a few but I've not seen alot of it myself.

porkChop39m ago

"the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation"

But the same thing *has* been happening at PS. They've closed, what, 3 or 4 studios so far this gen? Laid off plenty of staff, restructured studios, etc.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast1d ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech519h ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom21h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff218321h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus2320h ago(Edited 20h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

DOMination-17h ago

How much confidence do people have in these games being good though? I hope they will be (especially Avowed) but from what we know of them so far, it's hardly a guarantee, is it?

And even if they do turn out to be good, how much of that will be down to Xbox and its leadership? Most of these games were either sequels to games made before being acquired or started development before being acquired.

And just a note on Hellblade II - it is out in two weeks and unless I'm missing something, I don't see much in the way of previews or advertising from Microsoft. Not ideal for a niche game that looks like it probably cost a lot of money to make. It genuinely feels like another game being sent out to die and then have the studio shut down.

Elda16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

To me...Avowed graphics look cheap, the game looks generic as well as boring.

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anast1d ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast20h ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim20h ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

anast15h ago

I find it interesting that people have to resort to praising how they were randomly born in a certain location to say they're not weird. But, I'm not sure this kind of stupidity can be generalized over an entire group of people, at least, I'm being optimistic here.

Eonjay1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman22h ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto21h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA21h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda21h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz14920h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MatrixxGT19h ago

Let’s not pretend Sony is setting the world on fire with its first party either….it’s been crickets from them as well. In fact they even said not to expect any at all this year.
MS is a dumpster fire and Sony isn’t fighting anymore and it shows. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Skuletor14h ago

Wasn't it no new existing IP entries? That would still leave room for new IPs, maybe we'll see one or more of those this year.

Sonic188119h ago

I was actually thinking about that. You beat me to it

MrDead23h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson22h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff218321h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus2320h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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