A set of photos on a Facebook page of a car manufacturer shows vehicles being scanned for inclusion in 'Gran Turismo PS4'.
(Gran Turismo 6, Next-Gen, PS4, Sony)
That would be a smart idea if they want to push consoles, but a bad idea if they just wanted GT6 software sales. More ps4 because of GT6 but less copies sold because of a smaller install base. Tough decision for SONY.
I honestly don't see it happening. They had that other driving game they are releasing in the launch window, and it being a 1st party title I can't see Sony wanting to compete with themselves. We may see a prologue next year or something though. I'd prefer just a straight out release myself though.
Peppino7, if that logic is true, Gran Turismo 3 shouldn't be the best selling game in the series. Gran Turismo 3 sold better than GT2 and GT4, both which were sold with a greatly established userbase. So, I don't think that argument is valid here.
Given how long Gran Turismo games take to come out, this could take years. The Polyphony Digital guys are perfectionists and program till their fingers fall off. They also have a tendency to add a ton of fluff and extra features no one cares about like photo mode. Knowing PD they'll likely take some art assets from the GT5 cars and pretty them up for GT6, along with perhaps some GT6 native cars that will look jaw dropping I'm sure.
FYI the reason GT3 sold so well as a launch title for the PS2 was because it was the greatest sim racing title for 4 years until GT4 came out. Plus a massive amount of GT3 copies were sold at 20 bucks, and the game was shown off at a ton of car shows, which didn't hurt sales either. If the same is done with GT6 Sony will sell a TON of consoles next gen, but it would have to be done by 2014 to be as effective as possible.
I really don't think it should be rushed just to be a launch title. We all know GT will be on PS4. Releasing it in a state where it left a lot on the table would be worse than not releasing it at all in a specific time frame.
@darthv72. LOL! um....you seem to be disregarding a major factor. Its most likely that GT2, GT4 etc made more money for Sony then GT1 and GT3 JUST based on its built on engine that was already made.
So....make GT6, while making a GT6 engine, is better then making GT6 on an existing engine with a larger install base?
Most gamers seem to think like children. ie more salez, more moneyz. Please stop and think about it in terms of an actual business. 80 million PS3's and a GT6 without the cost of an engine now factored, makes sense then making a PS4 version that now has a less install base and they have to factor in the cost of the engine.
The game will be on PS3. Its an easy business move. I see no reason to make this on PS4. Its even funnier just based on how long PD makes a damn launch GT, yet you guys think there going to launch with one? LMFAO!
um...no. Every PS has had 2 GT's, I see no reason to not do this. PS4 has great launch games, there is no need for a GT on PS4 at this moment. Its time will come, GT6 will be a great GT game on PS3.
As much as I would love GT6 to be a launch title I'm not sure that would be a good business move. One reason is they already announced Drive Club for the PS4 as a launch game. The other reason is the GT franchise is probably their biggest IP. The people who are going to buy a PS4 at launch are likely the ones who bought a PS3 at launch. The hardcore and most loyal customer. So they already have those sales and putting GT6 at a later date would help sell the system to those who might wait a bit.
Of course another way to look at it is Sony not being able to meet demand. If they do stack the launch with a game of this caliber it could really carry momentum for quite some time. That's probably one of the issues facing the Wii U right now, there really isn't a huge title for it right now. Maybe if they had that Zelda game available things might be different.
only thing confirmed here is that you people care more about sales than games.
Only reason I would prefer it be a ps4 title would be because of the limitations of the ps3.But it was already being developed for the ps3, so like I said before it wouldnt truly be a next gen racer ( like drive club) it would just be a ps3 game on the ps4.And as a result there would be a backlash from the uneducated claiming PD are bad devs using last gen engines .. or something along those lines..
Anyway the original article on gtplanet didnt say this was a PS4 title.The guy working there who took the pics and uploaded them said "taking pics for gt ps4".. So if you believe that a guy that works at a car shop taking pictures he wasnt suppose to be taking holds any merit than your in for a suprise. The reson it was taken down was because he wasnt suppose to take pictures.... not because someone said its a ps4 title.
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"The Polyphony Digital team can be seen collecting data in photographs posted yesterday on L.M. Gianetti’s Facebook page. Curiously, the gallery has been titled “SCANSIONE PER GRAN TURISMO PS4″, which translates to “Scanning for Gran Turismo PS4″."
Gta2800 I see why you say that I want a new GT game but all these game X should be release day and X game same thing can't and would be dumb of Sony to do so..
They need all these huge name games to come steady and a few months apart so they always have the so called AAA games coming and not goings months with no games of big name ...
I hear ya. Makes sense to spread em all out. I only said that because Gran Turismo is a flagship title that can push consoles so it seems it would make sense to make it a launch title.
Hey, maybe Uncharted will be announced this E3 as a launch title...you never know *Fingers crossed* lol.
if it were up to n4g folk, all 1st and 2nd party exclusives currently in development (or even those not in development but will be eventually at some point) for PS4 would be launch titles and available on Vita.
Love gran turismo. But i think they need to add better auto specific to each car and a bit deeper customization options.
The customization keeps players around longer in my opinion. Plus, the whole premium and standard car should be a thing of the past since, it'll be a lot easier to upgrade the visuals of the Pre-cars from Gt5 than it was to upgrade the gt4 cars. Huge library is nice, but make them all HD and add something new!
if sony can launch GT6 at launch or soon after launch for PS4 that would be epic, and that would be a huge systems seller
i just hope this time there won't be 1000 cars, just give us 400-500 great looking/driving cars and a lot better online structure. The SIM driving aspect of GT is perfect but some of the features in Forza online community are better so i hope PD pays attention to everything and makes an excellent games
Oh just give me Project CARS wiiu going off NFS U,the wiiu version will be the pc version basically but with these controls,and that game Project CARS has achieved realism end of.
And why is that? I don't think Sony would risk releasing a game that require as many resources on a console that will have nothing but a fraction of the established market share of the already available and cheaper PS3. Besides, they wouldn't advertise a game like Drive Club or whatever it's called on PS4 just to have it overshadowed by Gran Turismo.
It's just a bad business decision from wherever I see it, and let's keep it real, Sony runs a business, I know everyone would prefer to have this on the PS4, but I just don't see it happening.
@PygmelionHunter- Slow down, someone is using logic, business understanding and history to prove his point.......ON N4G!?!!!
Factor in the first GT on PS systems cost more based on the engine, so why would Sony waste more money for an already packed launch?
Mind you, if it takes PD 5 years to make an engine and game, it would mean a GT is STILL 2 years off, 2015 at best. So....it wouldn't happen either way.
It makes senes to have PD's game development team make GT6, while GT's engine team make GT PS4's engine.
Mind you the 3 years it would had took is IF ONLY PS4 DEV KITS EXISTED IN 2010! Its a LONG stretch to say its going to be on PS4.
I'm pretty sure some at Sony already outed it was being worked on for PS3.
@MariaHelFutura As long as GT6 releases a year/half or two after DriveClub it's okay by me. As much as I want the next GT entry I also don't feel it's fair to eclipse what Evolution studios is bringing with DriveClub going by their PS4 presentation they have a lot of passion/heart going into this potential franchise, they certainly deserve another chance given the circumstances that hurt them during Motorstorm Apocalypse's release and honestly the whole Motorstorm series has not got the credit it deserves, I honestly thought Sony was going to close down Evolution studios after Apocalypse's and that Vita/PSN RC game, it surprised me and made my day to see them on stage and that Sony has given them another chance. I just really want Evolution studios to have their time to shine and thrive but a GT releasing around the same time with all the hype that comes with a new GT entry will potentially overshadow Evolution's effort.
oh $hyyyt! Sony is gonna drop bombs @ this upcoming E3 & the nx.. Maybe a dual gen release? who knows but if it was taken down, im sure it had some truth to it.. Sony isnt BSN anymore.. Theyre doing what they do best which is releasing AAA exclusive software.. IMHO, PS4 will be just like PS2 was in its day, undisputed champion of home game consoles.. nx box & wii u will duke it out for casuals, kids, with sprinkles of core games, multiplats, & exclusives..
Well at least Nintendo doesn't lie to gamers and say it is this super hardcore mega bloody gaming console like Microsoft does.
Plus Microsoft's Next Money Pit is going to be retarded. Still going to be $60 a year to play online. No thanks.
Sony better be Champion again! When the PS3 was first released it damn near broke my heart because of how bad it was, here is hoping for an awesome release.
I hope it has vehicle damage or at least dirt/water FX. GT5 was so antiseptic - you could run full-bore into a railing or divide and bounce off like rain.
When games like Rush for N64 had realistic vehicle damage, driving games have no business skimping out a decade later.
GT is a 'simulator' and as such the demand for accuracy is very high. Can you imagine the problems they have persuading car manufacturers to add damage? This is why damage has always been a problem with GT ... not because it can't but because car manufacturers don't want their cars looking less stable in crashes.
That argument is so 1988. Almost all car games show damage now. I simply don't buy that it is the mfg's that are limiting Polyphony. You know who is limiting them? Themselves. They spent so much time modeling cars that they simply lost track of all else. It was all a bit much. The modeling was far and above what the PS3 could even display.
I liked the game, but if it is a SIMULATOR then they need to simulate the damage and it's impact on the vehicle. What they included in GT5 was insulting.
because that is the biggest load of bull of heard otherwise.
Manufacturers jump at the chance to put their cars on Gran Turismo, it's great "free" marketing, so I don't think a little car damage would deter them. it happens in other racing games so that reasoning doesn't fly.
the lack of car damage must be a gameplay design (or lack thereof) because with car damage you'd have to accurately simulate the effect of the damage on car performance, and for that you'd probably have to crash cars in many different ways to collect the data needed. adding accurate damage to +1000 cars is a Herculean task, way way too much money.
whatever the reasoning, I highly doubt your reasoning is true unless you provide hard evidence.
I love being able to slam into the side of another car going 150 mph in order to slow down to 50 mph for that sharp turn and overtake another car all without any repercussions to myself or the other driver, all while maintaining reasonable control over my own vehicle....just like I do in real life.
GT games do a lot of things right, but it is not a true driving simulator. Many things are right, but many things are wrong. It's more a combination of arcade/simulator, and when taken in that context it is a lot of fun.
Additional ly because its has a high rel8ance on physics for car movment and speeds if uou add in deformation the entire physics of the car changes. Drag is increaded turbulance and boundry layer changes would require handling to change. Gt is not just about surface decals of damage those physical changes would effect handling fual us tire wear and all sort.
Keeping my fingers and toes crossed. Truth is ps3 or ps4 it's a definite buy for me. The only GT I skipped was GT4. I was at a point in my life when I did not have the time. So I dropped gaming for about a year. Then in late 2006 I came roaring back. Played a game everyday since then. Still disappointed I missed GT4.
Could be any version. Who knows? Maybe it's not GT6? Or maybe next gen GT will release on PS3/4? Obviously sooner or later there will be a GT game on the PS4. Isn't that quite obvious?
It would then be a direct competitor to Drive Club. Makes absolutely ZERO sense to have 2 1st party racing titles to compete against each other on the same system at the same time, especially at launch.
GT6 will be on the PS3 and GT 7 will NOT take as long to develop and will be out 2 years later on the PS4.
Just using my common sense here, but if Polyphony is only recently scanning cars for an upcoming GT, they're nowhere near ready to release. And Gran Turismo isn't the type of title you surprise announce. No, we'll know it's coming with plenty of time to spare.
Hell, if it WAS going to be a release title, they would have had Kaz come out and say something at the announcement conference. It makes absolutely ZERO sense for them to have GT6 as a launch title and NOT be telling the world about it already.
Well, expecting you to ACTUALLY use sense is a little silly, though. Guess I'll let it slide this time.
its called innovation. Tell me whens the last time GT had direct competition? having a direct competitor might make kaz strive to make an even better GT game then we could have hoped for.
Well, with Drive Club already shown. They should start leaking something. Because it certainly looks like the Playstations are going to have two very high end car simulators to play.
Since when is Drive Club a simulator? It is advertised as a team based racing game. Makes no sense for Sony to make two different race simulation games.
I agree PD are masters and wont rush it but Sony may force them to rush it again like GT5. I hope they don't as I was disappointed with GT5. Yes it has got better with the up dates but that dose not fix the matter it was an unfinished game at the start. I think PD need to repay the fans with GT6 and show us what the PS3 can do and also how good PD are at making a quality game without 8GB or so of updates after.
Gran Turismo for PS4 doesn't necessarily mean GT6, considering it's already crazy dev cycle...
"We also got our first look at kart racing, which, according to Kazunori Yamauchi, “Completely changes the world of Gran Turismo”. He added that the team had been saving this feature for Gran Turismo 6 but, after it had been leaked to the public, he decided to add it to GT5."
This could be cars that are getting scanned for GT7 which will be on PS4, I really doubt that GT6 is coming to PS4. First of all am sure they are going to make an entirely new engine so it can take advantage of the PS4 just like what they did with GT5 on the PS3. GT6 makes more sense on the PS3 cause of the install base, the engine which am sure they tweaked it and made it better than in GT5:-) am a big GT fan and I would love to have GT on PS4 on its first day but I know Kazunori yamauchi would want GT on PS4 as perfect as possible, also GT on PS4 Won't take as long GT5 did on PS3 cause it is an easier system to develop for than PS3 was
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Though the cake alone seems good enough anyway :D
FYI the reason GT3 sold so well as a launch title for the PS2 was because it was the greatest sim racing title for 4 years until GT4 came out. Plus a massive amount of GT3 copies were sold at 20 bucks, and the game was shown off at a ton of car shows, which didn't hurt sales either. If the same is done with GT6 Sony will sell a TON of consoles next gen, but it would have to be done by 2014 to be as effective as possible.
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why risk the possibility of low sales of GT6 on the PS3 when it can be the system seller for the PS4.
I am basing my statement on the trend of GT games in a given platform generation.
GT1 outsold GT2 on the PS1
GT3 outsold GT4 on the PS2
GT5 is the only GT on the PS3
They did it with the next Killzone & Infamous. Wouldn't be surprised if it's done to the new GT too.
They should let Drive CLub have it's time to shine then release GT6 after but not with massive delays like GT5.
So....make GT6, while making a GT6 engine, is better then making GT6 on an existing engine with a larger install base?
Most gamers seem to think like children. ie more salez, more moneyz. Please stop and think about it in terms of an actual business. 80 million PS3's and a GT6 without the cost of an engine now factored, makes sense then making a PS4 version that now has a less install base and they have to factor in the cost of the engine.
The game will be on PS3. Its an easy business move. I see no reason to make this on PS4. Its even funnier just based on how long PD makes a damn launch GT, yet you guys think there going to launch with one? LMFAO!
um...no. Every PS has had 2 GT's, I see no reason to not do this. PS4 has great launch games, there is no need for a GT on PS4 at this moment. Its time will come, GT6 will be a great GT game on PS3.
Of course another way to look at it is Sony not being able to meet demand. If they do stack the launch with a game of this caliber it could really carry momentum for quite some time. That's probably one of the issues facing the Wii U right now, there really isn't a huge title for it right now. Maybe if they had that Zelda game available things might be different.
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Oh shit, I just barely realized I called it Grand instead of Gran. Too late to edit now lmao.
Only reason I would prefer it be a ps4 title would be because of the limitations of the ps3.But it was already being developed for the ps3, so like I said before it wouldnt truly be a next gen racer ( like drive club) it would just be a ps3 game on the ps4.And as a result there would be a backlash from the uneducated claiming PD are bad devs using last gen engines .. or something along those lines..
Anyway the original article on gtplanet didnt say this was a PS4 title.The guy working there who took the pics and uploaded them said "taking pics for gt ps4".. So if you believe that a guy that works at a car shop taking pictures he wasnt suppose to be taking holds any merit than your in for a suprise. The reson it was taken down was because he wasnt suppose to take pictures.... not because someone said its a ps4 title.
What cake? so far we've mostly seen 3-4 iteration of existing franchises and hardly any new exiting IP's.
"The Polyphony Digital team can be seen collecting data in photographs posted yesterday on L.M. Gianetti’s Facebook page. Curiously, the gallery has been titled “SCANSIONE PER GRAN TURISMO PS4″, which translates to “Scanning for Gran Turismo PS4″."
They need all these huge name games to come steady and a few months apart so they always have the so called AAA games coming and not goings months with no games of big name ...
But then again I want uncharted day one lol
Hey, maybe Uncharted will be announced this E3 as a launch title...you never know *Fingers crossed* lol.
thank you for common sense BrunoM.
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But i think they need to add better auto specific to each car and a bit deeper customization options.
The customization keeps players around longer in my opinion. Plus, the whole premium and standard car should be a thing of the past since, it'll be a lot easier to upgrade the visuals of the Pre-cars from Gt5 than it was to upgrade the gt4 cars. Huge library is nice, but make them all HD and add something new!
i just hope this time there won't be 1000 cars, just give us 400-500 great looking/driving cars and a lot better online structure. The SIM driving aspect of GT is perfect but some of the features in Forza online community are better so i hope PD pays attention to everything and makes an excellent games
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It's just a bad business decision from wherever I see it, and let's keep it real, Sony runs a business, I know everyone would prefer to have this on the PS4, but I just don't see it happening.
Factor in the first GT on PS systems cost more based on the engine, so why would Sony waste more money for an already packed launch?
Mind you, if it takes PD 5 years to make an engine and game, it would mean a GT is STILL 2 years off, 2015 at best. So....it wouldn't happen either way.
It makes senes to have PD's game development team make GT6, while GT's engine team make GT PS4's engine.
Mind you the 3 years it would had took is IF ONLY PS4 DEV KITS EXISTED IN 2010! Its a LONG stretch to say its going to be on PS4.
I'm pretty sure some at Sony already outed it was being worked on for PS3.
@ GynGa, Don't be. N4G is filled with rumors and speculations. Just wait till E3 or until Sony announce it.
I guess you mean specifically on Sony consoles.
As long as GT6 releases a year/half or two after DriveClub it's okay by me. As much as I want the next GT entry I also don't feel it's fair to eclipse what Evolution studios is bringing with DriveClub going by their PS4 presentation they have a lot of passion/heart going into this potential franchise, they certainly deserve another chance given the circumstances that hurt them during Motorstorm Apocalypse's release and honestly the whole Motorstorm series has not got the credit it deserves, I honestly thought Sony was going to close down Evolution studios after Apocalypse's and that Vita/PSN RC game, it surprised me and made my day to see them on stage and that Sony has given them another chance. I just really want Evolution studios to have their time to shine and thrive but a GT releasing around the same time with all the hype that comes with a new GT entry will potentially overshadow Evolution's effort.
I would like the game to be released on both systems however improbable that is. That would be different
but but, you can't tell us? I would really like to know.
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Plus Microsoft's Next Money Pit is going to be retarded. Still going to be $60 a year to play online. No thanks.
Sony better be Champion again! When the PS3 was first released it damn near broke my heart because of how bad it was, here is hoping for an awesome release.
The academy edition should of been reviewed I reckon.
I'd call that a master piece!
When games like Rush for N64 had realistic vehicle damage, driving games have no business skimping out a decade later.
The reason for the lack of damage is same for the lack of premium cars featuring in the game. I'm confident that future GTA games will rectify this.
I liked the game, but if it is a SIMULATOR then they need to simulate the damage and it's impact on the vehicle. What they included in GT5 was insulting.
because that is the biggest load of bull of heard otherwise.
Manufacturers jump at the chance to put their cars on Gran Turismo, it's great "free" marketing, so I don't think a little car damage would deter them. it happens in other racing games so that reasoning doesn't fly.
the lack of car damage must be a gameplay design (or lack thereof) because with car damage you'd have to accurately simulate the effect of the damage on car performance, and for that you'd probably have to crash cars in many different ways to collect the data needed. adding accurate damage to +1000 cars is a Herculean task, way way too much money.
whatever the reasoning, I highly doubt your reasoning is true unless you provide hard evidence.
GT games do a lot of things right, but it is not a true driving simulator. Many things are right, but many things are wrong. It's more a combination of arcade/simulator, and when taken in that context it is a lot of fun.
look horrible...joke.
It would then be a direct competitor to Drive Club. Makes absolutely ZERO sense to have 2 1st party racing titles to compete against each other on the same system at the same time, especially at launch.
GT6 will be on the PS3 and GT 7 will NOT take as long to develop and will be out 2 years later on the PS4.
They would come out at different times
Just using my common sense here, but if Polyphony is only recently scanning cars for an upcoming GT, they're nowhere near ready to release. And Gran Turismo isn't the type of title you surprise announce. No, we'll know it's coming with plenty of time to spare.
Hell, if it WAS going to be a release title, they would have had Kaz come out and say something at the announcement conference. It makes absolutely ZERO sense for them to have GT6 as a launch title and NOT be telling the world about it already.
Well, expecting you to ACTUALLY use sense is a little silly, though. Guess I'll let it slide this time.
Ide also love to see a full GT game on the PSV.
"We also got our first look at kart racing, which, according to Kazunori Yamauchi, “Completely changes the world of Gran Turismo”. He added that the team had been saving this feature for Gran Turismo 6 but, after it had been leaked to the public, he decided to add it to GT5."
http://blog.eu.playstation....
However, I hope they focus more on the AI than graphics only.
Infact
GT will never die and we will continue to see it released for decades.