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Penello on Kinect: We don’t want “shovelware”

VG247 writes: Albert Penello, director of platform marketing for Xbox, has said Microsoft doesn’t want Kinect games to be “shovelware.”

dangert125080d ago

did he not attend E3 ? but hey one mans rubish is a next mans gold or somthing like that its a good attitude to have anyway only the best

GWAVE5080d ago

It doesn't matter what he wants. Xbox brand execs have been dropping like flies, so if Microsoft doesn't agree with what you want, they'll just bring in someone new.

But Kinect's performance at E3 definitely showed Microsoft's focus, from what they said to the games they demoed. It's casual. Sorry, Natal supporters, but thems the breaks.

Anarki5080d ago

Yeah they do, since when did Microsoft care about their consumer? They'd jump at the chance of anything that'll make them some cash.

AAACE55080d ago (Edited 5080d ago )

This won't end well!

@dangert12... It seems like everytime I see you on a 360 post, you are making a negative comment! Be careful man... your fanboy is starting to show... zip that up!

@Chaos69 1.2... The strange thing is, they bash everything for the 360 and the majority of the stuff they bash ends up selling well! They bashed Halo, Gears, and several other things 360 related, and the majority of it sold pretty well. I don't believe them. I think they work for MS and are trying reverse psychology on us! lol!

HolyOrangeCows5080d ago (Edited 5080d ago )

We saw about 3 different dance games preped for launch and about 4 fitness games preped for launch.

The shovelware has already begun.

Chaos695080d ago

You PS3 fanboys seem to care more about Kinect than X360 owners.

Microsoft Xbox 3605080d ago

You 360 fanboys seem to avoid Kinect threads/articles after the fail seen at E3. What happened pre-E3? You guys were touting Natal as some kind of revolutionary step in gaming. You can't expect PS3 fanboys to forget about that hilarious claim so quickly.

maddhatter1235080d ago

run your mouth get owned and then play the victim that is all these 360 clowns do they're a joke.

beans5080d ago

How are we playing the victim and getting owned when you want to be gamers are still stuck in 3rd place trying to claim victory lol. Those natal people are still around but now instead of talking trash like you guys will sit here and watch it destroy PS3 and gain market share on Wii. You can hate all day on Kinect but the fact remains there are still many unanswered questions and plenty of time to show something for it's core. Funny how you guys talk so much crap and then when proven wrong pretend you never said anything. The only people getting owned here are PS3 fanboys who think Japan=the world. This holiday prepare for a wake up call as all eyes are turned towards 360. :(

tinybigman5080d ago

thats what you already have on your system with the crap you showed at E3.
expect more people thats all i have to say.

LetsTorque5080d ago

Now here's the difference between Sony and Microsoft... when Sony says they dont want shovelware on Move, they not only mean it, they prove it! But when Microsoft says they dont want shovelware on Natal, they not only contradict themselves, they lose credibility!
Another thing Microsoft says are the words "Exclusive", now this word has been flung around by MS constantly! They said exclusive content (GTA) which is not even exclusive because it is on Sony's system; they say exclusive Netflix... which is on now on Sony's system, im not going to waste my time by listing all things MS, because its just not worth it, but I've learnt over the past years, MS is willing to con consumers into buying there system.
BTW I'm not saying Sony has not said anything that they haven't kept to, but what I can say, is that Sony has more credibility in my eyes than Microsoft ever had.

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Omega45080d ago

It will be a lot harder for shovelware to made for Kinect considering every game will have to be made differently to use Kinect, so most if not all the games will be unique.

Plus MS doesn't have to worry about ports either unlike Sony, and all the good Wii games come from Nintendo mostly, so all Move will get is the third party shovelware.

Pedobear Rocks5080d ago

I just showed you (above) Deca Sports ie 3rd party Wii shovelware is one of the first games coming to Kinect.

TotalPS3Fanboy5080d ago (Edited 5080d ago )

have exercised his right to ignore and deny reality.

mrv3215080d ago

Shovelware on a 360... this isn't new, indie games and marketplace is full of it.

You do realise Move is not a Wii Controller right? And infact uses a camera... like Kinect.

What Kinect will get is a lot of shovelware eyetoy games.

NYC_Gamer5080d ago

kinect launch software=shovelware

rekof5080d ago (Edited 5080d ago )

The problem is ,.. That is all Kinect is capable of doing ,..
except that fitness apps,.. ( that is great for exercising programs ,.. if it works )

So the statement is illogical in its structure,..
Or they don't want software for it,..

sad

Michael-Jackson5080d ago (Edited 5080d ago )

"Shovelware" is a game targeted for Casuals ONLY with generic characters, average graphics, low budget, shallow gameplay and no storyline. That's all Kinect has at the moment!!! u understand???

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tinybigman5080d ago (Edited 5080d ago )

hey O you must've missed the part of the presser or the rest of E3 where it was said most hardcore games will also support move like say Socom4, RE5, KZ3, HR, LBP2 huh?

wake up from your dream world and join us here in the land of the real world please.

n4gno5080d ago

He's not the only one, but him can read and comment all the news (with biased mind, but it's hard to cure 4 years of brainwashing medias), some others xbox fans in denial prefer to ignore facts (sells ps3>xbox, better exclusives on ps3, move is the best motion controler for now, people are interested by 3D, etc)

Qui-Gon Jim5080d ago (Edited 5080d ago )

"You can't reason somebody out of something they haven't been reasoned into."
(unfortunately, I don't know who said it)

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Microsoft to Add Copilot AI to Video Games

Microsoft recently revealed its plans to incorporate Copilot directly into video games, with Minecraft being the first showcased example.

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Fishy Fingers4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

F*** AI

"Hey Copilot, what's a good meme to prove I dislike AI".... https://giphy.com/clips/sou...

Einhander19724d ago

Two trillion dollar company that just can't wait to put as many people possible out of work as fast as possible.

It feels like every single thing they do is making gaming worse and destroying the industry.

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darthv723d ago

....you know it takes people to program the AI.... right? It isnt like it is sentient. We haven't reach skynet level of situation or anywhere close to the matrix just yet.

That's next Thursday.

Einhander19723d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It takes a people to program the AI then that AI is used for who knows how many games eliminating countless jobs which only grows as AI is used for more and more game creation functions.

What you're saying is so ridiculously short sighted and truly larking any kind of understanding and foresight.

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CaptainFaisal3d ago

Why all the hate? Im actually excited about this! Always wanted this kind of immersion, and an AI companion with me all the time helping me out knowing the status of my skills/inventory/progress and giving me tips on the best approach or how to craft something specific is game changing for the industry.

Hate all you want about AI, but this is just the start and I can see the potential already. You wont be complaining in the next 5-10 years about this, but rather complain if a game hasn’t implemented it.

MrDead3d ago

Yes we can't wait for the work of others to be used without the need to pay them so that MS can profit even more from the people they fire.

I_am_Batman3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

There is no chance I'd ever use something like this, especially if it's not part of the core game design, but a layer on top of it. It's way too much handholding. Many games already feel like busy work, because they don't let the player figure things out on their own. Having a real-time interactive guide defeats the purpose of playing the game in the first place in my opinion.

If this were to become the standard like you predict, we'll see more and more video games get away with bad design, because people will just be used to ask for help from the AI companion anyway.

Number1TailzFan3d ago

Well Nintendo don't need this with some of their games these days, with invincible characters, items, easy bosses etc.. they do the hand holding built in

helicoptergirl3d ago

Takes "hand holding" in games to a whole new level.

BlackDoomAx2d ago

Because human nature xD Almost every new technology had these kind of comments.

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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Psychonaut857d ago

They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.

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Microsoft's quest for short-term $$$ is doing long-term damage to Windows, Surface, Xbox, and beyond

Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's plans to increase every department's margins.

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Brazz9d ago

"The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally, and I know there's debate and unease at Microsoft about whether or not this is a good idea. More upcoming Microsoft-owned games slated for PlayStation are already being developed. At least for now, they're potentially obvious games you'd most likely expect. And yes, while it's true Microsoft is a prolific publisher on PlayStation already, it has typically revolved around specific franchises like Minecraft. From what I've heard, Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's mandate to increase every department's margins. "

Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware.

Xeofate9d ago

"Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware."

It's for the best.

Quit stringing along xbox fans and screwing over PlayStation owners.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

Take good care of those Xboxes if you have 'em ...

outsider16249d ago

An Xbox game on a Playstation. Never in my years of gaming did i ever thought this was gonna happen.

jznrpg9d ago

It is dying anyway so doesn’t make much of a difference

VersusDMC9d ago

No way can they get rid of the hardware as probably 90% of game pass subscribers are hardware users.

Highly doubtful those users will move to PC or Cloud to subscribe there and the competition (Sony and Nin) will never have gamepass on their system.

If they want to keep the current subscribers, they need to keep releasing new hardware.

PSPSA8d ago

I'm not convinced, why then announce that they're actually working on the next-generation Xbox with “the largest technical leap”, and also looking into handhelds now?

Rols8d ago

Not like MS don’t drop things a hot potato if it is not performing. Look at MS history to see products or platforms discontinued. Xbox is not a charity for MS, it needs to make money and the ABK was the last roll of the dice for Xbox.

purple1018d ago

Xbox hardware team members have been incorporated into surface team

This perhaps shows they are not expecting big things from Xbox as a separate entity

Abear218d ago

Seems like they are planning to win next gen. All the acquisitions were this generation and nobody except Xbox fans expect games from the acquisitions any time soon.

I’m sure Microsoft can afford to lose money on the short term, pretty sure they do risk assessment when acquiring many companies and spending billions, they’ll be fine lol.

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gold_drake9d ago

i think it will kill off the xbox brand. windows will be fine.

but there is and would be a chance that xbox might be killed off in the future. if they fail to make the money they put in. imo.

S2Killinit9d ago

They wont kill it, but they will go fully PC while keeping xbox as a brand, and go multiplatform for the most part. They will also work tirelessly to diminish console gaming’s importance.

PRIMORDUS9d ago

It would be best if Xbox goes the way of Sega, just make and publish games. I know I myself will not support them at all with buying games from them, you all can. 🙃

ChasterMies9d ago

The Xbox brand will live for the games. I don’t expect Microsoft to entirely drop out of gaming hardware. They make Surface tablets and laptops. They’ll make Xbox branded hardware for those that want it.

shadowT9d ago

"Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation"

Forza and Starfield next?

Skuletor9d ago

Starfield would be no surprise and there's the rumor that it will come to Playstation after the Shattered Space DLC, Forza (along with Halo and Gears of War) I find less likely but I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually end up on PlayStation too, especially if Xbox give up on hardware and go the Sega route.

shinoff21839d ago

Not to worried about forza. I'd rather see others like what inxile and obsidian are working on. Starfield sounds like it needs more time in the oven so let it cook first imo. If starfield and it's a small if does release on ps it'll be in the fall around the time for dlc or right at the dlc and come packaged with it.

-Foxtrot9d ago

In the words of Phil Spencer when he was talking about Nintendo last year

“It's just taking a long time for Microsoft to see that their future exists off of their own hardware"

S2Killinit9d ago

Yup. MS are a cancer to console gaming.

Aloymetal9d ago

100%!!
I wonder what happened to that dude that was always here posting those court articles with cartoons about MS spending all those billions in studios. He suddenly disappeared, I guess he doesn't like bad news when the green brand is in trouble. No new articles from him as of late...

PRIMORDUS9d ago

Yup, and it's only going to keep spreading.

Outside_ofthe_Box9d ago

Phil Spencer's words always comes back to bite him lol

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