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Xbox360 in the #1spot this holiday season and beyond While Peter Moore gets smashed on the HipHopGamerShow 9/21/08

* 360 destroying the competition
* Naruto: Rise To Ninja Review
* Peter Moore Gets Smashed
* Life With Playstation Finally Arrives but was it worth the wait?
* Will Nintendo wii end up in last place this holiday season?
* Much Much More Enjoy The Show

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Jamie Foxx5696d ago (Edited 5696d ago )

but hiphopgamer is certainly just a gamers gamer and tells it as he sees it so kudos,360 is going for the jugular this holiday season,we as the consumer are certainly reaping the awards from this price cut (cheap way to play gears) and because sony must now lower their price microsoft have forced this upon sony,to all the fanboys this is why competition is good

Genesis55696d ago (Edited 5696d ago )

3 years into it's life and $199 for a next gen console with no dedicated hard drive and a last gen disc format.(The Wii seems to appeal to alot of non traditional gamers,360 does not) I just can't see the 360 selling Wii like numbers at this stage.

I figure the 360 for 5 million maybe 10 million(life time) bigger install base than the original Xbox. I will have to wait for the numbers obviously. But if the 360 crushes the competition the holiday season I will say I was wrong and everyone that disagrees with me was right.

But I don't think that is going to happen.

tordavis5696d ago

"3 years into it's life and $199 for a next gen console with no dedicated hard drive and a last gen disc format. I just can't see this thing selling Wii like numbers at this stage."

I TOTALLY AGREE! At least you get a hard drive, HDMI/Component and DVD playback with the Wii. And it's cheaper!

InMyOpinion5696d ago (Edited 5696d ago )

Some would say he's not just biased, but 'PS3-curious'.

Yo yo tordavis! Have you considered renaming the bitbag to the flamebag, since everything you produce are flame articles with no substance?

theKiller5696d ago (Edited 5696d ago )

if $350 didnt do anything for 360 in this year what will $300 do??

about the arcade well... people buy the wii not only because its cheaper but mostly about its motion sensing controller, i dont know why people want to forget about that fact!!

the arcade will not steal a single casual customer from wii!!
and the premium and elite maybe they have a little bit better chance on competing with ps3!

dont forget ps3 have blue ray, free online,wifi, HOME, and multiple AAA mega hits this fall and finally big blue ray movies like the dark night etc all that for just 100 bugs extra!!

Jamie Foxx5696d ago (Edited 5696d ago )

because yes we as gamers know the ps3 has alot of advantages technology wise over the 360 but IGNORANCE IS BLISS how else can a console using ps2 technology in dvd9 and have a33% hardware failure rate not be dead and buried.....,theres comments further down from steve saying he may pick up another 360 as back up? rrod seems acceptable now(crazy huh),rrod & ps3s advantages are not highlighted enough to the masses & parents are looking for a cheap way to enter the 'next-gen'

callahan095696d ago

I like the hiphopgamer, I think he's generally pretty well informed and comes to logical assumptions about things...

That said, and I should also say I haven't yet listened to this episode, I just read the synopsis right here... but all that said, I really don't know why he would think Wii would come in last place this holiday. It will probably come in first place again. Remember, the holiday season is when parents buy stuff for children. That means Wii, as far as I'd venture to guess. Sure, there are teenagers who will get 360's and PS3's, and adults who will ask their girlfriends or wives for a 360 or PS3... but I think that the Wii will continue to be a complete absence from store shelves this holiday, selling through all stock and being the biggest seller yet again.

Also, what is it with these people lately saying 360 is destroying the competition? Last I checked, it has been outsold by the PS3 on a worldwide level every single month this year, and it's been outsold by the PS3 in the USA for the majority of months this year. It only had a small resurgence last month when it sold barely 10,000 units more than the PS3 did in America, and when you're talking hundreds of thousands of units, that is a very small margin of victory. When compared to the Wii, the two systems are in a virtual tie. So I don't see how anyone can claim the 360 is dominating, when it isn't even dominating the PS3 much less the fact that it's still taking a gigantic beating by the Wii.

leila015695d ago (Edited 5695d ago )

With €400 you can get an Elite [€250], with a headset, HDMI cable, 120gb HD, Fable/Gears [€60], Gold membership account [€30] and you'll still have €60 remaining.
The PS3 [€400] + a game [€60] + headset [€?)

The PS3 is just too damn expensive. I wonder how this thing keeps selling.

CrazzyMan5695d ago (Edited 5695d ago )

leila01, I agree, PS3 is kinda expensive here in Europe, compared to x360.
BUT..
Price - High Quality console + blu-ray player = media center -> a Family Thing. :)
And 250 for elite? SO far it was 300 and 240 for 60Gb model.

Anyway, there are some positive points about PS3:
1) reliable
2) quiet
3) free online, home
4) build in wi-fi
5) without pain rechargeable controllers
6) blu-ray movies
7) freely changeable hdd
8) disc scratching free system
9) habitual controller for ps2 crowd

Immaculate5695d ago

Depends on how you define high quality game console. The 360 is the highest quality gaming experience period. The most high quality titles+largest game library+best online service= highest quality gaming experience

The price, the amount of media, and award winning controller design are just a bonus.

CrazzyMan5695d ago (Edited 5695d ago )

"The 360 is the highest quality gaming experience period. The most high quality titles+largest game library+best online service= highest quality gaming experience " - That`s WHY x360 was OUSTOLD by PS3 for almost whole year in all regions?

That make sense.)) Or maybe just consumers DON`T agree with your personal opinion since they are buying more PS3s, then x360s. It`s all about games, isn`t it? :)
It`s a consumer, who DECIDES.

Immaculate5695d ago (Edited 5695d ago )

Crazzyman, you had better enjoy those short lived sales comments while you still can.

SCThor, what's it like sitting in a PC chair playing games on a $800-$1500 dollar PC, knowing that you could have been laying on a couch or bed playing the exact same games for $200? You're kind of weird.

SCThor5694d ago (Edited 5694d ago )

My ($500,P4 2.4GHZ,2GB RAM,GEFORCE 8600GT)cpu is hooked to my entertainment room's LCD 42", I'm using a Xbox360 controller that connects to the cpu using a wireless receiver and I'm laying on my couch as I write...

(anyone...feel free to type owned,pwned,toasty or whatever you like below this post) :)

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DavidMacDougall5696d ago

Probably but how many out of the thousands sold will work? That is the big question

Shadow Man5696d ago

RROD AND DVD9 Ps3s life support.

DavidMacDougall5696d ago (Edited 5696d ago )

"Shadow Man keeps dipping his toe in the fanboy pool but it never works out for him so he keeps switching sides like his own sexuality" - DMD

I cant tell about you anymore are you a bot or a droid ?

@AlterEgo -Nice list bubbles for u

AlterEgo5696d ago (Edited 5696d ago )

You mean along with:

Killzone 2
Resistance 2
God of War 3
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
SOCOM: Confrontation
LittleBigPlanet
White Knight Chronicles
Disgaea 3
inFAMOUS
The Agency
Free Online Multiplayer
Home
Blu-ray
everything multi-platform
and everything else in 2009 that's as of yet unannounced?

Sir_Ken_Kutaragi5695d ago (Edited 5695d ago )

* The xBox 360 is CR*P

End of SirKenKutaragiShow 9/21/08
Tune in Next week!!! ;-D

marionz5695d ago

actually most will work, i have a new console and the new hardware is much quieter and cooler then my launch pro console, RRoD is pretty much a thing of the past to most 360 owners so its time to just move on.

i actually hope my launch pro console dies before the warranty is up so i can get the new components put in, but yes the new consoles are a huge improvement in both noise and heat, new one doesnt get any warmer then the ps3.

KiddyBrownTurd5695d ago

ROFLMAO

out of all those games, only God of War 3 has the potential to be AAA. and that's if it doesn't suck now that Jaffe AND Balrog are off the team.

poooooooooooor droids

chewy3175695d ago

yea since when can the 360 fight with the ps3 when its still barely winning the ps2.

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NewSchoolGamer5696d ago

needs to pray that the xbox360 outsells the PS3 every single month as of the date the price cut is in effect.

If not, Sony can go for the kill.

KingDizzi5696d ago

No praying will help MS, the only area where the price cut can have a continuous effect on consoles ales is NA. In Japan and the EU I can see the increase in sales due to a price drop for a month max but thats it.

If anything I guarantee that the PS3 will outsell the 360 in EU and Japan for the rest of the year, you should see the huge FIFA 09 PS3 advert and also WKC releasing in December 25th.

egm_hiphopgamer5696d ago

if for some reason 360 can't extend the lead over ps3 at a 199 price tag then MS may be in trouble as far as the console wars go because ps3 will eventually become a 199 price and that will be a big blow to MS but i doubt you'll see a 199 price tag on PS3 in 2009 so MS still has tons of breathing room even leading up to there next system

leila015695d ago (Edited 5695d ago )

As far as they keep making games for my 360 I'm fine. It doesn't really matters to me if it outsells the PS3 or not.

Glad to see you've dropped you fanboy status HipHop, you're now becoming a real gaming journalist. I'm looking forward to your next show.

The Dark Knight5695d ago

who cares if xbox 360 we be number 1 this season, why do we need to worry? we got Ps3's lol i dont see how being number 1 is so bad when is pretty much has nothing to do with us. I have Both consoles, but for people who dont, you dont need to get angry cause its just business

If anything Good on Microsft

uxo225695d ago

Nice show! Very Entertaining.

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KingDizzi5696d ago

Everyone calls this guy bias but he he just truthful, fanboys can bash him all they want but he makes educated suggestions. Of course the 360 will destroy PS3 sales IN NA, I just hope anyone with any sort of intelligence can accept that.

thewhoopimen5696d ago

Not that I disagree with the 360 price drop and software lineup as a very strong buy incentive, but what will the 360 have this holiday season that will appeal to the mass consumer? I think gow2 and fable 2 are great games but... they are niche. I still think the wii will squeak past the 360 this holiday season.

egm_hiphopgamer5696d ago

I understand your theory but people stand in line for gears of war, what nintendo has that people will line up for besides smash bros which is already out you see what i mean the hype alone is gonna make it a mass market appeal, keep in mind sometimes people buy stuff just to say they have it and gears is a game like that because of it's popularity

The Lazy One5696d ago

will work in favor of the 360.

By far the strongest lineup this year is in the 3rd party non-exclusive games. When people go to the store and see these amazing games (Rage, PoP, End War, lotsa EA sports games, etc.), which play the same on a $199 console as a $399 console, it's hard to argue with.

Then it still has a strong exclusive lineup, and a lot of new features in the update for the casual gamer (XNA community games, growing XBLA library, Xbox Primetime, Avatars, etc.).

To say it still won't appeal at this price point with the features coming is ignorance.

Summary: 360 is getting plenty of casual and hardcore content, and 3rd party multi platform titles work in favor of the cheapest system.

thewhoopimen5696d ago

good point Hiphop but I still think you and a lot of analysts miss the key word "casual gamer" or lets make it even more mainstream term, "casual consumer." The MASS casual consumer has NO IDEA what is new or not in terms of game release dates, platform exclusive, etc. They look at what everyone else has, whats fun for family, and what people talk about. Sure Gears is going to be a big topic, but moms and dads are definitely going to shy away from this controversial title. No one knows about fable. Besides Gears, there is nothing family friendly per se except viva pinata and part 2.

Wii has the numbers, Wii has the cool controller, Wii has more family friendly games. Wii games will be cheaper b/c of the older age of the titles. Wii is similarly priced, will will win like "tickle me elmos" win.

edhe5695d ago

The cheap-as 360 doesn't just play exclusive games you know. Any multiplatform system seller will sell on the 360, due to the price differential.

I'd imagine force unleashed bundles on the 360 arcade would've sold more than on the ps3.

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Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX

This could be fun as they make great tables. Go big or go extinct. Prime your senses for a neural handshake and step into the cockpit of a Jaeger. It is on you to cancel the apocalypse when Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX on May 16.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7216h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle3h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio50m ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga3h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21832h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1016h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos5h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac4h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1014h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic2h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein15h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno11h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k410h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson9h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu10h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson9h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -