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Killzone 3 Splitscreen Image Shows Odd Discrepancy

Guerrilla Games put a lot of work into the Killzone 3 engine, including sterescopic 3D, a feature that really does push the PS3's rendering abilities to its limits. But with the ability to render double the amount of frames per second, gamers have been wondering if the developers had anything else to add to the title. A supposedly leaked image suggests though, but has an odd discrepancy.

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In Killzone 2 when you stood next to other people liko Rico you (Sev) looked really short. Thats because they placed the camera in Killzone 2 around your chest but a lot of people moaned about this. So in Killzone 3 they must have moved everything up to your head height meaning the gun is now too high up. Its not fake its just the way KillZone is.
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I'm having a hard time believing this image.

Washington-Capitals5305d ago

I really hope they focus on the fundamental functions of the game first and make sure those are polished to a q. Then go ahead experiment with stuff like splitscreen, 3D, move support. As we have seen recently in certain games, you need to focus on completing the game to the best your ability. Trying to master all is being master in none.

Bathyj5305d ago

Really Washinton, because I thought Killzone 2 was pretty complete and polished.

And once it became apparent the graphics were up to scratch (and couldnt be ridiculed for not reaching the target render) what did everyone talk about then?

No Co-op !

Qui-Gon Jim5305d ago (Edited 5305d ago )

I can't speak for Washington-Capitals, but I took it that he was referring to Fallout: New Vegas. That is a recent game that is known for having tons of glitches.

Or maybe you were just saying that KZ2 was pretty polished, so they can now work on the extras?

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5305d ago

''not placing them down at an angle.''

Why would you shoot to your partner? Many games have this functionality to avoid friendly fire.

morganfell5305d ago (Edited 5305d ago )

I see they are getting an early start. Let's not wait until the game is released like happened with GT5. They are realizing that with an AAA title you have to start lowballing it a few months before release.

Remember being with your AI buddies in KZ2? When did they ever aim right at you? Gun position is a natural animation not always controlled by the player - particularly in how said animation appears to other players.

I am in the KZ3 beta and unless your team mate is ADS then the weapon appears down. There is plenty of footage on the web, have a look, go back to the drawing board and start looking for something wrong with Infamous 2 or Resistance 3.

Hideo_Kojima5305d ago (Edited 5305d ago )

In Killzone 2 when you stood next to other people liko Rico you (Sev) looked really short.

Thats because they placed the camera in Killzone 2 around your chest but a lot of people moaned about this.

So in Killzone 3 they must have moved everything up to your head height meaning the gun is now too high up.

Its not fake its just the way KZ is.

DORMIN5305d ago

@Alpha Centauri:

EXACTLY. This is the anti-friendly fire thing in so many games. lol
Didn't KZ2 even have this?

Halochampian5305d ago

Agree with Washington-Caps

I really didnt like the feel of Killzone 2. The graphics were nice along with the effects but the gameplay bored me. Hopefully the 3rd is more my cup of tea.

Oh and GO CAPS! :)

HolyOrangeCows5305d ago (Edited 5305d ago )

"Based on how the player on each screen section is posed, both characters should be aiming their weapons at each other, not placing them down at an angle"

Just like every other shooter on the planet. In 99% of FPS games, you'll actually notice that the bullets come from OVER the barrel of the gun.

It's just how the engine works.

Image: Exhibit A = Call of Duty 4

Halochampian5305d ago

@holy

I think Halo does a pretty good job at this. If you look into how Bungie does it.

insomnium25305d ago

A person called halochampian saying KZ2 is not good. What are the odds....?

Kurt Russell5305d ago

I really see this as a non issue. It would be nice to be sorted, but I doubt i would have even noticed it unless pointed out in all honesty.

Lich1205305d ago

@Insomnium

Saying a game did something well != KZ2 is bad.

insomnium25305d ago

@lich120

Did you see both of his comments?

Halochampian5305d ago (Edited 5305d ago )

@insomnium

Get off your high horse. I know you find it ludicrous to own all consoles, but i do.

Killzone 2 was also the second game i got for the ps3 and I hated the single player. It just bored me. The multiplayer was a little better but it just wasnt what i liked. I didnt like the control or feel of the game.

I love how fanboys are on here. You say one thing negative about the game and you must be a fanboy of the opposite system. Grow up. I love Halo. But does that mean I hate every other FPS? No.

Killzone 2 was a huge jump over Killzone 1. Hopefully 3 is the same.

Also. You didnt get what Lich120 was saying. I said a game that wasnt KZ2 did something well equals a bad thing because fanboys will attack... as they did.

RIP_Weazel5304d ago

If you shot your team mates in KZ2 enough, they'd turn on you and kill you.

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Traveler5305d ago (Edited 5305d ago )

I don't really see how we can draw any conclusions from this. The gun on the left is aimed downward which could more or less fit in with the gun position of the character in the right side. The gun position of the left isn't really clear.

Shikoro5304d ago

Exactly, I don't know what people are seeing in this pic to be called fake. The positions of the guns in both players' perspectives is right and can't be done better because it's done RIGHT.

Also, Filthy Eskimo (SikTh) is the one who originally leaked the first info about KZ3, you know, the things about the snow. And guess what, he was right so I don't doubt his credibility. :)

Blaze9295305d ago (Edited 5305d ago )

from the looks of that screenshot looks like they are pulling a World at War and not having a full screen split-screen experience. I hate games that have those cropped black edges instead of utilizing the full screen.

I think Halo 3 does it too.

DasBunker5305d ago

no matter what people will always find something to b**** about.

wsoutlaw875305d ago

so you dont think having to use only about 1/3 of the screen on split screen is annoying because i agree with Blaze, i hate it

WildArmed5305d ago (Edited 5305d ago )

I agree.
I hated that in R2, I hated that in RE5, I hated that in LP2. I hated that in Reach.
Damn it >.< I like my split screen w/o black spots.
(but I know why they do it, but it just takes it away from the total experience WHEN PLAYING SPLITSCREEN)
>.<

Killzone3Helghast5305d ago

people complain about not having splitscreen but when they do have it they still complain. Go figure. Do you even know how much power it needs to render 2 people playing on the same console in splitscreen?

Soldierone5304d ago

Wow just because you make a suggestion people call you out for "bitching" about the game. Its a flaw, obviously people hate it, so why not fix it? Nuff said.

WildArmed5304d ago (Edited 5304d ago )

lol..
So if they do a half-assed job for splitscreen it's ok?
I rather them not do it at all, I know it hurts you that people CRITICIZE killzone 3, but believe it or not.
Criticism is what makes a game improve, not ass kissing.

If people see something they don't like, unless they vocalize it, no1 will ever know.
If people see something they like, unless they vocalize it, no1 will ever know.

It goes both ways.
If you wanna close ur eyes and only read ass-kissing comments, you are in the wrong place.

I doesn't matter how much 'powerz' it needs.
It doesn't mean you do a half-assed job bcoz you used to much of the 'powerz' already.
Keep it simple then, no splitscreen.

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Bits-N-Kibbles5305d ago (Edited 5305d ago )

I won't believe it till I hear it from the Gorilla'z mouf.

Maddens Raiders5305d ago

hard time believing this is news.

visualb5305d ago

its such a silly analysis...

the game model wouldn't be holding the gun EXACTLY in the same position as the person aiming...

this is seen in EVERY single FPS....its just a matter of matching the model up perfectly with the controller...

I doubt they'd FAKE this...seriously =P

big deal over nothing...however be careful with what you wish for..they might remove it if we keep jinxing it =O

gameraxis5305d ago (Edited 5305d ago )

fake... and it looks like maybe sev is holding a different gun all together.. nowhere on that gun is the flat, slope, flat steel top, and the gun sev is holding looks like it has iron sights in one, and some sort of squarish red dot in the other... so i challenge consolepress to look VERRY CCARRRFULLY before releasing garbage. also theres lighting on the top surface of sevs gun in the image of him, and no lighting in the fps view. it may look like the slope is there now that i look twice, but still distortion is off, lighting is off, something is off about this, and if not, who gives a crap, maybe they're talking to each other and GG wanted it too look like sev is holding his gun at ease while talking with his back against the wall, but if ur playing sev u see the normal view of the gun. we simply don't know enough about this game to make any assumptions and even if this article is right, who cares? stupidest article I've ever read, insignificant point.

UnbiasedTroll5305d ago

“Call of Duty: Black Ops has been an incredible success on PlayStation 3,” said Jack Tretton, President and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment of America (SCEA). “Treyarch's latest efforts are driving unprecedented traffic to the PlayStation Network with the flagship online experience this holiday season.”

thats sad..flagship shooter on PS3 is Call Of Duty. Oh where at thou Killzone 2 now? died within 1 month.

XsteveJ5304d ago

Did you even read your own quote? "flagship online experience THIS HOLIDAY SEASON."

Nice try.

thorstein5304d ago

Not only that. I am in the BETA and NOTHING looks that craptacular.

solidt125304d ago

this isn't news and this games is not even out yet.

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PirateThom5305d ago

Even if it is real, so what?

In FPS games you're holding your gun up all the time, which you wouldn't in real life... so, in fact, the "guns down" is "real life", the actual aiming camera is "game".

jriquelme_paraguay5305d ago

true.. some times in Bad COmpany 2 i aproach an enemy thinking he isn see me.. WROOOONG.. "BOOM HEADSHOT", and i die.

But, i think thats why games need to show you better where your enemy is looking/aiming
sory for my english

WildArmed5305d ago

haha yeah. But sometimes it happens due to radar, or they're teamates screaming GUY BEHIND YOU.

But I've had that happen when the guy headshot me even thou he was facing like 90 degrees to the right o_O

visualb5305d ago

exactly my point right above you pirtate.

you get it. I can't believe GAMERS could even consider this point...its so common in FPS, even today

awiseman5305d ago

Thats not that important you know...

They did the same thing with Halo:Reach.

One small issue and the game is crap right? FAIL

ZombieNinjaPanda5305d ago

He didn't say it's crap, he's just not sure whether this is real or not.

XI_-Minty-_IX5305d ago

This isn't really conclusive evidence that the pic is fake or anything. Take Battlefield: Bad Company 2 for example. Your character model actually has the gun down, but on your screen, the gun is up.

Dom63905305d ago

killzone 2 employed this as well the only time the gun is up on the character model is when you are using the iron sights :) which they are not in the video

GeoramA5305d ago

Since there's no 360 exclusives to be excited for, crap all over the PS3's!

hoops5305d ago (Edited 5305d ago )

Yes we know. It's all a conspiracy against Sony and the PS3!!!!

Saying that, this is a silly article.

SpartanPrince5305d ago

all he said is that the image might be fake. He's not downplaying kz3. Dont be so defensive

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piroh202d ago

There's too many games to choose from

No Metal geat solid 1,2,3,4?
No Resident evil?
No Silent hill?
No Midnight club 3?
No NfS Underground 2?
No Final Fantasy?
No Burnout 3?
No Dragon quest 8?
No Days gone?
No Ace combat?
No Tekken/Soul calibur?......
just from the top of my head

PS1 era was full of great RPGs, PS2 was racing generation i would pick top 200 and even that would be just a fraction.

FinalFantasyFanatic201d ago

30 is way too low over the entire history of Playstation, I just wouldn't be able to narrow it down that much, I would pick 100 at least.

Storm23201d ago

Yeah...really odd list. I get that it is personal preference and I love most of the games listed, but my list would definitely be different. I agree though, it would be incredibly difficult to come up with just 30.

lockedongamer1201d ago (Edited 201d ago )

I only picked first-party titles. Otherwise, I agree!

EDIT: Except for Days Gone, I don't get the love for it but you do you!

Chocoburger192d ago

I didn't like Days Gone either, it doesn't deserve to be on any best of list.

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar767d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor767d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar767d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg767d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz149767d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance1138767d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim767d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC767d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance1138767d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle767d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix76767d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM767d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware730767d ago (Edited 767d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger767d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca767d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy767d ago (Edited 767d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain767d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright767d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Killzone 3 is playable with mouse & keyboard on PC via RPCS3 & KAMI

DSOGaming writes: "While Sony does not plan to release Killzone 3 on the PC, Yahfz shared a video that gives us a glimpse at what such a PC version could look like."

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bouzebbal1518d ago

Still looks secure 2 gens later... one of my favorite ps3 moments. With 3D and move the game is on another level

MadLad1518d ago

PC almost always ends up the best place to play games, even if it takes a while.

What would you rather play decades down the line? A game at a fixed resolution and frame, considering you have a working disc, and the hardware?
Or run it on an emulator that can update the experience all around, and let you use whatever control input you prefer?

If you insist on the former, it's really only for the sake of nostalgia.

Applejack1518d ago

I disagree. The main draw for consoles has always be the simplicity of just putting the disc in / downloading it and playing without worrying about anything else. The average person just wouldn’t want to deal with emulation even though it’s very important for preservation.

Terry_B1518d ago

Even emulators are super simple to use.

jukins1518d ago

Youre getting flak because people on here thibk of themselves as pc wizards. But honestly most poeple try and go get emulators and romz they end up with malware.. yes theyre "easy" if you know the basics but alot of people dont. That said the fact that its taken nearly 20 years to get a sustantially better experience for ps3 games than on its native system shows the complexity of getting bc to work. Sony, if they have any intention, should just invest in a vastly better psnow experience.

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jukins

Most people who emulate don't get malware, you'd have to be going to some weird sites for that to happen, heck years ago people were getting sketchier ad's resulting in malware warning on this site if you didn't have a ad-blocker lol.

SinkingSage1518d ago

Can't get malware if you legally dump your own games, which you should.

Rachel_Alucard1518d ago (Edited 1518d ago )

That's fine if that's the main draw, but it doesn't make it a better experience, just a preference. Having the freedom to do the things you can do on PC is what the appeal of PC is. Buying a game on PC means you never have to worry about the console makers just deciding the next hardware shouldn't support the generation anymore, which means everything you bought is stuck on that hardware instead of moving up with everything else. Nintendo uses this tactic to keep reselling the same games over and over at inflated prices. Sony cut all previous gens off the PS4 and sold it back to people in a poor attempt with PSnow. While the PS5 supports PS4 games, that may not be the case in the next gen after this. No to mention shutting off all the previous stores and updates completely. Even MS stopped making new BC titles at some point, so now there's a big list with 17 pages of titles that are not playable on Xbone and are just trapped on older gen. That's not a problem on PC, the reverse happens where you only have to worry if your hardware can play the newest releases at ultra with no issue.

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AzubuFrost1518d ago

Shhh don't say that aloud! You're going to trigger a lot of console infidels here.

Shane Kim1518d ago

I rather play it when it's available then wait 10 years.

MadLad1517d ago

Did you purposely miss the entire point of my post?

Inverno1518d ago

Well that's the beauty of still owning a retro console tho. Those who usually complain about emulation are just being blindly loyal to a company. Emulation is great for many reason, but if I still owned the console then I disagree nothing beats plugging it back in and going down a nostalgia trip

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RevXM1518d ago

The RPCS3 devs are doing great work. And Kami works nicely with it too it seems.
Very neat.

Magatsuhi1518d ago

Been playing mgo on pc with mouse. It's not perfect but I can make it work.

Binarycode1518d ago

2 is the better game.

A Remake would be good. 60fps 2-4k

Omar3li1518d ago

60fps is peasant for FPS games now

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