Come at me, Bro: Can Playstation All-Stars Support a Competitive Scene?

Gaming Unwrapped Writer Ryan T Writes "November 20th keeps getting closer and closer, leaving people all the more excited for Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale. The title is supposed to act like a “Sony Smash Bros” of sorts, bringing the popular fighting experience to fans of Sony’s empire. Instead of getting to use cute pokemon and iconic italian plumbers, you will get to use little sacks and handsome treasure hunters..."

[RockmanII7]

It won't be as prominent as Tekken Tag 2 or Persona 4, but I'd be interested to see what the Smash community has to say about it.

[Megaton]

Too simplistic for a really hardcore competitive scene, but I'm sure it'll make the rounds as an undercard type thing.

[Knight_Crawler]

You will probably get disagrees for saying that but the truth is that this game is a smash button melee game.

As a big PS1 and PS2 fan I have always wanted this game but was wishing that they had went with a more of a Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter or even something of there own type game...Smash Bros is great and I understand Sony wanted to cater to all ages but I would have loved to rip off sweet tooth head with Kratos.

Edit: @ the disagrees I am sorry you dont feel the same but a chance to make a fighting game with a roster full of PS1,PS2 and PS3 characters only comes once in a blue moon so excuse me for wanting something more mature and less cell shaded.

[Nimblest-Assassin]

I like these types of games more than MK and street fighters, because anyone of any skill level can play them... and its possible to play with people of your skill level

I have played PSABR, and there are 2 extremes of people playing

1) The people you described
2) People who are actually competitive, and combo and juggle

Smash (melee, not brawl) and PSABR cater to both who want to have fun and those who want something competetive

Its not for everyone, since like you said... you want something along the lines of MK... but for most this will suffice

[Nimblest-Assassin]

It really depends... I've seen two types of gameplay

1) Your everyday players.. just playing to have fun

2) Your competitive players, who actually juggle, and play strategically

It depends on how people react to the end product... but I agree that the game like Smash, won't be that prominant in tournaments, but will have a pressence there

[Dannycr]

I agree with you because this game (unlike smash) has no depth at all. It's just smashing buttons and dodging random spammers and specials. I tried the beta and got bored extremely fast. I was sooo excited about this, but it was a huge letdown

[MaxXAttaxX]

I'm pretty sure you're just not that good and haven't encountered any high level players that make good use of the combo system yet. Gotta give it time.

You can get by mashing buttons in Tekken as well, but it's one of the biggest competitive fighting games ever, and you'll know it when you encounter skilled players.

[Dannycr]

You are assuming. It's very easy to do that, but it's ok, it's normal that whenever someone has a negative opinion about a game, then he probable just sucks, right?

Well I'm an above average Smash Bros player. I can almost say I'm a very good Smash Bros player, and no, this is not about being good or bad, is about the gameplay being bland and boring. They promised that it was not a Smash Bros clone and it is and it's a bad one.

We will see how it will do when it comes out, but IMHO, the game is a terrible Smash Bros clone and does not bring anything new to the table to be considered special.

[HammadTheBeast]

I thought EVO already had started preparing for a competitive scene.

[jimbobwahey]

I'm fairly sure this is being balanced as a competitive fighter with tournament play in mind, hence getting people like Seth on board and having quite a deep combo system in the game.

While at first glance it may look similar to Smash Bros, I'd say that the core fighting mechanics are definitely significantly deeper. The team working on it know what they're doing.

[DivineAssault]

Its just going to be fun.. I doubt tournament fighting was adressed when making it.. They just wanted to throw in a bunch of characters from different worlds together for some comic brawling.. Ima buy it cuz it has cross buy but im also geting DOA5 or MAYBE tekken tag 2 for serious competition

[omarzy]

Yes, but not to the same level as Smash.

[Omar91]

I think the people saying it wont be a competitive game are those whose simply havent played it. If you look deeper into the game you'l notice that there are chained combos for characters and over 24 attacks to execute. Im more then certain they had tournaments in mind when making this game because they are also trying to give hardcore gamers what they want.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

I dont think so the combos cant be to do deep or difficult to execute. Once u hit level 3 super u can problly kill everyone on the field.

[Relientk77]

Yeah, it can from what I've seen from the game

[smashcrashbash]

I love how gamers are so negative and just talk without thinking. Do you honestly think that once people get the hang of it or you come across people that play more strategically that you will just be able to press buttons and just let off 3 level super attacks and win? I have watched videos of people dodging Sly and Sweet Tooth's attacks without getting hit, still losing after using two three level attacks, using the characters attacks as dodge moves and catching people in mid air with special attacks. And like I have said a million times before it is very similar to SBB. You punch the person until the meter goes up and smash them away.Beside pushing them off the side or using weapons that was basically it.

Before I knew I had to use smash moves I could punch the person for the whole match and they would never go down.And not to mention people have said that people have different strategies to get the most kills which will come into play especially when you play the mode that you have to get a certain amount of kills.People still talk as if everyone is just going to sit there and let you do what you want to them, that you just press buttons, get up to level two and three and you automatically win. I sat there and watched someone use Parappa's sure kill attack twice and he still lost the match .Why? Because he let him self be killed to many times. He didn't dodge or escape or block anything. The person thought that he could just pull off two sure kills and it was in the bag but other people killed hims several times and cancelled out his wins.

And I also love how people always talk about how complex SSB is when I have watched eight year olds beating grown people by just mashing the buttons and people winning by playing cheaply. If SSB was as complex as people keep claiming it is then why can people still mash buttons and play cheaply and win? I didn't even know how to play it but was coming in second and first the first few times I played it. If PASBR supports a competitive scene is debatable I will admit that but fact that people think that SSB is this complex fighter I think is right up there with people still thinking Mario is still tough to beat when many people can finish new Mario's in a heartbeat.

[dragonrage00]

i can agree with you on the original ssb and ssbb, but melee is a different story.if a kid beats a grown up in melee by button mashing, its cuz the grown up(like most ppl that play melee) hasnt scratched the surface of the system. If you watch a pro play melee, and then try to do the same, you just wont be able to do it. Ive played it for years, and im still amazed by the level those guys reached.

[garos82]

watch them make it too hard and then people complain about it and hoping for a dark souls "easy" mode.

alot of games these days are catered to more amateurs in the gaming scene but having said that im liking the look of this. got a bit of juggling and aircombos in there. they dont look overly complex as of yet nor do they look impossible to pull off. i think they hit the nail on the head

[dragonrage00]

it really depends on how the game is structured. super smash bros melee is the perfect exemple of a game thats easy to get into, and play with your friends, but has tons advanced techniques for the most dedicated to get really good at (watch pros play melee, its just crazy). brawl on the other hand, kinda dropped the ball on the competitive aspect. well really have to wait and see.