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ME3's Exclusive Voice Control Excuse is Ridiculous

Voice Command. It didn't start with expensive peripherals this generation. Why, just last generation, the least powerful console had SOCOM. No, not starting with SOCOM 3, after years of getting the engine right and well enough to "squeeze" in the processing required for voice command. Nope, it started with SOCOM *ONE*. But that game used small, linear levels and......what's that? SOCOM used fairly large, fairly opened up levels? Ah, yes, that's right.

But old game systems using voice commands without aid is only the beginning of the revelations.

Tell me....what systems is Mass Effect 3 coming to? PS3 and Xbox 360. That's right. PS3 and Xbox360 only. Just those platforms. Not any others.
.....Oh yeah....PC.
Wait....so what is the barrier there? PCs built with gaming in mind with modern processors can't muster up the miniscule processing power required for voice commands that last generation and older systems no issue with?
Just how powerful IS this processor in the Kinect, then?

The Marvell PXA 168. Powerhouse of epic proportions. Enabler of technology used in games over a decade ago. The gentleman's choice of Digital Photo Frame application processor. That's right, this processor's few notable uses include being the processor of displaying pictures. The Marvell PXA 168 is an application processor, meant for menial tasks in digital devices.

In short, the claim that the internal hardware is the reason for the voice commands being only on the Xbox 360 via Kinect is balderdash, because the hardware really isn't so impressive that the ps3 couldn't handle the small task and the PC can have much better hardware to handle it anyway, and older games on older systems had no issue doing voice control without damaging the integrity of the game. From all angles, this argument is worthless. The reason for exclusivity is clearly due to a background deal, and that's fine......just don't try to insult our intelligence when making up excuses.

SilentNegotiator4480d ago (Edited 4480d ago )

This excuse has been busted from all angles. There is no reason why voice control shouldn't be a minor processing matter (as on games like SOCOM with large lists of possible commands) and available on the other systems, especially of which, the PC.

And I'll post this PDF first, from the company, of its theoretical uses and top specs:
http://www.marvell.com/sele...
....that I can practically guarantee it is not at in a device (kinect) that has a $50 BOM.
****Even if it were the most power application (or even non-application) processor in existence, this still would not excuse the fact that the task of voice commands is NOT a difficult process, as demonstrated by games like SOCOM, running on the Playstation 2's relatively weak hardware.

soundslike4480d ago (Edited 4480d ago )

You're right about the hardware power, but consider this:

If the kinect has proprietary software for voice recognition, that's something that Bioware don't have to develop themselves. I don't think Bioware would ever have opted for voice recognition if it meant spending time and money to write the software themselves. EVEN IF it was only a minor addition.

Besides, who cares? Do you really feel left out? I wouldn't be caught dead saying those commands...its no skin off my back that PS3 doesn't have voice support.

coryok4480d ago

ps3 has voice recognition, bioware wouldnt have to develop anything for ps3 either.

its a business deal nothing else, but no i dont care if it has voice recognition or not, hell i dont even care about the game very much

Christopher4480d ago

Kind of feel like we're beating a dead horse with this conversation, but, did want to point out something.

***If the kinect has proprietary software for voice recognition, that's something that Bioware don't have to develop themselves***

Sony has built into the PS3, PSP, and PSVita SDKs voice recognition tools and libraries already.

soundslike4480d ago

Ok then.

It was always a business deal anyway

Hufandpuf4480d ago

People seem to forget rainbow six Vegas had voice controls too.

JellyJelly4480d ago (Edited 4480d ago )

Even Rainbow Six 3 on the original Xbox had it, so it's nothing new.

I don't really see why people are so upset by this. Stuff like this is common in this industry and happens all the time. When DICE only showed the PS3 version of Battlefield 3 I didn't see any blogs about it though.

SilentNegotiator4480d ago

"When DICE only showed the PS3 version of Battlefield 3 I didn't see any blogs about it though"

How does that compare to content being left out and getting BS excuses for it that insult our intelligence?

I mean, we KNOW what it means when they show one version of a game but not the other. Because one looks better than the other (PS3 version had MLAA in BF3). That happens about a hundred times more often in the 360 version's favor anyway.

If this was just them not showing ps3/pc footage of Mass Effect 3, I'd shrug my shoulders and walk away. They did a good job with the ps3 version of ME2, and we all know the PC version will be fine (except for having EA's spyware).

Godmars2904480d ago

That its in Binary Domain says that voice command in ME3 is just to sell Kinect to Xbox users.

Sobari4480d ago

>Implying people even care about the voice controls.

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Fallout 4's 'next gen' update is over 14 gigs, breaks modded saves, & doesn't change much at all

We were expecting problems with mod support, but there are a lot of other issues.

isarai10h ago

Wow what the actual hell 🤣🤣🤣

just_looken10h ago

This is why you get the GOG version on gog you can select the version of the game to download.

On pc fallout 4 fallout new vegas and skyrim are all broken on steam because they all got the same "next gen" update.

Skyrim dec 2023
https://www.pcgamer.com/sky...

Can not find new vegas but anyone that modded it knows the script extender there was also broken

Valkyrye8h ago

Not accidental, they want modders to stop modding their older games to force them to mod Shitfield.

just_looken6h ago

There doing the same on starfield with a mods store and blocking mods

There goal is like blizzard and what they did with fallout 76 you make mods they can sell and you become a slave.

On skyrim they have "trusted" mod devs now basically a badge that lets your mod on the store you get a crumb of the sale when someone buys it.

Inverno5h ago

lol to the disagrees, the last Skyrim update broke mods too. They've been trying to kill mods to monetize them in creation club for years, it's not a stretch that they purposely put out patches just to break free mods.

porkChop3h ago

The disagrees are from people who have common sense. They aren't trying to kill mods. Most mods for any game will break with a new update because they rely on files/code that have been changed. This isn't new. Even with Bethesda this would happen way before the creation club. Mod support is literally one of the things that got Bethesda to where they are, and they're one of the only devs that releases comprehensive mod tools for each of their games.

Chocoburger4h ago

Over 14 GBs and doesn't change much at all? What? Taking up that much drive space for a pathetic 'remastering' is shameful.

Par for Bethesda.

Aussiesummer3h ago

It's not a remaster, it's a next gen update.

badz1493h ago

LOL people are actually expecting massive improvements or something? From Bethesda?? the same people who released Skyrim multiple times and the all look like shit? THAT Bethesda? are people for real?

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

The ps5 version doesn't change a ton but from my small playtime it's enough to make me want to replay it just to have it running at 60.

A side note to this my PS4 version no longer boots after it's "update" so I guess that's what it feels like to own a Bethesda game on PC

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein9h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno5h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k44h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson3h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu4h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson3h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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Gears of War Voice Actor Hints At New Game Announcement Coming In June

A voice actor from The Coalition's third-person shooter series, Gears of War, has hinted at a new game announcement coming in June.

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Ra30303h ago

Hopefully Microsoft will go back to the original story line and get away from that woke nonsense from the last Gears game Gears of Woke! But were talking about Microsoft so all the betting money is on more of the same woke nonsense.

Sciurus_vulgaris2h ago

The Locust trilogy concluded with Gears of War 3. I don’t get how Gears 4 and 5 are “woke” .