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Destructoid: Microsoft man on always-online consoles: 'Deal with it'

Jim Sterling writes "Rumors that the Next Xbox will be restricted by the same always-online requirement that has crippled several major PC releases of late has not exactly been met with applause from prospective customers. One man, however -- Microsoft Studios creative director Adam Orth -- doesn't see why anybody could have an issue with a DRM Box."

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NastyLeftHook04055d ago

yeah..just deal with it. take it like a good boy. smh

Yi-Long4054d ago

... I'll deal with it by buying a PS4.

guitarded774054d ago

I'm hearing a lot of people are having the same reaction. It was stupid for him to say that. I'm certain MS's PR team is in a tailspin right now trying to figure out what to do. That single statement has changed many's perception of what the next XBOX will be, and we really don't know anything yet.

darthv724054d ago

you all just got seriously trolled and didnt even pick up on it?

That would go down as one of THE BEST pranks in console history. It would probably beat out the whole Sheng Long prank of Street Fighter 2 many years ago.

Anyone in this day and age can pass themselves off as another person when hiding behind such social media outlets like Twitter/facebook.

To think there is someone crafty enough to play on the minds of others, especially a hot topic of the 720, and get away with it.....not hard to believe at all.

That is why i will only believe the words coming from the presentation floor. If at that time all of these 'rumors' are proven true then i will apologize for not believing them sooner.

until then....i don't buy any of it. and neither should anyone else.

GrieverSoul4054d ago

First and Foremost, I dont like this always ON thing!!

However...

You gotta handle it to Microsoft. I mean, they found a way to put people paying for a service that is, and always was, free in other competitors. They made you pay for LIVE and got away with it. Now they are trying to make it that always ON is the way to go. Im not saying they will succed but there are people who defende paying for LIVE because of this and that... lets see how they will spin this.

BTW, I have a X360 and a PS3 and I dont pay for LIVE. My LIVE susbcription is Silver because GOLD is the price of the game I pay for the PS3 with free online.

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fermcr4054d ago

Isn't this duplicate news ?

NicSage4054d ago

So many people are going to dupe this topic, it's too hot not to.

LOGICWINS4054d ago

@Yi-Long- Preach brutha preach!

MikeMyers4054d ago

How do you deal with it if you don't have an online connection? We've seen these services go down before and while it is annoying you can still play your games offline. That's why SimCity got so much flack, they decided in their wisdom it needed a constant connection. So what you had were people paying 50 or 60 dollars and not being able to play. Guess what's going to happen when your $400 game console can't play ANY game?

RM-TatoTiburon4054d ago

i'll wait for the presentation, if this is truth i hope they know that internet connections go off very often more than energy cuts and will be a real bumer if i can't play games beacse i don't have internet in the moment

FunkMacNasty4054d ago

Hey tentonsoftube, nobody wants an 'always on' connection. But you've made it clear (and it's outlined pretty well in your comment history) that your a close minded Sony fanboy.

Everyone knows your not getting an Xbox of any kind, so instead of reminding us, why not save that one bubble of yours to say something positive... maybe in an article about Sony related stuff?

DigitalRaptor4053d ago

That comment failed pretty hard.

1) What kind of self-respecting person would get the new Xbox if all of these negative, anti-consumer rumours end up being true?

2) Why would anyone spin this debacle into a positive?

3) You get at least one bubble per article. So he can comment on Sony articles AND Microsoft articles.

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dedicatedtogamers4055d ago (Edited 4055d ago )

People will always make excuses. I'm already hearing them now:

"What's the big deal? Are you on N4G at the library? Everyone has internet. It's not a big deal".

Okay. Well, as a PC gamer of 20 years, I'm just going to keep my mouth shut. Go ahead and let Microsoft have control over your game library! Have fun! I've already been down that road. I'll let you kids wallow in your naivety. At least on PC, you can find cracks and hacks for your games when the DRM f***s it all up. Good luck doing that with your 720 games.

BanBrother4054d ago

Already lost a bubble today by butt-hurt 360 fanboys, so at least I can't lose another. If anyone buys this console knowing it has online DRM (presuming it does in fact have always online) then I hope they lose internet connection a lot and that XBL gets hacked and down for a month.

Anyone stupid enough to buy it deserves that.

amiga-man4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

xbox owners bring it on themselves paying for online was a green light for M$ to continue taking advantage, some people never learn and will defend it to the detriment of all gamers.

have a well said bubble BanBrother for trying to wake them up.

die_fiend4054d ago

But David Jaffe has defended him. Which must mean something right? A guy who hasn't made a good game in about a decade but still thinks people are listening to him.

WeAreLegion4054d ago

You didn't like Twisted Metal? I loved it!

InTheZoneAC4054d ago

Twisted Metal was a good game, although you can tell it was rushed or didn't have a long development cycle.

CEOSteveBallmer4054d ago

If david jaffe defended him is true, Well "sigh" how the mighty have fallen.

Tultras4054d ago

God of War???

You mentioned decade.

die_fiend4054d ago

8 years then...sheesh. And look what's happened to that franchise

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InTheZoneAC4054d ago

if the idea of any product is to lure people away from other products and buy their own, then MS has failed in every way, like they have since they first came out.

PS4 was already a 100% launch day purchase from me and I find it funny how MS is doing everything they can to throw their own customers away.

I guess they figured people weren't "smart enough" to leave when 360 was just an issue waiting to happen that they can pretty much go in any direction they want now and the same people will stick with them.

lovegames7184054d ago

Morons love a good shafting so they'll still move units. Remember these are the same political that supported micro after the read fiasco. A situation in which micro knowingly rushed hardware with high failure rate that would die after first year warranty and micro didn't have to fix or replace it. Thousands and millions rebought Xbox not knowing initially it was a micro swindle then lawsuits came and micro divulged they rushed out system and extended warranty but by then many had already bought new systems. But even after that bit of info did ppl stop buying Xbox? No!!! I mean I never bought an Xbox because that was highly insulting and shady but many many did and that is worse than this always online rumor IMO.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic188110h ago(Edited 10h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus2350m ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

SonyStyled6h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

Ms3tjt4h ago

“ Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. ”

Aka

“I don’t know how business works”

Domkakop3h ago

You might need to take a good hard look in the mirror

Ms3tjt3h ago

Yeah I forgot Xbox is separate from Microsoft and Xbox borrowed the 69bn from Microsoft, and Microsoft didn’t get COD, Candy crush etc in return 😂😂👏

jwillj2k410h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot9h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

RNTody9h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

anast8h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19798h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead1d 23h ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 21h ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 10h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie1d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere15h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin20h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere15h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere15h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX1d 13h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

RNTody1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno1d 11h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 10h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 9h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii20h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno19h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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