Halo Reach Premiere HD from Bungie

The Halo: Reach World Premier video in HD, courtesy of Bungie. Enjoy.

[THE MAX SPEED 21]

Mass Effect Meets Halo!!!
Still want to see Gameplay though.

[Megan Fox]

Now you can really see how much Bungie improved the graphics with this HD video, I guess this kill the thought of the Xbox been maxed out.

[tuglu_pati]

One word to describe this,

Impressive!

[SnuggleBandit]

definitely a good jump from halo 3 and odst...nothing too amazing yet though

EDIT: Wow...i was praising the game!!!! And honestly i didn't see anything mind-blowing did you?? Game looks good...and im not a fanboy, if i had the money i would buy a 360 but i don't.

[darkequitus]

@z-hayden

Of course itis not amazing. It is not on the PS3
/S

At least you are true to form i.e. Blind

I suggest you download the 720P version from the Bungie site. IF you can stomach going there.

http://www.bungie.net/proje...

[el zorro]

@z-haden

Sure buddy, if you say so.

Seriously though, those graphics are insane. So detailed, clean and with amazing lighting. The landscape also looked extremely good.

[Bungie]

http://www.bungie.net/age_g...

put your age (or just copy this " 10/10/1980" )

and download it

it's about 115 mb

damn what a busy day

[lokin]

I tried to not let myself get exited for this game just yet...(I hate to wait for things I want now)... But that went out the window when watching this... Can not wait.

[dragunrising]

I am throughly impressed with the apparent improvements in Halo Reach. New engine, multiple Spartans, and the return of elites for enemies. I hope the graphics in the trailer are representative of in game. The hype has started...:-)

[starchild]

Sweetness. I thought I would be disappointed with the graphics but to my surprise they are freakin sick. Bungie you have won me back over.

[green]

Just downloaded the HD version from Bungie.net and Halo Reach is sure going to be a force to be reckoned with in 2010.

[ABizzel1]

OK the HD looks a lot better. This looks really good, but I still want to see gameplay.

[darkmurder]

Graphics look great, as usual PS3 fanboys will say its worse than Halo 3.

[Maddens Raiders]

presentation... and this is the in-game engine to boot? Color me impressed MS / Bungie.

[darkmurder]

Be funny to see everyones thoughts after the last thread where everyone was bashing it.

[Immortal Kaim]

Do yourselves a favour and download the HD trailer from Bungie Net...Looked a lot better than I anticipated.

[jhoang]

this cinematic needs to be compared with the ODST cinematics to see the real change. because that's the closest thing we can compare too. you dont normaly get that type of lighting in-game anyway i dream to be wrong though.

[BWS1982]

version of the trailer (the full 125 MB BungieNet one) has me very excited and impressed. Let's see what they can do with the engine in various environments (indoor, outdoor, lighting, particles, etc..) and I'm dying to see gameplay and I REALLY hope this one comes with a level editor even more expansive than any other console one. I have yet to play through Halo 3 but did play through both the first two on the first Xbox. This actually has me much more hyped up than I was before for this game, and I'd just bought an Elite this fall (first 360, had Xbox 1 last gen)...Nice to own both now!

Very well done trailer, amazing music, and the little touches were epic, ie: the dude loading rounds into the clip on the craft as the Spartan walked by....Very cool.

Edit: I should recommend EVERYONE watch the downloaded BungieNet one, I have it on my PC now, and I'm keeping that version, it's the best one by far (ignore the G.T. one as it's compressed and you will notice artifacts and the like). It's awesome. Get it, now.

[SixZeroFour]

guys z-hayden is right tho...this was a very good looking trailer, but wasnt too "exciting" cause it was just a cutscene

loving the look so far and boy did the elite bring a huge smile to my face :D i cant wait...bring on the beta bungie!!

EDIT - i agree with everyone recommending the HD version on b.net...other videos just wont do the trailer justice

[andron]

More realisitc and subtle look in this trailer, very atmospheric.

Still think the facial animations are a bit "cartoony", like Halo 3. Voice work seems much better though...

[green]

Do you know why we are going crazy over the graphics even if its just a cutscene? Its because Bungie,s cinematics for all Halo games have always looked 100% identical to in-game graphics.Bungie have never (to my recollection) used pre-rendered graphics or CGI for any cutscene in all 4 Halo games that they have made.

Halo 3 ODST cinematic
http://www.bungie.net/Onlin...

Halo 3 ODST in-game screenshot of the same room
http://www.bungie.net/Onlin...

[SaberEdge]

Ultimately there is no reason to argue it. Halo Reach is an exceptional looking game and you are either going to acknowledge that fact or deny it because it clashes with you sense of allegiance to a particular console.

[SixZeroFour]

dont get me wrong, im not trying to downplay what was in the trailer, it was visually stunning...i was just talking about the lack of action

and yes...ill say it again, i cant wait for this game to come out...im a big halo fan (not fanboy ;P) and still looking for every bit of info i can

btw...did you guys notice the halo 1(i think) pistol on his right thigh or the new br/assault rifle with scope on his back :D i cant wait long enough :(

edit: @below...fans are always class act, its the fan"boys" that arent lol

btw, is that john117? i keep looking for a call sign on his armor like the rest, but cant see it...now im waiting for the "in depth look" vids of this trailer...ahahah

[Strikepackage Bravo]

how laid back you all are about this, do you guys not realize these are the best graphics ever on a game console!?!?

sure the colors are not artificially over saturated Uncharted style, but the look and weight of the characters remind me of my Wall-e Bluray!
This is incredible, yet you guys are just like, hmm looks good...

If this was a PS3 game PS3 fans would be claiming victory over the universe, and gloating like a bunch of boorish 12 year olds LOL.

You 360 fans are a class act, very mature bunch I must say.

[commodore64]

I agree Strikepackagebravo.

Were this a ps3 trailer, we'd never hear the end of it from the Sony attack force.
I did note that there have been quite a few of them downplaying the quality even in this very thread... it's so sad.

Halo Reach looks to be astounding and will push the 360 to new heights.
The game is still a year away and this is very likely what actual gameplay will be like... probably better!
Great News for gamers.
Bad news for haters.

Halo Reach will no doubt also set sales records.
But does that matter?

[NickIni]

It certainly looks good, but it's not jaw dropping like U2/KZ2 were. Although you could put that down to having seen graphics of a similar standard to this in those two games.

But, this is a cinematic. I'm reserving my opinion on it's graphics until we see some actual gameplay footage, but never the less, the certainly looks very promising indeed. Cheesy, but promising.

You can't deny this game looks very good, but best looking console game based on a cinematic is jumping the gun.

[Strikepackage Bravo]

First off Killzone2 had nothing on these graphics, KZ2 was the most graphically over hyped game ever, the graphics in that game were not nearly as great as you PS3 fans claimed.

As for Uncharted, that game is indeed great looking, but it looks like a popup book, nothin in it actually looks real, just very bright pretty and 3Dish, kinda like Kameo was on 360. What makes REACH look better is the fact that the characters actually look like solid hard objects. Like I said its Wall-e'ish, Reach just looks more real, and they don't use bright colors to fool the eye, pretty graphics and realistic graphics are two different things.

Note: by Wall-e graphics I mean Wall-e himself not Eve, LOL she looks a lil more cartoonish.

[Menech]

Sorry if you download the 720p version from bungie's website, and have a monitor with a big enough resolution to not compress it. They graphics in the game clearly give KZ2 a kick in nuts. Maybe you want to take your goggles off but there are 10x more textures in the game then KZ2 ever had. The face of the commander was insane quite similar to Mass Effect face's which are awesome as stated above.

Sure there hasn't been any gameplay footage. If it LOOKS better then KZ2 gameplay remains to be seen. But even if it doesn't its gameplay will simply blow KZ2 away Halo 3 already does. Anyone trying to compare KZ2 to Halo on a gameplay level is wasting there time Halo has completely superior gameplay. The number of people playing it online 2 and a half years after release speaks for its self.

And you have to remember you cannot compare UC2 And Halo Reach since UC2 uses set piece's Halo Reach does not so even if Halo Reach ends up being a little worse visually that doesn't mean its not a more powerful game. This footage alone already completely lays waste to any claims the 360 is maxxed out.

[heroprotagonist]

We can't make any final judgments as to the quality of the graphics until we see full blown gameplay video, but I'd say that based on what we have seen here Halo Reach is easily among the console graphics elite.

Edit @ guy above

That's true. Uncharted 2 is a very linear game compared to Halo. I don't know why people never take that into consideration.

[Jeromejones]

I still cant understand what the fuss is about in terms of Reachs visuals. I have watched the teaser like countless times trying to understand how this game is so superior visually to KZ2/U2, im trying to really look hard and find whats so impressive and yet I still dont see it.
Is it an impressive looking game? Definately, a big step up from previous Halo iterations, lighting is of top notch quality no doubt

Does it live up to the fanboys arguements here of obliterating anything seen on console? Hell no!

It still baffles me how people are hyping this trailers graphics relentlessly. I think its just all the hype has suckered people into believing something amazing was gonna be shown, and since it wasnt they feel speaking and telling people how great it looks is going to somehow make up for it and live up to that hype

Dont get me wrong, im still looking forward to this and getting it day one

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

The Cinematic trailer looks beautiful indeed, and if you guys noticed I am very much excited for this.

But seriously, you guys must be a tad daft. This is a cinematic trailer. Not actual in game footage.

They're using the game engine to make it the best they could, if you notice, there is no action going on. So reserve your judgement of the game's graphics until we see some gameplay.

Until then, you guys are talking out of your asses.

I'm siked that there's no Masterchief though. The Fall of Reach is an amazing book, and hopefully they incorporate that good storyline into the game.

[Traveler]

You guys aren't being fair. I remember getting excited with the rest of you over the cinematic trailer for Uncharted 2 last year. We all praised the graphics and said how amazing it looked, so why can't 360 owners react the same way?

It uses the game engine and it looks amazing, so why can't people get excited about that?

[Menech]

No ones even saying it's obliterating anything seen on the PS3. Even the 360 fanboys ain't immature enough to use that argument. Shame the same can't be said about the PS3 crowd act coy all you want you all know its true. If visuals are everything explain how the Wii is completely destroying the PS3/360.

They are saying this game is better looking the KZ2 which is true unless your somewhat blind. No ones saying it looks better then UC2 I honestly don't think it does but there different games thus cannot be compared. Resident Evil 2 looked far ahead of its time on the PS1 because it used set pieces and had terrible gameplay. (not that uncharted has bad gameplay) but Set piece games are much easier to make visually superior to none linear FPS's like Halo.

So you cannot compare UC2 to Halo Reach and no one was stupid enough to do so until the insurance Sony fanboy's raided this thread. Its happening all to often lately 360 fans can't even look forward to one of there favourite games without some D-head coming in with a list of What PS3 games look better. Notice how they can never say what play better though? And the Wii proves gameplay is more important then graphics.

Edit: I stand mistaken lowcarb just lowered the tone of this thread with his complete and utter nonsense. I though 360 fans had a little more bout them...

[lowcarb]

Did 360 just pass PS3 in visuals? 1st Alan Wake blew me away as the best thing visually and now reach has done it again. You can tell this is in game especially when your facing the Warthog before getting out. These are the best graphics on consoles to date and with a year left in development the visuals are sure to improve even more.

Edit above: "No ones even saying it's obliterating anything seen on the PS3. Even the 360 fanboys ain't immature enough to use that argument."

And your speaking for who again? Get off the 360 fans should be happy with what there getting sympathy speech. This looks jaw dropping and I have every right to give my fair opinion.

@ hellsangel: I know it's not gameplay but it's a indication of just how good the game will look if not better.

edit above: "I stand mistaken lowcarb just lowered the tone of this thread with his complete and utter nonsense. I though 360 fans had a little more bout them"

Why are you here anyway? I never once entered an UC2 or KZ2 thread talking down on them for making claims on 360. Now we have another game (Alan Wake) that gives PS3 a run for the money and you can't take it lol. This is 360 news and I will share my excitement in 360 threads. if you don't like then get out or take your denial speeches to the open zone that way.>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

@Traveler

I don't believe I ever once commented on Uncharted 2's visuals back when the trailer came out.

Edit:

@lowcarb

Don't be an idiot. This is using the in game engine, not actually in game.
Thus said, the graphics may indeed be this good.

Edit 2:

@Menech

If you ask me, it would have been all fine and dandy had some comments such as Strikepackage Bravo's and Commodore's bring up Ps3 games. If you want to blame anyone, blame them first.

[Menech]

@Hellangelzx
Don't play dumb look at all the stealth disagree's tuglu_pati got for saying something as innocent as,

One word to describe this,

Impressive!

There where no stealth disagrees when all the PS3 fans where raving about uncharted 2. Play coy all you want we both know who the bad eggs on this site are.

Update: Yeah and again I don't remember any of them bitter fanboys in the Uncharted 2 threads. Everyone generally just agreed it was a great game. If you mention Halo or any 360 game on this site though and say anything remotely positive about it you get hit with a toon of debubbles and disagrees.

People with the most bubbles round here are the guys that go into 360 threads say 1 good thing about a game then write a huge comment below it about how they had 52 RROD's this year. But there still be getting the game regardless of how crap and worthless the 360 is.

No It wasn't directed at you I was simply pointing out what a joke PS3 fanboy's have made N4G lately. 360 fanboy's can't even enjoy there own game articles without PS3 fans diving in with alot of negativity. And no it doesn't happen much at all the other way around although the PS3 crowd like to claim it does.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

If you notice, everyone is getting stealth disagrees in this first comment chain.

The only ones that aren't are the ones who posted below us.

You realize that it's just bitter fanboys in this first comment chain disagreeing with each other correct?

Edit:
Okay, other than what I have been saying towards the blatent assumptions in this thread, look through my entire comment history. Have I ever once said anything remotely bad about the 360 and 360 games?
No I haven't. I play both consoles equally. I don't diss them in anyway. So if that comment was directed at me, that's my rebuttal.

[NickIni]

Please actually read what I said. Show me where in my comment I said it didn't look good, or that Uncharted 2 or Killzone 2 looked better.

All I said was that I was reserving my full opinion until we see some gameplay, and that the graphics didn't make my jaw drop like U2/KZ2 when I first saw them, due to how visuals have improved since they were first shown so having graphics like this isn't as shocking. And you're calling me a fanboy?

I love how you can't have an unbiased opinion on here without morons throwing a tantrum and calling you a fanboy :')

[beans]

Looks promising! I wonder if the game will have mmo elements. Next year is going to be so incredible for gamers as a whole.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

@Menech

I'm not sure if you were a part of this site a year back, or longer than that, but it used to be the exact opposite way around. Say one thing positive about the ps3 ,and the next day you would have gone down about 2 bubbles.

However, you are correct, the trolling is a bit too much in these threads.

[7thNightvolley]

I said this ... b4 to u ps3 fannies.. do not underestimate the 360 ... now u see y i said so... REACH is SICK in every word... and this is one reason i say so...

1 the graphics is clearly .. OMG.. not to mention its an open world sort of game where u are not bound to one singular play route u can do what ever so far u can get from point A to B if u want to use a ghost up to u ur feet up to u, a mongoose up to u... or a tank ur choice .. no one is holding ur hand ...

2. halo is always knws for COOP and as for reach u can expect nothing less than 4 player coop i might be 5 the way things are looking .. not the games u guys hold so dear dont even carry coop in the campaign .. yes i am looking at u KZ2 .. as for uncharted2 its a really tightly scripted game so no openness to see flaws.. if u get what i mean..

3 halo has custom maps.. and all.. gezz ..this is just plan sick..

FOR all u who say .the 360 is maxed out .. how do u feel now.. pretty stupid i bet.

[DatNJDom81]

but to say it passed PS3 is jumping the gun a little dont you guys think? Im not a Halo fan, but I must give credit where credit is due. This game looks damn good graphically. Now my question is the following: is this in game engine? if it is then DAMN! it looks real good!

[green]

Read my last comment above. What you see in the trailer is what the game will look like when you are controlling the character.

@ below: That is guerilla games and not bungie so just because GG used pre rendered assets does not mean that Bungie is doing the same. Bungie have never ever lied about what in their cinematics, teasers or trailers is touched up, in game graphics or CGI. If you go to Bungie.net, they have confirmed this video to be the opening cinematic for Halo Reach which is completely represntative of the quality of the in-game graphics just like the screenshots i posted above.

What i even find baffling is that the Halo haters criticized Bungie for not pushing the hardware enough - and now that they're doing it, the same people are saying it's a trick?

@ BELOW: Why dont you go any Halo CE,Halo 2, Halo3 or Halo 3 ODST and point out which cinematic in any of those games was not 100% in-game graphics?Until you can do that, your argument is completely baseless.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

@Green

I'll believe that once I see gameplay of some sorts. Until then, this is a very good looking cinematic trailer using the in game engine.

Basically, what it reminds me of is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

As you can see, it's using the in game engine, but it's still a cinematic trailer.

Edit:
@Green

I love how I always get singled out as a person who criticizes Devs like Bungie, yet I've never done anything of the sorts.

As I said, they GG used the in game engine to make that Trailer. As with Bungie, they used the in game engine to make their trailer also. It's representative of the engine, but that doesn't mean that's the exact same graphics we're going to be getting in game. Is it that difficult to comprehend?

[TheDeadMetalhead]

I'll wait for some actual gameplay, but right now...It doesn't seem to look much better than Halo 3. Plus, it's pre-rendered, so there's no way to tell if the game will really look like that or not.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

@Green

Now you are being a fool. This game is Halo Reach, not ODST, not Halo CE not Halo 2, not Halo 3.

This is Halo Reach. We have not yet seen gameplay from the game, so we cannot tell if this is the exact same graphics we shall be seeing while playing in the middle of firefights.

It's not hard to make a base camp and make it look real pretty with some troops around. Wait until we see some action going on, then we'll be able to say if these graphics are the greatest on a console yet.

[TROLL EATER]

wooow the graphics will get even better come release. halo reach will own 2010

[Nikuma]

Wow, looks really good. Disappointed there was no action in the trailer but oh well...it'll come in time. Graphics definitely set the bar for the 360. It's tough to say weather I'll look better than KZ2 from what little we've seen though. Character models in KZ2 are obviously superior, but Reach could give it a run for it's money everywhere else. Time will tell. :D

[7thNightvolley]

for those who have a 360 go download it from the game video marketplace.. its even awed me even more.. gezz its sick... to watch it on ur hd tv.. F***ing HELL.

[7thNightvolley]

LET NO SDF EVER SAY THE 360 IS WEAK...NEVER!!! should we ever here that statement again... IF U DO.. U SURELY WITHOUT A SLIGHTEST DOUT I TOTAL A**H*LE WITH THICK FANBOY GOGGLES of stupidity..(pardon my french)...

now i bet that cheap ass console is more than a bargain huh...lol

[pain777pas]

I've downloaded the trailer and can see that this looks like a good looking Halo game. This better that KZ2 thing though... needs to stop. Its about even with Resistance 2 with some great cloud effects. I am sure it will play great with the elites as antagonists and all that hopefully no flood in this version they are annoying. I am getting exited but I have a feeling this is going to come out of the oven way too soon just like Batman AA 2. I really would like the game to be good not just a better looking Halo game cause that means that your getting a Halo game a year will get Call of duty5 like campaign and a phenomenal online multiplayer which is well and good but I would be annoyed if its the same old game unless its third person or something and changes the game completely.

[3sexty rulzzz]

it only makes all the sense in the world. Lekgolo
December 14th, 2009 at 10:26 am
"Sorry but this is really the most stupidest ps3 fanboy argument ever made. Maybe if you actually knew your information on CG and real-time rendering, could you have made a valid argument. Killzone 2’s lighting systems are completely done by illuminate labs. See here: http://www.illuminatelabs.c... So saying that bungie is actually using illuminate lab’s lighting in halo’s rendering system? I don’t think so. Second of all, the real time character lighting systems is done by a shader process called Point Lighting. The effects of point lighting can be seen here. http://brooknovak.files.wor...
Something that bungie has mastered since halo 3. Killzone 2’s real-time lighting systems uses the oldest form graphics computing on a count of ps3’s limited graphical processing. And guerrilla games seem to enjoy covering them up with a barrage of pixel shaders to make things seem “pretty”. As for your argument on the blurry textures. It is a method called dithering. All ps3 games have this too. And killzone 2 has an extremely large amount of blurry textures, that are covered up by having grainy noise textures and vignetting. Snap out of this ps3 fanboy act of yours and learn your sh!t before you start spitting out this crap."

[Ownejj]

Game looks amazing im sure like always they will make it amazing.

[blue7xx7]

Wow the game looks amazing in HD definitely a huge improvement over Halo 3.

[beans]

Can't waitto see gameplay.

[Ldubbz]

I first saw this in shoddy SD quality, but the HD straight from Bungie is pretty incredible. It obviously looks ridiculous, but its such a tease, as we all want to see some actual action.

Bungie is notorious for not showing any gameplay for Halo games right up until before release, and this probably wont be any different...tho we may get lucky and they may leak some more stuff here and there.

Im actually more interested in seeing what changes they may have made to the battle system...Im hearing the rumor is the BR has iron sights. Also interested in seeing what the squad play will be like.

EDIT: And ignore the "Duplicate Story"reports; those stories linked to the vid from the VGA's, not the actual Bungie vid. And this is from another story that site with the other Halo vid has up on the front page right now...

"Immediate reactions to the trailer released at the 2009 Spike VGA's are that fans are not overwhelmed by the graphics of Reach. Although pretty, the question has got to be asked : Is Halo: Reach using a new engine?"

Seriously? "Fans are not overwhelmed?" Thats pretty terrible writing, but besides that what did you gauge that from? What reactions? The vid JUST premiered! Please...such BS, we all know its a new engine and its quite evident. Of course it still looks like Halo, its HALO.

[no_more_heroes]

that's why I approved it.

[jdktech2010]

by the way, gametrailers has it in HD too and it's obvious jump over previous versions so feel free to check it out

http://www.gametrailers.com...

Just sharing the wealth....lol

[Ldubbz]

Share it brother! I happened to link to this vid from a live tweet update on Google...I had never even seen those before...lol.

I checked GT first, but they didnt have anything...I think they put it up right as I posted this. I just want people to see it how it was meant to be seen, no fluff.

[BWS1982]

is available "in HD" that's the first one I watched of it, and I know I watched their HD one. But the one off Bungie's site is leaps and bounds better. The size difference should tell you that. The Bungie site offers a version more than double the file size, and I watched the GameTrailers one and THEN watched Bungies...let me tell you, the Bungie one makes the GT one appear in SD, even though it's "High definition"....

Don't judge the GT one, judge the Bungie one, by far the best one. 125 MG vs. 58 MB...you can tell right there there's a difference. The GT one is compressed, and artifacts are obvious, even in their "HD" one.

[Zishyfish]

I reserved my judgement for Halo: Reach until a higher quality video surfaced, and I'm glad I did. This looks fantastic if in fact it uses the in-game engine as Bungie proclaims. On a side note, check out that new Mass Effect trailer :D

[bujasem_89]

wont make it not suck seriously how can they pride themselves on this??

its totally beyond me

jump off, out and never fall back in that pitt

[shutupandplay]

Lol. Look at you on damage control, get em` tiger. Anyway, this looks great, now way to spin that.

[el zorro]

What a moron. IF you think it sucks why are you here?

The truth is you know it looks amazing and that is why it threatens you so much.

[starchild]

The question is, how can YOU pride yourself on such a stupid comment?

[bujasem_89]

Damage control !!! seriously ?? this trailer was hyped to no end geof said biggest game of 2010 on that ,

ok so if i only am on damage control please i implore u tell me how this looks better than kill zone and uncharted??? , most of what i see are splashes ,

thank god they finally decided to insert some details into their faces but honestly thts it ???

all fanboyism aside graphically this is nothing special , but who knows mayb the gameplay is good :)

[starchild]

It does look better than Killzone 2 and lots of people all over the net are commenting on that.

How can you expect for anybody else to explain away your blindness for you? If you can't see it, you're blind.

Edit: you're the only joke. PS3 fanboys on N4G have become the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Your delusion and rabid fanaticism is unrivaled. It does look better than Killzone 2 from what we have seen so far.

[Mo0eY]

AHA. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This bot said Halo Reach looks better than Killzone 2, LMAO. And it looks like others are saying it as well. AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA. OMG, keep these jokes coming folks. My sides are cracking.

Edit 20 minutes later:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAhAHA, I'm DYING.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Poor droids you can't hide that stiffy in your pants. BTW I thought Killzone 2 graphics couldn't be done on 360? LOL here it is looking better than Killzone 2... poor droids.

[Profit Lost No Games]

Disappointment to say the least, looks like Bungie will never learn how to impress visually & the funny part is this game might run in sub-HD resolution...

@ Jason 360...

Please my insides hurts please stop!

Oh well back to Uncharted 2 (GOTY 09) MP.

[Socrates]

Pfft! oh puhlese, like you ps3 fanboys would ever admit to being impressed by any 360 game.

You go play Uncharted 2 like a good little boy. At least that game really is a good game and I have no trouble admitting it. Too bad you guys miss out on so many good 360 games.

[The Creep]

Halo Reach says hi

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http://i45.tinypic.com/241o...

http://i162.photobucket.com...

http://www.readyuplive.com/...
(look at how the dashboard illuminates on to the spartan)

http://www.readyuplive.com/...

http://www.readyuplive.com/...

http://www.readyuplive.com/...

Im talking to the ps3 fanboys not the ps3 fans that are true gamers just the negative idiots

[Xbots]

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[2-oj]

what a piece of sh!t so much for kz2 killer.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Last three comments ^^^^ above are the same guy. You must be desperate for this game.

[WildArmed]

the still images really show how much improvement was done. It was hard to spot on a crappy youtube video with people screaming in the back lol

Looks like this time Reach is going to focus on team play. (note: he says no more lone wolf stuff etc etc).
Really looking forward to some game play and see how it runs.
Bungie didn't disappoint when they said they were going to use a new engine.

[Kevin Butler of Sony]

Hmm. Looks almost as good as Killzone2.

[talltony]

You are a fanboy, how can anyone honestly think that? You guys probably havent even kz2 at a friends house. You freakin fanboys are oh so sad!

[TheDeadMetalhead]

Pre-rendered trailer w/ Halo 3 graphics = Killzone 2?

[Arnon]

Absolutely gorgeous. Do we actually need proof now to show that this is a huge leap?

[Arnon]

I guess we do.

http://i162.photobucket.com...
http://i162.photobucket.com...
http://i162.photobucket.com...

[Arnon]

We have also been confirmed that this is real time footage of the game. Scroll down to Shishka's post (Who is a Moderator)

http://www.bungie.net/Forum...

[i3eyond the Circle]

I want more!

Look when he pulls up in the Warthog.

The Blue Hue from the monitor on the dashboard emits in the car.... that is pretty impressive.

I'm anaylyzing this trailer piece by piece.

[Xi]

there's artifacting on the wing when it moves in for the shot of the spartan filling the sniper mag (00:53 you can see the effect crawl along the wing), and also on the far left light as they exit out the trailer (01:27 far left yellow light).

On the far side of his leg (00:15 far left of screen) there's some strange texture pulling, it looks as if the models are being either tessellated or they're heavily parallax map.

all of which would be edited out for a pre-rendered scene.

also looks like they're using a new texture streaming method.

[Richdad]

Actually a lot of games are now using texture streaming methode best example from MS are Forza 3 & Gears 2 and xbox 360 multiplat RE5, AC1, AC2 and many games use it.

BUt when we are using huge open world environment of Halo the compression tecnique needs to be very effective i.e very high compression but still has good quality. Thats basic problem why Halo 3 didnt looked that good. As I think.

Also it seems they are using deffered shading in the game too. It is no myth now aka Killzone 2.

[imnotgoodtenglish]

finnaly a game for the 360 after geOW 2 that shows impressive graphics.

[shutupandplay]

I`m liking the dark, gritty atmosphere.

[lokin]

gritty, dark... exactly what I was getting from footage. I can not wait

[Demon5500]

Well Time will tell, and there is still a few months to go but I still think this trailer could have been done better, I do hear the sony SDF have there say, and some of it is fair, but this game is better in game, they should have just walked out with a controller and played 5 mins of it just to prove it is really amazing in game so it is a little bit disappointing to hear people bag it out, but at the same time if they are not going to show controller in hand game play, then they cant expact people fanboy or not to truly believe what they have accomplished, The elite at the end of the trailer is 100% in game Fp view visual quality, but they could have showed the helmet head view from the spartan, it would have put this debate to bed but keep your mind open, A few other devs share there same opinion on here all ready with me, It was all about effects the pc devs know what we mean and the scale, wait till digital foundry's video analysis also there is some interesting things they are going to tell you, 8/10 :)

[jdktech2010]

there will always be criticism and doubts....and some of that is fair and justly founded.....But once more things come out in Jan (think there is an embargo until then), we'll see.....if there's a small visual downgrade, I'll still be interested in buying it because I enjoy the way Halo plays more than it looks so far.

I didn't buy ODST because of a lack of content more than the gameplay being bad because it was the same great shooting that I've come to expect from Halo. I'm also interested in what they do with the multiplayer as well because they have to improve on it (hard to do) or at least try for me to justify spending 65 bucks on it but I've got a lot of faith in Bungie.....

There are a few game companies I have no doubts about and will buy just about anything they make (if story interests me).....Bioware and that's about it actually....but Bungie is the next tier where I have a lot of faith in them and only need to see a few things to get it to buy status and if the graphics stay similar, that checks off one of those things.

Anyway, can't wait for more info and video to drop early next year

[green]

My fear with the improvement in graphics would be that it will have one dominant colour palette (green or gray) like some other graphically impressive games because colour is one big part of the halo universe. Bungie you have really delivered this time around.

[ChanDangle]

I'm more interested in seeing actually gameplay than an in game cut scene. The game definitely improved in graphics.

I wonder when MS is gonna stop beating Bungie like a dead horse and give us something fresh.

[darkequitus]

Don't you keep up with anything? If you did, you would know
1.this did the last Halo game Bungie is contract to do.
2.Bungie have said they are working on new IP.
3. MS has only a minor stake in Bungie making them masters of their own destiny.

Sort of invalidates you statement does it not!

[ChanDangle]

My apologies, I don't usually consume myself into everything that's in the industry but I'll believe it when I see it though. cheers.

[peowpeow]

Wow, what a MASSIVE change in comments.

Where is everyone claiming this is the same Halo we've seen in 2,3 and ODST.

I also waited for a HD video and all I can say is WOW. I'm a fan of halo too so yeah :P

[Sarcasm]

Why not? It is what it is. A clear upgrade from ODST and Halo 3.

[badkolo]

impressive indeed

[Jimis78]

we haven't seen the true power of the 360 yet. halo reach and alan wake are coming...it's not only the hardware that counts. it's a game's engine too and the way it uses the hardware. let's wait and see. i think 2010 will be a great year for xbox360...

[el zorro]

Indeed. Halo Reach tops everything I have seen before. I don't even have to worry about the gameplay, since with Bungie that is a given.

[Torkith]

Really? I think Splinter Cell: Conviction looks better. Don't get me wrong the character models are damn top notch, but the environment (though we haven't seen much at all) was pretty lacking. I would most likely place Uncharted 2 over this as well.

But that's the thing though, Halo doesn't have to boast great graphics to be good, it's always been good. So when great graphics get added into the mix, then damn, you've got a nice game for sure.

[The Creep]

@ torkith

you would really place uncharted 2 over this

http://i162.photobucket.com...

http://i45.tinypic.com/241o...

[Torkith]

... uhh yeah...

http://images.eurogamer.net...

http://i33.tinypic.com/2lxg...

http://freestylelance.files...

[SaberEdge]

Those are some great screen shots from Uncharted 2 (ah the memories), but they still don't look better than Halo Reach. Are you sure you know how to judge graphics?

[Torkith]

Maybe not? The details in Drake's face are unparalleled imo. Drake's also moving in this screenshot while the Spartans are not, I dunno. I think it looks better, maybe I'm wrong. I'm not here to say anything bad about Halo Reach, I think it looks amazing. That screenshots of the Spartans inside is pretty jaw-dropping, but I don't think the Warthog + Exterior shot looks all that amazing.

I wouldn't mind if you can toss some details at me as to why it looks better? Sharper textures? Better lighting? Thanks.

[Arnon]

I agree with you on that, and I'm the one rooting for Halo: Reach. In my eyes, the character facial detail of Uncharted 2 is it's most prominent feature. It has a great art style to it. Judging on character facial models, I'd place it like:

1. Uncharted 2
2. Halo: Reach
3. Killzone 2

For consoles. However, Halo: Reach still has a good 9-10 months of development to go through, so who knows how it will look by then. Also, I feel the overall detail of the Spartan armor in itself is more intriguing than the clothing in Uncharted.

[proudly_X]

maybe the extra one year before release could be help with improvements.
Otherwise it looks so fake! M sorry if i offended anyone, just spoke my mind.
Thank you!

[jdktech2010]

sigh.....guess you're entitle to your opinion even if it's completely off base

PS2 game....this isn't Stevie Wonder is it? (too low? it's borderline when I typed it)

[el zorro]

Sure thing buddy, no problem. But honestly you must have the mind of an imbecile to think that. It's like trying to claim Uncharted 2 looks like a PS1 game and then just fall back on the whole "well, it's my opinions so you gotta respect it". Sorry pal it doesn't work that way. Your opinion has to have some sense to it to be respected.

Anyone with eyes can see that Halo Reach is a graphical beast.

[kasasensei]

The future reference for the genre. :D

[proudly_X]

you are just a moron for making that statement..
Did you see the face of the characters?
is that the best Bungie can show? For GOD'S sake, Xbox360 is 4yrs old and it can't bring out a game that would be jaw dropping.
listen, my jaw didn't move at all, i even ended the trailer before it ended, cos it was ... no comment!

[Dutch Boogie]

I agree man. The trailer was totally underwhelming. Until i see better in-game videos my judgement stands the same.

[awesomeperson]

Especially since it didn't even seem to be gameplay, which means actual gameplay would probably be even worse graphical wise.

So, the people who were sayign Halo Reach would blow me away graphically?

[starchild]

Seriously STFU you mindless droids. If you can't see that this:
http://www.gamersyde.com/po...
http://i162.photobucket.com...
http://i258.photobucket.com...
http://i162.photobucket.com...
http://i45.tinypic.com/241o...
looks better than Killzone 2, then you are hopelessly lost in your own fanboyism and nobody can help you.

[WildArmed]

Though it doesn't look good as Killzone 2, the trailer was highly impressive. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to revise what it means to be a gamer.
This was just to show off the ingame engine. And assuming this game launching fall '10, they have alot of time to work on it.

[TheDeadMetalhead]

"If you can't see that this looks better than Killzone 2, then you are hopelessly lost in your own fanboyism and nobody can help you."

"hopelessly lost in your own fanboyism and nobody can help you"

OH THE IRONY.

[Xi]

some people i guess will never be impressed because it looks like cg to everyone else.
http://i45.tinypic.com/241o...

(look under his arm, more artifacting, how is this not real-time?)

http://i258.photobucket.com...

[darkequitus]

You should see some of the people on Bungie.net, demanding Bungie to admit the teaser was pre-rendered Lol.

http://www.bungie.net/Forum...

So, you have people saying:
1. It was pre-rendered, Lol
2. Looks like Halo 3, Lol
3 Not impressive as it is on the 360 and not PS3

Sorry, but I have high hopes for this game SC:C and AW; just as I did for UC2 and was not disappointed (on 3rd go round)

[green]

Read the comments on the forum and its quite hilarious seeing people get pissed because they feel it was pre - rendered. All Halo games made by Bungie if i can recall have always used the in game engine for their cinematics. So there is no reason to not believe that when you control the character, it won't be exactly the same.

I am sure Bungie will be so happy that people think the video was pre-rendered.They can now sleep easy.

[Ldubbz]

Is one helluva drug! There is no denying that those are easily some of the best gfx seen yet for a console game, and Bungie has certainly stepped their game up on this one.

Those screenshots are just crazy. Im sure this gaame will probably locked at 30fps...but one can hope for 60fps! If they could produce those visuals with fast 60fps COD-like butter smoothness, it would just be too much.

One can dream...

[starchild]

I'll admit that when I first saw it I was a little disappointed. Not because it didn't look amazing, but because I thought "oh damn, they're just doing a prerendered CG video". I really thought that. Then I started to notice all the telltale signs of real-time rendering and that is when my jaw hit the floor. For the life of me I can't understand how anybody can look at those screen shots or watch that video and not be thoroughly impressed.

[Ichiryoka]

Before in the SD trailer I couldn't see the big deal. Now I see their vision.

Man wow this. game along side that Mass Effect 2 cinematic trailer will make me purchase an elite and not open it until Mass Effect 2 is released.

Ok seriously just wow.

[blu_yu_away]

But if you don't open it you won't be able to play the original Mass Effect. Unless you've already played on PC?

[Ichiryoka]

I've played Mass Effect and it was brilliant. An elite game such as

Mass Effect2 and Halo Reach should only be played on the best, an

Elite 360.

[ZombieAutopsy]

I WANT GAMEPLAY!!!

[durran3]

Very impressive Visuals.. definitely a big jump.. Great work bungie.. I already pre-ordered my collector's for Mass Effect 2 now bring on Conviction and Alan Wake

[eagle21]

Dudes walking around slow isn't a game. Gameplay please!

[starchild]

It shows what the engine can do, smart guy.

Did you say the same thing when the Uncharted 2 video was premiered on the VGAs last year that was in-engine but contained no gameplay yet people were saying how great the graphics were.

Well, this is the same thing. It shows no gameplay but it gives us an idea of what to expect. This in-engine cinematic looks miles better than the in-engine cinematics from Halo 3 or ODST. That's a fact. Which indicates that the in-engine gameplay graphics are also going to be a sizable step up from Halo 3.

[darkequitus]

Though UC2 turned out to be a great game, its reveal only showed a man kneeling in snow; far less than this reveal. Double standards.

[Jeromejones]

No doubt im looking forward to this game and its definately going to be the biggest selling game of 2010 but can someone please explain to me what is so graphically spectacular about this trailer?

Xbox fans are already claiming this to be superior graphically to Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 etc, but I just dont see it, tbh. The statement just seems forced from them, because everyone was so caught up in the hype.

Still it looks impressive and a big step up from Halo 3

[ZombieAutopsy]

they are xbox fans...they lie and say its the truth all the time...or maybe they are wearing HD GLASSES

[bujasem_89]

ill need those glasses to se how this is soo superior lol xD

[starchild]

No, the question should be turned back on you guys. Why don't you guys see that this is superior to Killzone 2? Do you guys not know how to judge graphics? Do you not know how to determine if one game has superior lighting, textures, shadow maps, texture filtering, and so on and so forth?

[odisho68]

Looks very promising...I have to admit I was a little disappointed with ODST so I'll have to wait to see if there are any major improvements gameplay-wise. With Crackdown 2, Mass Effect 2, Call of Duty (it's basically a 360 exclusive because of XBL) and Halo, next year is going to be a big one for Microsoft and maybe it's biggest yet. 2010 is looking to be a great and expensive year for all gamers.

[jerocarson]

i will never be deceived by hype again..
This was not what i expected.

[LEGENDARY PELON]

I was in complete awe the whole two minutes and half of this clip!

In not going to go to school wen the Massive Halo Reach title comes out!! Bungie you guys are the best at making video games! This can't be your last Halo game! You guys have millions of fans out their that want more Halo after Halo reach!!

[Alan Wake]

Halo Reach !!!!

i swear best graphics ever seen b4

in ur face Sony and CraoStation Fans

[jackalman]

debut trailer. I thought, "Wow!" Halo 3 is gonna blow us away visually and we all know how those lazy turds at Bungie let us down by giving us a Halo 2 HD game. If they at least come close to Killzone 2 or hell even Mass Effect's 2 quality graphics, then Ill be a little impressed. If they do better than Killzone 2, then I'll smash my Halo3 limited edition mask and eat the pieces like my Cheerios with milk.

[SDF Repellent]

I must say I am shock that those graphics are capable on X360. I know the in game First person view gameplay will be different (all FPS games look that way) but this game just scream 4-5 player co op with a little Modern Warfare are Rainbow Six thrown into it.

Excited is an understatement. I am willing to bet ODST might just receive a sale bump because of the incoming beta..let the hype train begin.

[Profit Lost No Games]

Looks almost as half good as Resistance 2.

[starchild]

Yeah right. Resistance looked about half as good as Gears of War. That must be what you are thinking of.

[horndog]

Third time watching this video, youtube doesn't cut it like the bungie video on their site. This game WILL live up to it's graphics hype if the gameplay actually looks like this. We know gameplay is going to be awsome its just a question of wether graphics will actually look this good during gameplay. Amazing video. Huge jump from Halo 3 and ODST.

If bungie lives up to this trailers i think this game will spank the crap out of everything next year. Instant 10mill seller and a contender for GOTY. Anyone denying this video is just jealous and insecured. If i was a ps3 only owner i would be bitter too after watching this video. This video just kicked 2010 into high gear.

[BreakNeckSpeed]

Yeah thats right waddle along

[Gobot]

bungie is still developing for the ps2?

[CaptainAmerica]

they never did you idiot, if your gonna troll do it right

[Gobot]

ever hear of oni? you f*cking 360wikipedia generation gamers are retarded

[CaptainAmerica]

lololololololol

[napoleon_ist]

it's 640p at best :)

[DJ]

Can't wait to see what Bungie pulls off this time around, especially with the improved art direction. =]

[starchild]

Yeah, the way Uncharted 2 had pretty good graphics considering it was a PS3 game.

I saw what you did there. Nice little veiled jab at the 360 and Halo Reach.

[DJ]

Halo Reach looks promising, and this is obviously real-time footage. Despite the fact that 360 exclusives aren't as impressive as PS3 exclusives, I still need to tip my hat to Bungie. I'm hoping that the gameplay has become more realistic. Killzone 2 vastly changed the playing field, and it will be hard for Bungie to ignore some of the innovations presented by that title.

If Halo: Reach has a cover system and solid bullet impact physics, it'll definitely topple Modern Warfare 2.

[commodore64]

Yeah i agree with starchild there,
UC2 was great considering it was a PS3 game.

I am impressed with what the UC2 developers achieved with the difficult ps3 architecture. I can only conjecture how much greater UC2 would have been as a 360 exclusive with so much developer talent.

This 'Halo reach' Trailer proves that the 360 can easily keep up with and exceed what has been presented on ps3.
It looks absolutely fabulous already and there is still a whole year of development time.

2010 really is looking great for the 360.
Who would have thought that four years after release, the 360 would still be setting the standard for us gamers?

What a great time to be a gamer.

[DJ]

Or has been doing for the past few years. But it's still good in its own right. We've gotten to a point in gaming history where pretty much every game looks good.

[Gobot]

people are already claiming this game is photo-realistic LOL
if people see p-realistic in this game, imagine what they would think about uncharted2 or crysis

[starchild]

What are you talking about? It looks better than Uncharted 2, so your question doesn't even make sense.

[chidori666]

poor bots, have only halo and nothing more..

[x-fix-x]

Bots comparing this game to Killzone 2. When Halo Reach is released Kilzone 2 has already been out for 1.5 year.

[WildArmed]

well, first you gotta catch up to killzone 2 then Uncharted 2.
But they seemed to skip MGS4 graphics on that one.. but it's ok.
Anywayz I hope to see K3 in '11 or '12. (i dont want them cranking out killzones every year.. thats just annoying)

[blackmamba707]

I saw Halo Reach with sick graphics and effects that rape Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 combined

...and then I woke up.

[WildArmed]

and yet your still sleeping o_O

[MajestieBeast]

looks almost as good as the resistance 2 cinematic with the chimera invasion the faces look like plastic if this was suppose to be big then wow...

[Socrates]

It has been confirmed--the droids need some upgrades. Especially in the area of visual perception. Sony needs to switch out those 1980s visual sensing devices with something more modern, something that can actually perceive more than 2 colors and see in 3 dimensions. Maybe then the droids can perceive what is right there staring them in the face.

[Tyre]

To see is to believe! Memexport and Hardware Tesselation at work!Microsoft always said they had enough head room in the 360...these graphics are truly impressive...hard to admit by all those PS Fanboys.
They are already trying to get over with those damage control messages about KZ3 and other bull.

[darkequitus]

Double standards. The UC2 reveal (great game by the way) Was of a guy, alone in a blizzard, Kneeling in snow; Depth of vision about 2 feet in front of your nose. However that reveal was OK because it was on the PS3.

I saw UC2 reveal, I said Impressive. Stopped there until the game came out an bought it. That is the sensible approach. But you get individuals like "one who say" who would criticizes any thing anything MS even if they cured cancer, such as they are. At least Saaking is being reasonable these days. Hopefully the rest would grow up.

[FragMnTagM]

Yeah, I too noticed Saaking being more mature. He is now the standard for how other PS fans should act. As for the 360 fans that act the same way grow up too! We are all gamers here and have one hell of a year coming no matter which side of the fence you lean.

[SDF Repellent]

Halo 3 only outsold KillOwned 2 and Notcharted 2 on NPD by a combined 6 or so millions with avg graphics.

Now imagine Reach with better graphics than KZ2 and UC2, and a larger install base and Microsoft marketing powess...PS3 in 2010 will be on life support...

Now imagine Gears of War 3 announcement at GDC 2010 with new unreal engine upgrade and Natal blowout at E3..this can be the end of PS3 for all we know.

As Nov NPD show, droids don't buy their own exclusives, and their 2010 Fall lineup has nothing left besides Afika 2 or Singstar vol.13.

[Profit Lost No Games]

We can all dream kid.

[SDF Repellent]

Hey, your user name is missing something, I'll fix it for you Free of charge.

Sony PROFIT LOST is 4.7 Billion and Droids BUY NO GAMES. FIXED

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Enjoy what??? ;-D

[XDF]

Agreed, how can PS3 fans enjoy games if they don't buy them.

I know the pain you are going through.

Please buy more games to support Sony. LMFAO

[XDF]

Ratchet Milking 13
Ninja Gaiden Rehash 2
Demon I am not Sold

It only sold one million in one month where it took inFamous 5 months to sell.

Heck, it sold one million faster than KZ2 did.

[Deadman64]

Sony fanboys being on damage control, spinning, and being very hostile for almost the next year.

[Snoogins]

I was very disappointed they didn't show actual gameplay, which will be indicative of how much they have improved over the predecessor. This is the only reason i watched that crap awards show. What was shown looked very nice, but it left me dissatisfied, hungry for me.

[Profit Lost No Games]

Welcome to 2007 Bungie LMAO! :D

[XDF]

Yup, it will be 2007 all over again for Bungie in 2010. Halo Reach will break records, shatter PS3 fanboys dream, and make them $$$$.

[Boatbird]

When the game comes out i dont think it will be this polished because every game that is said to have the best graphics in this generation still dont look completely perfect, they still have jags, popins, stiff animation, low textures and rough shadows. not disrespecting the ps3 and its games but this is just example, Killzone 2 and uncharted 1&2 look impressive but even those games aren't exactly perfect, they still show the limitations of the system but what im saying is that Halo reach will look good but it will have its differences from this trailer.
last example of what i mean is the e3 2k6 trailer for halo 3, they also said this halo 3 trailer was using their game engine(which it is)but comparing it to the final product it also had its differences.
aside from that i think they will do a good job on the multiplayer but i hope their story for it will be better then halo 3's.

[XDF]

With a vengence!

[Socrates]

I know. I can't wait.

[Droid Control]

Thats a really poor effort.

[XDF]

"BAD graphics, bad animation, bad voice acting, bad cut scene."

hmm, hmm, enough of Spider-Man 3, can we get back on Topic.

[Demon5500]

Well The sdf are spewing all types of hate on this game, I would step back and study the trailer, and on a hi def Tv or monitor. There is so much detail in this game and the Trailer is only a snippet of it in fact 2.30 mins worth. I would love Bungie to take one of you guys to there studio b were this game is getting developed and make you play and see it in action, you wouldn't be saying the things you are now.

This game looks miles better then killzone 2, have a look at the ground the sky the textures on the Spartan, the ray traced lighting is a step up that nobody new was possible till today on 360, The sky in this game is fully deferred rendered, yes same as killzone 2, and there is no draw in line in this engine you can see this and the lighting even effects the water snow on the mountain in the distance, The ground and surrounding and armor is full scale dx11 tessellation, have a look on the bumps the rocks they all stick out, the fog volumetric but still deferred and the lighting is full scale, not just singular, the attention to detail is second to none, there is no AA edges, and it is clear due to it being native "720p/1080p" but will let digital foundry show and tell you the truth, And any body who say the textures on the faces are less detail or quality then killzone 2 or uncharted 2/1 is fooling them salves as this is in game, not cgi and still 9/10 months to go see the dx 11 textures on the face with ray traced lighting even effect the eyes, not bad. The in game looks even better but it does feel a bit like codmw2 in passe and yes you can run this time around in fact you can take cover and crawl too, the beta will be out by feb/march you will see more then, I would make your final judgment based on in your hand control play time, I did with both kz2 and uncharted 2, and that is why I believe uncharted 2 deserved the game of the year, I have seen and sampled all three and reach is better by far, But reach is here to take on kill zone 3 that is a fair fight? and it should end the console fanboy war for some :)

[MajestieBeast]

Did you just say dirext X 11 gfx go wash your mouth with soap cause that looks like directx9 right there. The trailer looked crap and doesnt even come close to uncharted 2 or killzone 2 from the character animation to the enviroments it looks like resistance 2 quality nothing more a second generation ps3 title the ps3 is just more powerfull the sooner you can admit that the better. But hey we all know Crysis still beats em all but killzone 2 comes close.

[Socrates]

Not only does Reach look better than Killzone 2, but 95% of multiplatform games look better on the 360. Do you think that is just a coincidence or that it can all be written off to "bad porting"? Wake up!

If the PS3 really were more powerful don't you think at least one 3rd party developer would have been able to make an unquestionably better PS3 version of one of their multiplatform games? The Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 and it had absolutely no problem showing that fact, despite the fact that the PS2 had a much larger install base and was the first focus of most development studios. That's right, the Xbox was technically getting ports in many cases and they still often ended up looking better. Why can't the PS3 do it?

PS3 fanboys always run and hide behind exclusives because they know nothing can be proven through them since those games will never appear on the 360 console. You can say Uncharted 2 can't be done on the 360 because frankly Naughty Dog never will make Uncharted for the 360. This is why PS3 fanboys hide behind exclusives.

[Demon5500]

Well I am going to Have to work this around my NDA but here goes I need some body on here who can also post some pic's up just to prove to MajesticBeast That Halo reach is using full Direct x 11 class A Tessellation plus bump mapping, And ray traced lighting, Cos he does not get it, I can only take an extract from this document I can not leak the documents. I am also not shore if it has leaked, but I wont be putting up the full docs yet, and even this information will be stripped down but any body with C++ or development will be able to acknowledge this information as legit? . I can how ever put some things up that should make it easy to understand, from both sides, As some devs are sending stuff around with descriptions of what and how effects are rendered real time on the 360 GPU, sort of looks like them old style line based diagrams, but still cool and placed over Hi quality Halo reach renders too,

[B00M]

Why is everyone getting so excited about these graphics? Yes they do look good, but compared to todays standards which have been set by the likes of Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 I feel theyre nothing special. Maybe Ill be wowed with gameplay. Character models looks great, but apart from that it all just looks 'good'. Dont flame at me, just my opinion on it. Was never a fan of the Halo series though, thought Halo 3 sucked XD But this does look darker, and more like war. For some reason the graphics look similar to God of War 3, the landscapes that is. Especially the sky.

[DJ]

Everything you stated was true. Then again, some people will defend the Xbox 360's shortcomings to the grave, regardless of how bad it makes them look. So it only has a third of the power of PS3. Big woop. It's still a good gaming system.

[B00M]

Well I dont think it looks crap, just looks good.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

"PS3 fanboys always run and hide behind exclusives because they know nothing can be proven through them since those games will never appear on the 360 console. You can say Uncharted 2 can't be done on the 360 because frankly Naughty Dog never will make Uncharted for the 360. This is why PS3 fanboys hide behind exclusives."

You're just using that as an argument because You have no exclusives and all of your so called 'True Exclusives' that aren't available on PC look like PS2 tech demo's. HALO: Reeks doesn't even surpass Resistance:FOM let alone KZ2, MGS4 or Uncharted 1&2 you dumbass!

The lighting, Textures, Animations, Character modelling, Particle effects all resemble that of a last gen PS2 game (although MGS3 completely owns Reach). I think 'Spec Ops: The Line' looked really impressive and it takes a massive dump on Halo: Reeks.

HALO: Reeks sucks! get over it.

[SaberEdge]

Blind, blind fanboy. *shakes head*

[streety519a]

But whilst Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 have set the benchmark for console graphics they had very linear worlds and gameplay. Halo has always been about huge open worlds with vehicles and an ability to approach situations how you want. I also like the darker tone they are taking with the game, Halo 3 always seemed too bright and cartoony to me, still loved the game though. I can see Halo Reach and God of War 3 being my games of 2010 already.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Bungie.net video is AWESOME!! That's an awesome looking trailer. Remember those screenshots from awhile back claiming to be Halo Reach? Compare them, they look about exactly like what you would expect after watching this video.

[Munky]

Who do you think the "main character" is? I'm putting my bets on Jai from "Grey Team", either him or Kurt. Both were assumed to be dead before reached ever happened and that is why the rest of the Spartans didn't recognize him.

[mcgrawgamer]

or as he was called during the events of reach Spartan 117. If this is typical bungie which I'm sure it is, they'll stick closely to the novels, which should be a good thing. The halo novels were well written and Reach seemed pretty immersive in my opinion from reading the novels.

I was thinking of skipping reach, but if the gameplay can pull me like this cinematic did I might have to fire up the ole 360 once more.

[Munky]

Impossible, MC was never on the planet REACH during the battle, he was up in orbit to defend its power generators that powered the Orbital Magnetic Accelerator Cannon platforms. And also for the simple reason that all the Spartan II's were like brothers and sisters, they all grew up and trained together since they were 6 years old, so the fact that the rest of the other Spartan's did not recognize the "new guy" would point to him NOT being MC.

[Profit Lost No Games]

lol the bots will defend their little gaylo to death hahaha

[Deadman64]

Actually, there seems to be many more sony fanboys in the Halo:Reach articles. Which is actually kind of interesting. See Sony Fanboys claim the 360 has no games, yet they spend all day on here making those claims. And who is the first to the seen for Halo: Reach damage control?
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

Note the uhh 50 or so Sony Fanboys.

:) have a great Sunday!

[Horny]

It looks very nice, but I cant say that I am impressed. I dont really get impressed by graphics a lot, to me its more bout gameplay. Plus its hard to be impressed by a FPS once u played Crysis and Killzone2.

Anyways I have Halo 2,3,ODST, and will be purchasing Reach most likely. I have no doubt the game will be fun as hell but I really wish they would have showed some action or gameplay or something. This trailer is extremely boring and I dont see the big fuss about it. The best part about it was the elite at the end.
Looking forward to it though.

[bjornbear]

looks very nice indeed =)

However, is it just me or was that guy with the painted face clearly inspired by "Ghost" from MW2? =/

[Munky]

But i'm pretty sure that Bungie had the characters designs down packed way before MW2 was even released, so it's just a (very cool) coincidence. If you look closer you will notice that its not a print but it appears that he/she actually scratched the skull design out, probably with that knife he is sharpening during the vid.

Here is a link, the new Spartan's look crazy man!

http://i939.photobucket.com...

[Strikepackage Bravo]

This game certainly proves that the 360 is far from maxed out, Im confident the gameplay will look just like this video if not better.

Like everyone says you need to look at the full size HD version, its just breathtaking.

[Omega Zues]

I was hoping for a better trailer and agree with many that actually gameplay would of been delightful to see. The graphics are better then Halo 3 but not a huge jump. I just pray this time It will be in HD.

But theres always time to improve but I just hope they continue to show us more stuff through out the year.

[heroprotagonist]

I don't know which video you watched, but I'd say it is a huge leap in graphics over Halo 3.

[Jamaicangmr]

Wow! the reactions of some Xbox360 Loyalists are staggering. It really show's that they will praise anything with Halo on it. Lets assume thats cutscene was in engine ok fine. It looks much better than Halo 3 i can easily give it that. However interms of visual quality it's still a few bars below Killzone 2. Also maybe some of you should wait for actual gameplay before making such statements.

Remember KZ2 not only did pretty guns the character animations, explosions, bullet impact, death animation, lighting etc. These are some of the things that makes KZ2 so great. Now i don't know about anyone else but i saw nothing in that even looks on par with KZ2. Maybe we should wait to actually see something substantial before we go pounding our chests.

Nothice i didnt even mention Uncharted 2? That's a waist of time and just Xbox360 Loyalists deluding themselfs.

[SaberEdge]

Pot calling kettle black...
You sound pretty deluded yourself. Killzone 2 "several notches above" Halo Reach? Uncharted 2 even above that? What absurd statements. Some of you really are blinded by your loyalty to the PS3. I love my PS3, but I also love my 360 and I don't have any strong loyalty to bias me one way or another. If you can't see that Halo Reach is AT LEAST on par with the best looking games on both consoles then you are simply denying the obvious.

[Omega Zues]

I dont know what it is but trailer showed very little and the graphics were a minor jump. Gears still continues to be the best looking for the xbox.

and no, Killzone 2 still looks a world apart from Reach. Killzone 2 is far more graphically intense then what Reach showed.

[PtRoLLFacE]

lets just wait to see what HHG has to say about this, "sight"

[hamoor]

but i don't think kz2 is that fun
the gameplay is frustrating
no co-op
no split screen
campaign is boring like hell
the online is where the real deal is
am not a fanboy or anything but i think if kz2 have decent graphics no one would care about it and resistance 2 is better and i have enjoyed it more then i did in kz
on topic: i think 5 players co-op is gonna be epic
and yeah that spartan with the skull symbol on his helmet is looking badass!!!
cant wait for it

[bjornbear]

and wrong.

Graphics just added to the game, but they didn't make it

it would have been as great with or without the graphics.

[The real killer]

The bots are finely wake up and came out of their Halo hole.

Halo Reach is planned in 2010 fall. less than e year for release meanwhile those stupid BOTS comparing with 2 years old Killzone 2 graphics and visual.

Let me tell you one thing Halo fans, Halo Reach looks awesome than Halo 3 ODST that for sure, but beat Killzone 2 is a different story, Killzone 2 is a real war zone with many lichting effect and physics and all around on the screen action.

Further more, the Killzone 2 engine use only 55% of the raw power from the PS3, what we will see like Alan Wake, Halo Reach or Mass effect 2 is the limitation from the 360, still those are great games for the 360 or the PC with better grafics and visual.

Halo Reach will be awesome, but pass Killzone 2 no until they must limit the action on the screen to compromise the graphics and i still got my doubts if it beats Killzone 2.

[albert_275]

If anyone's going to compare the graphics of this cinematic, it should be compared to Halo 3 and ODST's cutscenes.

This cinematic = Halo 3 and ODST cinematics x 9000

Gameplay graphics = Halo 3 and ODST gameplay graphics x 9000

[The Holy Trinity]

There is no doubt that is real-time rendering. Bungie has even said so themselves.

But that one line got me pumped "no more lone wolf stuff outta you"...classic. after the spectacularly awesome ODST vid this year, u have to wonder what they have in store for this...and what about some natal head tracking...

[Matthew94]

there are so many

Grey
Gun Metal
Light Black
Metal

[B00M]

Good point streety, Halo levels are huge! I hope the story is more inspiring than Halo 3 though, which just dragged on forever XD

[dkgshiz]

Which is good.

[kosovo]

kugug

[xg-ei8ht]

I think some of it looks excellent, yes it's realtime, i'd like to see some gameplay etc.

[Azeris]

In HD it looks really good, when I watched SD I wasn't so sure. The thing I liked most about this though- it seems a little more mature, a little darker then the other Halo games. That I like. It just seems more realistic and weighted.

Reminds me of the Halo live action trailer, which was great.

[hamoor]

just like crysis is
its a decent shooter and hyped only for its graphics
and without it its just gonna be (another) fps game
so kz2 hyped for it graphics and without it its just gonna be another haze
resistance 2 should have that love instead kz2
but because it doesn't have kz2 graphics and that is unfair
and you say what have kz2 to do with this article???
well its like you ps3 fans bring UN2 in every xbox exclusive article so am just doing the same thing here

[Karum]

Looks very interesting also.

I still really want to see some game play though before getting really excited.

Most definitely promising though based on the video!

[Pixolator]

Just download and watched the video, and it looks awesome, but I'm a ps3 owner and not planning to get a xbox360 in near future, hope we could see similar or even better graphic quality on PS3 ex. games in 2010. And I'm glad that Bungie raises up the bar cause this will push the other developers on PS3 platform to make their game look better than before and at the end of the day us gamers will win.

[Karum]

Keep in mind that what you saw isn't actual gameplay footage. Sure it's footage generated in real time by the engine, which is fantastic because it really does look good but wait until you see gameplay before saying things like that. PS3 exclusive graphics such as KZ2 and UC2 have yet to be surpassed on consoles.

Still really looking forward to seeing gameplay footage though because this video is so very promising.

[wpggamer]

Can the 360 articles have a blocker on PS fanboys? This is just getting ridiculous. I am sorry, but nobody goes into PS articles just to bash. Or at the very least, it's a much much smaller percentage.

On topic:
Reach is looking great. I like to see some footage, but it just starts the hype train and waiting game up. Wish it would come out sooner. One year is a long wait.

[FrankDaTank]

This is what Halo 3 would have looked like if Microsoft didn't rush Bungie out the door and deliver a POS game to pad their numbers.

[Guitarded]

This looks way better than Halo 3, but it does not look better than Killzone 2. I read some posts referring to textures and lighting and other graphical features, but bottom line is Killzone 2 is more visually striking to me. I know I'm going to regret this post. Actually I've stated in other posts that I believed the PS3 to be slightly more powerful than the 360 if the publisher/developer can afford the extra cost of time and money to use it. This trailer confirms to me that my opinion has merit.

Having said that, these graphics with Halo gameplay equal an awesome game.

[Alan Wake]

Sony fan watch halo reach trailer more than Halo fans and xbox owners lolol

Just keep dreaming ps3 owners for this !

Only 360

[horndog]

this is the reason why ps3 exclusives don't sell and why the psn is boring. All the ps3 fanboys want to do is talk about xbox exclusives all day 24/7. Come on droids. GO BUY SOME GAMES FOR THE PS3. IT NEEDS YOUR HELP. ITS EXCLUSIVES ARE GETTING MURDERED. HAVE A HEART, ITS CHRISTMAS.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

Are You forgetting about what happened when FF13 lost it's exclusivity? because there were like over 200 360 nut huger's on that article and there were like 400 comments 350 of them coming from 360 f@ggots.

[The real killer]

And i see allot of 360 fanboys who claim that Halo Reach has better graphics and visual than Killzone 2, next time think before you answer like that.

PS: Keep paying to live, meanwhile i play for free poor sucker.

[iforgotmylogin]

mad halo fans
but it seems gears of warish

lets see where this goes

the vga lineups and wins this year were wack
mostly over hyped or over rated games that won. 2009 was underwhelming in terms of originality and such.

[Hayabusa 117]

I agree actually, it looks more and more like unreal tournament in terms of the art.

[Hayabusa 117]

Looks good, doesn't look like the best graphics ever. And no matter how much Bungie say it's all in-game engine, I won't believe until I see it on my own TV. Anyone remember the Halo 3 announcement trailer?

And overall, the trailer was dull and boring.

[umechumach]

Damn! This game looks fantastic and waaaaay better than Halo: ODST. In-game engine graphics look amazing, but they still need to show gameplay footage. Either way, Halo: Reach will be MIND BLOWING MAN! Cannot wait. Let the hype train roll baby! Chuga cho cho!!!! XD

[PandemicPrawn0]

I think the 360 just got a fresh set of legs.

[Figboy]

HD trailer off of XBLM and watched it on my 40" Samsung. i came away with these impressions:

1) It's most definitely quite a few steps up from Halo 3 and ODST.

i don't doubt that it's not using the in game engine, but it is a heavily scripted cutscene.

see Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time. the cutscenes are all rendered using the in game engine, the actual game play, while looking amazing, doesn't look nearly as good.

2) It does not match Killzone 2, or Uncharted 2. sorry, but it just doesn't.

it's the little things that Killzone 2 does that add a ton of atmosphere and immersion to the game that this trailer doesn't have. people that haven't played Killzone 2 are unaware of the sheer level of detail and technical know how that was put into that game and it's visual presentation. as such, most of it goes under-appreciated by the masses.

the Reach trailer is only a small portion of the game, however, and cannot be used to judge the entire package.

until we see actual game play (ie, running around a level, shooting enemies), i'm reserving judgement on the total package of Halo: Reach, but it most certainly looks more impressive to me than Halo 3 and ODST.

i do find it kind of ironic that it's using a more muted "realistic" color scheme, like another FPS title released in February this year that was panned for lacking color. i wonder if the same criticism will apply to Halo: Reach if the entire package happens to feature this design choice, or if that only applies to PS3 exclusives?

i'll be keeping my eye on this one. it could be the game that brings me back into the series (i wasn't a fan of Halo 2, 3, or ODST. i loved the first one, though).

[lowcarb]

Until we see footage we cannot say if Reach looks better than UC2 or KZ2. If the game looks as good as this video then it surpasses both of them.

[SaberEdge]

I agree that we won't know anything for absolute sure until we see actual gameplay, but that doesn't stop us hard core gamers from coming to some tentative conclusions. I agree with lowcarb that IF gameplay turns out to be fairly close to this cinematic then Halo Reach will surpass both Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2. I have been playing games since their inception and I have a strong technical background, so I have a very good grasp of what constitutes "good graphics". Halo Reach shows all the signs of having outstanding graphics.

[hoops]

You ARE VERY CORRECT IN SAYING WE CANNOT JUDGE FROM A TRAILER.
We have to wait for gameplay in game. However if this translate to gmeplay like these visuals, Halo REACH surpasses KZ2 and Uncharted 2 in terms of visuals If also Bungie can keep those masive open worlds and keep that level of visuals....then yes again it surpasses KZ2 and Uncharted 2

[Sevir04]

I have to say i'm impressed that bungie got an engine that can output quality graphics, it's very impressive and i was convinced the game will look great, But i have to say That visuals like this arent anything new, first off the opening cenematic of KZ2 and the Bullet trailer using nothing but KZ2's ingame gameplay engine Outclass this trailer. I wont even go into Uncharted 2, because while the Game sports top notch graphics it's in a different art direction and style.

I'll say this Halo:Reach Blows MW2's visuals out of the water, But this by far doesn't trump any of the Top PS3 exclusives, In fact in this genre, KZ2 stands at the top, with it's realistic and gritty atmosphere and austounding graphics.

Halo:Reach is Impressive, but It's Hard to be WOWed when you've been playing games that have had graphics like this since 2007-2009, It's Visuals are impressive, and i am sure that since the game is 1 year away it'll look better, but as for now, It just doesn't BLOW me away,

Maybe it blows 360 fans away because, There has been No other exclusive on the 360 with High Quality and high fidelity graphics besides Gears and Gears 2.

I'm impress still, bungie Did it, The game Looks very impressive, and totally owns everything that has been released on the 360 out of the water, 5 years in and they've finally created an engine that Uses the 360 the way it should be used. Good for Bungie, I'll actually have to Play this one, because the only other Halo i care about was CE.

Like Figboy says, Only time will tell if the media praises this game for being gritty and colorless the way another game that was released in feb 2009 was critized by the very same fanbase praising Halo's New look.

But none the less, bravo Bungie, you have me intrigued in your game. It looks Next Gen, after 4 years it's about damn time the flagship game of the 360 Looked like it was the best looking 360 game. ^^

[Alcon Caper]

This video isn't really HD. Check out the one on Live. THAT'S HD. And AMAZING

[IQUITN4G]

This piddly bad quality video is not going to show you how great everything actually looks.Watch the video 720 video

Just watch the 360 live download of it on a plasma 42 at least

Wow Bungie

[Justin_bristoe]

this looks great on another level from killzone 2!!....sike.this looks like mass effect one grahpics

[DigitalAnalog]

Well done 360 fans, you 've got a gem in your hands. For the first time ever, I would really like to try out the Halo series.

Presentation wise (cinematics), it is better than Killzone 2, if that IS real-time, the atmosphere and the music. But I really need to see some gameplay before I make ANY real comparison.

But still, this is the type of graphics Microsoft should be releasing EONS ago. Considering their hardware isn't as complicated as the PS3.

-End statement

[mayberry]

Killzone 2 to ME is the most hardcore, stunning, jaw dropping , incredible a.i. fps I've ever played! Hands down! If you play it you will without a doubt come away with the same understanding. Halo reach will look awesome, no doubt! But the A.I. will have to be noticeably GREAT before the two games can be compared. IMHO.

[hoops]

Watching the HD trailer of this is eye dropping. If this translate to in game visuals when the game hits, so much for the 'Xbox360 is maxed out" because this game easily holds up to Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 in visuals. If Bungue hits the same type of game play as the other Halo's, then this game will be a major hit

[maniacf40]

so.. nothing new here.

[Blow Out Your Brains]

uh, where's the actual gameplay?

[yamzilla]

it's not running in game...if it were, you would see millions of jaggies like in halo3 and odst. I played both and couldn't stomach more that an hour at a time due to all the disgusting agitation on screen....looks like a freaking high-res wii game.....lol

[GrandDragon]

Lets not hurt the bots feelings. Let them be deluded whilst we enjoy our 1080P Games. They also deserve peace ;D

[chriski333]

CG trailer same crap over and over lets see some game play oh wait just play ODST what a flop!!!!!!!!!!!

[Henry Cain]

All about graphics now are we Xbox fans.

[hoops]

Like how PS3 fans are all about graphics...when PS2 fans said it was all about GAMEPLY and NOT GRAPHICS LOL

[monstrado]

Oh, the things Halo fans get excited for. Bungie is a decent developer and I'm sure they'll tend to needs of the 360 fans. With that being sad, I didn't see anything spectacular and or "impressive" throughout that entire video...for it being the "Premier" of a video game that is supposed to blow our minds, the video was quite bland. Go ahead, 360 fanboys...flame away.

[Tru_Ray]

The helicopter landed and then took off again!!!!!

w0000000000000000000000000000 000000000000t!!!

/sarcasm

[Pika-pie]

Is this the in game engine? Looks too good to be ingame and too bad to be pre-rendered.. Have they given us anything solid on that?

EDIT- Found it, yes its ingame after 34second mark.

Woo, looks sweet. Still need to play ODST!!

[forcefullpower]

Was a very good trailer.

But seriously the amount of idiots in this thread going on about being best graphics. Until they show a gameplay video you cannot seriously say this is going to be the best game ever.

Can someone tell me as i cannot grasp this fact about being the best game ever. Do i have to have some sort of mental problem to understand it.