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Only 4 things Needed to make the Xbox 720 a Success

The Wii U has released, the PS4 had announced, the only thing left is the Xbox 720. With the success of the Xbox 360 there’s really only 4 things needed to make the Xbox 720 a success.

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Zuperman4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

games, which PS4 has plenty of.

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-Superman-4064d ago

1. Ability to Play Used Games - Maybe, but people still buy new console to play next gen games, not last.

2. Upgradable Console - never going to work. Game are all ported to same console. If console is upgradable, then it would be stupid, some people have more powerful console than others. How those games are going to work then? It´s only possible on PC, not consoles.

3. No Social Media Shenanigans - WHAT?

4. New IP’s (Developer Support) - It need alot games too, not only new IPs.

Fail article... nothing about online, nothing about games, nothing about power, nothing about price...
Just block social media, make console upgradable and then win console war? Sorry, but this is just stupid.

PhantomT14124064d ago

By "Ability to Play Used Games", it meant second-hand games, not last gen games.

MarkusMcNugen4063d ago

@-Superman-
"2. Upgradable Console - never going to work. Game are all ported to same console. If console is upgradable, then it would be stupid, some people have more powerful console than others. How those games are going to work then? It´s only possible on PC, not consoles."

So you are saying its not possible to have developers develop a game with two tiers in mind? It may be slight bit longer of development time, but I have to image the game could do a hardware check and increase the graphics quality if possible.

I dont have an opinion whether they should or shouldnt. Frankly I dont care, I just wanted to point out that it could be done, its not impossible as you said.

Zhipp4064d ago

This isn't a PS4 vs Nextbox article, so let's try not to start a war in the comments, eh?

Anyway, points 1 and 4 are right on the money, imo, but I disagree with 2 and 3. An upgradable console would result in a fragmented market. Devs would be forced to choose between using the extra power or catering to a larger audience. Wanna guess which choice they'd make? Besides, PC tech improvements have actually been slowing recently, so the whole point is moot.

As for point 3, social media is a big deal these days. The ability to easily share my gaming experiences with friends and family can only be a good thing. It's not like you HAVE to use the function, if you don't want to.

MarkusMcNugen4063d ago

"An upgradable console would result in a fragmented market. Devs would be forced to choose between using the extra power or catering to a larger audience."

I dont understand why people think its impossible for a game to check the hardware in the system and adjust accordingly. Its not as if they would have to chose one or the other. Its not as if PC developers have to make a game strictly for one piece of hardware. Most are adjustable, so why not a console game?

Reverent4063d ago (Edited 4063d ago )

@MarkusMcNugen, plain and simple , IT WON'T WORK. The N64 tried it back in the 90's with the upgradable RAM cartridge, and guess what... It didn't work. Here's the reason why...

People couldn't just buy the console and play every single game that would come out on it. A LOT of games would REQUIRE the RAM upgrade, forcing the consumer to buy an extra component for their console, otherwise, they couldn't play the game.

Now, I know we've made a lot of advancements in technology so this wouldn't play out the same way with future consoles, but regardless, it will STILL fragment the market. Consoles are meant to be easy to use; just plug in and play. If we start adding in complicated features like "upgradable parts", then why even bother with consoles and not just go with PC? And face it, a few exclusive titles, even if they're some of the greatest games ever, won't get the casual market consumer to decide which console to get unless it's a familiar game like Uncharted, Halo, or Call of Duty, and while yes, these games will surely be around next gen, tons of new IP's are going to be enter the race too, which will make decision making a lot harder, ESPECIALLY on the casual consumer. Why add in more features that could turn off potential customers?

AngelicIceDiamond4064d ago

Well there's 5 games that are highly likely to get shown off. Lion heads new Ip or Fable MMO game, cryteks Ryse, Alan Wake 2, Rares new Ip and Black Tusks new Ip.

Sony fanboys ignore this because you'll do what you do best and thats disagree, so ignore my comment.

TXIDarkAvenger4064d ago

This article is not relevant to PS4. So why bring it up? Oh that's right, trying to start a flame bait.

brave27heart4064d ago

"Only 4 things needed to make the Xbox 720 a success"

So assuming the next Xbox has these fours things it'll be a success? What about if its price point starts at $1000? Or it has new IPs but drops Halo, Gears and Forza? It allows used games but doubles the price of Xbox live?

These things are never going to happen, but my point is it takes a multitude of things to come together to be a success, not just four features.

Skizelli4063d ago

Here's my list:

1. More first party titles. Way, way more.
2. Free online play.
3. No hardware failures.
4. ???
5. Profit.

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Godmars2904064d ago

No. Consoles were never meant to be upgradable. That's what PCs are for.

The minute you start messing with specs post launch there's only going to be compatibility problems.

MikeMyers4064d ago

1. Good software

2. Decent hardware

3. Reasonable price

4. Good marketing

Those are 4 main key areas I can think of. Of course free access to online gaming, good relations with publishrers and indie developers, exclusive content, and new gameplay experiences can help too.

Transporter474064d ago

1: show the hardware or say specs
2: announce it
3: doesn't block used games
4: have as many features as PS4 or try to.

_-EDMIX-_4064d ago

1.Go back in time and buy developers and open up some studios

2.pretend that blocking used games was a joke to throw off the media LOL!

3. TV apps that 5 to 6 people care about

4. Forget Kinect was made and make it a bullet point not more then half of the damn show!

5.PGR5 reveal, Halo teaser and some new IP's damn it!

Zhipp4064d ago

1. M$ has a lot of studios, and they've already opened up a couple more. Time travel wont be necessary. :)

2. M$ hasn't made any official comments on blocking used games, have they? SO, technically, they could just ignore the whole thing. Of course, if they DO block them, then that's it. The console's dead.

3. I agree.

4. I hate to say it, but Kinect is here to stay. I am hoping that they somehow manage to find a hardcore usage for it, though. Crossing my fingers for Crytek's game.

5. PGR is M$? Did they even bother releasing any games in that series for the 360?

_-EDMIX-_4064d ago

@Zhipp'z

1. Name a few that where opened up for core games other then Black Tusk studios and someone might care. I know of the studios MS have opened up.....they are ONLY Kinect studios. Find one some and maybe I'll believe you LOL!

2.At this point they don't need to, the same people who are telling use about 720, told us about PS4 and Wii U and where they wrong?

3.LOL, now both of us know thats going to happen

4.Kinect is for casual, MS will try to force it down our throats like usual.

5.PGR is MS, I say this because it makes sense to launch with a arcade racer because it has MASS appeal vs a sim racer. I mean I love GT but really, GT is not a game for everone, neither is Forza, but more people can pick up and play Motorstorm, PGR, Driveclub etc

And they didn't because of what was said in 1. They don't own Bizarre Creations anymore, I'm hoping Turn 10 is working on a PGR for 720 cause they are the only team that could pull it off at MS right now.

MarkusMcNugen4063d ago

@_-EDMIX-_
"2.At this point they don't need to, the same people who are telling use about 720, told us about PS4 and Wii U and where they wrong?"

Yes. They were. There were a bunch of rumors floating around and tons of them were wrong.

Gamer-404064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

Ps4/new Xbox/WiiU all success, different people, different games, different consoles.
Console wars boring. Games important.

LordHiggens4064d ago

Read this sentence in the voice of Mordin Solus, it's hilarious.

also you're right.

Eldyraen4064d ago

It is written a lot like he talks, lol.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk771d 14h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE1d 11h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7301d 11h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor1d 8h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos1d 8h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor1d 8h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos1d 8h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus233d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC2d ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled3d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k43d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot3d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC2d ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k42d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k42d ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody3d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead3d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast3d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19793d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead5d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel5d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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