Killzone 3: Are The 7/10 Scores Right?

NowGamer: Since day one Killzone has been put on a pedestal as Sony’s ‘must-have’ first-person shooter. Seeing Halo essentially turn the Xbox’s fortunes around and the always-popular Half-Life continuing to impress gamers worldwide (hell, even Nintendo had GoldenEye), the Japanese giant has always felt compelled to produce its own juggernaut to match these industry giants. From the start, though, it was on shaky ground...

[DA_SHREDDER]

i dont know about the scores, but one thing forsure is they didn't fix the laggy controls. This game is gonna sell just like the last one cause the crontrols are crap. I hate wrestling with em. Fuck weightiness in controls. If I wanna feel weight ill play with real gun. This is supposed to be a sci fi shooter. Even simulation shooters dont have that much lag.

[Optical_Matrix]

It definitely feels better and more responsive to play this. I dunno about crappy, but I put a fair few hours into Killzone 2 and got used to it, so I have no problem adjusting to this which adds more response and slightly more speed.

[kancerkid]

Some people think the game deserves a 7/10. If you read their review and agree with them, then it is a 7 game for you.

Likewise, some people think is is a 10/10 game, nothing wrong with that either.

Neither score is 'right' for everyone.

[Inside_out]

Plan on downloading the beta today to see for myself how the game looks and plays. It's the multi-player which is only half the story but should be a some what fair representation of the games.

The graphics have never been the issue in KZ. The game play and bad controls have been the biggest complaint. A close second has been the corridor, murky art direction that wears you down because it never changes. Luckily, the team at Guerrilla have really worked hard to change these things.

For me...7/10 says rental. It means it's a good game with some issues that can't be ignored. Can't wait to try the beta...it will be definitive for me.

[Rhythmattic]

Hey Cez,

at least GG have the guts and sense to have a open beta...

And with that, I'm loving it... And with that, you wont....

1st day purchase for me.

[Headquarters11]

GT5 got 8.0 scores or lower and that game is a masterpiece. Don't let reviews control your life people LOL

[Army_of_Darkness]

I don't think you even played KZ3 yet after making a dumb remark like that!?
I tried the kz3 beta last night with the move controller and OMG! its F#@KiIN sick!! very responsive and precise! Now I definitely gotta get a Navagation controller for this game.

[Rhythmattic]

Oh dear, Whoever disagreed, (most likely a multi-account user) I'm guessing you'll miss out on this one.

Good for you.

[MonkeyBoy92]

Listen I'm not trying bash other shooters out their but the most popular FPS out there have used the same mechanics for the past number of years and none of these reviewers have a problem with it, in fact they praise that they stay the same without adding anything new.

I'll admit I prefer Killzone overall to other FPS because it is a different solid shooter, and for that reason I obviously have bias towards it. So that could be why it frustrates me so much that some reviewers have double standards. IGN and the others' scores of 8.5 are good scores and I actually like that reviewers are being more strict with reviews as long as they do it for every game and not have double standards such as the author of this article.

Anyway different people have different opinions, thats the beauty of the world and I respect that. Hope everyone who buy's this game enjoys it =)

[DK_Kithuni_71]

@Headquarters11

Acording to Metacrictic.com Gran Turismo 5 is a 84/100. In my opinion it is an easy 95/100. The menu system is wierd and the loading takes forever but all is forgiven. As you say; it's a masterpiece.

Is Killzone 3 a 70/100, a 85/100, a 100/100. I don't know. All I know is that I'm getting the game.

[Kleptic]

ok...so this guy writes up an article that says killzone 3 is arguably still stuck in the same 'foundation' as 2004...introducing nothing new to the shooter genre; implying a generic feel to the overall franchise...

this is the grey area of the genre that many of us simply can't understand...So 3D, a first person cover mechanic (introduced in 2008, not 2004, of which no other shooter has)but now has vaulting and other additions, motion control support fully implemented, and absolutely state of the art visuals and tech...are 'not' innovative...add on top of that a fully visceral multiplayer mode that twists class based gampelay in ways no other shooters have thus far (including killzone 2, the entire system has changed)...and i'm lost...

So Black Ops had an entirely ridiculous M. Bay like single player campaign...of similar length to killzone 3...and a similar multiplayer system as the past 3 years of CoD's...and thats ok...

Halo Reach stuck to a formula that was introduced more or less since Halo 3, but arguably the same since 2004's halo 2 other than the much needed technical bump and forge...and that too is ok...

I'm fine with that...I'm just wondering what it is that they are looking for?...Killzone 3...above all others...has things the others do not...while call of duty especially, hasn't pushed any barriers at all in the genre..it found a working mechanic in 2007 and has closely stuck to that as much as possible...

I mean seriously...what is so generic about it?...its the ONLY fps set in a realistic sci-fi setting...no purple aliens that run around giggling...while GG has struggled with its story telling, the story itself is very intriguing and the setting is well developed...People said killzone 2 had too many corridors...was too dark and gritty...so they fixed that, and now the media has MORE of a problem with the single player than they did before?...Many articles are saying the mp of killzone 3 is 'currently the best available'...even though the single player is not...but on this game particularly, the weaknesses of the sp are hammered on more than other titles in the genre...I can think of 2 shooters that have decent single players enough to justify the game even if the mp is bad or non-existent...Bioshock and half-life...why doesn't it work the other way?

A logical explanation to this would make it easier to swallow...its just that never seems to happen...

[arika]

just like gt5, infamous 1, mgs4 and little big planet they are all masterpieces just like killzone 3 and they still scored 7's and 8's. like what other people are saying dont be fooled by the scores. people can be payed or bullied and there is no means penalizing them so they still do that, not all of them are like that but because of it they are destroying the industries credibility.

[IcarusOne]

Checked out the demo last night and I liked it. The engine looks pretty much the same to me and the controls are definitely more responsive, but the SOUND definitely has more love poured into it. Hearing the bullets and the gunfire in uncompressed 7.1 is a true treat for the ears. It's like Saving Private Ryan in space.

[RedDead]

I gotta say I feel it is WAY more responsive than KZ2. I like them, I have no problem with them. It is alot differant than KZ2. It's better than what I thought it would be. Although there are things which I dislike, the Sniper rifle is SO overpowered. Picked one up, got 10 kills in a row with minimal effort, it's so easy to use. Wish it was 2 shot kills. I only stopped getting kills because I was out of ammo.

[TBM]

The scores mean nothing to me I loved part 2 and im sure ill love part 3. Only my opinion matters on what I like or don't like.

[the_best_player]

Most likey the 360 KIDS are reviewing giving low scores like they did with GT5 cause they are upset.

The is true as they said controls are laggy, this is a lie.

fucking BOTs

[TK421]

The bias the bias. Halo didn't introduce any new gameplay in any of it's installments yet it scores 10's even in graphics. Go figure.

[Active Reload]

Are you talking about Reach? If so, then you haven't played it.

Edit: Oops, this is a KZ article. See what happens when you mention a game in another game's article. Got me looking like a troll, lol.

[PandaJenkins]

Clearly your a biased fanboy seeing as Reach did change and add things. Don't say crap without actually playing the games.

Edit: @above, I know how you feel. I stated fact yet I get disagrees.

[awiseman]

Amazing if you are not allowed to trash KZ in other articles but its perfectly ok to trash halo or gears in KZ articles. interesting....

[multiman]

@Da-shredder "fuck weightness in controls. If I wanna feel weight ill play with a real gun."

I think thats your problem mate you have been playing with that little pistol in your pants for too long.

I loved the heavy feel of KZ2, was a nice change from cod. I have played a heap of the closed beta and now a little of the open and am also enjoying the different controls again in killzone3.

You just gotta get used to it, same as every game.

[morganfell]

I am so glad that though they adjusted and tightened the controls there is still weight in them. I was in the closed beta and just finished 5 hours in the open beta Warzone. I couldn't be happier with the game. I am going to try it with the Move later today and see how it fares.

People like da shredder have an inability to comprehend the difference between weight and lag. They use the terms as if they are interchangeable and they are not. The controls have weight but they are responsive. Also the settings can be easily changed. Ever hear of Options? Crank the Y and X axis sensitivity up to a 7 and watch what happens. I've noticed most of these complaints come from COD twitch shooters.

Sites like Nowgamer only have validity if you allow them. I do not. They get nothing from me. No validity and no web hits. I need news and information, data I can process, not someone's ill constructed opinion.

There is an area that has no debate regardless if you understand the controls. This game is the overlord of all other shooters when it comes to sheer brutality. When you get taken down by a Brutal Melee, your death isn't some quiet affair.

Anyone that believes this is Killzone 2 understands nothing about the class system, perk allocations, or weapons system in Killzone 2 MP. Al of that has been relooked, rebalanced, and tightened. There were not any drastic changes from the closed beta that I have noticed thus far and that is a good thing.

[beavis4play]

DA_SHREDDER - what are you smoking? they made the controls much more responsive - and while i like the KZ2 controls, these are fine.

i played the beta last night and i LOVE it! i can't wait to get my hands on the game.

[Ares84PS3]

@DA_SHREDDER

I'm not sure what game you where playing but the copy of Killzone 3 open beta I got has great and responsive controlls.

Maybe you should buy a new controller? Or maybe you should stop trolling? You decide!

[Nathaniel_Drake]

you serious!?!? They were really fast for me. I had to slow it down. Beats Black Ops in gameplay by a mile. Oh yeah and when I aim at people at hit them, instead of aiming 5 yards away to kill them

[Inzo]

If the weight of the weapons was a problem for you in KZ2 then you have got to learn to play games, a true gamer will adapt.

[lelo2play]

If the single player is only 4-5 hours like some have claimed... then a 7 (or lower depending on gameplay) score is about right... unless it has a multi-player that totally blows out of the water other multi-player games.

If the single player is only 4-5 hours, then the question should be...

"Killzone 3: Are The 10/10 Scores Right?"

[RedDead]

Wasn't Vanquish like 3 hours long? "Quality over quantity" mate, I would rather quantity and Quality but the quote still applys.

[Baka-akaB]

there is nothing wrong with the controls .

You just dont like them . Guys like you expected the game to do a complete 360 in that aspect and just clone stuff like Cod ...

Wich would be idiotic and a suicide mission , since the game have an actual fanbase since kz2 and wouldnt even acquire the cod fanbase to begin with .

[nintenflo]

I don't want to sound like a sony fanboy( cuz I'm not ) but this industry defo seems very anti-Sony. First you had edge always giving low scores to Sony games, then you had all the low review scores for gt5 and now we have kz3 getting the same treatment. Hell even in the new gamesmaster they give kz3 a 77 out of 100 score, they did the same for gt5 also, despite it being one of the best games I've ever played!

[FailOverHero]

What a stupid question. How are we supposed to know? We haven't played the full game.
That said, it has a short, less than memorable single player campaign, let it get lambasted along with Conviction and Enslaved. Being ps3 exclusive doesn't exempt it from that scrutiny

[m2345]

are you seriously kidding me? so are we going to continue nitpicking this game to death? i saw not a single thing wrong with the controls in killzone 2 and i was a newcomer to the series.

this game is receiving too much hatred for *nothing*.

and of course you would say that failoverhero. you hate sony and the ps3 so much that you would say something like that. so why is it that the cod series gets a free pass?

[visualb]

I don't know, I'll judge once I've played the game

@ DA_SHREDDER

Having played KZ2 a lot, I am perfectly aware of how it feels, and I used the classic control config.

KZ3 is MILES smother, and I for one welcome it. It still has weight, but you feel more free in the space, You can climb almost any ledge jumpable.

Hell I had myself climbing the side of a building in the Frozen Dam, it was a great sniping point, totally impossible in KZ2 (you just fell off of everywhere, most spaces were prompted)

say what you will, the controls ARE BETTER

[RBLAZE1988]

So pretty much they ripped the game for not being bulletstorm. They complained that you go around, shoot things, and have to take cover. What a fucking joke. Sorry that every game that comes out doesnt have some fucking gimmick like pulling out a gay leash and giving you godly powers. I hate the people that review games these days. Hey guys I hate to tell you but there isn't an original game out there, just a bunch of gimmicks. W/e I'm gonna play the crap out of this game. @ da_shredder, the controls are just like bad company 2. Maybe a tad more weighty but they are far from shitty...go back to COD you twitch fiend.

[KotC]

This is the truth "It’s a question of what exactly Killzone 3 did to justify some perfect scores."

On this site if MS, Nintendo or Activision get good scores it's because they open a check book. Seems Sony (using N4G logic) is taking a que from MS ans Activision and started writing checks. So (using N4G logic again) MS must have got to the other reviewers first with the $$$.

KZ3 is nothing more than KZ2 with the same muddy controls and 4hrs of gameplay. Sony thought graphics and 3D would win the day, well graphics didn't win for Metro 2033 PC. Here is a tip Sony, gameplay first, then graphics.

[harrisk954]

I hate these flamebait articles. First, there have hardly been any 7/10 scores. This article makes it sound like it is sitting at 7.0 on metacritic. In fact, there are only 2 scores that are a 7.0. The majority of the scores (20 in all) are 9.0 or above, giving a metacritic score of 87. The Call of Duty metacritic is 88 for the PS3 and 87 for the 360. Halo Reach sits at a 91, with 5 scores a 70 or lower and one 50. There are a lot of 80s and 90s (as well as 100s), but bottom line is that the score is averaged from 99 reviews compared to 20 for Killzone 3.

[SuperbVillain]

nah man,this isn't your twitchy COD shooter,this game is doing different things and not trying to be like anyone else,adapt or die partner

[Vherostar]

Killzone is being treated like every other shooter and being judged right unlike games like halo/cod etc which get 9 and 10s purely on there names alone.

[Ascalon94]

the controls are better I have no clue what your talking about.

[Strange_Evil]

It gets 2 scores of 7 and we start getting retard @ss articles about how it's a disappointment.

Why people only rape PS3 exclusive with the usual 'It doesn't bring anything new to the table' is beyond me. Did COD:BO bring anything new to the table or what did MW2 bring that was ground breaking?

[NBT91]

MW2 refined the genre, no Game had teleporting knives or heat seeking magnetic bullets before.

[radphil]

"MW2 refined the genre,"

you forgot the hacking :p

Honestly though, it's sadly expected to see articles like this to pop up like clockwork now a days about games, considering all they're doing is just stirring up controversy by playing the "witty" side.

[beavis4play]

Strange_Evil - i agree. there have been more 8.5 -10 scores than 7 scores (not that reviews matter - if a person wants a game - they should get it).

NBT91 - MW2 had a crap SP campaign which was completely ignored by reviewers. it had bugs and hacks everywhere - also ignored. and BTW - you're saying adding " teleporting knives or heat seeking magnetic bullets" redefines a genre? i'll take KZ balls-out combat over CoD take on modern warfare any day.

[Ares84PS3]

Obviously you don't understand sarcasm.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

"Why people only rape PS3 exclusive with the usual 'It doesn't bring anything new to the table' is beyond me. Did COD:BO bring anything new to the table or what did MW2 bring that was ground breaking?"

When you are the king in gaming the little flaws, made up or not, are going to be blown out of proportion.

[jimbone79]

Dude, KZ is not the king of anything but Graphics, and those are praised by every site. If anyone disagrees please feel free to tell me what other categories KZ (any of them) is the best at. Not game play, not multi player, not even sales, I am just wondering why anyone would call it “the King”. When it’s not. I like the KZ series, I’ve played both of them and I will get KZ3 day one, but I can tell you there are better FPS’s out their. That’s the opinion of not just me, but million’s around the world.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

I meant in general for the Playstation brand. It's known for games, and it shows us this every generation. The media knows it too. Just like the Cowboys, Lakers, and Yankees, if you want to get media attention scrape the bottom of the barrel and people still give it attention as if it were something huge

[visualb]

true =)

KZ always had a hard time with critics

and before someone tries to be witty and say "maybe the hard time is because it isn't that good"

check again

compared to most FPS, its a rock solid experience that has improved in every iteration and thats more than a lot of other franchises pull off.

[Graey]

Its obvious.

PS3 is the popular kid at school. PS3 would be that kid that just doesn't go for the hype. Doesn't talk shit, just accepts people for who they are.

360...would be the kid that only says you can hang out with them if your a Star athlete, a hot chick, or someone rich.

At least that seems like the dynamics of things. You always hate on something that does good...as it's generates better ratings to bring negative news then to bring the positive.

Sadly this is what game journalism is about now. Pushing and tweaking the egos of the masses.

We all know GT5 was the shit, we all know KZ3 will be the shit. So why then does it effect us so. Simply because you don't like something you are passionate about being slammed.

The 360 does not have this problem...or it does on rare occasion. Reminds me of a talk show or something. Or a debatable news channel like Fox or The daily show. Shit is just retarded.

You know I've always wanted to run a gaming site...but one that actually did things correctly. There is a standard people. once you find it then don't settle for anything less and the people who look to you for their paychecks, will act accordingly.

V/R

[gypsygib]

The author of the article is a moron, he's acting like the gameplay is bland. Pretty much every game site loves the gameplay, they just knocked it down for the story.

It's almost unanimous that the actual gameplay is some of the best in the genre and the story is completely lame.

Although I love a good story, great gameplay = win = purchase.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

The gameplay is freakin addicting

[dantesparda]

Its called "fanboyism" my friend, and it will never be defeated. And to all the control haters, i like KZ2 controls, so please just stfu about it already. And i like the weightiness

[Feckles]

This:

http://n4g.com/news/693810/...

Makes me think that they might be. Certainly the ones that didn't review the multiplayer anyway.

[BrianG]

Its kind of funny they can review games without considering the multiplayer.

haha, lets review Socom Confrontation without the multiplayer part, sounds impossible, so of course they wouldn't. But why not fully play the multiplayer part of a shooter like KZ?

Also, we don't know for sure if that was the first time through or not. KZ2 took me like 8 hours first time through. After another play through I cut that time to under 6. Resident Evil 5 also took like 5 hours first time, but just over 2 hours after a few play through. Does that make it a bad game? God of war 1 and 2 can be beaten faster than 4.5 hours, are they bad games for it? I don't know, in my opinion no, but we all have opinion.

Apologies, started off with a 2 sentence comment in mind, and it evolved lol.

[ActionBastard]

Does it matter? Short answer: No.

[NBT91]

It does. 7/10 is a questionable purchase for some

[ActionBastard]

Make up your own mind, don't read someone's skewed paid opinion.

[m2345]

really? so people have to be drones and follow reviews? sure.

[PandaJenkins]

Thing is a lot of people like to go by reviews, so yes it does matter. I do think we should all make up our own mind because some people love certain games while others hate them. But still even so, people will rely on reviews and if they end up not entirely positive then they will start to question it. Just the way it is.

[Ju]

It does not. 7/10 is a questionable review in my opinion (in the context of comparing those with all other reviews).

[R_aVe_N]

Then you are a fool.... Anybody that lets a review score decide whether or not to buy a game is not a real gamer to begin with...

[insomnium2]

@raven

The real gamers are only a fraction of the purchases that games get. Fool or not they keep the industry going and they go by reviews pretty much.

[Mr_Bun]

It doesn't matter....everyone with an internet connection can play the beta and decide for themselves

[Nicaragua]

In 10 days time they wont be able to.

lets be real - review scores matter, maybe not to me or you who take time to delve beneath the surface of each new release but to the majority of people who arent clued up on such things.

Mr Smith shopping in the supermarket is more likely to pick up MW2 covered with "IGN says 10/10 !!!" than KZ3 which dosnt.

Sales while not important to me will reflect in wether a sequel gets made or is molded to fit what is deemed popular.

[visualb]

beta is AWESOME =)

i welcome the changes

imho:

a perfected Killzone experience

[Mr_Bun]

@Nicaragua

You make a point, but the majority of scores aren't as low as 7. So the handful grading it this way shouldn't impact sales/experience...the same way the low scores didn't impact the sales of COD

[Nicaragua]

I know but again only people like us will know that.

My brother has a PS3 although he dosnt follow whats happening like I do. That said he knows who IGN are and he knows what EDGE magazine is and thats as far as he will ever look and i would say that people like him account for the majority of console owners.

If IGN say Killzone 3 is the best game ever then he will buy it but they dont, they say COD is the best game ever so he buys that - year after year, and he's clearly not alone in that, hence the massive sales.

Sites like IGN are big and have major influence, maybe not to us but to a lot more people than us. Thats why it sucks that their reviews are so uneven.

[Wizziokid]

No, why? Because alot of the time the sites which give it a low score gave COD:BO or MW2 a great score.

nuff said

[X360Team]

I think Black Ops should be taken to task as well as that also didn't do anything new. That doesn't mean Killzone 3 should get a free pass, though.

It has just failed to make any real gameplay leaps throughout its three iterations. That doesn't mean it's a bad game. Just one that has the potential to incorporate a hell of a lot more ideas.

[redsquad]

DEAD SPACE 2 is another example - It didn't "reinvent the genre" that it created with DS1, yet was showered with far more praise and high scores.

Too many reviews of KZ3 are declaring from the off that it's "just another FPS"... So are they reviewing the game or the genre?

[fastrez]

Don't get why people are accusing NowGamer of milking this. They gave it a great score (8.7) they aren't trolling in this article.

It's an objective piece, just an unbiased analysis.

Oh, and Urmomlol is still a total dick.

[Feckles]

I agree.

Those 9/10 reviews seem a bit high given that it's only 4.5 hours in single player. It makes you wonder how a game that has only that amount of gameplay time can be awarded 9/10.

It's absolutely right and fair that this kind of thing is discussed on N4G.

[BrianG]

Resident Evil 5 should have gotten a 2 out of 10 then. I beat that game in just over 2 hours after a few play throughs.

Time does not equal quality. Also I know that article with the 4.5 hours shows proof its 4.5 hours. But what kind of gamer are they? Do they run through everything? And besides that, how can we be 100% sure that that was their first play through?

[Urmomlol]

LOL @ Now Gamer shamelessly trying to get hits by stirring up controversy that never existed to begin with. Pathetic. You guys call yourselves journalists? That's a laugh.

Oh, and stay classy Now Gamer writers. You guys are complete scum bags and everyone in the industry knows what complete jokes you are. Seriously, who goes on Internet message boards and calls their readers "dicks?"

Do you see editors from IGN, Gamespot or Joystiq doing that? Nope, and that's why you'll always be some no name web site that no one gives a crap about and they'll always be top tier.

[Feckles]

You're right: no one should feed a troll.

[ddurand1]

judging by one map in the beta, the game deserved more than a 7 for just having the multiplayer alone.

I wont even touch the singleplayer game anyway.

[galgor]

I absolutely LOVE the demo/beta! The silky smooth framerate coupled with the awesome graphics & fantastic gameplay has made it a day 1 purchase for me.

[ddurand1]

im enjoying it alot. Ive been trying to convert my black ops friends to this. I dont think theyre going to like teh transition though.

[blakstarz]

there is nothing wrong with the controls at all....people just have to learn to deal with the weight of guns.
The demo is straight up amazing

[sway__z]

Over hyped or not...Seems almost every exclusive game released on PS3 seems to get a kickin' from the haters. It goes to show that jealousy is rife and the other console brand owners have nothing much to do with their BOX's nowadays lool

Keep on hating, while we keep on playing suckaz!!

4.5hrs huh? 7/10 huh? ....ROFL

[skyward]

I could imagine KZ3's campaign as a 7/8 out of 10 experience, but as long as multiplayer is as good as KZ2, the overall score should be higher.

However, most of the reviews I saw hardly mentioned MP...

[lh_swe]

Follow these steps

1. Did you like KZ2? Yes/No (If Yes go to 4, if No go to 2)

2. look at video's and reviews, does it tickle a fancy? Yes/No (if Yes got to 3 if No go to 5)

3. Play Beta, interested? Yes/No? (If Yes go to 4, if No go to 5)

4. Buy it or rent it!

5. Don't buy it!

Simple!

[Lazy_Gamer]

I thought most sites gave it an 8 or a 9. A 7 is obviously too low for a game with a high caliber such as KZ3. Especially if they gave MW2 a much higher score.

[sway__z]

Yeah and the COD single play campaigns are seriously short and essentially crap, yet even its 2 worst games in the franchise WAW/B.O. still manages 9+ because of multiplayer. Hardly any reviews delving deep into KZ3 multiplayer WTF???

Stinks to high heaven. Disagree all y'all want. Clearly I sense some 360 trolls in here hating in the background.

Sad wannabe sackboys..go wave your arms in front of your console...go on, off with you! lol

[PandaJenkins]

it does confuse me how trash like WAW and BO get 9+ scores. I don't mind letting MW1 and 2 slide because there actually was some good in those games. Treyarch's installments however are just poorly designed and try to copycat what IW did with the series while adding their own new 'cool' features.

[caseh]

Heheh yeap that sounds about right. COD games get reviewers wanking over the online mode then within 2 weeks all you see are reports of 99% of the people who bought it complaining about glitches or balancing issues that never really get addressed.

Would have thought reviewers had spotted that trend after esentialy reviewing the same game 3 times before. :D *tsk tsk*

[sway__z]

MS's stance for 2011 'No Kinnect?.. then we're sorry you can't connect'.

Conspiracy Theory No.1 -

Seems MS wallet runs deep. Some of these review sites are slaves to their pay masters...go figure.

[Masterchef2007]

They improved a lot of things since the last one. And one of the biggest improvements are the controls. People complain how the controls are heavy but they are that way because of design choice.

[Fresh_N_New]

LOL the beta alone is a 10/10 for me. Maybe i'm too hardcore or something.

[NemesiEX]

The second article against Killzone 3. nowgamer tries to justify his vote. Why?

[Viper7]

It's Funny how call of duty games and some other games get free pass from the single player mode. On normal difficulty these games can be completed in mere hours.

The plot is usually shit, gameplay is usually repeative cover based shoot everything that moves (also popping heads) and follow a single path from the beginning to the end by throwing scripted events at the player.

Killzone2 and 3 at least try to make these better trough, enemy AI, setting, weapons (all unique and feel different) and then of course the graphics. Would guess that co-op campaign could also enhance the sp quite a bit especially on higher difficulty settings.

[Ju]

Re co-op. Especially because KZ2 got knocked or criticized because it didn't have co-op. Now it has, but nobody every mentions that or cares to actually gives it a better score because of it. I think some narrow minded will stick with their pre-manufactured opinion no matter what.

[espiritu604]

bubbles.

They ask for co op

GG gives co op

people dont notice co op

GG,GG

[lugia 4000]

Multiplayer- 10/10
Single player- 5/10(short campaign)
Graphics and sound- 10/10
So that will give like an 8.75

[Ju]

How can the single player be a 5/10. Because it is (supposed to be?) short? I mean, come on now. If the SP does everything right - and it is one of the best SP game out - alright, knock 1-2 points off for being short. But 5? Are you serious?

I mean, the visuals are extraordinary, the shooting is one of the best in the genre (precise, hit response, animation), character behavior, etc. If you don't like the story, -1, if you think it's short, -1. That still ends up at 8 in my books. But nowhere near as 5!

[espiritu604]

I KNOW! why 5! they just hatin on the game.

5 is too much

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!

[TardcoreGamer]

Definitely don't think it deserves a 7. A 7 score means the game has major flaws.
Judging from the beta its a good shooter. Nothing revolutionary. Here are a few of it's short comings. Beta so far seems like more of the same as KZ2 although the controls have been improved

*Rumor has it the story is extremely short(4.5hrs)and the story is so-so.

*Only one new game mode has been added.

*The stealth kills that they were touting do nothing other than get you killed by the other team due to the time it takes to execute.

[NicSage]

Speaking on controls, I use the Move with this and I have to say it's a blast, I downloaded this beta to test the move controls and I will be picking up Killzone 3 because of them. I'm not a god of a player or anything, but I have a better KDR with the Move than without, Right now on two separate PSNID's One is a 1.47kdr and the other is a 1.31kdr.

I tried going back to the controller after I used the move and I did Horrible, the move is the only way to go for me in FPS anymore, I just can't pick up a FPS if it isn't using the move.

[MsmackyM]

PS3 exclusives are always reviewed at a much higher standard than it's competitors. I've never payed attention to movie critics and I can care less about game critics. If I'm on the fence about a game i'll read the user reviews.

[Ju]

I don't get it why KZ gets knocked for "being just a shooter". Like CoD, BC, MoH or what every is any different. You run, you gun. Why is this a reason to justify a 7 in KZ? Strange world.

[Chrissy]

Guerilla need to hire better artist and fire whichever hobo, that by the looks of it spend all his childhood locked in a abandoned grey and brown factory, is in charge of the current bland, MGS4 like visual design. Someone with at least a drop of creativity so the franchise doesnt only appeal to your average lifeless sony basement dweller. Game looks average and generic as fuck.

Gameplay looks like a lost cause though.

[caseh]

Haaah, that actually made me laugh. :D For that much I thank you...Xbox owner by any chance? Not played Killzone 2 by any chance?

Helghan isn't exactly meant to be flowing meadows of lushoius green fields with bunnies running freely...

[MasterOfThe12Blades]

the amount of hate this game is getting is ridiculous. From everything I've seen KZ3 is an improvement over its predecessor so I doubt a 7/10 score is justified.
Regarding the length of the game psu.com stated that the campaign lasts for about 8 hours.
edit: videogamezone.de states that the campaign lasts 7-9 hours.

[mamotte]

Maybe consumers and reviewers are finally getting tired of FPS

[AssassinHD]

When the next Call of Duty releases in November it will be showered with critical praise.

[takohma]

Instead of going by reviews I try to stick to one reviewer and compare there reviews with mine to get a balance of what I like vs them. Usually I end up liking a game and think it deserves more than they give it. But I don't care what review it gets I'm getting it just because I loved the first one. I doubt I won't be happy unless they do a crazy drastic change

[Redempteur]

is it that hard to download the beta and feel the game by yourself ?

i loved the changes and the move controls are awesome.

[bobrea]

Reviews are neither "right" nor "wrong." They are simply opinions of a team of people or an individual. People who let reviewers determine if they will enjoy a game rather than personal research aren't the smartest people around. I also think that game sites are getting sick of giving every big name title a 9 or 9.5. I can see Killzone 3 as the first of many big titles to not consistently score 9s. I find this as a good thing because it will force developers to raise the bar in their game development. I don't care about reviews so I hope this happens. I know I have great options on no matter what platform I choose to play on.

[roflcopters]

downloaded and played for a few hours and it feels like just another FPS. i don't see what all the hype was about, weeks of ps3fanboys talking about this game made it seem like it was the next coming. not horrible but not amazing either.

[Loner]

Its a generic FPS.the end
Other than graphics it has nothing going for it.Another case of PS3 fans hyping up a game like its the second coming of christ
PS3 - It only does flops

[Sizzon]

Xbox 360 - it only does no exclusives

[labaronx]

I beat Call of Duty Modern Warfare 1-2 in about 5 hours, halo 2, halo 3, and Halo Reach, and Resistance 2 in about 4.5 hours... no complaints from me or anyone else....... but ive put over 50 hours in each cod multiplayer, and over 200 hours in each halo, resistance game plus killzone 2 (never finished single player).... the last 7+ hour fps single players i remember was halo ce and resistance 1.....

THE SHORT SINGLE PLAYER FPS HAS BECOME THE INDUSTRY STANDARD!!!!!!!

plus out of the 30 killzone 3 reviews ive seen about 2 (7)s and the rest were 8-8.5 and above 38 reviews > 2 reviews

[dooge]

Haters gonna hate.

[SuperbVillain]

stop listening what some douchebag at some mag has to say,they make their own opinion and you can make yours.I feel they are nit picking and trying to find any flaw they can with this game.

[Ponurasky]

Who cares? If I had interest in war FPS I would play only Killzone and Battlefield, rest is just garbage.

[Haseo106]

7 or 8/10 reviews all say that the Story of Killzone 3 is Weak or Short. I don't know about shortness. But weak? I don't think so. Even though Vasari (my favorite villain) was killed in KZ2, there are 2 new Villians. And the war is now coming to an END. I don't think the story will have any problems. To, Killzone 3 is still 9.5/10!

[psnIDwiggum]

The main topic in this article is that KZ3 is more of the same...and has been since it started. Personally, I don't care. Godfather II was "more of the same" from the first Godfather, does that make it not good? Was I expecting dancing pandas and completely new characters? No. I wanted to see the Corleone family..I was quite content with this.

I don't agree that every new title in a series has to break completely new ground. It's not what I signed up for. I WANT the pop and shoot mechanics. I like it. Myself and 3 million others....(or however many KZ2 sold)

[HarryPS3]

Reviews like this one doesn't change the fact Killzone III will rock as much or i'll bet even more so than II did for me.

[Lastlivingsoul]

I own COD, Halo, Battlefield, Killzone and Resistance titles. I loved all of them. I haven't completed the campaign on any of them...campaign mode sucks on all of these titles. If you want a good FPS campaign you pick up something like Bioshock or FEAR.

Until yesterday Battlefield Bad Company 2 was my favorite FPS multiplayer ever. But KZ3 is a beast...it's virtually flawless online. Even with only 1 map it is (for me) easily more enjoyable than both Black Ops and Reach (both of which I did enjoy). Time will tell if it can beat Battlefield:BC2.

So YES it's quite frustrating to see KZ3 getting docked significantly for it's campaign mode when Black Ops and Reach modes were too boring to even bother with.

As others have stated; Reviews do matter, these low scores will affect sales for KZ3. The fact is VERY few people are buying any of these titles for campaign modes at all. But now many of them will be missing out on what looks to be the best online FPS in recent times.

Well back to KZ.

[Clarence]

What the hell is he talking about yeah bulletstorm concentrates on gunplay but how repetitive that will get. KZ sports amazing graphics and gamplay. I had no problem with the controls at all. MW2, or Blackops does nothing new to FPS. COD franchise has not offered anything new at all. The same game with bull$h!t perks, but they get praised. Nothing original about the story either.