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Gran Turismo 6 and the PlayStation 4 – Why They Will Probably Never Meet

"Gran Turismo 6 is being made and it’s going to be released on the PlayStation 3. At least, that’s what every rumour relating to Polyphony Digital’s flagship racing sim is screaming at us. It’s coming, probably at the end of this year and only for the PlayStation 3."

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sinncross4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

I honestly feel that GT6 only being on PS3 is a good sign that EU might not be getting the PS4 this year. Maybe I am wrong and I have no problem with that but EU is really the major GT territory... if PD make a better game than GT5 then perhaps that should be no problem for PS3 owners. Additionally, PS3 should get a price cut and hit a lower barrier market than it has previously had.

And yeah, give DriveClub some space on PS4.

Army_of_Darkness4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

Who cares if GT6 doesn't come on the ps4. That's what GT7 is for..
I'm fine playing GT6 on my ps3 still.
Besides, y'all are right! We have drive club! The motorstorm developers are more than capable of creating a good racing game.

Larry L4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

This article makes all the points I've been saying in regards to PS3 or PS4 for GT6. It obviously HAS to be on PS3. The series has a big appetite for money to even be made at this point. It NEEDS to sell many millions of copies. It can't be on a PS4 launch. It could be a dual release, but it would just canibalize the rest of the launch game sales.

My prediction for PS4's first GT is that if GT6 is an absolute masterpiece, critically acclaimed and is just pretty much perfect in every way, we'll see a PS4 version of the game released about a year after launch, basically the same exact game probably even able to play online with the PS3 version, just with higher rez textures, true/full 1080p 60fps, better offline a.i. etc...... The graphics will be a great upgrade, but the same game.

That will buy PD and Sony a good couple/few years for a ground-up PS4 GT.

If GT6 isn't considered perfect in the public eye, we'll probably have to wait 3-5 years for another full GT built from the ground up for PS4.....probably with a prologue demo for fund raising in between.

I'll be happier, and so will my wallet that GT6 is on PS3. It'll give me something I WANT to play to keep me busy, so I'm able to put off buying PS4 a bit until into the new year. I'm too broke to afford PS4, games for it AND Christmas in a few month period.

COBRA93PR4390d ago

POLIPHONY SAY NO MAKE TWO VERSION OF THE GAME GT6,AND SAY MAKE GT6 TO PS4 ONLY.IS OFFICIAL INFORMATION

3-4-54390d ago

I wish you guys had Forza...it's a solid series...At least then you wouldn't have to wait 6 years for good driving games.

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R_aVe_N4390d ago

I don't think the GT game for the PS4 will be numbered. Kinda of like Killzone and Infamous are not numbered. I still see a GT coming to PS4 at least 1 year after launch.

abzdine4390d ago

they will meet via Gaikai

Salooh4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

PS3 hardly handle gt5. So i'm expecting a ps4 game. It would be a waste if it's a ps3 game..

Salooh4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

So you want the same level with just more content because no way they can improve the graphics/gameplay/visuales/AI with the limitation of the ps3. If it released in Ps3 it will be called GT5.5 because you won't see much differences only in content. You will see. It's not bad getting more content but GT6 can be much better..

But if it released on the ps4 it will be improved in every aspect and then it will worth to be excited for and we will get wow factor. We will enjoy a better sim then now.

Lately, developers started to announce their games on both ps3 and ps4 so i'm all for this idea as long we get a ps4 version and it's stupid to sacrifice the perfect GT game for sales. PD would never miss that opportunity because that's their goal from the start. GT6 is a system seller so it's crazy not to release it for the ps4..

Kennytaur4390d ago

They can improve a lot on the PS3.

First off, they need to target 720p. This should free up rendering budget allowing for better graphics, and dropping Standard cars will help alot too.

Gameplay is not hardware limited other than the controllers, so unless you hunger for touch-inputs it'll be fine.

And AI can surely be improved with the time they've had since 5.

A PS3 GT6 will fund a proper next gen GT7.

Salooh4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

Then why they release the ps4 if the ps3 still can bring us wow factor?. Ps3 can't really improve because history proves that developers used all the power of the ps3. They bring us better games by tricks and having different kind of art like in the last of us, Developers call this squeezing lol. Ps4 can bring us at least 4x better then GT5. Even if they ported GT6 from ps3 to ps4 it still gonna be a lot better in performance. They are sacrificing a lot to improve few things. Why sacrifice when you can get all the stuff you want in ps4 ???

I'm sure PD will release ps4 version. It's ps3 version that i'm questioning. If they release it in ps3 it's about sales not making better game. I'm also shocked how you people don't expect a ps4 GT game. It's obvious even before gt5 released. That's why i said it will be a waste If we didn't get a ps4 version..

Larry L4390d ago (Edited 4390d ago )

@14Feb

You're talking as though GT5 is the epitome of what PS3 has to offer the racing genre. GT5 was probably the very first PS3 game in development, yet got delayed until 2010. It is therefore probably one of the most inefficient uses in terms of PS3's power.

Think of the amazing things Killzone 2/3, Uncharted 2/3, GoW3/A do on PS3 without even an install. That's because Sony 1st party studios made HUGE strides in coding for PS3 in/around 2008, which they all share with each other. Unfortunately GT5's engine was finalised in early 2008 before those advancements could be incorperated into GT5. You need an "open" engine to put those kind of code changes in to a game's engine. Which would have required starting over on GT5.

There is HUGE room for improvement for GT6 over GT5 on the same hardware. As I mention in a reply below, especially if the game is scaled back a bit to 720p.......the sky is the limit for upgrades over GT5.

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Comparing the New Grand Valley in Gran Turismo 7 to the Original

A detailed look at Gran Turismo 7's new track Grand Valley, judging its evolution from its former design and layout in Gran Turismo 6, side by side.

SullysCigar799d ago (Edited 799d ago )

Wow, crazy isn't it? The draw distance is vastly improved, the background textures too and there's ZERO shimmer now. And the replays are night and day!

EIDT: @below, Haha I didn't notice that!

IRetrouk799d ago

Yeah, theres a massive improvment all round, Looks amazing with the time of day transitions too, me and a couple online buddies jumped on earlier to try it out lol, did you notice the beach full of seals?

closed_account799d ago

That coastline looks amazing and I can only imagine it in VR! Looks like an entirely new course as far as scenery goes.

IRetrouk799d ago

Yeah, those views are going to be crazy when we are "there" can't wait!

PureBlood799d ago

Just got confirmation my PSVR2 is shipping by 24 hour courier, so I should have it tomorrow! I know nobody else cares, but I had to tell someone lol

GT7 will be my first game, as I want to test out my wheel - so excited - it's going to be awesome!

Deathdeliverer799d ago

I got my confirmation and date (22nd) showing for the charging station. The headset itself has been in “shipped-processing” status since last Friday. I’m like dang can I see the date? I was in the first round of preorders. Whenever it does get here, I’m ready. Going to go update everything and try to get over this cold.

PureBlood799d ago

Wish you better, bud, fingers crossed for your order too.

@S2Killinit - Thank you!

IRetrouk799d ago

I care👊🏻, mine is still saying prep for shipping😔

PureBlood799d ago

Thanks man 👊

Word of advice: be ready for the impromptu jig that happens when that email drops, it can be embarrassing..

DaReapa799d ago

Just got my second shipping confirmation email as well.

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S2Killinit799d ago

Man i caant wait. One day left!

Flawlessmic799d ago

I know you and a lot of people are excited for VR but dont sleep on sophy, sophy is the real game changer here!

After giving sophy a run last night, i can safely say the actual racing in future GT's is going to be Fu***** amazing!!!

even on intermediate on some tracks the AI was coming back at me on my waiting for me to slip, attacking the space if i left the door open for them, honestly felt like i was racing against people and not some very limited AI that once i passed them they may as well have been eliminated from the race like GT ai normally is.

pump it up to expert and its a real challenge to stay ahead, the next level up from expert man the AI kicked my ass, like badly.

i remember when sophy was first annouced all the nay sayers said its a pipe dream and we will never see it implemented and here we are a yr later and sophy is being tested in game for us to try out and is every good as whats been promised.

VR plus racing against sophy and wowww your not gonna feal like your actually racing for real anywhere else outside of gt.

sophy will change the game in gt8

S2Killinit799d ago

Hm I didnt realize it was like that. I didnt even know why there was so much hype about it. But thanknyou for explaining that. I mean I get it now.

But I’ll be seeing it in action tomorrow! Woot woot.

Flawlessmic799d ago

It's only for a limited time and only has 4 races but I encourage you and everyone else try it and see the difference compared to the normal Ai.

Sophy has slipped completely under the radar in this latest uodate

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Father__Merrin799d ago

Wow gt6 was awesome under appreciated because of time it came out

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv722077d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro2077d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig2077d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright2077d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19922077d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright2077d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk2076d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright2076d ago (Edited 2076d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare22076d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san2075d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19822077d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech2077d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss2077d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX2077d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright2077d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali2077d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm2077d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde2077d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare22076d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright2076d ago (Edited 2076d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk2076d ago (Edited 2076d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX2076d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk2076d ago (Edited 2076d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright2076d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x2077d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke2077d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig2077d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca2077d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis2077d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz2077d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19812077d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z2077d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig2077d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z2077d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King2077d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo 6, Wipeout HD, God of War 3 and more running on PC via the latest RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "It appears that the best Playstation 3 emulator that is currently under development, RPCS3, received a new update recently. kd-11 has implemented new Surface Cache fixes to RPCS3 that reportedly improve the appearance of car reflections in Gran Turismo 6, and fix various graphics glitches in other games."

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gangsta_red2114d ago

If someone out there in internet land could make a decent PS3 emulator imagine what Sony could actually do if they put the time and effort in to make this happen for their next console?

It's definitely not impossible as we can see here. It should definitely be done since BC seems to be very important to Sony this next gen. Imagine PS+ free game offerings from Sony that could include the whole catalog from the PS console family..fantastic.

Silly gameAr2114d ago

Why waste time and money on it? Some people want to move forward, not go back.

Eonjay2114d ago

It's not a deal breaker but having the feature would be amazing. I would rather have it than not have it.

gangsta_red2114d ago

Not everyone feels that way and if Sony is making an issue of supporting PS4 games for PS5 why not support their other past games for people who still have them or a means to buy them and play them.

KwietStorm_BLM2114d ago

You literally just said some people. So I'd imagine you can comprehend that there's a larger subset of people not in that same "some" group. PlayStation used to be known for backward compatibility. Xbox made a big deal about support for their entire catalog. What's the issue with PlayStation, who has an even more substantial history in gaming, tapping into that market? We don't have this problem on PC. It's only a good thing for consumers to be able to bring their games with them through generations on console.

Silly gameAr2114d ago (Edited 2114d ago )

@kwietstorm

Yes, I said some people. What I said was MY opinion. I'm one of those people that couldn't care less about bc, but im not saying ALL people don't care about it. I think they should spend that time and energy for future features and games, but like I said, that's only my opinion.

Imortus_san2113d ago (Edited 2113d ago )

Not every body trows their games way every time the new gen cames along, and everybody that likes games like to be able to play their favorite games in the best possible way.

PS: Retrocompatability is the most requested feature in Sony Foruns, even Sony said so.

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frostypants2114d ago (Edited 2114d ago )

The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile? Are the number of additional consoles PS3 BC would push be enough to justify the cost of developing the emulation (and it would have to be bullet proof)? I like the idea of having it, but for my part not having it won't effect my purchase decision.

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Eonjay2114d ago

You are asking the right question but the wrong way. For me, the addition of PS3 BC would add value as a customer and make it even more likely for me to buy a PS5. If it is valuable to the customer it is valuable to them.

Also, the way they are doing it would be way cheaper than a program like Microsoft had. The are emulating the hardware. Not the software.

gangsta_red2114d ago

"The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile?"

Sony could definitely make some extra profit selling PS3 games through their marketplace (the same way they have their other classics available). It's not about whether or not it will effect anyone's purchase decision, it definitely didn't do so for the PS4. But as others have expressed, it would be a nice addition to have for PS5 if Sony could open up their whole library digitally and physically to users.

ShadowWolf7122114d ago

Racing games should be some of the easiest to emulate and they're still not hitting 60fps with it, to say nothing of image flickering and occasional sound issues.

Still gonna be a bit yet before they have it fully up and running, it seems, and even then it may only work for part of the library. :/

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Gwiz2114d ago

Is it possible to have PS3 emulation on PS5?yes depending on what kind of power it really has.
An i7 9700k is no slouch and the PS4 already has a God of War 3 running much better with less
power required because they converted CBE to X86 which is not something you want to be doing in the long run.

What power would be required to play these games emulated at said PS4 version?.
It's not an easy situation Sony themselves created and ultimately I believe they are happy this way because they
want you to use PSNow,that service is why you will not even get it. (let's not forget that it was a huge investment)

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