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Will the PS4 Win This Generation?

Cheat Code Central's Robert VerBruggen writes: "In the last week or so we've seen a ton of new information about the PlayStation 4. Without a better grasp of what Microsoft is up to—to say nothing of alternative consoles like Ouya and the Steam Box—we can’t say much about how the PS4 will measure up to the competition. But here are seven good reasons to think that Sony will win this generation."

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Walker4074d ago

Yeah, PS4 will win next generation with the high difference just like PS1 and specially PS2 !

Cupid_Viper_34074d ago (Edited 4074d ago )

@Walker

I don't think so. Because of what Nintendo did with the Wii, the term "winning" have to be redefined. If can't just be about selling the most hardware. The PS1, PS2, didn't just win on numbers, they simply had the best line of software to back up the sales.

For this Generation, In my opinion, the PS3 is First with the Best software line up, and 2nd in sales. The xbox 360 is second with the Second best software line up, and 3rd in sales. And the Wii came in last, with the most sales, but worst software line up out of the 3.

So I would assume that as gamers, winning means you have something that the others don't, and that's more quality games, no? And sales and popularity would take a back sit to that.

blitz06234074d ago (Edited 4074d ago )

Yeah sure, cause we ALL know what the next Xbox is going to offer!

Seriously, even when MS reveals Durango it's STILL too early to even predict.

At least wait for E3.

joab7774074d ago

U mean wii was first with worst games. Anyway, i agree. There can be more than 1 winner and sony may be tryinh to get their mojo back but behind closed doors, its an internal competition more than external. They can be successful without selling the most consoles. They can help pull other divisions out of the sewers. They can set themselves up for constant, continious revenue.

I do think Sony will ultimately be the hardcore console, battling with pc and steambox in its various forms (though steambox is another story altogether). Yes, microsoft will hit hard but i dont believe they will even try to go toe to toe for hardcore base. They will give enough and expect moat hardcore gamers will eventually buy a new xbox, but i think they r gonna try and crush nintendo. We will see and microsoft may surprise us all and come out swinging...we will see.

Spinal4074d ago

The PS4 has made all the changes i wanted for the next console. It will be my only console for next gen - Day one.

UI change
L2/R2 trigger changes
Focus on devs/games
Complete win in my book.

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Boody-Bandit4074d ago

It all depends on Microsoft and which approach they will take with their next gen offering. IMO, and I think that of a lot of 360 gamers, MS has went to casual the past few years with Kinect and relying heavily on only a few exclusives franchise titles (Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable) and exclusive timed DLC.

I honestly have a hard time not seeing Sony being favored going into the next generation considering they keep churning out new IPs yearly and giving their audience a wide variety to choose from.

But you never know. MS started this generation strong and they might have an ace up their sleeve and drops some serious bombs with new exclusive IP's and innovative expansions to XBL. I haven't heard of MS purchasing or building any new dev/publishers.

I am very excited with what Sony showed during the PS4 presentation but I think it's too soon to know until we see more from Sony and MS shows their hand. Either way I'm getting both as I always do. I just wish they were being released tomorrow. I'm ready now!

Cupid_Viper_34074d ago (Edited 4074d ago )

@ Biggest Nintendo Fan.

The Wii line up may have been the best they've ever been for Nintendo, but they weren't nearly as many as the other 2 consoles.

Third Party games made up the majority of most people's library this gen, and that severely hurt the Wii in that regards. So first games alone can't do it against Sony or Microsoft.

If you look at software line up for all 3 of them (including multiplatform games) The Wii comes out with the short-handed.

CaulkSlap4074d ago

Nintendo certainly redefined winning a console war. Most units sold and yet fizzled out in 4 years. Cash grab from casuals based on a gimmick and cheap last-gen hardware. They're quickly seeing the longevity of that strategy with the Wii U. And Microsoft is doing nothing but following Nintendo over the cliff by throwing everything behind Kinect. Unless Microsoft has got something big up their sleeve, Sony has the edge this time around.

Outside_ofthe_Box4074d ago

***"the term "winning" have to be redefined."***

That right there proves how juvenile this whole "wining" thing is. Considering that we have to "redefine" the term, how about not having a winner at all, unless of course there's a clear cut dominance like the PS2 which I doubt will ever happen again.

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miyamoto4074d ago (Edited 4074d ago )

I can assure you one thing PS4 will win the war against game piracy like the PS3... and unlike Nintendo and M$ who are still struggling in that front.

That is fer sure what hooks all the 3rd party developers to "jump in."

MadLad4074d ago (Edited 4074d ago )

Seems likely at the moment.

Just waiting to see what Microsoft has to offer. Unless they do a 180 in how they handle their gaming division, I don't see the next xbox being the force that it was for most of this generation.

Can't rule out Nintendo though. While the tech, obviously, won't match what is seen in the other two, if they can get the games, the tech doesn't matter. It's just about finding developers willing to dedicate their time to the system.

Gamer-404074d ago (Edited 4074d ago )

Agree, this absolute logical.

Jaqen_Hghar4074d ago

A man believes so. A company made every mistake in the book and will still end up with around 100 million consoles sold by the time a console dies off. A company will not make those mistakes again. A company will release at a competitive price most likely, has shown it has at least 2 established franchise sequels at or near launch (Killzone confirmed launch and what greater way to sell a new system than a pretty shooter that all the headsets can be used for online), will release not too long after it's rival if later at all, and will not have difficult architecture. Marketing may be fixed as well which a company hasn't had since a Bandicoot's commercials. A man is confident.

unchartedxplorer4074d ago

There isn't really such thing as "winning" when you look at a consoles performance. That will just start a fanboy flame war. But I believe it will sell lots of units, if it is as good as I think it will be.

zebramocha4074d ago (Edited 4074d ago )

Yes,both playstation platforms sold better and had more third party games than its competitors,only this gen is everything odd,Sony went from the top to the bottom,the weird thing with the ps3 is,they came out later than the xbox,had a higher price,a online in its infancy,and not as much third part support but the overall sales are similar to Ms.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 12h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken23h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 8h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 8h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 8h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 4h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 7h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 7h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg2d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 23h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 19h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies22d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken22d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga22d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken22d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6422d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12522d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91322d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer22d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91321d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit21d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher22d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit21d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher22d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken22d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2322d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218322d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder22d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts22d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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