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Will Sony 'Move' the Needle?

What Nintendo started four years ago with the Wii, both Sony and Microsoft are now attempting to take to the next level with PlayStation Move and Kinect – two vastly different approaches to the motion gaming field. While Microsoft won't be shipping Kinect until November 4, PlayStation Move has been on store shelves since the middle of this month.

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donniebaseball4958d ago

Interesting write up. I pretty much agree with the author that Move works well, but I just don't see it selling a ton.

Buff10444958d ago

I just read that it's back ordered at Gamestop. Seems pretty successful so far.

darthv724958d ago (Edited 4958d ago )

the move will play a more integral part in sony's next console. Perhaps they will even make it work with their tv's.

I tried it at fry's yesterday. Neat little controller. I played this game where you have to fan these parachuting little people on to boats before sharks get them.

I then tried out ping pong in sports champion (i was this blanka looking guy) and wow what a difference it is compared to table tennis on the wii. You try to baby a swing and the ball goes flat. It took me a few tries to finally get a good rythem but i had to tell the sales guy to stop crowding me.

EskiJoe4958d ago

I couldn't get hold of one, today.... went to the store and they said they were sold out and I should try another store down the road. So i went to the other one and they didn't have it too... I'm hesitant to buy one because I really should be focusing on my studies but still its an interesting device

D3acon4958d ago

look at the sales of the wii, people want that. the biggest difference, to me, is that the wii does not have any hardcore games, its for kids mostly. the move is more precise, the graphics are better, and there are casual games and hardcore games that utilize the controller. My parents are almost 70 and my dad and mother played a video game for the first time, it was wii bowling, he asked me how much it would cost to get a wii, I told him about the playstation move and getting the bundle is cheaper than getting a wii. so the demand is there.

another point is microsoft's kinect. good direction but you still want feedback, I pretty sure one company is going to bring back the power glove, or gloves that can give you texture and feel. the technology does exsist, something I think microsoft should have invested in before introducing kinect.

donniebaseball4958d ago

A glove for Kinect, neat idea. I remember thinking the Power Glove back in the day was the coolest thing ever. But, I definitely could see how a Mad Catz or someone could do something like that for Kinect, if MS doesn't do it on their own.

shadyiswin4958d ago

Not gloves I was thinking wrist bands, they sync with the console and the force feedback can be coded to them as with a controller, but once again kudo is kinda right you don't miss the feedback while playing, the actual reaction from being so immersed in the game exceeds the need for force feedback. If people complain enough they will make it.

Cenobia4958d ago

Gloves could be a cool idea, but no one could make the controller except Microsoft. The gloves would need some sort of signal from the 360 and its games and that's not gonna happen without MS support.

Mad Catz can really only copy the console makers designs with their own little twist (which usually includes shoddy parts and manufacturing).

TheBrit4958d ago

Unless y ou already have the PS3....
How is a $399.99 ps3+move bundle cheaper than a wii?

blackburn54958d ago

It will sell well enough. It is just a controller. It doesn't have to sell 10 million or anything. As long as their is interest in it and Sony and the developers support it,it will be fine.I don't know where people got the idea Sony was competing directly with the Wii. I never heard them say that up to this day.

donniebaseball4958d ago

Thing is, if Sony wants Move to see more developer support, then it DOES need to sell many, many millions to get a larger installed base. The bigger percentage of PS3 owners that pick it up, the better it will be.

sinclaircrown4958d ago

Move will be awesome compared to the Wii as it will deliver hardcore games too.

Fact is though, Move and Kinect are MS and Sony's attempt at the market share the Wii took from them. Smart ideas, since these companies are all competing in the same area.

nintendo sales went through the roof with the Wii because they were first, and cheap.

MS should have follwed Sony in my opinion and copied the Wii also. I think Kinect will struggle at first, until devs find a cool way to integrate it with new games. Move on the other hand is mostly just a new controller, which can't really 'fail'.

wat6344958d ago (Edited 4958d ago )

The move indeed is good hardware, but since A LOT of gamers dont go on gaming sites, I bet you tons of people don't know sony's move but know kinect, its because microsoft has been advertising more. This morning I saw a kinect ad 3 times on tv.

That said, I just cant see move selling A lot, but enough to keep sony happy.

@below - really? then their showing it to the wrong people, as many people say, "it caters to the hardcore". Sure it also shows casual games, but at the moment I dont see one i like.

blackburn54958d ago

that isn't true. I see Move ads all the time on Nickeloden and Cartoon Network, family stations. Also move ads are all over ESPN.I however haven't seen a single Kinect ad yet. So it probably depends on what channels you watch. So you shouldn't jump to the conclusion that tons of people don't know about the Move.

Cenobia4958d ago

I'm in the same boat, but I think that might be because I actually stop the TVR to watch Kevin Butler commercials.

Still need at least one hardcore game to release before I buy Move though. Maybe Sorcery if it turns out good. And if the next Elder Scrolls has Move support it'll get a lot of people to buy one.

dead_eye4958d ago

in the uk i never seem to see any ps3 related adverts but move seems to be all over. it's in bus stops and i've seen loads of tv adverts. think sony are really pushing move

BillOreilly4958d ago

the only thing that will sell wii numbers is the 3ds. It will be an epidemic how well it sells. I see kinect catching on for xmas and selling well but not wii numbers. Move will do alright over time.

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia826d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog825d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916825d ago (Edited 825d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69825d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming825d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79825d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember825d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog825d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop825d ago (Edited 825d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog825d ago (Edited 825d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop825d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic824d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop824d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic823d ago (Edited 823d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal825d ago (Edited 825d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic824d ago (Edited 824d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10825d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar825d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10825d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell825d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10825d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72825d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming825d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog825d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming825d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming825d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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