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What The Hell Happened To Killzone?

Are we ever going to see more of what was once one of Sony’s premier franchises?

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_SilverHawk_2312d ago

Hopefully Sony makes more killzone akin to killzone 2. I really like the darker tone

porkChop2312d ago

I agree. But cut down on the F bombs. I have no issue with swearing as I swear all the time, but KZ2 threw out F bombs like every 2 seconds. Sometimes 2 or 3 times in one sentence. It honestly felt forced and awkward. The game itself was great though. Loved the art style.

I'd really like to play from the other side though. From reading the lore the Helghast actually seem to be the "good" guys, or the oppressed. It would be nice to switch things up.

Bleucrunch2311d ago

that is a rather specific gripe...the game is set in war times between feuding worlds and folks are getting killed. I think its as real as can be for the circumstances, you would cuss too if you had bullets and grenades coming your way from all different directions. Definitely wouldn't be concerned about PC wording......

chris2352311d ago

never ever play bulletstorm then

Sunny_D2311d ago

I think it was less being offensive and more just saying it at the wrong times. The dialog wasn’t the best from Rico.

WickedLester2311d ago

I agree with this. I actually started noticing it in part 3. Like you, I have no problem with 4-letter words. But too much of it starts to get distracting after a while.

Hungryalpaca2311d ago

Go watch any footage with soldiers in combat. The f bomb is dropped more than actual bombs.

nucky642311d ago

i've never been in one, but i imagine war will bring out the swear words a little more often than in peacetime.

Sciurus_vulgaris2311d ago

I personally enjoyed the campaigns of Killzone 2 & 3. I personally don’t like the ISA characters due to their voice acting and I very strongly dislike the character of Rico. As I didn’t enjoy shadowfall too much and found it too be a step back from 2 &3. If their is another Killzone game, I would perfer playing the campaign from the Helghast perspective.

porkChop2311d ago

@Bleucrunch

"Definitely wouldn't be concerned about PC wording...."

When did I ever say it needed to be PC? I'm fine with profanity, that's not a problem. I'm talking about how it was almost literally every other word. It was cringey and awkward.

I'm not saying to make the game PG or anything, I just hope they take the writing more seriously. It felt like it was written by a 12 year old who just learned how to swear.

Christopher2311d ago (Edited 2311d ago )

***I think its as real as can be for the circumstances, you would cuss too if you had bullets and grenades coming your way from all different directions. ***

I don't play games to experience realism, but to enjoy them and the atmosphere. I prefer not to have my game cursing at me. It's not like most war movies depict people cursing throughout.

***Go watch any footage with soldiers in combat. The f bomb is dropped more than actual bombs.***

They also don't have save points for restarting after dying. How is this an argument "for" anymore than the opinion that someone wants less of it in a video game?

rainslacker2311d ago

F THAT! the more the.better I say😁

Dirtnapstor2311d ago (Edited 2311d ago )

I agree with porkChop in that a continuous run of expletives gets old and ridiculous. Yes, it could be something warranted contextually, but generally, are writers unable to come up with better dialogue?
In the real world, how one carries him/herself reflects a degree of intelligence. This shouldn’t necessarily get lost in narrative scripting....unless you’re writing a part for a blithering idiot.

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feenix-52310d ago

I 100% agree, while yes in a war time environment F-Bombs would be a regular thing, KZ2 shot them off like a 3rd grader that just learned a new swear word

yeahokwhatever2310d ago

I wish games would let you turn off bad language.

UltraNova2310d ago

Well if the only gripe you guys can come up with about KZ2 is the swearing then its a testament on how frickin good the game was.

Shooting was excellent, atmosphere was beyond impressive at the time, story was decent (for a Killzone game) and the visuals...man those sweet pixels...I was floored the whole ride. I've played it on hard from the get go and let me tell you I had a blast. The only other shooter I enjoyed so darn much was Black on ps2 and Halo Combat Evolved. Yes to this day K2 is the best fps I've played. It was right up my alley, heavy, dark and unapologetic.

These days Guerilla Games has demonstrated chops to reboot this IP and take it to the next level. But it has to be inline with K2's atmosphere and general gameplay feeling.

Until then a Killzone trilogy remake should suffice.

KillBill2310d ago

When I cam back home the first time in a long time after being in the military my mother commented that my language became nothing but F bombs. Simply did not realize it myself but the things you pick-up in the military usually start with such language.

Knushwood Butt2310d ago

Actually agree. Annoying characters dropping f bombs is not cool.

Still, aside from that, I loved KZ2 and 3. The PS4 game was a bit clinical, but I really should play through it again sometime.

Kratos_Kart20072310d ago

Dude...War isn't cute and cuddly....

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THEDON82z12311d ago

I want a Helghan vs Chimera crossover for PS5. I think the Helghan attitude towards war would make a perfect story. It could be allot like the Battle for Stalingrad but drawn out into a crazy story.

porkChop2311d ago

Hmm. That could be really cool if done right.

1-pwnsause-12311d ago (Edited 2311d ago )

That’s how people speak in the military lol, so it makes sense

fr0sty2310d ago

Horizon came out and proved GG could make a game with real depth.

KillZallthebeast2310d ago

Well the game is essentially space Nazi's so the darker tone just worked better

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TiredandRetired2312d ago

With the huge success of Horizon Zero Dawn, the studio was meant to expand from then, around 250 employees to around 400. They were supposed to move into a new studio space as well. I haven't kept up with it since that news, so I don't know if those numbers were achieved. But if so, it's possible that they've adopted a 2 active project pipeline. We'll see.

I do believe Killzone deserves another chance. Shadow Fall's execution was meh, but like your article says, it was beautiful, even by today's standards. (hence why Horizon and Kojima's Death Stranding went on to use the Decima engine), and most importantly to me, the multiplayer was still really well done for its time. While not as weighty as Killzone 2, Killzone Shadow Fall still has a nice weight to it that other shooters don't have. It's a nice break from super fast, twitch shooters. I actually see more people working together because of that and not going rogue. I also liked the drones and some of the different unit's abilities. The MP maps were nicely done.

I also really loved Mercenaries on the Vita and wouldn't mind a more fleshed out version of that on a console sequel, or probably a side-story project.

I want to see both a new Killzone and a new Horizon game. Guerrilla has something nice on its hands with Killzone, despite its stumbles and could knock it out of the park if they go back to the series with new passion. Horizon's lore was amazing for me, so they DO have capable writers. I think a lot of Shadow Fall's campaign shortcomings may have been because of pressure to release as a launch title. The pacing was all off and just felt weird at times. Other moments, it started to feel pretty good, so it was pretty inconsistent. Let the next one simmer in production a bit longer, don't rush it and hopefully we'll see Killzone hit new heights. The studio is certainly talented enough for it.

_SilverHawk_2312d ago

So you're a fanboy? A fanboy of a good game. I thought the vita version was amazing and reminded me of killzone 2. I wouldn't mind a PSVR version of killzone 2. 16 vs 16 in radec academy.

TiredandRetired2311d ago (Edited 2311d ago )

A fan, a pretty big fan maybe, but not a fanboy. I think fanboyism is to blindly praise "X" like a Sun God worshipper, never questioning or admitting faults. I game on all platforms, have my preferences of course, but I'll be quick to tell you when one of them makes a misstep. I'll always just be a fan of games first and foremost.

I didn't like the first Killzone at all, at least from what I can remember way back on PS2. Loved Killzone 2, still own it. Killzone 3 felt like it was a financial necessity sequel for the studio. Paint by numbers without the real heart I felt 2 had. I sold it off after beating it. My order of favorites is KZ2 > KZM > KZSF > KZ3 > KZ. I never played Liberation, but always meant to pick it up from PSN to play on my Vita.

But yea, I agree w what you said, KZ Mercenaries was amazing and I like your idea of PSVR, even though I don't own one yet. I'd like to.

UnholyLight2311d ago

Here's hoping a new Killzone might appear next gen. Would definitely convince me to stay within Sony among other reasons like Uncharted! I bought a PS4 this gen explicitly for the exclusives but found myself mostly just playing multiplats on PS4...Was very disappointed that I spent my whole childhood wishing I could play Killzone games and then when PS4 came out expecting a couple Killzone games...and while Shadow Fall was gorgeous and still is...it was a bit of a letdown for me.

pcz2310d ago (Edited 2310d ago )

killzone is a generic fps. all it really had going for it was great graphics. its enjoyable and thrilling in the moment but has no lasting impact.

INMATEofARKHAM2310d ago (Edited 2310d ago )

Honestly, pretty much all of Sony's first party shooters this generation has sucked... Last gen they had failures but at least they tried. MAG, SOCOMs. Warhawk (and Starhawk)

They at least carried over Killzone and Uncharted but, in all honesty, Sony dropped the ball. Those games deserved better MP support. Uncharted in particular. It's a completely unique take on a 3rd person shooter and it could be more than it is... A mode most people ignore or move on from way too soon because Sony never fully invests in it.

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purple1012312d ago

I brought a ps4 for GT Sport.
I will buy a ps5 for Killzone.

They both have this specific feeling you just can't get elsewhere.

bloop2311d ago

Where did you bring your PS4 for GT Sport??

VenomCarnage892310d ago

You'd get the PS5 for Killzone, but you didn't get a PS4 for Killzone? It was a launch title.

PoSTedUP2310d ago

I didnt get a ps4 because of gtsport. Been a gt fan for 24 years and its a damn shame they didnt remaster 6 or had just made gt7.

TheGamingArt2310d ago

Buddy, you’re counting wrong

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slate912312d ago

I was one of those players who were complaining about Killzone 2's movement system. The 'drunken-elephant'. I was naive and didn't realize they created something special and unique. Looking back, Killzone 2 is one of the greatest shooters ever, not only because of the graphics, but because it had its own identity in playstyle and features.
I hope the devs return it to the way it was.

skwidd2311d ago

It's nice to hear but also so sad. The criticism and originality in its mechanics alienated those who didn't see. I loved it so so much. The child no one gave a chance because they couldn't see how special it was. That led to KZ3 and the slow demise.. Hoping they visit it again after seeing how it does have a very hardcore fanbase (from KZ2) that they could go back to those roots, I'm sure these mechanics have been accepted more widely now that players have more appreciation for such nuances. Back then everyone played Halo and COD so KZ2 breaking the mold/standard was not so welcome.

Gardenia2311d ago (Edited 2311d ago )

A while back I was thinking about the Killzone 2 multiplayer days. A very special game and a lot of fun too. I still hear that cool sound when you killed someone. They should bring back the style of Killzone 2, both in gameplay and graphics

Edit: I just watched a view Killzone 2 multiplayer videos, and holy shit that game still looks amazing

MONOLITHICIDE2311d ago

Your comment made me go watch aswell. So much fun. Then BeachHead came out which was my favorite map from one and all is history. Why hasent there been a remaster for this.

kneon2311d ago

If PS5 launches with a KZ2 remaster then I wouldn't need to buy any other games for quite a while. My favorite multi-player FPS by far.

Sophisticated_Chap2311d ago (Edited 2311d ago )

The only problem with KZ2, were the 1 hour and 90 minute match games that people were creating, which got boring after 1/2 hour, but if you quit, you wouldn't get the points you earned from the match. Outside of that, it was one of the best games last gen.

Those few years around KZ2 were the golden years of gaming IMO. You had KZ2, Killzone 3, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, Uncharted 2, Resistance: Fall of Man, Resistance 2, Rainbow Six Vegas, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2, Motorstorm, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, Burnout Paradise, Socom: Confrontation, God of War 3, Heavenly Sword, The Darkness, F.E.A.R., F.E.A.R. 2, Far Cry 2, CoD 4, CoD: WaW, MW2, Battlefield: Bad Company, Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Battlefield 1943, GTA4, all within a 3-4 year span.

Gaming has changed so much since then. You just don't see so many great games released in such a short period of time anymore. I miss those days :(

kneon2310d ago

@Sophisticated_Chap

I absolutely loved those 1-2+ hour matches. They could be so intense. And because you're playing against the same people for so long, you each start to learn how the other side tries to approach the game, so you try to counter, and then they counter your counter etc. It's awesome.

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Dirtnapstor2311d ago

It was awesome. The design for the mechanics were unique. You could almost feel the weight of the guns while playing.
Killzone 5 please!

Razzer2311d ago

Which was a massive improvement.

Rimeskeem2311d ago

To Shadowfall, yes

Overall, different types of games so

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Helldivers 2 sparked renewed interest in Killzone. Do we deserve it?

Now, with most games these days, live service included, comes the inclusion of microtransactions. In Helldiver 2's case, these come in the form of Warbonds and the superstore. Some of them were a hit, others were a miss. But one of the superstore items that have sparked interest is the Killzone set. While this is nice, this would have much better served as a warbond. Putting it in the superstore comes off as greedy, but that's an issue for another video. More to the point, the Killzone franchise fanbase had taken note, and it sparked renewed interest in wanting the series to be revived.

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lodossrage74d ago

lol well, as fans we'd naturally say that (yes myself included).

But given some of the complaints the series garnered over the years when it was available is why we asked it it was deserved

RaiderNation73d ago

I think it does. A complete reboot would be ideal with a better story and main protagonist. I love the asthetic of the Killzone universe, along with the premise of Earth warring with another planet of humanoid beings, and Earth possibly being the antagonists. They just need to develop a good main protagonist and have better writing. A Killzone reboot in the latest version of the Decima engine would be incredible.

Abear2173d ago

If it makes dollars it makes sense, that’s how these decisions are made.

Clearly Sony or whoever makes this decision isn’t convinced Killzone would sell enough to support the cost of development. They also have a hit with Horizon that isn’t going anywhere anytime soon and prints money.

JunonZanon73d ago

A trilogy remaster with KZ2 MP would be a good start

Cacabunga72d ago

With Move and sharpshooter support? I can dream!

lodossrage72d ago

considering the time we live in, it would more than likely get a VR option to replace the move support

Jingsing73d ago

Not unless they come up with some amazing marketing campaign otherwise it will just perform as bad as Halo these days.

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Killzone composer would love a remaster trilogy, “don’t know if a new game” would be successful

Killzone and Horizon Zero Dawn composer Joris de Man would like PlayStation to make a remaster trilogy, but not a new game.

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_SilverHawk_79d ago

Id like a remaster trilogy and the ps vita version remastered as well. It should also have killzone 2 multiplayer

Cacabunga78d ago

Yes make them start with KZ2 multiplayer remake as standalone!! I would play the carp out of it.

INMATEofARKHAM78d ago

Knowing Sony and how the Uncharted remasters shipped without their MP components they'll likely do the same with Killzone.

Outside_ofthe_Box78d ago

Then there's no point in remastering it imo. KZ2's MP was the best thing about Killzone.

Knightofelemia79d ago

I'd day one a remaster trilogy I'd even day one a remaster trilogy or Resistance as well.

GamingManiac77d ago

Same! But with KZ2 and R2 multiplayer!

JEECE78d ago

I'm glad they stopped making Killzone before people started saying "mid," so I am spared seeing all the braindead "Killzone is actually mid" takes that people inevitably would have offered up in lieu of legitimate analysis.

INMATEofARKHAM78d ago

They were mid, tbh. Just the best Sony put out in the 1st person/exclusive department.

RedDeadLB78d ago

I don't know about that. They weren't the greatest shooters out there, sure, but nothing even came close to the atmosphere of 2 and 3. The feeling of weight, the animations, the style, the multiplayer and the trophies made it one hell of a game. All shooters are in essence point and shoot, but few make you feel the way Killzone made you feel while doing it.

senorfartcushion78d ago

They will cast a woman on one of the lead roles, just like how they did it in the past, but toda's nerds will find an excuse to be angry about it.

ibrake4naps78d ago

It should be a crime that they didn't put out a version of part 2 that supports their VR headset. A no-brainer...

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Killzone Deserves More Than A Helldivers 2 Crossover

Arrowhead is now giving away its second load of crossover cosmetics for free.

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_SilverHawk_174d ago

I would really like a remastered killzone trilogy on ps5. I wouldn't mind even just a killzone 2 remake or remastered with multiplayer but I think it's time for sony to revisit the franchise and do something big.

isarai174d ago

Id love that, with 120fos modes Augh😩

Cacabunga173d ago

KZ2 was and still is masterclass.
KZ3 was great too but KZ2 had a better multi.
SF was not as great but solid game still.

We just want KZ2 remake!

Becuzisaid173d ago

@cacabunga
Don't leave out that Vita game (Mercenaries?). That game was phenomenal. I rank it between KZ2 and 3.

Army_of_Darkness173d ago

Acknowledging the current trends of Sony, I would say if they were to make a new Killzone, they would probably remake it into WokeZone😂

Knushwood Butt173d ago

The isometric game on PSP was a blast too. Had a really solid feel to it. Hope that gets a release on PS Plus Premium.

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TheEroica172d ago (Edited 172d ago )

Begging for remastered games is just so lame... Killzone was mid. Nothing more. Make new stuff.

TriniOutsider172d ago

They're making new stuff...

FPS_D3TH172d ago

lol yeah about all that new stuff….

chicken_in_the_corn173d ago

It needs a new game. Better yet, a new stand alone trilogy.

robtion173d ago

Killzone 2 was INSANE when it came out. The look/graphics were so far ahead of everything else at the time and the story and gameplay were top tier. It still looks better than a lot of games that release now.

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