Cloud Causes Strife Among Fans

Cloud Strife, one of the most popular characters to ever grace video games, has stormed his way onto the Nintendo Wii U in a rather shocking revelation. Some are baffled, others are upset, and the rest of the fans are ecstatic to have him included as part of the Super Smash Bros. downloadable content.

[thugtrio]

Not sure how I feel about Cloud in Smash.

[nintendo1889]

Hence this article :P

[Abash]

I honestly would have been more excited seeing Isaac announced for Smash Bros. 4. Cloud Strife is still cool, but Isaac is long overdue to be part of the Smash Bros. roster

[Lord_Sloth]

I'll enjoy having him in the game but he's certainly an odd choice since the character has only really appeared on Playstation systems. Warrior of Light would have felt like a better FF addition in Smash.

[miyamoto]

Cloud causes strife among fans?
Really?
How?
When?
Why?

Because of these games:
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What?

[pompombrum]

Don't see how it's a bad thing, a character as big as Cloud is bound to bring new people to the community, it was his trailer reveal which finally convinced me to get a Wii U at least.

[nintendo1889]

Agreed, and happy to hear that that announcement has convinced you to get a Wii U :D

[3-4-5]

If Cloud being in smash bothers you, you have some issues to deal with.

It's literally not a big deal, and is only good for gaming in general.

Some people only want themselves or their group to experience good things.

This is great news for getting Square-Enix games on the NX, which is good for all gamers.

Cloud has only ever been in so many PS games, and Smash is an iconic fighting game.

Playstation fans should be proud he get put in the game. It's an honor.

[WildArmed]

AHHH, I see the issue now.

I never understood why Cloud being on Smash would be an issue. Turns out it was over it being on Nintendo console instead of Sony?

Yikes!

[3-4-5]

Yea it can only help make Cloud more popular, which in turn will help boost the sales of FF7 remake which is exclusively only on PS4.

Literally can only be a good thing, I wish more people understood this.

[smashman98]

Not exclusive just first

[vegetassj51]

I think the reason people are bothered by it is cuz Cloud is probably taking up a roster spot from a Nintendo character that's more deserving

[MeteorPanda]

As it was fortold a decade ago by preteens on what was once the front page of the internet; Newgrounds Forums, Cloud and Goku were favourites while sonic was a safe bet and Snake was a wildcard. I can't believe it finally happened XD

[FallenAngel1984]

I don't see the issue. We've had Final Fantasy characters appear in Mario Hoops 3-on-3 and Mario Sports Mix, two games that were developed by Square Enix. Even the Mario franchise and Dragon Quest franchise crossed over in Itadaki Street DS and Fortune Street. Nintendo and Square Enix are no strangers to having crossovers with one another.

Cloud's inclusion in SSB4 is more referencing the fact that the Final Fantasy franchise got its start on Nintendo consoles than the actual character himself. Square Enix wouldn't have generic job classes or any of the lead roles from FFI-FFVI be the rep because they aren't as well known as Cloud is. Cloud is the most iconic rep to choose for Square Enix's biggest franchise, so its a natural fit in that aspect. Even moreso than Solid Snake from the Metal Gear franchise.

[nintendo1889]

I agree, their choosing Cloud is in a way, homage to the old days when Square Enix and Nintendo were partners in the gaming industry.

[Eamon]

Uhh, it'd be a homage if they chose a character from FF1-FF6. FF7 was on PS1 lol.

Not that I'm complaining. I'll be downloading Cloud DLC on Day 1.

[FallenAngel1984]

Not only Square Enix but Konami, SEGA, Capcom, and Bandai Namco also have had a long history with Nintendo. That is why their respective characters were allowed to appear in Super Smash Bros to rep their publishers.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Smash community can be a pain in the ass most of the times. I don't see what is wrong with this. Nah just the typical people mad because his wished character wasn't chosen.

[nintendo1889]

And the Direct for Smash Bros is pretty soon, next month and we'll be hearing the results of the Smash poll.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

It just that majority of the smash community or Nintendo fans thought it was Wolf when the trailer was first shown.

If you go on YouTube and watch people reaction 95% didn't get FFVII Bombing Mission song.

[-Foxtrot]

At the end of the day despite how awesome it is it would have made more sense for Sora to be included.

Although my problem is despite how much better and popular Smash Bros is they couldn't let Cloud be in Playstation All Stars...the characters being the biggest let down of the game. If it had the fan favourites it might have stood a chance

Obviously the whole "Super" thing was the games other problem but the characters were the main one for me when you are trying to establish a new franchise

[nintendo1889]

Yeah, that would have made sense, but I see it as SE and Nintendo rekindling some kind of relationship.

[Kalebninja]

There's still a possibility sora could get in because of the ballot. As far as cloud it seems all the third party characters they've added so far are some of biggest in gaming and of their genre. Smash seems to be evolving from a celebration of Nintendo characters to a celebration of video games as a whole.

[nintendo1889]

Of course, we'll know for sure when we hear the direct, which should be soon, I think...? I can't wait to see what results the poll had.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

Yes that is if Disney allows Sora.

Since they are the one to decide.

[Snookies12]

Pretty sure Tetsuya Nomura is the one who holds claim over Sora. Since he created the character after all. Not too sure what the contract between Square Enix and Disney is though for that whole series.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

@Snookies12
He did created him but Disney was the one that was pressuring him while created Sora.

Disney was heavily involved with Sora creation.

[smashman98]

Yep Disney 100 percent owns sora and Kingdom Hearts maybe not some of the characters in KH "FF CHaracters, TWEWY characters" but definitely sora

[JOKERACN7]

The more options, the better ! simple as that

[nintendo1889]

Exactly, that's how I like it

[thugtrio]

Why can't Halo Chief be a character then!? :(

[NSG]

Lol while we're at it let's add tomb raiders Laura Croft, she's pretty big now

[nintendo1889]

No kidding, it's up to Square Enix, which I think owns the rights to that IP since Eidos no longer exists.

[Neonridr]

lol, MS owns Chief. Sony does not own Cloud.

bad comparison.

[Masterchief_thegoat]

Ms will not have a problem putting chief there/s

[DonBugen]

Smash is a monolith in today's gaming world. It's a hyper-exclusive club that many are fighting to be a part of. Face it - when Microsoft is A-OK with allowing Banjo and Kazooie, two characters they essentially out-bid Nintendo on, in Smash, you know that it's a big deal.

Everyone puts in their best to fight with Nintendo's best. Sega? Sonic. Capcom? Mega Man and Ryu. Konami? Solid Snake. Heck, Namco stuck their most iconic character in there.

So if Square Enix is approached to put a character in, who on earth do you think that Square will want in? Black Mage? Onion Knight? Heck no. You go for the big guns. Or sword, in this case.

... honestly, I'm just happy that they didn't go for Lightning. I was sick of her halfway through the first game.

[nintendo1889]

Oh I'm not a big fan of FFXIII, at all, I have a lot of reasons why I'm not fond of the game, the characters in FFVII are far more memorable and vital, they did good with choosing Cloud.

[DigitalRaptor]

The announcement blew me away.

And it makes sense. People aren't thinking about this, but there has to be an underlying reason as to why Cloud is there. Nintendo has new hardware on the horizon - their NX. What if the Final Fantasy VII Remake is coming to that console as well as PS4? That is not impossible. They could port Smash Bros to the NX and have that as a launch title, gather some buzz and then release the FFVII Remake after the PS4 version.
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It's not really fanboy delusion at all. Nintendo does cross-gen remasters, so why wouldn't they do a cross-gen port either? It's not in the realm of impossibility in the slightest, like you're suggesting. Why is it impossible for Nintendo corp. to make that decision for their upcoming console?

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

Nintendo doesn't do cross-gen games.
Sakurai isn't going to port Smash Bros.

Smash Bros. is a one time thing a generation.

It will most likely skip the NX.

[smashman98]

The likelihood of this saddens me but yea its probably true but hey you never know nintendo is sort of restructuring

[RPGrinder]

"They could port Smash Bros to the NX and have that as a launch title" No they could not since they have never done that ever. There is no evidence to suggest that is even in the realm of possibility. That is fanboy delusion.

[smashman98]

Could not because they never have sounds like a silly argument to me especially considering last gen it did happen although sort of in reverse. Twilight Princess

[RPGrinder]

Only a moron would hate this. Square was due a rep. Cloud is there most popular character. Done

[NSG]

I agree, personally it makes since to bring your most popular character to the game.not sure why it caused such an uproar

[Shinox]

NO , if you and your SSB community ( including Nintendo fanboys ) stop spreading these stupid random ballot requests around to Nintendo the industry would have been fine , Cloud being on SSB is just screams a thirst for domination from Nintendo and this is just the beginning , pulling him from the other side into this game is a straight response to Sony in particular since Sony is no longer has share between them and SE , this doesn't make any sense to anyone since history proofs that Nintendo is the last company to talk about Cloud and has no relation with this character in particular regardless of all the cheap cameos he appears in , also stop calling others morons for trivial reasons , i personally don't want Nintendo to dominate 3rd party characters using this cheap overhyped + overrated "rumble arena" game , seriously why are people ok with this all the time when Snake and Ryu appeared in this game , it has 0% adult vibe and it still makes no sense how these characters appears in it .. at least Megaman / Pacman / Sonic will be justified to be in but THESE CHARACTERS in this CHILDISH vibe game !! No , absolutely no , fanboys needs to stop justifying Nintendo actions .. this game from the beginning is meant to include Nintendo characters as Super Smash Bros Not adult type 3rd party "BROS" , if SSB has sexual appealing characters + bloody stuff happening on the screen we would have totally justify Cloud and others to be in this game , but NOPE that's not gonna ever happen in this game and you morons will always take whatever Nintendo shove in your face for the sake of your own good , congratulations Nintendo .. you are officially succeed on making the industry unhealthy for your competitors if you REALLY believe in competition with your arrogant greedy mental .

[smashman98]

Lol is this a troll account

[Shinox]

@smashman98 <<< if someone with a name like this consider this trolling then i have no place for you to open discussion with , I'm done with shady people who consider anything trolling and say nothing , is this a new way to run away from discussions / arguing ?

[smashman98]

Ok... Open discussion? Calling a game childish is childish. You said putting cloud in smash "screams a thirst for domination" smash didn't need cloud and cloud didn't need smash. But gamers love cloud and smash so why not? The only argument against cloud should be the whole "well what's his relation to Nintendo" and to that I say does he rreally need one Outside of being the most iconic rpg character of all time? I don't think so. But even then he has been in games on Nintendo consoles before so if you really need that it's already available

[RPGrinder]

troll. get lost

[marloc_x]

You gotta be cool with Mickey Mouse though!?

Or is Disney plotting against Sony?😮

[Artemidorus]

For how good Nintendo were, how many bad ideas did they do? Having FF7 on N64 only would of changed alot but well done Sony.

I could see it now, FF7 remake on the Nintendo NX

[Neonridr]

well FF7 was originally made for the "Ultra 64" at the time. It was Nintendo's choice to use cartridges that sent them to Sony. If the N64 was a CD based system imagine how that gen would have played out.

[Artemidorus]

Yeah Nintendo might of been in a different direction.

[Ingram]

I couldn't care less for smash b. but for the sake of my stomach stop with the corny headline puns already!

[jznrpg]

I could care less .

[WildArmed]

So will you care less?

[Masterchief_thegoat]

Cloud is money, Sony drones is mad cloud,didn't show up in ps Allstar. As a owner of all three gen console, I have no problem paying to play him 5$ that a steal ^-^

[user8966828]

That's because even square enix knew that game was Sony trying to ripoff Nintendo and smash bros and failed big time even they knew that game was gonna be shit

[DivineAssault]

Im glad he's in it.. It gives me hope that square might actually make exclusive console games for them again.. Plus how amazing is that? All of nintendos rivals from the 90's duking it out! Minus crash bandicoot.. PS all stars didnt even get cloud

[Coachkeys]

I really don't care. The Midgar level with summons is worth it.