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Microsoft wants Windows 8 to relaunch PC gaming

Microsoft will use Windows 8 to relaunch itself at the forefront of PC gaming, TechRadar understands, with the software giant ready to put its weight behind the platform once more.

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NewMonday4891d ago

With Xbox live and official 360 emulation maybe?

Cajun Chicken4891d ago

You WANT to PAY for something that's free?

I'm sticking with Steam buddy, at least they add and tweak things.

Kran4891d ago

Could have sworn Xbox Live does that too.

I mean, wasnt there an update that uploaded the whole dashboard?

Blaze9294891d ago

Xbox LIVE on Windows is free now buddy...

MAJ0R4891d ago (Edited 4891d ago )

yeah but steam is way better, just look at the deals they are having

and valve actually cares about pc gaming, not just money

Darkfocus4891d ago

while I agree steam is much better(I hate GFWL used to crash on me all the time) GFWL did have some really good deals a while ago they had really good games that were fairly new on sale for like a $1

KotC4891d ago

Steam and Live on PC are free to use.

Cajun Chicken use google for some facts.

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BattleAxe4891d ago

Steam is my #1 place to be on the PC, but I welcome a new Microsoft attitude towards PC gaming. I hope they inegrate all of their services and hopefully they'll finally get smart and release all of their top exclusive games on GFWL.

ComboBreaker4890d ago

Translation: Microsoft wants to get Xbox Live Premium onto the PC too, and force PC gamers to subscribe to Xbox Live Premium on the PC, just to play online games. All Windows 8 games will now require an Xbox Live Premium subscribtion.

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Cajun Chicken4891d ago

It won't be if you expect to play with the community on the OTHER XBL.

Elven64891d ago

Fact check dude, all of that is already free. I can play Shadowrun with gamers on PC and the Xbox 360 for free if I'm on a PC. If I play on 360, I'd have to pay for Live but I could still pay with everyone else.

Everything Xbox Live has to offer is free on the PC. I don't buy Xbox Live Gold that much anymore since most of the Xbox Live gaming I do can be done through a PC for free.

IRetrouk4891d ago

you cant play shadow run because the servers are shut down

BattleAxe4891d ago

I've got a GFWL account, and I have a couple of people on my friends list who are on Xbox Live. They can see all my PC achievements and we can message each other cross platform.

Elven64890d ago

IRetrouk: The servers aren't shut down, I was playing the game the other day.

KotC4890d ago

Shadow is up and running, I don't think they will ever shut them down because MLG gamers still play it.

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ATi_Elite4891d ago

Microsoft is crawling back to the PC with it's head down and tail between it's castrated legs.

Well sorry M$, PC gaming doesn't want you or need you. I only see M$ trying to migrate it's hoard of xbox cronies to the PC and flooding GFWL w/ a bunch of 360 console ports. That's not innovation.

Valve w/ Steam is doing for PC gamers what Sony is doing for PS3 gamers but only better in some aspects cause a month ago i got owned by a Valve developer in HL2 Death Match but any way M$ is all about money and has ZERO love for their community except to rape them every chance they can.

No way am I installing GFWL, or getting a xbox live account, or paying for some stupid xbox live type subscription on the PC when online gaming is FREE. only MORONS would do that. Besides Halo Gears Fable are OVERRATED anyway. (Halo 1 and 2 PC Fable 1 PC Gears 1 PC)

As a PC gamer I dam sure don't want to be bothered with any FN 360 owner online as the whole 360 community is a bunch of juvenile delinquents who game like a bunch of clowns and spew the most vile, vulgar, and racist remarks on xbox live that I have every heard.

Microsoft PLEASE stay on your xbox and stay the hell away from the PC, it's been so much better without you.

Capdastaro4891d ago

As he says this using his Windows Operating System...

ATi_Elite4891d ago

@ Capdastaro

I have a custom built PC and yes I have Windows 7 64 bit XP and Win 7 32bit. But my main OS is OSX 10.5 because I'm running a Hackintosh as well.

I never said anything bad about M$ OS as they are very good, I don't respect M$ for gaming but why am i explaining this to you when it's obvious your a 360 fanboy who will buy anything Microsoft tells you to buy without thinking. so go buy another 360 and a kinect and have fun reading NPD sales reports instead of playing games.

I'm sure when Microsoft starts charging people to play PC games online you'll be the first one signed up and bragging on N4G about how cool you are. Just remember you bought Black OPs $60, an xbox live subscription $50 now an extra $10 bucks more so now your paying Activision to play their games online as well as paying just to play xbox online.

Xbox the more you pay the less Exclusives you get.

kaveti66164891d ago

"why am i explaining this to you when it's obvious your a 360 fanboy who will buy anything Microsoft tells you to buy without thinking."

Slow your roll, dude.

You're so quick to point a finger and label people. You need to calm down.

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dragonelite4891d ago

Probably means it will launch with directX 12.

jakethesnake4891d ago

Yes - and it will have the same effect that Vista had I'm sure with DX10.

Microsoft seems to be stuck on a cycle of Bad OS/Good OS (ME - fail, XP - success, Vista - fail, Win7 - success). Personally, I'm prepared to avoid Windows 8 and wait for the fixed Windows 9.

dragonelite4890d ago

Vista did not fail driver support was just shitty at launch. And the reason why 7 launched so well because vista and 7 are build on the same frame so vista driver could be used under windows 7.

Atleast this is what i was told.

Rage_S904890d ago

what im getting from this is live is free on pc wow xbox people are getting robbed seriously thats f*ck up

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Vesemir4891d ago

I want PC gaming back to what it was before companies started getting a little too greedy.

GodofSackboy4891d ago

Maybe they wouldn't have left if PC games weren't getting pirated 20 times more than they were getting bought.

Vesemir4891d ago (Edited 4891d ago )

That's because lots of people on poor or half-developed countries owns a mid ranged PC while they don't own a newgen console.

More people owns a PC, hence the piracy rate is higher.
Nothing will change that.

And Yes, they are greed because they want every PC owner in the world to buy their stuff, and that's not necessarily the case, we all know that. Lots of people don't have the funds to support a gaming hobbie like we do. But they own a PC. The rest we all know.

Elven64891d ago

People pirate just as much in "developed nations", the difference is most the pirating in "developing nations" is bought through physical mediums while it's mostly digital everywhere else.

kaveti66164891d ago

I'd rather MS work with Valve to release games through STEAM.

Croaker4890d ago

I would like to see this too. Though I won't hold my breath for this to happen.

zagibu4890d ago

It WILL happen, because GFWL will continue to fail.

marioPSUC4891d ago

Sorry MS, dont think thats gonna work when theres things like Steam out that tons of PC gamers love. I dont think MS would be as kind and give out the amazing deals that Steam has

Kran4891d ago (Edited 4891d ago )

Not true. Microsoft have done some great deals on Games for Windows live. I got Backlight, as bad as it may be, for 80MSP.

Also, this article doesnt specify what KIND of PC gaming they do. Yes, they have Games for Windows Live, but they may be thinking on PC gaming as a whole, with steam and those crappy £2 games that nobody buys. Oh and MMORPG's.

I think what they mean is like the Alienware.

marioPSUC4891d ago

$2 games nobody buys on steam? They do great deals every day and people buy the things all the time.

Ok and so MS has some deals, but theres no way that they would have the types of deals Steam does.

NYC_Gamer4891d ago

steam always have great deals/bigger selection of titles

Bodster4891d ago

having Bad Company 2 at £6.79 the other day is a perfect example :)

<3 steam!

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 6h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos21h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb3320h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC11h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 12h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear2119h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 16h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 15h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC11h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon6158620h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k415h ago(Edited 15h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k415h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 15h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 5h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage22h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 15h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 14h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 6h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn197919h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage22h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 21h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin2d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 21h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 7h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 21h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 7h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney1d 2h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii2d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno2d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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