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EU PSN Welcome Back Pack; My Reaction

I'm willing to forgive Sony on this one as in this modern day of age, nothing is unhackable and especially by Anonymous, sure some mistakes were made, but it was exactly these kind that made Sony and the PS3 the way it was improving before this whole mess. I am willing to forgive and the fact that somewhere my details are lurking about on the internet and checking my money twice as much as I used to.

Now that's out of the way, I feel I have to bring up the EU Welcome Back Pack.

THE PS3 GAMES

The two games to select for free are pretty good. But as most have said, we already have them.

1. LittleBigPlanet
I'm pretty sure that most of us own LBP and some of us, LBP2 (Which I ashamedly don't yet), but really? LBP? I mean no offense, but as great as this is for a gift for the consumers, all the fans have already bought it and been waiting for PSN to come back up in order to play it again!

2. Infamous
This one's pretty fair. Infamous 2 is coming out soon and not everyone played the original, to be honest, this is a beast of a game to get free. Only second down from Uncharted:DF which probably should of been one of the giveaways. But I already own this and completed in Good and Infamous. If you haven't played Infamous and hyped for Infamous 2, this is a great freebie and perfect timing too.

3. Wipeout HD/Fury
This is actually utterly brilliant again, for those that don't own it. Again, unlike ME.
Anyway, trust me, Wipeout HD is a complete blast, so if this actually does turn out to be the bundle with the Fury expansion pack too, that's pretty neat. Wipeout HD is by far the most crisp racing experience on PS3, plus it has that slick futuristic design, pumping soundtrack, splitscreen features, custom soundtracks and online modes. If you're one that doesn't own this game, that's a great one to jump onto.

4. Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty
I'm one of the rare people to of owned and played R&C:Q4B before the release of Crack in Time, and believe me, It's a pretty neat game. That is. If you DON'T OWN IT. It was my honest belief that this game should of been given away as it is the perfect prequel to Crack in Time. It's a direct continuation from Tools of Destruction and has Ratchet stuck on an island surrounded by odd villagers and pirates. No sign of Clank due to the evens of the last game, but Ratchet can fend on his own. Some very good game mechanics and some graphics that for a download title, even rival Tools of Destruction's graphics, it was originally a great bite sized adventure between both games, a must play for Ratchet fans. Again, if you don't ALREADY OWN it.

5. Dead Nation
This game never hit my radar and I never bought it, sorry, I said it. I have Burn Zombie Burn (which would of made an AWESOME giveaway) and I just felt like I didn't need more. The whole '4 survivors and zombies' concept is so generic now. Even though it's by the makers of the fab Superstardust HD. I just wasn't interested, as a freebie, I guess I can accept.

THE PSP GAMES

Not a bad selection actually, a little GoW:GoS wouldn't go amiss though.

1. LittleBigPlanet PSP
Now, personally, this hit the jackpot. Yes. I would love to own this for free and I will do, I played a friend's copy and it was pretty good. I'd love to have this on the go and I also know a lot of people didn't buy it due to not actually being a sequel, but having a different plotline with the same name...Nice One Sony!

2. ModNation PSP
I have no idea what Modnation Racers PSP plays like. I've played a brief demo of the PS3 version (which again would of made a nice giveaway). But I guess I can accept the PSP version with open arms.

3. Pursuit Force
This is like giving Resistance 1 to people. No offence, but come on should of at least given Daxter or Medievil Resurrection instead as these were far better launch titles or even the recent Jak which wasn't that bad, nor great anyway. Poor, very poor Sony.

4. Killzone Liberation*
I'm just not interested. Wasn't then, hasn't changed now, changing the genre around before the sequel, I don't know, it just didn't gel to me. I would of preferred the similarly changed genre game of Resistance Retribution instead which came out about the same time as Resistance 2.
Even if it does result in me having played all the Killzone games...yeah, just not bothered.

THE SERVICE FREEBIES

1. 30 days free PlayStation Plus membership for non PS Plus subscribers*
Good, but I'm not too keen on the idea of a month to like games I own to suddenly have them whipped away and forced to continue the drip fed service with payments, all I can say, the discounts better be good.

2. Existing PlayStation Plus subscribers will be given 60 days free subscription.
This is great for PS+ owners as they get this valuable time back.

3. For existing Music Unlimited subscribers, you will be given 30 days free subscription.
yep, not interested, but okay. This should of been upped to 3 months or something due to details having been hacked and stolen as this is the real issue here.

4. We are working on a Welcome Back offer in PlayStation Home and will share that when it is confirmed.
Originally an avid supporter of the concept of Playstation Home, but now not, I found myself deleting the program to save space, I might of missed out on 'T-Shirts' and dressing around like a weird stereotypical Britishman, but I can't honestly say this is a GOOD thing as this is like Sony beating a dead horse.

Well, that's my verdict. It's kind of 'yay', but kind of 'meh' and although I'm not one to complain and revolt, I wouldn't be surprised if others will because we practically already own all these free games. So. In that way of thinking, Sony still owes one.
Never the less, good start but maybe this shows Sony doesn't really know their fanbase after all, because they're practically trying to give away the games the fans have already snapped up on release. We'd better be getting some good PSN updates, future firmwares and have great protection of our data, otherwise, this is going to look even worse than it does already.

unicronic4728d ago

Good points, although the movies/music services are useless to those outside US/EU.

In addition most games are 2+ years old and do not reward early adopters.

mastiffchild4727d ago

Well, I've got ALL the PSP games and am limited to getting DN and Wipeout as the only PS3 ones I haven't already bought but we seem to forget that we HAVE to be the tiny, teeny minority here. Sure, 70 million is a bogus number of users but even though some of US may have multiple accounts and some PS3s have bitten the dust you will still find around 50million active accounts I'd guess and probably MORE users-we have two PS3's a two proper accounts in our house used by five people(the kids use one and me and the wife the other and even with my,and I'm rare for having them outside of N4G trust me, US and JP acct it doesn't add up to more than five,does it?).

My point is: the highest selling of the free games is KLBP with, what, less than 4million sales? Then threy go down through the others starting with iinFAMOUS at around 2million at a guess. Right, so the lowest selling game, even if EVERYONE who bought it also owned the others will probably be DN at around 150,000(guessing but bear with me)so that means it's only POSSIBLE for 150,000(or however many people bought the lowest selling game) to own EVERY single game on the list for PS3 and I'm thinking I'm EVEN more rare for owning EVERY PSP title on the list. Sony have done amazingly well with the offer and as there's only a few of us in real terms who have all the games the moaning is, to me . way out of proportion and I suspect a LOT of people just wanted better(in their eyes) games because these are quite old and people would have bought them by now if they were interested enough.It's people being greedy and nothing else. I accept there will be a good few of us here that have all the games but, again, accept you are a tiny minority and Sony cannot possibly please everyone and the credit idea is a non starter. Be thankful it's back up and they have offered us all free plus and the chance of some free games even if it means you make a few bucks by selling a hard copy of LBP or Infamous.

I ,also, think for Sony to be offering any of us free stuff beyond a bit of reparation to DCU/Plus subscribers is beyond generous when they lost so much in such an unfair way themselves.

Bare fact of the matter is I'm happy to accept people here(we are very keen gamers so it's the kind of place you'd expect to find the very rare individuals who DO own all the games(like myself with the PSP-but even then that's a fluke cos I don't have a massive number of PSP games))own the full set but as i estimate it can only be around 50,000 or so people and definitely less than 1/100 PSN users who own the full set I'm tempted to thin a lot of those whining elsewhere are trying it on and DIDN'T ever own the games. It's not possible that that many ever did.

And as it's a TINY minority and Sony don't owe most of us anything why the eff are we complaining?

trounbyfire4723d ago

most type i have seen on N4g ever

goflyakite4722d ago

People have to realize that we are chatting on a gaming website. We aren't the majority of the industry.

Most of my friends IRL don't even have one of these games let alone all of them.

news4geeks4728d ago (Edited 4728d ago )

"but maybe this shows Sony doesn't really know their fanbase after all, because they're practically trying to give away the games the fans have already snapped up on release."

This is exactly why they are doing it. They know their fanbase full well. Intelligent offerings from sony, I'd offer pretty much the same if I worked for them. Offer old games because sales are slow on them now anyway and offer a game that is shortly due a AAA sequel.

Cajun Chicken4727d ago

It is a tricky one, I admit, but I think the choice of 8 PS One Classics also would of been nice. Just you know, something good you'll buy rarely, also, the lack of Warhawk as a giveaway, missed marketing opportunity.

GrieverSoul4727d ago

Warhawk shoul of been a nice offer. But the increase of possible traffic on the games servers would amount costs for Sony to cover. Its better to provide single player experiences. Much cheaper.

Also, Cajun, Dead Nation is a great game! You will love it! Trust me.

As for me, nothing of interest. I have all the 5 games. :(

rob60214727d ago

I think giving out primarily online or online only games would have been a massive unknown on if the servers would be able to handle it - they cannot predict how many people will actually take advantage of the deal and which games they'll get. In that stance it's pretty clear why MAG and Warhawk weren't given as options.

AllyOmega4727d ago

So in the EU, Super Stardust HD gets replaced by Ratchet and Clank? Darn, I'm in the US, I just recently bought Super Stardust, and only one of the games on the list interests me (Infamous). If I could, Ratchet and Clank would be my 2nd choice. I guess I'll have to get LBP, but that game was never my cup o' tea.

HolyOrangeCows4727d ago

SCEA
Why u no offer Quest for Booty?

Seriously, I want Quest for Booty, not SSd HD.

coryok4727d ago

infamous has sold about 2.5 million copies, little big planet has sold something like 5 million (ps3 version). with 77 million people that leaves a lot of people who havnt bought these games (dont know about the rest, they didnt have retail releases and sony doesnt release sales statistics)

the people complaining that they have all these games have a reason to be angry, but theyre in the minority - theyre in the loud minority.

these are great games and everyone should get to play them, sonys offering a great line up.

if you want to compare, when microsofts xbox live went down for two weeks microsoft offereed their users one xboxlive game. if you already had it - too bad, that was for a paid service being down. sony is offering a selection of two games from five, and a bunch of other goodies, and thats for a free service going down.

sony is offering a fantastic amount of content for users to choose from. im sorry if you already have all the games, but sony owes you nothing else.

flyingmunky4727d ago

I agreed but wanted to expand on what you said further. Its 77 million accounts, not people. The total number of consoles is around 40 million.

At any rate anyone who has all these titles should be in the minority. The problem is that we are on a games website where the vocal minority sounds a lot larger than it really is.

Also like you said when xbox live went down for 2 weeks only a single downloadable title was made free. This offer from Sony blows that offer out of the water.

For those that say its to make up for our identities being stolen; where is the news on that front? You better believe the media would have jumped at a story about identity theft being much higher for people who own ps3s. The media always seems to jump at any chance to smear Sony, even if they have to make crap up.

coryok4727d ago

youre right, it is accounts, not people, thanks for the clarification!

btw, sony said a few weeks ago that they had sold 50 million ps3s

kane_13714727d ago

50 million PS3s, plus 60+ million PSP.
come on do the math.
not impossible to have more than 60mil accounts

No FanS Land4727d ago

I have like 3 accounts myself

goflyakite4722d ago

I didn't read this before posting but I 100% agree with flyingmunky.

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No FanS Land4727d ago

I don't remeber sony said 2 weeks ago their plan would include totally free games! I thought it would only be free PS+ content.

Anyway, I'll take infamous and Dead Nation as I don't own them. I'd have taken WipeOut HD/Fury but I already own the game without the expansion :/

As for the PSP games, I own KZ:L. Gonna take Modnation and LBP. I don't understand, was Pursuit force this good?

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Fallout 4's 'next gen' update is over 14 gigs, breaks modded saves, & doesn't change much at all

We were expecting problems with mod support, but there are a lot of other issues.

isarai10h ago

Wow what the actual hell 🤣🤣🤣

just_looken10h ago

This is why you get the GOG version on gog you can select the version of the game to download.

On pc fallout 4 fallout new vegas and skyrim are all broken on steam because they all got the same "next gen" update.

Skyrim dec 2023
https://www.pcgamer.com/sky...

Can not find new vegas but anyone that modded it knows the script extender there was also broken

Valkyrye8h ago

Not accidental, they want modders to stop modding their older games to force them to mod Shitfield.

just_looken6h ago

There doing the same on starfield with a mods store and blocking mods

There goal is like blizzard and what they did with fallout 76 you make mods they can sell and you become a slave.

On skyrim they have "trusted" mod devs now basically a badge that lets your mod on the store you get a crumb of the sale when someone buys it.

Inverno5h ago

lol to the disagrees, the last Skyrim update broke mods too. They've been trying to kill mods to monetize them in creation club for years, it's not a stretch that they purposely put out patches just to break free mods.

porkChop3h ago

The disagrees are from people who have common sense. They aren't trying to kill mods. Most mods for any game will break with a new update because they rely on files/code that have been changed. This isn't new. Even with Bethesda this would happen way before the creation club. Mod support is literally one of the things that got Bethesda to where they are, and they're one of the only devs that releases comprehensive mod tools for each of their games.

Chocoburger4h ago

Over 14 GBs and doesn't change much at all? What? Taking up that much drive space for a pathetic 'remastering' is shameful.

Par for Bethesda.

Aussiesummer3h ago

It's not a remaster, it's a next gen update.

badz1493h ago

LOL people are actually expecting massive improvements or something? From Bethesda?? the same people who released Skyrim multiple times and the all look like shit? THAT Bethesda? are people for real?

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

The ps5 version doesn't change a ton but from my small playtime it's enough to make me want to replay it just to have it running at 60.

A side note to this my PS4 version no longer boots after it's "update" so I guess that's what it feels like to own a Bethesda game on PC

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein9h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno5h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k44h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson3h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu4h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson3h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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Gears of War Voice Actor Hints At New Game Announcement Coming In June

A voice actor from The Coalition's third-person shooter series, Gears of War, has hinted at a new game announcement coming in June.

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Ra30303h ago

Hopefully Microsoft will go back to the original story line and get away from that woke nonsense from the last Gears game Gears of Woke! But were talking about Microsoft so all the betting money is on more of the same woke nonsense.

Sciurus_vulgaris2h ago

The Locust trilogy concluded with Gears of War 3. I don’t get how Gears 4 and 5 are “woke” .