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11mins Of New Natal Footage

Ironstar: "Project Natal was displayed during the D8 conference. Microsoft's motion sensing camera will certainly be the talk of E3, as it will compete with Sony's perspective of motion gaming, PlayStation Move."

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Hallmark Moment5093d ago ShowReplies(8)
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cool cole5093d ago

I find it funny how the Xbox girl keeps going on about the Xbox and its games and whatever else, and the other lady is like "K we don't care about that".

krisq5093d ago (Edited 5093d ago )

...doing presentation about Natal? Now I'm worried as a gamer :/.

ThanatosDMC5092d ago (Edited 5092d ago )

It's gonna be flooded with wii-like games and probably PS Move too... unless there's some sort of quality control.

GrooveChampion5092d ago

Are you worried because women shouldn't be around videogames? :P
Or are you worried because of how Microsoft is positioning Natal?

mikeslemonade5092d ago

The woman should slim down a bit. She would be diggity!

CoxMulder5092d ago

Dang!! That must've been the most boring video on N4G ever..

I demand 11 minutes of my life back!!

capital1player5092d ago

come on...i dont wanna play no FU(k!ng soccer in a video game, i can go outside and do that! what i wanna play is some nice shooters like call of duty or battlefield..not some retarded childish games!!!

smoothdude5092d ago

Wow, 9 minutes of talking and less than 2 minutes of Natal. I can't believe how boring this is.

zeeshan5092d ago

Did anyone else notice how the M$ rep asked the dude to move away? How she had absolutely NO answer to a simple question (what if everybody started to scream) and how BADLY it kept lagging? I mean OH MY GOD! How old is this footage? If it's a recent one then I can safely say that M$ has a product that has FAIL written all over it!

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ThatCanadianGuy5093d ago

WTF kind of video player is that? Could barely see anything.
Anyways, pretty lame footage.The kid wasn't into it at all and the women just looked awkward..

Narutone665093d ago

the Jedi mind control are praising it to high heavens.

RXL5093d ago

i have absolutely no interest in this or Playstation's Move...

nothing eithier of them have shown has made me sit up and take notice..

you come out with motion controls/tracking and you're churning shit out worse than the Wii?..

ill eat my words if they start showing some decent to good games but until then..this shit still looks blah

RememberThe3575093d ago

We still haven't seen much of Natal lately but I don't see how this could be fun at all. I'm hoping that MS changes my mind at E3.

dtalon35093d ago

yes if "NEW" is taking someone else's Idea and just making it more precise is your idea of "NEW" then yeah there will be a lot more precise waggle gaming going on.

Desecron5093d ago (Edited 5093d ago )

New? There was this console called the Wii, launched in 2006, sold 70+ million units. It was pretty big, I'm surprised you missed it.

Blackdeath_6635093d ago

move only showed us sccom4 which might be interesting, i like how playstation dont promise you anything so u dont get disapointed whereas natal they promised to get rid of controllers well... they have a big task on their hands cus i aint lettin go of my controller.

headwing455093d ago

Motion controls have a lot more potential on the PS3 then it did on the Wii. It can take advantage of all the shooters and other games (like LBP2) that the Wii wouldn't be able to do. I'm looking forward to playing MW2 and Socom 4 with the move. However, there isn't much games I'd want to use the Wiimote on the Wii. Not to mention that Sony has done a great jobs proving how accurate it is.

Ju5093d ago (Edited 5093d ago )

Move showed us (and Guerilla) Socom4. Move showed us Move Party (Archery, Table Tennis, and a couple of other games). Move showed us boxing, Lights Out. Move showed us to play with a pet, EyePet. Move showed some tech demos (that "Minority Report" video).

And Natal showed us ... ta ta ... kicking some balls.

We will see, what that means, literally, at E3. ...

And anybody who says there is no lag is blind. That arm moved 500-1000ms later in that video when that lady moved her arm to calibrate the thing. In a video with normal speed, not slowed down. ... wow.

CJJA5092d ago

move isnt a wii controller idiots.more,way more precise, better looking titles. just because it looks like it doesnt mean it is. theres only so many ways u can design a controller. u could say the xbox an ps3 controller look the same. cause the overall shape is the same. does tht mean there copying? NO.

Mista T5092d ago

if Nintendo does it first, Sony can do it better, member the analog stick? will Sony did it better

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RedDevils5093d ago

I probably have more fun playing football then waving my arms like an idiot :P

Anon19745093d ago

These types of webcam games have been around for a decade, and they're amusing for all of 30 seconds. Who on earth is going to buy this? If they want their kids active in front of the screen, get a Wii. It's cheaper and it has Mario. As for the rest of the gaming world, the average gamer age is well into his 30's. You really think 20 to 30 something gamers are suddenly going to start shelling out to bounce around their living rooms, waving at their tv screen.

I just don't see how this could possibly succeed.

Biggest5093d ago

If they want their kids active they won't buy them video games to provide the activity. Motion control gaming is a way for non-gamers to get into games. It doesn't get you into shape. It doesn't increase your cardiovascular capacity. You'd have more success playing "Duck, Duck, Goose."

feelintheflow5093d ago

Care to wager on whether or not people buy this thing? I am 37 and will be buying it, I have a wii, and love party games for it. I will also get move because it looks to add a lot to hardcore games. There is a place in gaming for this.

Anon19745092d ago

Analysts have been saying that Natal would add 1 billion to Microsoft's revenue. One billion! That means they're expecting 7 million of these things to just fly off the shelf.

I have no doubt that some people who like party games will pick this up, and some people who realize it's value compared to buying a Wii with multiple controllers, but I just don't see this happening.

Not to knock Natal. It's not a bad idea, but it's not being released in a vacuum. It still has the Wii to go up against and it still has Move to go up against.

The 360's a console for hardcore gamers who primarily buy it for shooters. For Natal to be successful they'll have to rope in the casuals, which means they'll have to lure them away from the Wii. When Microsoft dropped the price of the 360 below that of the Wii it caused a brief surge in sales for the 360 but didn't make a dent in Wii sales. I think the 360 is 10 times the gaming console that the Wii is, so doesn't it say something when it can't even compete head 2 head with the Wii when it's cheaper? Is slapping a camera on it for another $150 really going to be the game changer?

I just don't see it.

Sheikh Yerbouti5092d ago (Edited 5092d ago )

Wii's market share is rock solid, while the 360's is falling. People are really underestimating the power of the reigning champ.

I hope for the success of both the Move and Natal, but I don't see either dethroning the $200 Wii. Not to mention that it already has hundred of casual games cheaper than current 360 games. Now if the $149 previously mentioned includes the cost of an Arcade, it's on!

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 2h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos17h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb3316h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC7h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 8h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies20h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear2114h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 12h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 11h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC6h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon6158615h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k411h ago(Edited 11h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k411h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 11h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 1h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage18h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 10h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 10h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 2h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn197915h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage18h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 17h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin1d 22h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 17h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 3h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 17h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 3h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney22h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii1d 22h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d 21h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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