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Forget PS5 and Xbox Series X: Nvidia’s RTX 3070 could be all you need

Building a next-gen console spec rig just got affordable.

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mrsolidsteel201712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

I see the point this guy is trying to make, but the average consumer is not going to spend 1000-1800 (cpu’s can cost another 399 or more) to build a PC.

Let alone 500 for just a graphics card.

I’m not sure why some PC heads are so dense to understand that simple economical concept?

CaptainHenry9161712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Hmm I'm thinking differently. Upgrading my GPU with the RTX 3080 and investing in a PS5 for it's *exclusives* feels like it's all I need next generation

Sonyslave31712d ago

Why get both when Sony said they're going to bring their exclusive to pc.

Jin_Sakai1712d ago

“Why get both when Sony said they're going to bring their exclusive to pc.“

Maybe because a PS5 is much cheaper than a PC and you get to play their exclusives day 1 and not have to wait.

This isn’t the case where Xbox games release day and date on PC.

Eonjay1712d ago

Well rest assured you are gonna need more than a Graphics Card to play games.

AnnaDea1712d ago

"Why get both when Sony said they're going to bring their exclusive to pc."

Sony is not gonna let PS5 exclusives come to PC. But rather older titles.

They are not gonna demolish a market they have spent generation to build up.

Tech51712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

"Sony is not gonna let PS5 exclusives come to PC. But rather older titles."

wasn't Death Stranding though announced for pc within weeks of reviews.

Reviews (309D AGO 2019)
https://n4g.com/news/230508...
https://n4g.com/news/230506...
https://n4g.com/news/230503...

PC announcement (313D AGO 2019)
https://n4g.com/news/230386...
Top N4G Quote - Doge -
"It was expected, but announcing it before the launch is surprising."

So you could very well say that includes new games as well.

BLizardXD1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

take it from the fans -
Playstation gamers - "they are not bringing ps exclusives to pc."
https://n4g.com/news/231463...

Sony - "we are bringing ps exclusives to pc."
https://n4g.com/news/233143...
https://www.somagnews.com/s...

pwnmaster30001712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

@ tech and blizzard

Name me more 1st party PS exclusive coming out on the PC day one.
You guys keep bringing up death stranding (which it was most likely going to come out on PC from the beginning) and horizon. 2 games and one of them is old.
Sony isn’t going to to bring all of its exclusives to PC. If you think that then you guys are blind.

They said more not all.

Kribwalker1711d ago

@jin
“Maybe because a PS5 is much cheaper than a PC and you get to play their exclusives day 1 and not have to wait. “

well isn’t an xbox sx much cheaper than a gaming pc?

And if you want to spend the money on a gaming PC to play xbox exclusives, why wouldn’t you use that PC to play PS5 games as well?

PoopsMcGee1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

@Tech5

Death Stranding is not a 1st party game.

anubusgold1711d ago

@Eonjay You are lying harder than fox news for consoles. IF you have a Pcie slot and you have a broadwell cpu thats really old you can still game at 60 fps and you console fanboys have been defending 30 fps all over this site so STFU.

RaiderNation1711d ago

@Sonyslave

Bringing old PS4 games to PC in an effort to promote PS5 isn't the same thing as what you're suggesting. You're not going to see 1st party PS5 exclusives coming to PC for a very long time.

morganfell1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

Someone is apparently unaware that Death Stranding

1 - 3rd party title

2 - When it first appeared was marked as PS4 and PC. The PC was mysteriously removed but everyone saw where that game was going.

Also there was this: https://www.gamepressure.co...

Another narrow minded article boiling down next gen to a single factor.

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Artemidorus1711d ago

A good approach to consider, especially with Microsoft and it's joint venture with PC Console features.

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RazzerRedux1712d ago

How about the concept of upgrading existing PCs versus building a new one from scratch? That seems to be a common bit of willful ignorance from the console gaming camp, frankly. Every time I read a post like yours, it is this idea that folks are "going to spend 1000-1800". lol....it is just wrong.

You don't have to buy/build a new PC every time the next generation CPU or GPU is launched. That is console mentality. It doesn't apply to PC gaming. You would think that would be a "simple concept" but apparently not.

RgR1712d ago

Yeah most of the time you don't even need an upgrade if you already invested in a decent cpu and graphics card.

For next gen I can see myself spending for a new graphics card
...but that would be enough for next gen and probably the gen after that.

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--Onilink--1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Well, if you are going for a significant upgrade (like many people probably since not really that many have the latest card)..
You could easily be looking into also upgrading the ram to ddr4, the ssd to an nvme, that means a new mobo is also needed (also the mobo might be necessary if you want pcie4.0).

Those components alone have to be easily pushing the $1000 without considering a potential cpu change as well.

Sure you dont always need to change all components, but given the new-newish versions of many things recently, its not really that out of the question to think a lot of people would be looking at changing the vast majority of things (and then not really have to for at least 5 years) .

Otherwise you are just going to start bottlenecking the hell out of the pc if you just consider gpu changes

kneon1712d ago

If you upgrade to the latest and greatest GPU but are pairing it with 4-5 year old CPU, RAM, hard drive etc. then you've just moved the bottlenecks. The rest of the system will hold you back.

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RazzerRedux1712d ago

@kneon

Like PS4 and Xbox and PS4 Pro and Xbox One X? All using that jaguar CPU. You want to talk about bottlenecks? That's the thing. You have no choice but to go with what Sony and MS give you. Not PC gamers. They have a choice. That's the point. Let's revisit this in two or three years and see where we stand. PC always outpaces console. And now consoles incorporate tech from PC.

@joejoejoe

"I know because I have a seven-year-old PC right now. "

Oh great. An expert on PC gaming. /s

You know jack shit.

PrinterMan1712d ago

Sometimes you do though. Not all Mobo fit all new cards of any sort. Power supplies etc. may need a change. I just went through this and got an AMD 3700x and a GTX 1080. Still decent but not near this level and nope, I can't afford it now. :(

derek1712d ago

There is nothing unique or special about Nvidia launching graphics cards that are far more performant than the ones found in the latest consoles. If you are not interested in pc gaming, and building or upgrading and existing pc then it simply doesn't matter. Everyone knew these cards would exceed whats in the PS5 and series x (amd is launching a high end version of the rdna2 cards found in both consoles soon) yet everyone acts surprised now that they've been announced.

dcbronco1712d ago

You have to upgrade because you often have compatibility issues with new parts. You'll most likely need a new psu. You could become CPU constrained or need faster ram. The things consoles will be able to do with their superior SSDs and the architecture that makes them run more smoothly will require upgrades. You're already going have to spend nearly a thousand just to upgrade. And if you have Intel you're probably going to need a new motherboard if you upgrade your CPU. PC is a money pit.

RazzerRedux1711d ago

@PrinterMan

"Sometimes you do though. Not all Mobo fit all new cards of any sort. Power supplies etc. may need a change. I just went through this and got an AMD 3700x and a GTX 1080. Still decent but not near this level and nope, I can't afford it now. :("

lol....what? PCI Express 3.0 has been the standard for over 10 years. What do you mean "Not all Mobo fit all new cards of any sort". That's nonsense.

"got an AMD 3700x and a GTX 1080"

Is that a prebuilt? Post a link.

@dcbronco

"You have to upgrade because you often have compatibility issues with new parts."

lol....you and joejoejoe and this silly idea that somehow GPUs took a left turn the last 10 years and and made every motherboard out there incompatible.

Sorry, that didn't happen. That motherboard joejoejoe claims could take a 1080ti will handle a RTX 3000 just fine.

" You could become CPU constrained or need faster ram. "

Maybe. But then again that could be the case and still outperform next gen consoles. At 4K, games are typically putting a heck of a lot more pressure on GPU than anything else.

Rainbowcookie1711d ago

@Razzer
I see the point you are making, if you can get away within a $500 budget i understand that, but if a user has 0 pc I can also understand rather getting a console... I used to play pc games but the constant upgrade I just couldn't afford it so I stopped I think 2001 round about. Got a ps4 a few years back so for me it seems sell the ps4 and get a ps5 would be wiser. The other thing was the constant driver, download, virus , spyware upgrades. The windows constant nagging, defragging drives, piracy and at the time playing on a mouse and keyboard. Consoles to me was less admin.

rainslacker1711d ago

I think if one already has a pc, and one already uses it for gaming, then this kind of article is moot to those people.

Making up anecdotal situations which dont really address the topic at hand seems pointless, because it was already possible to get more powerful cards than what the new consoles will offer.

But just like both the new consoles dont perform the same based on their specs, no PC, or new GPU is going to perform the same, and making sweeping generalizations about what hardware someone may have doesnt change that.

With the consoles, you get the assurance the game will run, barring the need for day one patches for some games. With PC, you're probably good most of the time, but if something goes wrong, the average person isnt really adept at fixing such problems...especially the kind of people that would be influenced by an article like this.

Zeroyosh1711d ago

because it goes beyond just upgrading your video card, because you upgrade to the gtx 30 series, you simply will not get the horsepower of the card, if you have other components that are subpar bottlenecking your system, your CPU, even motherboard, have to be on the same level or close to get a card to perform to the numbers that nvidia is touting. so after that 500 dollar card, you have to get a 200 dollar motherboard that can support transfer rates of data that these video cards are pumping out. that and another 600 cpu that is capable to keeping up with the card. and that is not including ram..my point is the card does not make the computer. all your other components have to be on par with it, or you just get smaller slight graphics improvements, and slight fps increase on them most demanding games.

anubusgold1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

@kneon Oh please console fanboy there wont be a bottleneck because console games has held games back for 10 years. Games still barley use 4 cores to this day because consoles are so damn slow and devlopers always program to the lowest common denominator and thats consoles.

anubusgold1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

@joejoejoe
You are lying people tested a 2080ti on Pcie 2.0 and they showed a 10 percent performance loss and most of you do not have a 2080ti.

anubusgold1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

@PrinterMan
All gpus fit pcie what are you talking about? lol You may need a new powersupply but you dont know what you are talking about lol.

RazzerRedux1711d ago

@Zeroyosh

Even if the system does have some bottlenecks that performance will more than likely be greater than consoles. You don't have to have a perfectly balanced system. Consoles haven't had that the last seven years and suddenly console gamers are pointing out the flaws of potential PC configurations that not NEARLY as out of whack? Come on.

" so after that 500 dollar card, you have to get a 200 dollar motherboard that can support transfer rates of data that these video cards are pumping out. that and another 600 cpu that is capable to keeping up with the card. and that is not including ram"

Fiction. A $95 B550 AMD chipset motherboard has PCIe 4.0 x16. A $290 8-core Ryzen 7 3700x will do fine as well. Hell, a $200 6 core is adequate enough. No idea where this $600 CPU fantasy came from. As long as you have DDR4 RAM, it is fine.

"my point is the card does not make the computer."

No, but it is THE most crucial part of a gaming PC especially if you gaming at 1440p and 2160p where the GPU takes most of the grunt work away from the CPU.

1Victor1711d ago

@Razzer PC never attracted me although KB&M is a superior controller for some games it never attracted me as a gamer and I don’t own a PC can you please tell me how much I would have to spend to build a PC that would take full advantage of this new graphics card. No offense to the “master race” (PC)but we the grunts (console) like to pick up and go and don’t have to deal with drivers and hardware compatibility.
So please enlighten us with the price for this PC from scratch so I can play XBSX on it and old PS4 games.

RazzerRedux1711d ago

@1Victor

Starting from scratch, I'd say approx. $1170.

https://pcpartpicker.com/li...

That's with the 2070 Super which is the same price as the 3070, but isn't available yet. And that includes a PCIe Gen 4 SSD just like PS5. You can get a legit Windows 10 key on ebay for less than $10. And from there on, you've got a PC that you can upgrade as you see fit.

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MadLad1712d ago

You could build a solid PC built around the 3070 for sub $800 if you at all know what you are doing.

Let alone more than double that amount.

ssj271712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Are you high? If the 3070 cost 500 plus tax how the f you going to spend 300 more and build a pc cut the bs just a ssd that will keep up to Playstation 5 standards cost over 300 for 1tb now days if there is any..this pc nerds are really funny and I'm mentioning Playstation standards because im imagining if in 5 years spiderman mm comes out to pc you will want to be ps5 ready

JackBNimble1712d ago

$500 for a 3070 and cheap out on the rest of your build, that's just asking for trouble.
If you're going to invest in pc gaming then you might as well do right the first time. I guarantee the first problem you're going to have is with your psu and then CPU.
Good luck with that budget build with high end GPU's.

Unspoken1712d ago

I think some people forget what the used market can provide concerning cost/performance.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1712d ago

I’d like to see this build you’re talking about.

morganfell1712d ago

When defense of an idea forgets its aims and slips into fanaticism. The sane look on and shake their heads at the madness.

Sarcasm1711d ago

Ugh no. You need at least a $300 CPU by itself (10600K or 8700K) to drive the frame rates a 3070 is going to provide. Used or not. The 3070 is essentially a 2080ti, it's been shown in countless benchmarks if you want to utilize it 100%, or else you'll just be bottlenecking and wasting performance.

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anubusgold1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

@TheRealTedCruz
Look at the sony fanboys attacking you this is what this site has become lol. If this site still had bubbles they would get together to debubble you so you cant talk this is N4G in a nutshell lol.

anubusgold1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

@JackBNimble
No its not for over a year now dell and cyberpower pc have been selling prebuilt pcs with a 6 core intel or rzyen cpu and a 2060 or rx 580 for $650 thats all you need to game at 80 fps max detail at 1080P. So You can easily upgrade those pcs cheap you just need a graphics card or power supply maybe. I was going to build my sister a pc and said i couldnt build a pc for that cheap with those parts so cyberpower and dell was giving us a real deal with those builds .

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Marquinho1712d ago

Not everyone will need to build a PC from scratch. You don't even need to upgrade the Motherboard to PCI-E 4.0... honestly, if you already own a rig, upgrading could cost you around 300-500 bucks, depending on what you buying/selling.

RazzerRedux1712d ago

You people have me agreeing with Marquinho. Seriously?

;-)

anubusgold1711d ago

@Marquinho These console fanboys are butthurt companies like Evga lets you upgrade your graphics they take back used cards under warrenty if something goes wrong and XFX will take your card back even used no matter what and they may give you the choice of getting a Nvidia card back or amd and may give you a higher level card than the used one you turned in.

RosweeSon1712d ago

Exactly and how long does that stay up to date. Barely 12/18 months before something is outdated. Or I can buy a console for £400/500 max and it’ll last me 6-8 years 🤔😅🤷 27995;‍♂️😂 i can’t count FPS so I’m not paying 2-3X for more that I can’t physically count anyway. I don’t care for top resolutions if I gotta pay for them every other year

Marquinho1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

There's plenty of people who's upgrading from 2016's 1080.

ocelot071712d ago

If you want to build from scratch and go with a rtx 3070. You can build system with a 3070 plus a Ryzen 3600x, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd and a b550 motherboard or go cheaper and get a b450 for $900 or around that.

cyclindk1712d ago

%100.

When I build a PC, I usually have to get new-everything to prevent bottlenecks. To take full advantage of what the 3000 series offers I’d need newer SSD, CPU and system memory and potentially the mobo itself.

fr0sty1712d ago

Not to mention the missing exclusives... the reason people buy consoles to begin with.

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blackblades1711d ago

Average consumer dont know what a nvida bla bla is. Older people still call everything a Nintendo game.

anubusgold1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

Ha ha You got a pcie slot? Yes ,for 15 years ago here is a 100 dollar power supply and you are good to go. I know you love sony but really.

AKS1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

"I’m not sure why some PC heads are so dense to understand that simple economical concept?"

And I often wonder why so many try to pretend like every time you upgrade a PC it costs $2000 as though anyone would just throw all their old PC components in the garbage to upgrade a graphics card. I still have my Cooler Master case, Corsair PSU, and some other bits from 2011 from several builds ago. That was back when Intel's Sandy Bridge was new and two years before the base PS4 and Xbox One were released. A i7-2600K was part of that same build. An upgrade to an Ampere graphics card for me right now would in fact be only the price of a newer graphics card. I haven't done a 100% full rebuild since 2011.

PC components aren't cheap, but don't grossly exaggerate the cost of PC gaming. It doesn't require a LIVE or PS Plus subscription, and the software is frequently significantly cheaper. PC and Pro had me covered for the PC, PS4, and Xbox libraries this generation, and I'll be moving on the PC and PS5 soon. BTW, my 2700x upgrade cost me $160 (worked with my old motherboard and Noctua cooler out of the box thanks to AM4 platform) and included a copy of The Outer Worlds, which is quite a bit less than your "$399 or more" estimate.

LMosche1711d ago

Can you play Nioh 2, FF7 Remake, Persona 5 Royal, TLOU2, Ghost of Tsushima, Dreams, Spiderman Miles, Ratchet & Clank 2, Demons Souls etc. on an RTX 3000 gpu? Lmao no games.

anubusgold1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

You have no MMOs, YOu have no strategy games, you dont have Mordhau, arma , Squad, Elite dangerous, Dayz, Rust, Divinity and the other 500 games just in my steam account. That doesnt count the games in my green man gaming account, my gog.com account, the games i bought off humble bundle, and the other digital sites that dont report sales numbers.

@thorstein You dont know what you are talking about those games were alll shown running on a intel cpu that dont have pcie 4.0

thorstein1711d ago

Agreed. A PC is only as good as its slowest component.

So, you have that new, awesome GPU for 500. Now you need an SSD that can handle that speed. Oh, and a CPU that can handle that speed.

What's that? The new GPU isn't compatible with your motherboard. Well, time to upgrade that. New cooling system, and I want a case that can house it all.

Oh shit, that's 1300 more than a new PS5.

Livingthedream1711d ago

The average console player will stick to consoles, and if they move to PC its usually baby steps,and often don't have all the info required to make a good purchase. This is why I firmly believe that Sony or Ms placing their games on PC as well has no negative impact,console players stick to consoles.

frostypants1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

Every gen we get a wave of these stupid articles making the same broken claim. They always make the same mistake of ignoring the total cost of a PC.

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anubusgold1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

Why cant console fools understand that a old pc can be upgraded to run these cards. Look at youtube sleeper builds they take a 200 dollar prebuilt that has a proper cpu and has a pcie slot change the power supply and gpu and you have a gaming pc that runs over 60fps on high or ultra detail. And you console fools are defending 30 fps all day on this site then play stupid when you see a old pc running games on ultra far over 60fps and say you have to rebuild your whole pc everytime you upgrade you kids are fools on this site.

kayoss1711d ago

Let’s think about this logistically. Hard core pc gamer will have a rig already to upgrade, no problem. But most will own a console and a barely decent laptop or PC. For Those with a decent PC, they’re better off buying or building a brand new rig. But for the sake of upgrading, a new card like this one will cost you $800-1200 easily. That’s more than a console itself. So logically, it’s more financially better to buy a next gen console vs upgrading a pc or building a brand new pc.

Artemidorus1711d ago

Because you spend well over 1000 on a smartphone, yearly for some so if you can afford that you can easily afford a mid tier PC

It's future proofing where you can still play games on decent settings unlike this 'next gen' that will struggle later on.

These new cards have literally destroyed everything else in the field, disagree all you like, facts are facts.

LM12131711d ago

might get a 3070 or 3080. might need to upgrade my psu. that's all. already got everything else from my last build. ddr4 check. m.2 check, ryzen 5 3600, case: nzxt 510 elite. 510i elite. rog strix b450-f gaming.....
people act like you have to upgrade your whole pc anytime you want to buy something. not true.

I already have compatible pieces. just might upgrade GPU and PSU. done.
plus with pc's you don't JUST game. it can do tons of other things, so it's a good investment.

I'll probably get a ps5, new gpu and psu and be set.

darthode1711d ago

Some PC heads have a serious inferiority complex and owning some high-end pc whose innards will be obsolete in a couple of months makes them feel better about themselves.

LM12131709d ago

if that's the case the console would be obsolete in the same amount of time. you can upgrade a pc...not so much a console

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LOGICWINS1712d ago

Kudos to NVIDIA for what they’ve done here. I’ve always assumed I’d have to pay thousands of dollars to get a high-end experience on PC.

I_am_Batman1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

You must not have paid much attention to PC hardware prior to Turing then. Ampere cards are pretty much in line of what you'd usually expect in terms of performance/dollar on PC, and you never had to pay "thousands of dollars" to get a gaming PC that offers a great gaming experience, whether you'd call it high-end or not. Buying the best that's available is always gonna cost you a fortune, because you are paying for the privilege of getting next-gen midrange performance one generation early, but if you're willing to step down a tier or two, you usually can get some great value options.

As much as I am happy about Nvidia's return to sanity, it's also disappointing to see so many people already accepted the pricing structure of Turing as the new norm and are now putting Nvidia on a pedestal for doing what would've been expected from them prior to Turing.

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Michiel19891711d ago

I think a lot of people are happy there is a mid/high end gpu alternative from nvidia at the start of a new product line. If im not mistaken in the past it always took 2 years or so for them to release a midrange card below 800 bucks, I always stuck with amd over the years so im not that familliar with them.

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jukins1712d ago

They only did it because they have to. They got away with expensive cards in the past because amd was not a worry. Im thinking amd might actually have a competitive product with how aggressive the pricing is.

clouds51711d ago

You do realize that the 3000 are priced exactly the same as the 2000 series right? The 2070 was 499$ at launch and the 2080 was 699$. There was an outcry with the 2000 series and now suddenly the same prices are great? What? The real story is that the GTX 970 (the same midrange card as the 3070 at the time) was 329$ ! at launch.

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lukasmain1712d ago

No. You can't play PS5 or PS4 exclusives on PC. They finally put Horozon Zero Dawn on PC when the PS4 generation was ending. You're not going to get PS5 exclusives, or even many of the old PS4 exclusives for that matter. YOU NEED A PC AND A PS5. It's as simple as that.

Atom6661712d ago

You better be knocking on a lot of wood when you say that. Death Stranding and HZD may just be an anomaly, or they may be the start of something much bigger.

Kingthrash3601712d ago

Death stranding is a 3rd parry fame that was announced for PC after it first trailer. Horizon is a 3 year old game.
Ps games are coming but after the ps games release.

RgR1712d ago

Maybe you should check your info first. Death stranding is not from a Sony studio

FirstSonOfKrypton1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Death stranding is owned by sony

Atom6661712d ago

Cool. So Demon Souls should be expected too then, right?

DarkZane1711d ago

@Atom666

Maybe, but be prepared to wait at least 2-3 years, if it even comes at all.

Vaud-Villian1711d ago

Kojima Productions is an independent studio, Death Stranding was just published by Sony (and 505 studios for the PC port) Sony does not own it.

Unspoken1711d ago

Many Sony "exclusives" already moved to PC. The 1st party titles are not worth solely buying a PS5 for, which is why they are bringing them to PC to at least profit off the software sales.

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RazzerRedux1712d ago

It remains to be seen how far Sony goes with PC ports. We've got these dueling narratives out there. Some are implying every Sony game will be on PC. Others are saying some might but you will wait a long time for them. We don't know either to be true at this point. Sounds to me like Sony isn't going to make any promises either way so no idea why this idea exists that some protocol has been established. It simply hasn't.

RgR1712d ago

It gives certain people the ammunition to pretend that they're doing the same as xbox. I don't see how releasing one 1st party title in an entire generation means they will release all upcoming 1st party on pc. To each his own.

kneon1712d ago

@RgR

I expect Sony releasing older games to PC is more of a marketing exercise than anything.

Give people a taste of what they have to offer so more will be tempted to get a PS5. Or they're just going to have to wait until the generation is almost over to get the next crop of Sony exclusives on PC.

subzero19921712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Sony said they were planning to bring more games over.

https://www.eurogamer.net/a...

Ratchet751712d ago

More games from their old catalog.
Not the newest ones.
You will not see TLOU2 or GOT on PC anytime soon.

Sirk7x1711d ago

But what if they do? What if these companies are either expecting the entire market to change, or are deciding to change it themselves?

lukasmain1711d ago

What if a meteor hits my home on the first Tuesday of January 2021?

You want to not buy a PS5 because maybe, what if, and who knows, they might put all their games on PC. It's stupid and foolish. Think about it, if they put all their games on PC, there would be no reason to buy a PS5, and if people started buying PC's then they wouldn't sell all the other 3rd party games on the PSN store and they would lose out on Billions. Not to mention the 10's of Millions of PS Plus subscribers.

Look Pal, keep dreaming. But it's NOT happening.

Sirk7x1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

Did not say I wouldn't buy a PS5, I most likely will, as well as an Xbox. I'm just saying, it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility. We've no clue what the gaming market will lead to this upcoming gen.

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isarai1712d ago

Here's my thing. Does it run circles around the PS3/XSX? Sure, could i buy that instead of a new console and pop in my existing rig for the same cost? Absolutely. Are there games built from the ground up to take full advantage of this technology? Not on PC! And i don't think there ever will be, but there is for consoles, especially the PS5, which will also have games you can't play anywhere else, so personally this card is not in my interest for now.

kneon1712d ago

Buying the fastest PC gaming rig is often like buying a race car and having nowhere to drive it. Now I do build a new top end PC every 2-3 years and I do push them to their limit, but I don't play games on them.

Sonyslave31712d ago

Sony on record saying they're bringing their exclusive to pc following Ms like always their really no point in buying ps5 or xbsx.

RazzerRedux1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

You are jumping the gun. Sony is exploring the possibility of bringing more games to PC. They have not committed to anything.

Silly gameAr1712d ago

He/she's trolling. Don't pay them any mind. He knows what he typed is bs.

RosweeSon1712d ago

Sony have already done it, if you like waiting 2-3 years brilliant.

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Ratchet751712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Whatever help you sleep at night MS whore.
😂😂.

Games1st1712d ago

Expressed interest. Nothing about PS5 games and when.

Thundercat771711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

Share the link where Sony said they are going to bring their new exclusives games on PC you liar.

Sony has not offered any detailed plan and they are just taking about old 3 or 4 years old exclusive games.

You are just spreading misinformation.

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Sony Aims To Sell 15 Million PS5 Units This Year, but Is Shifting Focus to Monthly Active Users

Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki and CFO Lin Tao talked about the state of the PlayStation business and the strategy and targets going forward, including how they're responding to the tariffs.

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1Victor18h ago

I wonder how the USA tariffs war will affect that projection. 🤔

S2Killinit16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I think they take that into consideration when they announce their projections. Currently, after the xbox price increase, the PRO is cheaper than the series x! That is ridiculous, and it can’t last.

darthv729h ago

you keep saying that but the price of a PS5 Pro is S699.99 (US) and the price of a Series X is $599.99 (US)

S2Killinit9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

The series x with 2 TB storage space is more expensive than PS5 PRO which also has 2 TB storage space.

darthv729h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Oh so you are pitting a regular Pro with a special edition X... got it. If you are going so far as trying to compare apples to apples... please add in the optical drive and stand to the Pro. Seeing as the X has both of those by default.

I will help you if you are unable to do so.
PS5 Pro 2tb: $699.99, Optical Drive: $79.99, Stand: $29.99 = $809.97
Xbox Series X Galaxy Black Special Edition 2TB: $729.99

drivxr16h ago

I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU.

RaiderNation16h ago

Because that's where the real money is made, in microtransactions.

Profchaos16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

People are spending less time playing is a typical trigger for this.

The less time spent playing the less likely you are to spend more money on games and services including subs or even the next console.

Increased engagement equals more money.

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DarXyde1h ago

Same reason Microsoft does it: it looks better to investors and it's a solution when unit sales slow down.

Personally, I'm not a fan of this metric; and by using it, you're kind of signaling that you're moving into the "This is a PlayStation" era.

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Sony Announces Large Profits Growth for PlayStation; Expects Further Wins in Current Fiscal Year

Sony announced its financial results for the fiscal year 2024, and things are certainly looking up, despite a decline in PS5 sales.

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CrimsonWing6920h ago

Expect sh*t to slow down if prices aren’t kept in check.

Redgrave19h ago

Who downvotes the truth?

Even PSN itself is too damn high.jpg

S2Killinit16h ago

Gamepass is already at 20$ per month if im not mistaken.

toxic-inferno11h ago

@neutralgamer1992

Not all of us. I'm a big PlayStation fan, and have been since the PSOne. But I can't begin to defend what's happening currently.

At least Nintendo release a large number of games from their major franchises. Sony is just not banking on their established franchises, and yet are raising prices. Not great.

S2Killinit16h ago

Im pretty sure we are going to see a price increase for PRO. I mean think about it, its currently cheaper than xbox series x! That cannot last.

Eonjay13h ago

I'm absolutely sure we will not see a price increase. I don't think we should 'expect' to see price increase because it just adds validity to what Nintendo and Microsoft have done.

darthv723h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Sorry to pop that bubble but the Pro is not cheaper than a series x... generally speaking (like you are). It is cheaper than one specific version, and doing so by not including the optical drive and stand like the X has by default.

So keep on trying to convince people you are right when everyone knows it's quite the opposite. A stock Pro is $699.99 and a stock X is $599.99. A special edition galactic black 2tb X is $729.99. And if you really want to compare apples to apples... adding the aforementioned optical drive and stand brings that Pro to $809.97 and then they would be on equal footing.

Twisting truths to fit a narrative... I expect better from you S2.

TheKingKratos19h ago

So the Pro is not offering any push in sales at all ?

CrashMania17h ago

It's still an expensive, niche product ultimately. And they exceeded their sales projections for units sold by half a million.

lawox16h ago

"18.5 million units have been shipped during the full fiscal year. This is actually ahead of the 18 million units target set by the company."

They beat their yearly estimate. It's not broken down by device, but it's clearly performing well enough. Since it's been released it's consistently been the second best selling SKU on Amazon only after the the Slim with disc.

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Bathyj9h ago

18 million a year is in the toilet?
I remember when 10 was considered good
Hell Microsoft would take that right now.
Probably pay $100b for it.

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BeHunted19h ago

If their profits fall next quarter, we'll probably see more price hikes. I can't imagine having to pay £20 a month for PlayStation Plus.

S2Killinit17h ago

I think gamepass is already paying that much.

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drivxr18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Decline in hardware sales.
Behind on lifetime sales and decline in first party sales.
Third party content and PSN came through to save the day.
Things will improve starting with the next Ghost game.

Hopefully a steady flow of first party content by end of '25

rlow114h ago(Edited 14h ago)

I guess you get downvoted for stating facts from Sony’s own lips. What I’m curious about is what their top games of the year were and how much Xbox games contributed to the increase?

CrashMania14h ago

Well, generally 3rd party publisher games contribute the most anyway, so no different to capcom, EA and so on contributing to this figure.

lawox11h ago

That's because the report is actually really good.

They beat the console sales estimate that they set last year March, they have increased users both due to the record numbers of PS4 users and strong PS5 sales which is leading to great profits in sales and user spend.

This report is about the financial health of the PlayStation brand and as a platform PlayStation is stronger than ever. Heck they even have Microsoft putting their biggest franchises on the platform.

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Lightning7712h ago

This is exactly what happened to Xbox year's ago. They had no first party and started seeing decline in 1st party sales, which effected their third party games which eventually effected their console sales. A slow decline across the board.

Calm down PS fans I'm not saying PS is becoming like old Xbox. I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. Look how Xbox finally has compelling first party and things are on a up swing(despite years going on a downswing). I know thanks to PS releases which helps a ton, (which is why Xbox hardware only dropped 6% instead of 30+% like it usually does) The point still stands despite what Genz Trends may go, first party and compelling games sell hardware and software still. Sony's financial quarter is an example of this, of what lower First party output looks like.

No matter they'll be right back on track in due time any time especially with DS2 (not my type of game but I know many like it) and Yotei. They're not Xbox and let things get bad for so many years on end.

crazyCoconuts11h ago

"I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. "
First party is mostly relevant for the sole purpose of creating EXCLUSIVES that are needed to stay competitive. With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important. PlayStation as a platform now has free reign to profit without the high expense of needing exclusive first party titles.

red2tango11h ago

Sony has been very lazy with 1st party games compared to the PS4 era. And even the PS4 era was nothing compared to the PS3 era in terms of games.

Lightning778h ago

"With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important."

Absolutely not. If that was the case then Nintendo would put Mario on Sega Genesis and Sonic on Super Nintendo. I know things are way different 30+ years later but not much has really changed in terms of exclusives and their impact on hardware. Especially early in the console life cycle.

Sony made all the money this quarter handover fist. Profits isn't a issue for them right now. I was just saying lower hardware sales and lower first party sales will hurt them or any console manufacturer of they don't have the compelling games in the long run. Just like it hurt Xbox. IF Sony keeps up not having lower first part output. Which we know they're not.

crazyCoconuts6h ago

Well no big exclusives in the last two years yet PS is doing great. What are people gonna do? Buy an Xbox?

Lightning776h ago

No it's just like 360 where they had no games yet ppl still bought it because they sold ppl on the games early on that gen the fans were locked in and invested. They were riding the good will and was dubbed the shooter, racer box. The games dried up and they never recovered from it which hurt them in the long run. Same here with PS they still make the big bucks because they had games early on and the fans locked in and will continue to lock in for a little while longer despite lacking in first party.

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PS5 shipments top 77.8 million

PlayStation 5 has shipped 77.8 million units worldwide, Sony announced in its financial results for the three months ended March 31, 2025.

italiangamer1d ago

Perfectly in line to reach 100 million by March 2026.

Profchaos17h ago

Theys have to clear 22.2 million to do this.
When you average out the current number over 5 years it's unlikely.

If the console was going down in price it would be possible but they have not been able to reduce the cost in fact it's gone up so this is working against them.

gta Vi has also been pushed out of the financial year and there's likely millions of GTA v players still on ps5 that have not made the jump those players would for GTA vi

The overall poor market conditions and uncertainty doesn't fill me with confidence trade war, weak yen and the ongoing cost of living crisis. We're not talking core gamers picking up a new system were talking gamers who wait for the back 9 to enter a new generation.

I think 2027 they will but 100 not this year.

italiangamer17h ago

They will reach 100 million during 2026.

S2Killinit16h ago

It might actually get a boost considering that even the PS5 PRO is currently cheaper than the series x. This will of course be over soon as Im expecting a price hike for the PRO.

Travesty16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I know Sony said they are considering raising prices.. Well as of yesterday China and the US lifted their tariffs standoff. At least for 90 days until they can agree on a trade deal that would benefit both parties. So with manufacturing in China and shipping them to the US I’m hoping it will not affect the prices.

Although I kind of doubt Sony will top 100 million since GTA 6 will be releasing next year by March. Could be wrong and I’ll be glad to be.

Xbox shooting itself in the foot or more like nailing their own coffin with rising prices. Hopefully Sony will stay put.. Ghost of Yotei is releasing for $70 still so that’s a god sign hopefully.

senorfartcushion16h ago

Is this a good thing for someone with no shares in Sony stock?

italiangamer16h ago

More PS5 on the market = higher chance of getting even more games.
It's not rocket science.

gold_drake13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

very nice.
in almost 5 years too.
some big hitters are yet to come

badz1496h ago(Edited 6h ago)

come on...don't say that! that slogan "Greatness Awaits" is haunting me everytime someone says this and yeah...1st party output has not been a highlight this gen which is a huge bummer! personally, I would rate their 1st party output this gen 4/10!

gold_drake2h ago

to be honest, when i typed it out, it did sound like a slogan for that ha