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Halo: MCC's continued woes are a disaster, may derail Xbox One's comeback

Dealspwn: "343i have apologised unreservedly, owning up to the mistakes with clear language that remains respectful of their fanbase rather than insulting the intelligence of consumers with vague waffle.

But does that really make a blind bit of difference here?"

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GodGinrai3457d ago

talk about exaggeration! lol.

Like I didnt play a bunch of halo 3 matches last night. whatever. And maybe if dealspawn were paying attention they would have noticed that MS is working around the clock. Halo MCC has already received its third patch and match making has improved...with more to come.how is progress coming along on the 'other two' games mentioned, in the article?

MS wont leave their biggest game of 2014 ( and their biggest franchise) hanging. And the fact that I can now go into matchmaking and not worry about whether I will find a game at all, anymore, is big progress.

Halo is a game we play for years, so in the grand scheme of things, this will be a distant memory, soon enough, as this WILL be fixed. I cant think of a game that has a larger, more complex, online structure. So while this should not have happened in the first place, I dont expect it to last.

Webbyy3457d ago

lol the Website need hits dude. opinion piece obviously. everyone will have their opinion..if though their opinion is mostly crap.

radler3457d ago

Don't you guys feel angry that you've been sold a broken product? Like, does your allegiance to Microsoft override basic common sense and your consumer rights? Are you really willing to handwave away 343's continued ruin of the Halo franchise because you've got to defend Microsoft at all costs?

It just doesn't make sense to me, especially after having seen so many hardcore Halo fans utterly disgusted and furious at the whole situation, and fed up at 343's continual failures.

Yet here on N4G it seems that 343 and Microsoft can do no wrong and you guys will happily excuse being sold a broken game and cheer for 343 as they slowly kill the greatest franchise on Xbox. Maybe you should step back, try to put aside any fanboy devotions you have and try to look objectively at the whole mess?

I mean if you keep making excuses when things like this happen, what kind of message do you think that you're sending to developers and publishers?

Pogmathoin3457d ago (Edited 3457d ago )

Radler, you are 100% correct, which is why I assume you were very upset at Driveclub being the wreck it was too. Even though Sony has failed to acknowledge it and simply put its hands up and say a fck up is a fck up. Like GTA online, I will play single player till its running well online, unlike that other game. Its not just MCC either, many games for both PS and Xbox are launching in a bad state, and thats a bigger issue than one game.

Radler, your not a fanboy, I see that, but more is pointed at MCC than any other game because its an easy target.

Jdoki3457d ago

@radler

You could replace Halo, 343 and MS with any combo of manufacturers devs and IP's.

People defended DriveClub / Evolution / Sony just as strongly.

People defended Nintendo's use of friend codes on the Wii

I'm pretty sure I saw some people defending Assassins Creed Unity.

This is not exclusive behaviour to XBox fans, it's universal fanboy behaviour.

TomShoe3457d ago

To be fair, while 343i working on it is a good thing, this doesn't change the fact that it should have been working at launch, when most people were dropping $60 for the promise of a working game. The same problems were had with both Driveclub and Unity. Just because it's Halo doesn't mean it's immune to criticism.

LordMaim3457d ago

Halo MCC, Assassin's Creed Unity, Driveclub, GTA Online, basically every game created by Bethesda ever...

Too many games these days are shipped in a horribly unpolished state, relying on a day 1 patch to fix bugs that should have been captured in the QA cycle. I can't even think of the last time I turned on a game and wasn't immediately required to update before playing for the very first time.

The game industry is a horrible mill of forced overtime, layoffs at the end of development, bonuses contingent on Metacritic scores, weaponized embargos, pre-order culture, day 1 DLC, on-disc DLC, cut content that becomes DLC, and microtransactions. It makes me sad that my favorite hobby comes at the expense of such egregious anti-consumer practices.

Biggest3457d ago

"Radler, you are 100% correct, which is why I assume you were very upset at Driveclub being the wreck it was too."

Sony too, huh? I remember a time when Halo was THE console FPS. Now people are comparing Driveclub, a brand new game made by a studio with limited comparable online/multiplayer experience, to Halo. I wonder if the Playstation brand would suffer without Driveclub. I know that the Xbox brand would suffer without Halo, seeing as how Halo is the main reason it exists today.

Halo is an easy target because it isn't supposed to be a target. When Bungie was in charge there was no questioning the quality of Halo. Yet here we are.

Cream3457d ago

I bought the Master Chief Debacle and I will not let MS or 343 get a Hall Pass on this one.
Don't defend 343 just to support some silly Console war.

otherZinc3457d ago (Edited 3457d ago )

@radler,

Halo Master Chief Collection
By 343i:

4 Games
Campaign Co-op in each
Splitscreen Campaign Co-op each
Skulls in all 4 games
Terminals in Halo 1 & 2

All new Forge Mode:much better than that shi**y LBP3; and Halo had Forge Mode before LBP.

Halo 2 is running 2 engines at once!

All 4 Halo Games are running in its separate code they released in.

All 4 Halo Games has their own multiplayer.

Halo Nightfall Movie Series.

All cinimas.

Halo Channel.

Now, what game can you buy for $60, that has all that?

Should multiplayer have worked at launch?, Absolutely! However, given the extent of that package; THE FACT THAT M$ HAS NEVER HAD AN ONLINE PROBLEM LAUNCHING AN EXCLUSIVE!, Yeah, I'll give them a pass on this ONE TIME f-up.

As for Sony & their games, it's an every game launching patch dropping f-up!
Drive Club still doesn't work after talking all that s**t about Forza Motorsport 5! And Forza Motorsport 5 has been working Flawlessly for a solid year; with its 200+cars, while Drive Club only has 50!

Back to Halo Master Chief Collection; I've been playing Campaign Co-op since it launched! Also, some Legendary on Halo:CE. And:Campaign Co-op is something that can't be found in ANY PS4 Exclusive.

GodGinrai3457d ago

@radler

"Don't you guys feel angry that you've been sold a broken product?"

Its a 50 quid game. One that they WILL fix.

I work in music production and have bought software plug-ins that cost more than both these consoles combined, that needed patching, at some point. I get mad when there is a fuck up in my waves mercury bundle that set me back £1200. I am not mad about ONE game not working properly (a temp situation), when all my other games work just fine online. And I simply dont get as upset as many of you guys do about video games. That is clear from the disagrees in my original statement

using that as a beacon of my perspective on things...lets move on to this statememnt...

"Like, does your allegiance to Microsoft override basic common sense and your consumer rights?"

You are make an awful lot of assumption, without knowing my perspective. and then just ran with your own assumptions ( about me...a person you dont even know, in ANY capacity)You are lucky I even bothered to respond, when you come with crap like this. As I said above. I have FAR more important things that I get upset about, when it comes to software that doesnt work properly out the box.

"Are you really willing to handwave away 343's continued ruin of the Halo franchise because you've got to defend Microsoft at all costs? "

again...too much assumption and too little perspective of me as a person in your post. where do I condone the release of a "broken" game, as you described it? Your whole post is based on a nonsense accusation you make against me..and yet you get agrees. N4G is nothing if not a circus full of idiots. The game was released with a not properly functioning component.FACT.They are fixing the issue. FACT. What do you want from them? a boquet and an apology note. Do you even own an XB1 with halo, to even be this concerned, yourself? because your comment history suggests otherwise...But Ill spare you any assumptions you have left me to make about yourself...

were you THIS bothered by peoples nonchalance to a game, when they said "its ok, I can play DC offline, just fine?

"Yet here on N4G it seems that 343 and Microsoft can do no wrong and you guys will happily excuse being sold a broken game and cheer for 343 as they slowly kill the greatest franchise on Xbox"

LMFAO...at what point in my comment did I say they can do no wrong? and since when was my lack of concern YOUR concern?

Its laughable that you got agrees, when all you did was make an assumption about me and my stance...with ZERO perspective.

Just go ahead and call me a fanboy and be done with it. You are not concerned about halo, You simply want to argue, about shit that dont bother me as much as you.

Convos like this remind me why I am done with N4G, going into 2K15. Most of the time i feel like i am responding to idiots, incapable of making a point without, without throwing their own fanboy BS into the mix.. And I guess I have to be an idiot with you as long as I have an N4G account.But that ends next month.

3-4-53457d ago

Radler.....I wasn't sold anything. I didn't buy it.

Many of us had our fun with Halo in the past and the only one we will play is the new Halo 5.

So it's not really as big a deal as people are making it out to be.

If it was Halo 5 doing this......THEN for sure you'd have a real issue, but even then IT'S JUST ONE GAME.

DLConspiracy3457d ago (Edited 3457d ago )

@radler

Nobody is giving 343 a pass I think most are hopeful because they love the Halo Franchise and want to play. It doesn't always have to be a console war thing. We don't need to drag crap like this into it. Just to rub peoples nose in it like you are. There is hypocritical statements in here somewhere if you are not equally upset about drive club and you know it. Let's stop playing concern troll and just go back to playing games. There is no need to act like children and say "well he started it". Cant we just get back to playing games On ANY system.

Back on topic. I hope 343i gets it together. I really want to play some quick matches and have less wait times. The matches I have played have been amazing and nostalgic.

Cream3457d ago (Edited 3457d ago )

OtherZinc:
you are compare Master Chief Debacle to crap... Drive Club.
You put the Master Chief in the same boat.

I spent 35 minutes looking for games last night and found 1... it was 3 on 5.

I want my money back. simple as that.

Defending Crap makes you look like crap.

F 343.

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FuzzyPixels3457d ago

Not saying the game is bad, far from it (we gave it full marks). But the launch has been. And it does matter heading into the busiest retail week of the year. I really hope MS and 343i turn it around, and communication has been good (a point made in the article), but this has hurt them. You don't want to be heading into Black Friday with your flagship game half broken.

And as for those "other two" games, we gave them an absolute roasting for their awful launches. Having held off for some time, would be double standards if we didn't do the same for 343 at this point.

miyamoto3457d ago (Edited 3457d ago )

Maybe the Halo:MCC was rushed to the market in connection to the $50 price cut to help gain momentum?

MS has that habit of rushing in a bad product to beat the competition to it and marketing the hell out of them. They do have the cash to damage control after wards.

DonFreezer3457d ago

I'm seeing a complete bias against Microsoft and Nintendo from all those payed sony reviewers. How can people down vote Smash because of bad online and keep giving 10s to the Last Of Us remaster witch had online problems too.

http://community.us.playsta...

Why didn't they review The Last Of Us in this manner too like they did with Halo The Master Chief Collection and Smash Wii U?

FriedGoat3457d ago (Edited 3457d ago )

Last of Us Campaign is amazing, this is why. The multiplayer is an added bonus.

Unlike halo, where the multiplayer is where it really shines.

Don't get me wrong, I love halo, but the singleplayer isn't it's strongest part.

radler3457d ago (Edited 3457d ago )

@FriedGoat

That's pure fanboy nonsense, and you know it. Making excuses for one game having the exact same problems as another is absurd.

ANY game that launches broken should be criticized for it, and just because TLOU is a PlayStation exclusive, doesn't mean it should be held to different standards than any other game. Broken multiplayer is broken multiplayer.

Edit: @Gamerbeyond. Yes, TLOU was broken at launch, which is why Naughty Dog made the DLC map pack free as an apology.

Gamerbeyond3457d ago

the last of us wasnt broken when it was released on ps4, thats why

Lawboy23457d ago (Edited 3457d ago )

Been saying this for sometime now but ppl make excuses for last of us...it's funny because I was there when these issues occurred on the last of us and it was like two weeks before it was fixed and at the time I even made excuse because I was saying that I believe not enough ppl were trying to play the online that was why it was taking so long to find a match...we would literally be sitting there for like ten minutes trying to start a match on the last of us...

but it never received even close to the amount of ridicule halo has received simply because halo is on Xbox one and biased gamers need something to latch on because of how bad ppl treated driveclub...which by the way was also uncalled for....the issues with MCC is in no way near the problems bf4 had at launch I should know I was there for that as well....I have been able to get into matches since the second day of the release...and I understand that some gamers are luckyer than others but I feel some of the backlash is unwarranted and only occurs because it is on the Xbox one....

sucks for 343 who you can see are trying but to no effect....and this piss poor Fanbase on the Xbox side is ridiculous....I actually hate the way the Xbox fans responded to this incident...Sony fans would not have been so quick to dismiss a game/dev because they actually support first party studios which may be the reason they have better first party studios....

badz1493457d ago

@DonFreezer

LOL bias against MS and Nintendo? specifically towards MCC and Smash? where were you when reviewers gave high scores like candy to MCC neglecting the online issue or bad online like you said earlier on?

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

so much bias, ha? /s

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breakpad3457d ago

like it or not Killzone SF trumps this broken crap everytime ...but Xbone fans cant see nothing beyond Halo even if it has the worst downfall since the release of the 1st game

headblackman3457d ago

you are 100% right and everyone knows it (whether you like xbox one or not), but it's something that certain individuals don't wanna acknowledge, because it puts good focus on striving efforts of the xbox camp compared to the other camp. if there's a problem, microsoft corrects it. if there's a problem in the playstation camp, it's just swept under the rug.

traumadisaster3457d ago

What an apologist, they effed it up like a ton of other recent games.

Release day buying has now stopped for me, the concept is really beta testers paying to play early.

I've got 100 years of backlogs and have no incentive to keep going.

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Fro_xoxo3457d ago (Edited 3457d ago )

What a headline. . Whatever it takes to get hits.

I would probably exploit ignorant fanboys also. .

It's the smart thing to do. :)

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tdogchristy903457d ago

Looking for honest opinions.

This game was what made me want an xbox one. I found a bundle over Black Friday I might try and snag. Now what make me want this was to replay the original campaigns in all their glory as I'm an old timer from the original series...

So my question is this, how have the campaigns turned out in terms of quality, bugs, etc? I'd love to get into this but don't want to find issues from the xb1 transfer when I can just easily play on 360.

Thanks.

Bennibop3457d ago

Single player is OK in general, there are some framerate issue and some minor glitches. If you are buying for the multiplayer (which I did) its a different matter, matchmaking continues to be poor for lots of people even with the latest patch and game modes have been stripped out. I got a refund but if you are only interested in single player you will be fine.

vikingland13457d ago

@tdogchristy90
I am loving the campaign and I haven't had any bugs yet. from what I'm finding out from other stories is the bugs affect others while not at all for some. I guess I'm lucky.

MSBAUSTX3457d ago

All single player campaigns are freaking amazing. Playing these in HD and 60 FPS is a real treat. Halo 2 looks amazing and some how Halo 4 looks next gen compared to its orriginal. I have only played about 5 or 6 matches online, but I didnt have any issues getting in to a match each time. If there is a problem with multiplayer I havent seen it as others have.

It comes down to what you want to do but trust me, you will be playing campaigns for hours and hours. Plus try to find the hidden terminals in games to find some cool side footage to add to the story. Without the multiplayer this game would still be the best single player FPS game on the planet.

Buy it dude. Besides these "issues" wont last forever and in the meantime play some co op on halo 1 and 2 with a buddy online and have the time of your life.

Nolando3457d ago

For me the single player has been amazing, no problems what so ever.

Multiplayer has gotten better despite the doom and gloom articles.

I will admit that there needs to be more fixes, I now can find a match in under 5 minutes but I played 3 games last night before bed and every game on team halo 2 Anniversary playlist it would throw us in with 7 total players so one team was shafted with 3 players against 4 which means usually one person or two quit on that team meaning its a boring manhunt for one guy on the map.

So imo you will find games, the gameplay is amazing but there are still weird matchmaking issues that bug even me and im a halo nut.

bohemian 233457d ago

The only problem I had with sp is that a few times after I shut down my Xbox, I would go to play and my game wouldn't save the last level I played. It only happened twice, and I just played through again. Other than that the campaign was a really fun time for me again. Mp is the only problem I'm having. I haven't tried for a few days now, but it was taking me up to 10 minutes to find a game, if I could get into one even.

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Gamer4life8883457d ago (Edited 3457d ago )

i cannot believe fanboys are still defending this disaster lol...

pyramidshead3457d ago

People had no trouble crucifying Driveclub for the exact same woes, which were just to be fair, the game launched broke.

Difference is, Driveclub was a new IP from a B-Tier first party studio.

Halo MCC is not only a flagship IP, it's a collection of past flagship titles all bundled, that are most praised for their online multiplayer, by an A Tier first party studio.

Halo MCC is a bigger disaster than Driveclub and came at a time where the Xbone had just picked up in sales too. Woops.

Blank3457d ago

EEE! Coming in strong about Evolution studios but you do have point about the comparison. This remaster isnt just some remaster its effing master chiefs trilogy! To all MCC owners affected I hope it gets sorted away soon.

OC_MurphysLaw3457d ago

While both games are broken on the MP side they are not similar. MCC wasn't delayed a full year with a promised free subscription version only to be released broken and the free version put on hold indefinitely.

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Five Games to Play While Waiting for Armored Core 6

The newest From Software game is just around the corner. These are five excellent games to play while waiting for Armored Core 6.

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Si-Fly274d ago

Can I suggest BG3 as a 6th? It’s helping me pass the time quite well.

anast274d ago

I'm still trying to finish WotR.

DivineHand125274d ago

With the release date being just a little over a week away, it may not be a good idea to burn yourself out on mech games until then.

RavenWolfx273d ago

i want a Chromehounds sequel so bad...

raWfodog273d ago (Edited 273d ago )

Surprised that the article didn’t mention Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries if we’re talking about mech-related games.

ZeekQuattro273d ago

It was an odd article imo. Like why are games that feature a handful of mech themed levels in there. When I think of mech games I don't think Halo and Wolfenstein no matter how fun those levels were.

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Best Xbox Game Studios Franchises

These are some of the best and most popular video game franchises now owned by Xbox Game Studios and Microsoft.

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Sciurus_vulgaris283d ago (Edited 283d ago )

Microsoft was involved with Halo, Gears, Forza, Ori, Flight Simulator and Fable from early development, I will give them credit for those franchises. Fallout, Elder Scrolls and Doom were established franchise before being acquired by MS.

Crows90282d ago (Edited 282d ago )

Exactly. They had nothing to do with their most popular franchises now.

Their old franchises are dwindling and pretty much non-existent.

They've had perfect dark in the chamber this whole time and haven't done squat...that tells you the kind of company they are. Fable is another franchise that's been destroyed and ignored...let's see how the new game turns out.

Profchaos281d ago

Yeah perfect dark, banjo conquer ms seems to kill more franchises then they like to admit while pretending to care about others like hexen

Sitdown282d ago

Given the article specifically says "now owned", what made you feel the need to do a break down?

thesoftware730281d ago

Sit-down,

Because it's N4G and any opportunity to shit on MS is never missed.

Rude-ro282d ago

Gears is not.
It was the same as mass effect:
Just contracted.

closed_account283d ago (Edited 283d ago )

Ah yes, feels like forever ago since Microsoft created Skyrim. So much so, I had actually forgotten they had created it and the other Elder Scrolls games! 🤔

*They really shaped my preteen years w the original Doom too!

ocelot07282d ago

Don't forget the original Elder Scrolls way back in 1994 or fallout in 1997.

Sitdown279d ago

So you don't understand the combination of "now owned"?

Crows90282d ago (Edited 282d ago )

I fully expect all these popular franchises to be killed off by Microsoft. Just a matter of time.

Unless they take a huge distance approach which pretty much means they don't ba e anything to do with the games being made ...in that case the franchises should be fine. But then...they shouldn't really get credit.

DOMination-282d ago

"I fully expect all these popular franchises to be killed off by Microsoft. Just a matter of time."

Based on what?? Microsoft usually gets stick for releasing too MANY games in their franchises, to the point where it's quite a long-running joke - one I'm sure you've partaken in before.

Pretty much all of their major IP has had releases in the last five years or have upcoming releases scheduled so I see no evidence whatsoever for this claim.

"Unless they take a huge distance approach which pretty much means they don't ba e anything to do with the games being made"

But.. They HAVE been very hands-off for a long time and have drawn lots of criticism for it?

fr0sty281d ago

See: All of Rare's games

DOMination-281d ago

I really wouldn't say that MS have let Rare franchises die. They've just had the freedom to create new IP in Sea of Thieves and Everwild. MS are currently developing a Perfect Dark game, licensed Killer Instinct out, Rare themselves released several compilations and several Banjo games as well as PDZ in the past.

I'm not sure what else you could want. They can only make one game at a time. You can't say MS let all their franchises die but also be annoyed that they allow their studios to make new IP.

Profchaos281d ago

If that's the case where my banjo or conquer sequel why didn't I get sunset overdrive 2 oh yeah not enough bro in those games

ChasterMies282d ago (Edited 282d ago )

EA is a good example of what can happen to a franchise when a larger corporation buys up studios from a smaller corporation. Quarterly earnings should never matter more than quality.

wiz7191281d ago

@Crows that is the case , Zenimax is operating independently of MS and have full creative freedom to do what they want. Zenimax games aren’t being published under XGS ,

ravens52282d ago

Soon Microsoft will be known for making Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Candy Crush, Call of Duty etc. Lmao they know what they're doing. Especially with the archiving issue the gaming industry has.

closed_account282d ago (Edited 282d ago )

Microsoft built the game industry. Microsoft invented games. Didn't you know? ;)

**What a bizzaro world we live in where the losers can become the winners overnight.

Hypertension140282d ago

@ravens52

What are those franchises you're talking about?
Activision/Blizzard only makes Call of Duty and Bethesda has Elder Scrolls and Starfield only, stop making it seen that is much more anti competitive/consumer than it actually is.......

Profchaos281d ago

Zero creative vision and the ability to bankroll it by purchasing everything that everyone else had success with even Halo wasn't technically theirs Bungie had to sell it to them to become independent

Atari6052B282d ago

You mean any studio Microsoft could acquire to flog last gen games on game pass ... What happened to HD-DVD that Microsoft pushed so hard ...

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Games with the dumbest NPCs

Non-playable characters in certain games are meme material, thanks to their foolish behavior. These are the big-budget games with the dumbest NPCs.

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closed_account284d ago (Edited 284d ago )

Bethesda makes the most consistently stupid NPCs, like really bad... yet I still can't help but love playing their games. Guilty pleasure, I guess. *sigh* 😩

Flawlessmic283d ago

How did redfall not make the cut.

anast283d ago (Edited 283d ago )

Every Bethesda game and Every Halo game. This list needed to have Cyberpunk somewhere.