Will The Xbox One X Outsell The PS4 Pro?

ThisGenGaming says "The PS4 Pro will have had a one year head start but can power and hype of the Xbox One X beat the cheaper and earlier release PS4 Pro?"

[Gazondaily]

What in the States? Maybe for the first few months but at that price point; it will struggle post launch I reckon.

Worldwide; no.

[alb1899]

Forza7 ir Shadow of War bundle could happen too.

[tyasia0]

That's unlikely to happen at launch.

[Ju]

Not when those bundle price will elevate this thing into the $600 region...

[Orpheo]

Agree.

Ultimately both will sell well below the current install base of their original models. I think both are rather pointless as 4k gaming still isn't popular. Lets focus on getting every game to run at 1080p 60fps first, then we can talk about 4k.

[Bigpappy]

I think it will in the U.S by a substantial amount. In fact, I expect the X to sell so well in the U.S that the total Xbox sales in NA will exceed those of the PS4 in just 1 year. But I will wait and see... could be wrong. to be continued in a year.

P.S. Perception of Power, with strong 3rd party support, will win the day over exclusive with weak hardware.

[tyasia0]

Strong 3'rd party support... Oh you mean like Sony with Destiny, Call of Duty and Red Dead Redemption 2, not to mention Japanese games.

P.S. Xbones perception of no games.

[Bigpappy]

they are just deal. those games will be better on the X

[Dark_Knightmare2]

That isn't going to happen lol and yeah the pro is weak compared to the x1x but not substantially so and it's not weak in general. Ms isn't going to have 3rd party support that is any stronger then what Sony is going to have not to mention Sony gets all the big third party marketing deals. The exclusives don't matter much argument from fanboys is getting redundant especially since this last year as shown that to be ridiculous. A 500 dollar system isn't going to outsell the 400 dollar one regardless of power difference and that's ultimately why the x1x isn't going to outsell the pro

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Yeah those games will be better on x1x but just like the pro that will be such a minuscule population of the gaming market compared to owners of og PS4 and x1 that people aren't going to care especially since most gamers don't even have a 4K tv to take full advantage of both systems. Oh and yes there's supersampling on all games for people who don't have a 4K tv but that isn't something that's worth 500

[XanderZane]

Has Sony even told us how many PS4 Pro's have sold yet? I thought they announced it had sold over 1 million, awhile back, but I haven't seen any new numbers. I doubt Microsoft will provide any sales numbers for the XB1X either. Maybe right after launch, but that's about it.

[Aenea]

1 in 5 PS4's sold is a Pro, find the sold numbers right from before release and from right now, subtract, divide by 5 and you have the number....

[notachance]

oh believe me if it outsell PS4 they will provide it in every media they can think of

[S2Killinit]

It will sell for a few months then it goes back to normal xbox sales tragectory.

[gutteranthems]

I agree. I don't think MS will ever outsell PS in Japan.

US, and Eastern Europe, for sure. But Sony will still have better worldwide sales.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Except sony is ahead by about 2 million in the us right now and even more in Europe so yeah

[LordMaim]

The real question is will Microsoft start releasing sales figures? Outlook not so good.

[FallenAngel1984]

Who really cares about the sales comparisons of iterative consoles?

Besides that it was difficult for XO to outsell PS4 even when it had a cheaper price during 2015, so it's unthinkable an even more expensive XO could outsell the iterative PS4

[Miss_Weeboo]

I think not. Too expensive, more expensive than the pro and no real reason to get one (exclusives), you could argue that you'll get a better 4K experience or whatever, but that's not reason enough for a casual (let's call it not-hardcore) to get one. You can't surpass your competition only with your loyal hardcore fans.
I remember 3 years ago thinking that the TV/Xbone/kinect reveal was a disaster, and the Xbox fans calling me crazy. But here we are, three years later Xbox completely lost the one market they absolutely dominated in the 360 gen... not even worth to mention worldwide.

As with all things, Time will tell. We'll see. I don't own the truth, and if I'm wrong, it won't be the first time

[Krysis]

If casuals are your argument then exclusives don't really play a part. Very few casuals buy exclusives, they buy the biggest names and the highest rated, if that happens to be an exclusive then I'm sure it gets picked up by the casual crowd. Like uncharted. I bet not many of those people picked up Nioh or Persona, those are for gamers with more refined tastes.

[bluefox755]

If it's not exclusives, then why do you think Xbox is getting beat so badly this gen? You could argue price and E3 in the beginning, but they have remedied those things, and have not even come close to catching up. If it ain't games, then what is it? Last gen, PS3 had some similar issues in the beginning, and had a very rough first year or so, but after they fixed their issues, PS3 came back with a vengeance and ended up outselling 360. Xbox is not having a similar comeback story this gen though. If it ain't the games, I don't know what it is.

[Elda]

I highly doubt the PS4 is in first place worldwide because of multi-plats.It's the PS4 genre of unique exclusives that is selling the console.

[Miss_Weeboo]

Why the PS4 outsells the Xbox One, 2:1 (or even more)? . Do you think those 60 millions + are all hardcore? Most of them are casuals... Then What made them choose PS4 over Xbone. I can't see any other reason than the exclusives... Both consoles kind of perform with the same quality (slightly better in the PS4?), you can play 3rdP in both consoles... So, what made the PS4 desirable for them?
You mention nioh and persona (and I totally agree those seem to be hardcore exclusives, a jrpg and a Dark Souls type of game? idk about the "refined tastes" thing) But that same people that bought Uncharted are also probably going to buy exclusives like Spiderman and God of War... Sony has exclusives for different kind of gamers

[ElementX]

PS4 started strong with early adopters and after the first year it's selling because people want to play with their friends. The biggest selling games are multiplat online shooters. A lot of the exclusive single player games don't even sell 3 million

[zerocarnage]

Yeah unless it's a well known exclusive with a built name your majority of casual gamers won't buy many exclusives they don't know. Your casual gamer is sticking with big sale well known big developer games that sell more than most exclusives do.

[Krysis]

If I had to guess I would say obviously the games first, but most importantly is friends and word of mouth. I'm sure most every casual has a hardcore gamer as a friend and listens to their advice and through that word of mouth. It's why the 360 was successful. And it takes many years to recover from a disaster like the Xbox reveal, MS knows this and that is why we steady improvements to their brand because they know over time they can win some back but it will be next gem before they are able to compete with Sony again if they ever can again.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

@bluefox755

For the very reasons you and your buddies ignore:

1) $400 PS4 vs. $500 Xbox

Oh isn't that the same argument on why the X won't sell as much....price...how convenient

2) PS4 performed.better out the game and was easier to program

Look at ever gen...if you can nail price per performance, ease of development then there is a good chance you'll succeed. If you stumble out the gate good luck.

[rainslacker]

Casuals do buy things like Halo, Gran Turismo, Forza, COD, Battlefield, AssCreed, Destiny, Madden, etc. While some may like the idea of better looking, for things like GT, it'll sell the PS4 regardless. Halo and Forza probably already captured most of the people interested in them, and some of those people will upgrade. COD, BF, Destiny, they'll probably go where the content is, and not worry so much about the power. Madden, will probably go with the cheapest console, although given that PS4 has significantly more users right now, it's more likely people will pick up a PS4 to play with friends.

X1X's more power is not really going to help it with the casuals, but Sony has most of the deals which will secure the casuals, and GT is one of those games which attracts casuals. Given the rather small difference in price between the PS4 and PS4P, there is a chance many will choose to pay a bit more....either because they don't know the difference, or don't feel the price difference is signfiicant enough to not just get something a bit better.

[Chevalier]

Casuals do buy the big games though. Who has the advertising rights and the chance to bundle those games? Sony.

Fifa 18 (Huge in Europe)
Destiny 2
Starwars Battlefront 2
COD WW
Red Dead Redemption

As for your 'not much' people bought comments, Nioh sold over a million in a month, Nier Automata over 1 million, Persona 5 over 1.5 million and Horizon ZD over 3.4 million. Which Xbox One exclusive in the last year moved over a million copies in one month other than Gears 4? Seems you shouldn't bet or gamble. You'd probably lose as those games play heavily to statistics. It all adds up. The game system with all the multiplats and more exclusives i.e. options make it a better purchase. Also playing multiplayer with your friends is another reason too.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Lol nice comparing 60 dollar games to a 500 dollar console that makes total sense

[OB1Biker]

I mostly agree with what you said.
What I was trying to say is we might know only PS4 and BX1 numbers if approximates. I'm not sure if Pro vs X numbers debate is relevant if even we would ever know.
They are only a fraction part of their console 'family' PS4 and XB1 after all
Some media tend to see it like the start of a new gen competition and some people run with it.

[Major_Glitch]

MS "absolutely dominated" a market last gen? What, the US? No they didn't. They had a good head start, but at the end of the gen, Sony was outselling it here too.

[Shadyceaser]

If developers push the thing and we see all the best looking multi platform games on the one X... It will sell a lot. Imo

[trooper_]

Yeah...no.

XBox1 needs enticing exclusives to draw people in.

[JackBNimble]

I hope it sells as well as you think , but sadly the only people who would care to buy it already own an xbox .

[Condemnedman]

so only people who own an xbox wants to purchase an xbox one x. where did you pull those made up facts from. you haven't go a clue who will buy it.

[JackBNimble]

Even MS will tell you the target group is the hard core gamer and not the casual. Are you going to tell me hard core PS4 gamers or PC gamers are going buy an X1X? Maybe some will ... but most won't , so that only leaves you with excited Xbox fanboys 😁

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Lol yeah because graphics are the most important thing to gaming. How about the fact that a very very small percentage own a 4K tv to even take advantage of the x1x and that gamers don't care about graphics as much as price,playing with friends,games both third party and exclusive etc. Graphics when it comes down to it are low on the priorities of what's important to gamers and like every other gen as shown power doesn't matter one bit.

[Shadyceaser]

I for one don't care that is $500 as people seem to forget that the ps3 was $600 .. 10 or 11 years ago ... Fact right there.
Graphics are important to me maybe not to you...... It's not the most important thing ... But half a k for the most capable console is a steel.

4k TV's are getting cheaper by the month ... I will buy one at the same time I am thinking.
But every one is different so whatever.

[jokerisalive]

In the states maybe at first but not long term. PS4 is too popular globally and the Pro will get a price drop at some point and be a lot less possibly.

[LP-Eleven]

In a word: no.

[Bobafret]

Probably not.

[bluefox755]

For the first few months it's out, it may, if you're only comparing sales of that month as opposed to overall sales. It won't come close in overall sales. Even if you ignore Xbox's software issues, which I assert is a large part of the reason PS4 is outselling it by so much, it's still $100 more,

[guyman]

Games like Nioh, nier, horizon and persona 5 has put the Ps4 on a completely different level than the xbox one if you ask me and it's reflecting in sales

[stonecold3]

no because ps4 has already won this generation it might out sell ps4 in states for a few moth then it will died down again world wide ps4 has locked down and in japan the xbox just a write off

[Elda]

Nope.

[marquisray]

Well put me down for two, the ps 4 when it first came out people only talked about power, now we have it power, also why buy a xbox when it do not play 3rd party games as good as the ps4, the tables have turned, people talk about games, please tell me ps comes out every month with exclusives, I thought not, I'm not a pc guy, I like to play my games my way. I can see buying a Sony if they came out every month with a new exclusive, but we all know that's not true. I also think Sony catered to there fans, they wanted a cheap system and that's what they got, remember you pay the price for what you get, you go cheap you get cheap

[tyasia0]

PS4 does have exclusives every month.

July:

Fallen Legion
Accel World Sword Art Online

August:

LawBreakers
Hellblade
Suddon Strike
Uncharted Lost Legacy
One Piece
Warriors All Stars
Yakuza Kiwami
Eeverybody's Golf
Senran Kagura Peach Beach Slpash

September:

Touhou Kobuto V
Knack 2
Y's VIII
Blue Reflection
Danganronpa V3
Monster from the Deep
Bubsy

November:

GT Sport
Ni No Kuni 2

December:

Tokyo Xanadu EX+

[Shadyceaser]

And the only one I will play is GTsport

[guyman]

Shadycaser

Ok cool.

Meanwhile there are a lot of other games on the list that a lot of other people will be interested in. You are not the be all and end all as you may think.

[Shadowolf]

And I will be playing:

LawBreakers - (Pre-Ordered)
Hellblade - (Pre-Ordered)
Uncharted Lost Legacy - (Pre-Ordered)
Yakuza Kiwami
Everybody's Golf
Knack 2
Monster from the Deep
GT Sport - (Pre-Ordered)
Ni No Kuni 2 (Pre-Ordered)

Exclusive really do matter!

[Shadyceaser]

Guy man ... I never said that ... Maybe you open your eyes and read my comment.... I said "I will be playing" not anyone else.

And where in my comment did you get that garbage from??????

[rainslacker]

I dunno if 4 years into the generation if power is really that important anymore. The mid-gen premise while interesting, seems like it's not really going to ignite the fire of console buyers. It hasn't with the PS4, and it's unlikely to with the X1X. Most of the hardcore have already dived in. The casuals aren't as fussed about power. The mid-gen is more a niche console for those who want more power, and for those who don't mind spending a bit more if they're diving in now. I'm going to assume that at least half of PS4P sales are from people upgrading. I think X1X is going to be the same. Power is nice, but price is also a pretty big factor, and PS4P still has that advantage over the X1X. Sony has managed to keep ahead of OGX1 with the PS4 in terms of price by being more expensive, but not so much that it's really that hard for people to pay a bit more. Same way the PS4P isn't much more than the OGPS4. But that's not the case with the X1X and X1.

That being said, games are where it's at, and overall, MS touting it's going to play them better doesn't mean jack squat in the real world when most games are going to appear the same...particularly those 3rd party games which aren't going to take advantage of the hardware. In the mean time, Sony has plenty of more 3rd party support that MS will never get, making it more attractive to more people beyond just those that look for the generally popular multi-plats.

Then of course there is GT. One of those few games which can be undisputedly be classified as a system seller. Might not significantly increase the sales of the PS4P, but will for the PS4 in general, and if Sony manages to maintain the 20% of new PS4's sold being pro, it's going to outsell the X1.

There are many factors which cause people to choose one system or another. While it's convienant to focus in on specific reasons, there is no one or two things which sell consoles. But one thing that actually gets people's attention is the games, and historically, the system that plays the games the best has never actually been the one that sold the most in the generation.

[Chevalier]

I would agree and argue that being able to play on the system with your friends is a bigger factor. Just look at how many people were buying games like Borderlands, BF, Halo, Gears, COD on 360 was telling. Now the biggest MP games, Fifa 18/ Red Dead 2/COD WW/Destiny/Star Wars Battlefront 2 all are tied to PS4.

[TheColbertinator]

Yes of course. In Microsoft we trust.

[Steveoreno1]

Wow......smh

[Greedsin]

Probably not and this is coming from a guy who's still waiting to have the chance to pre-order the damn thing.

But ya, honestly I don't think it will sell more then the PS4 Pro but I don't think it's suppose to anyway, not yet anyway. They are aiming at a 'premium' group of gamers who want the best of the best graphics in their games, besides myself. I just want it cause my original Xbox One is not doing to well due to reasons.

[authentic]

Not a chance. PS4 has a better and wider game variety, and a lot of games dlc comes to PS4 first. The slight visual advantage on X1X will not be enough for the majority of people. I will be buying one, though.

[Deathdeliverer]

It will outsell the PS4 Pro the first month of launch.

[Eonjay]

I believe the Pro sold 500k first month in US alone. And 20% of all PS4 sales since then... worldwide. So actual this is a trick question for those who rebel against facts. It would have to outsell the Xbox One launch in November with no less than 4 cheaper consoles.

[Deathdeliverer]

I think you guys are misunderstanding. OneX will out sale PS4 on its first month of release. Not that it will out sale PS in a launch date to launch date comparison. Anything new normally has a strong first month. It will new hardware fans running out for it whereas on PS it's business as usual. The months after will be tellling as I see ps back on top of sales at that point.

[Kingdomcome247]

Probably not. The only meaningful sales ratio between the two consoles that will have much bearing on me personally, will be the 1:1 ratio that represents the one of each console that will be sitting underneath my tv. Outside of that 1 :1 ratio in my home, I'll let you guys hash it all out.

[BlaqMagiq1]

It MIGHT come close to Pro sales but will never outsell it. Not in America and definitely not worldwide.

[showtimefolks]

We will never know Sony and MS won't compare pro vs x instead it will be ps4 vs Xbox one in overall sales

Either way hopefully all 3 console makers find success in their own ways

[tyasia0]

Sony has basically told people how many units the Pro has sold, they have stated 1 in 5 PS4's is a Pro.

[Chevalier]

At the rate PS4 is selling that would mean by the time the Xbox X launches the Pro will have about 4 million units sold. Maybe more if along with the Destiny bundle they release a Star Wars, COD WW and GT Sport bundles.

[yeahright2]

I disagree, if the 1x outsells the pro in NA I'd bet my bottom dollar MS will be screaming it from the mountain tops. If not, then we'll get the usual silence on actual sales and get some form of "it's doing great"

[BlackTar187]

if they outsell it will be SWETT JESUS WE'RE THE BEST

If they don't it will be Sales aren't what we brag about hohum we play games not sales. <===which is hilarious line in itself.

[segamaniaco]

At the time, the pro will be 349$, so NO

And will receive exclusive call of duty bundle

[DarkZane]

No, it's not possible. The PS4 Pro sales are 20% of the PS4 sales and even if the Xbox One X sold the same, which is 20% of the Xbox One shipments, it wouldn't even be close because the Xbox One sales are much lower.

Hell, I think even if the Xbox One X sales were 50% of the Xbox One sales, it would still be lower than the PS4 Pro.

[trooper_]

Short answer: No
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooo.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Yes X will beat Sigmas latest battle body.

[Vasto]

Yes, it will.

PS4 Pro is not selling well and Xbox One X is not even out yet.

[Eonjay]

PS Pro is selling well. And you know, your preference or mine just can't change facts.

[LP-Eleven]

"PS4 Pro is not selling well"

Not that I should expect a reasonable (nor actual) response here, but based on what?

[PhoenixUp]

How are we even going to know? Sony and Microsoft won't reveal the sales numbers of the iterations consoles

[talocaca]

I doubt it but could happen after a price drop.

Let's not forget that:
A) The difference in power to the original Xbox is way bigger than PS4 vs Pro....so more people might upgrade.
B) Many people might buy it for the 4K Blu-ray Drive
C) Microsoft fans might be more welcoming of a PC business model where hardware is upgraded more regularly.

Still, a PS4 Pro price drop would destroy the Xbox One X sales wise...$100 is already big....$150 would kill it.

[TheOttomatic91]

No not at $499.

[zb1ftw777]

Than the PS4? No.

Than the PS4Pro? Yes. The pro is a flop that isn't selling too well.

[Liqu1d]

How do you know?

[BlackTar187]

So zb what are the pros sales #'s?

[LP-Eleven]

That makes twice that I hear this "Pro is floppin'" chit-chat. Based. On. What?

[DialgaMarine]

Not even remotely possible. Pro has an advantage this holiday that X won't: price drop. Sony can temporarily drop the Pro's price to $350-ish, since the product will be a year old. X basically has to stay at $500 since it's brand new. And let's be honest, $150 difference for minimal improvements won't end up X's favor for most consumers.

[jznrpg]

My friend owns a game shop and I haven't heard one person that comes in ask about xbox one x , but I have seen a ton of people selling there xb1s and xb1 for ps4s or cash

[FyBy]

It really depends on software. If you look through past, you see, that lot of "most powerful consoles" were not so much profitable and usually didnt mean any breakthrough in company sales.

Thats because if people buy console, they look for very good games. There are few, that seek only power.

[rainslacker]

Power has always been a thing to market, but really didn't make much difference in the end. Even when there was a rather stark difference in power between consoles in any gen, the games are what sold the consoles. This is, was, and always will be the case.

[UKmilitia]

another bull article,but lets look at the facts,ps4 pro been out longer and will be able to cut price quicker and to top it off games games games

[DarXyde]

In the West, probably for a while.

But Sony has one weapon that is certain to seriously shift units: The Last of Us, Part II.

I actually would not be surprised if that's the game that gets pre-existing owners to upgrade on top of new owners. As far as new IPs go, it's a remarkable success.

[BlackTar187]

I would think Spiderman is biger then last of us for new adopters to ps4 imo

[DarXyde]

It's certainly possible. With the success of Homecoming, it makes a lot of sense. Be that as it may, the PS3 version of The Last of Us alone came close to breaking 6 million units...physically. No idea about digital sales if we treat VGChartz as reliable. This also does not account for the new players on PS4.

But who is to say that both won't do exceptionally well?

[BlackTar187]

I think they will both do extremely well. I just think Spiderman fans are the least likely to own a system then Last of us/Naughty dog

It doesn't really matter cause i agree with you as well

[rainslacker]

I think Gran Turismo is likely to drive more sales this year than any other game they have to offer, and those other games will also push consoles, because GOW, and Spider-Man will be pretty big games when they release.

[Matrix6]

The article's opinion is great to hear and all, but everybody will have a similar thought.
I, myself, foresee a permanent price drop for the PS4 Pro later this year which will help current owners decide to upgrade. Potentially, it may also help push those on the fence between and Xbox One X or a PS4 Pro.
In the long run, I don't believe the Xbox One X will surpass the PS4 Pro sales. IMO of course.

[conanlifts]

That is a big ask.It is possible but not likely. The last article i saw about the ps4 pro said that 1 in 5 ps4's sold were the pro model. This is approximately 50% of the current xbox one sales numbers.

[welly300]

You are getting value for money but its a lot for most console gamers. If a there is a massive improvement in 3rd party games then i might just have to.

[Yohshida]

It would be a shame if it didnt. If a upscaling machine can outsell a 4k Monster we know Gaming is in a sad state

[BlackTar187]

yea man so sad that the system that puts out a ton more games in a ton more genres would outsell a system that struggles to deliver content on a yearly basis for the last like 6 years. Sad stat in deed poor gaming market

[rainslacker]

Yeah, while the PS fan base is bordering on feeling like we're about to hit another golden age of gaming, MS fans are hyped about more power where they can supposedly get their multi-plats to look better, while waiting 4-6 months for that exclusive content to release.

The sad state isn't in the gaming industry, rather just on the Xbox side of things. Even Nintendo has more interesting games on tap for the future than MS has been able to show for the past 2 years.

Truth is, most people don't care about native or upscaled 4K. That's just some crap forum console war debate, which doesn't actually translate to the real world. This is the first gen where the most powerful console has had the lead....and while they're about to lose that most powerful edge....history has shown that the console that sells the most, is the one that has the most and perceived best games.

[outlawstar59]

no

[corroios]

No one will never know, because microsoft doesnt reveal numbers, but they will say biggest ever launch.

[xsta1ker]

if Microsoft has a good trade in deal @ launch say 100 off with your existing xb1 or ps4 it will definitely outsell the
the pro in us & uk.

[WilliamSheridan]

Probably won't outsell the Pro. But I think there's a long game to think about. It really comes down to how Sony plays it with the PS5. If they treat it like a true generational release, then MS had a chance to pull ahead by having a built in install base, and using that to make Xbox X the lead console when making games. This would give PS5 upgraded ports. At that point, Sony sales hurt due to modest upgrades, and MS can use the edge to lock down many third party exclusives. But again, it all depends if Sony truly tries to keep it like a regular generational release, or more of an upgrade like Xbox X.

[guyman]

No.

[Kosic]

I don't think the Xbox one x will be that strong in sales.
The price point is extremely high for a console. It might be good value for it's specs but I personally wouldn't drop £450 on it.

Also I don't feel Xbox is the place for gaming this gen. Had an Xbox one barely played it sold it recently. No one I knew had an Xbox one so it would be hard fitting in multiplayer games with my mates if I'm the only one with an X.

[Nightmar3Demom]

No

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

I mean lets look at what the xbox one X's selling point is. "Most powerful console ever" Ok cool.

Let's look at the recent history of consoles and what sells better. In every case, the most powerful console was never the winner. I don't think microsoft understands what console gamers truly want. Most powerful is something that applies to pc gamers, and why would they care when you can get everything on xbox 1 on a pc now and on better hardware?

[link2Dpast]

Lmao damn some people are so blind. Of course it won't sell more, it won't even sell more than the Switch even with the shortage there having, man I bet it won't even sell more than the Snes Mini. People talking about games this and this game that, hello the whole point of X1X was the whole doing 4K right niche and last time I checked to play 4k you need a 4K TV set. Only logical bundle I see the X1X doing to even have a shot at selling on a mediocre level is a 4kTv/ system bundle but that'll easily hit the 1k mark. Honestly if we cared more for the quality of what we got, these developers and companies would put more into it for example it's Crazy to see the core of hard headed blinded fans the Xbox has, I get Nintendo with all the history and first party titles or the Sega dreamers dreaming for a new life Sega system but what is there enough of to support Microsoft/Xbox and keep giving them your hard earned money. They have nothing other than Halo and Gears which popularity wise use to sell systems but not so much anymore. All these half done systems, pro unable to play 4k movies but has somewhat 4k gameplay, then Xbox1S has 4k movie player but no 4k gameplay, now X1X is 4k and they push it with the whole "we'll be doing backwards compatibility all the way back to the original Xbox" lmao what a way to intice me to switch to a 4k system. It's ironic gamers loathe and can't stand half done games but support half done systems, stop buying these duds and like the good ole days wait for the true next gen system.

[WilliamSheridan]

Honestly, this site is really just a mess. I'm so sick of reading the anti MS nonsense on here. It's just too strong...

[link2Dpast]

I'm a fan of gaming and I just believe gaming is going deeper and deeper Into the upgrade abyss. It's absurd what these companies are doing and sorry to say man MicrXbox is guilty as they come. I've literally bought every Xbox system and have sold all of them, it's definitely an over sized paper weight. Forza cool great graphics but how interesting can driving stay, Halo incredible but same issue and so on and so on with Xbox. They've got rare and don't utilize them right, like just do a Banjo kazooie remaster similar to crash, something man. The fact there still here simply because there Microsoft sucks. I won't deny original Xbox was great with online game play with Halo via gamespy PC program but those times have passed. A company like Sega going down the drain because of money issues is such a bumber. The assets they have and can utilize blows Xbox out the water but there gone and it's just as mind blowing. Gaming is Bells, whistles, glitter, basically the biggest one that stand out, not quality

[WilliamSheridan]

You need to read up on your Sega history a little more. Anyway, more fanboy crap. Paperweight? For Christ's sake a gamer would appreciate the user friendly controller, UI, features, streaming integration, online network. And since everyone says Xbox One X will only look marginally better than Pro, you should appreciate that Xbox looks only slinky worse than PS4. If you don't like it's exclusives, that's fine, but dont state such ridiculous things. A real gamer has both and defends both...

[Mbofa6om]

Yes for sure
Xbox one family has a long period of lifetime so its' just the begining... sony will launch ps5 soon 🙄

[goken]

i don't expect the x to outsell the pro.
if i had to spend $500 i'd grab a switch, a Xbox slim (although i kinda struggle to find a good reason beyond gears to get a one) and some games during the black friday sales... (not gonna get a ps4 cos i already have a pro).
not sure if most people will think like me though

[holtzy]

no

[Father__Merrin]

Never!!!

[inxine]

maybe the launch month. but i doubt it. its too expensive.

[Ulf]

Yes, because the PS4 Pro was half-baked, and the demographic who bought it are likely to run out and buy the Xbox One X, because they can afford it.

On top of that, outside of the silly people who honestly believe Sony is going to run the PS4 into the ground in 1-2 years by announcing an upcoming PS5 (lol?), Anyone who wants the best console will see no competition, and will run out and get a Xbox One X -- you can bet a lot of them *didn't* buy a PS4 Pro specifically because they were waiting on the "Scorpio".

[WickedLester]

No. Pro will drop in price to 349.99 the same week the X1X launches and a 150.00 difference along with a much better library of exclusives is pretty compelling.

[Ulf]

If I could afford a premium console, I could probably afford both consoles.

I'd buy a PS4 slim for the exclusives, and a Xbox One X for everything else. Frankly, I would probably already own a PS4, and would have known about the Scorpio before the PS4 Pro was released, since it was announced first... and hence, waited.

[kevnb]

it probably will for a month or two, but not long term.

[PaulFiend]

Never, nowhere.

[Major_Glitch]

Outsell the Pro?! Hahaha...oh wait you're serious.
The xxboxx won't even outsell the Switch, let alone the Pro. Mainstream gamers are not only NOT excited about it, but like many of us, are scratching their heads wondering why MS would release a $500 mid-gen upgrade that has ZERO exclusives.

[GrimDragon]

An incremental upgrade at full upgrade prices I think not. At least ps4pro has psvr as an excuse.

[burza1982]

60fps > 4k resolution
Few games already announced will go only with 30fps on X Box One X, so where is that big powerful console I'm asking?

[WeAreLegion]

Not with Sony's marketing deals. Destiny 2 bundle will be a big seller.

God of War bundle. Spider-Man bundle. Red Dead Redemption 2 bundle.

[Chevalier]

COD WW, Star Wars Battlefront 2 and GT Sport bundles would destroy. Then add in Fifa 18 bundle in Europe would mop up the rest.

[Mr_Skyfish]

Is Water Dry... No!

[Retroman]

What load of crap. Title of article should of been " will the Hotdog outsell the Hamburger "

Good Lord, truly must be snail day at the office .
must be getting Harder for editors come-up with lies to keep gamers attacking each others.

my personal opinion : if X1 Achieve that i salute MS .
in reality, ONLY way MS able to defeat Pspro is to take a loss each console by lowering the price to 350 with bundle game That's not happening .

[headblackman]

beating the ps4 pro won't be a problem for the xbox one x, but beating the ps4 line as a whole, could be a hard task, considering the huge numbers over the xbox one brand as a global whole. so the answer is yes! the xbox one x sales numbers (by itself) can beat the ps4 sales numbers (by itself).

[andrewsquall]

Depends. We are talking about a platform here, PS4, with an install base of over 60 million that doesn't really find it a necessity to upgrade given the incredible capabilities of the standard console with basic native 1080p in most of its biggest games.
Then you have the Xbone install base that, going by what people say here, NEEDS to upgrade their standard Xbone (even the revised one they bought only 9 months ago) with an XboneX.
Still impossible to say though, these are the same people that overhyped Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break and Recore and then never bought those either.

[BeRealisticNow]

No. Maybe for a month or two here and there, depending on what is coming out, but long term it looks unlikely
Of course anything is possible, but I don't think a big sales increase for MS will be coming unless they have a big E3 next year

[SpartaNNNN]

Well, to be honest It can, lets just wait for future, time will tell us.

[wheresmymonkey]

The xbox One has a tough enough time justifying its existence. The X has it even worse because at the price point you could just build fully upgradeable (and probably higher spec) PC and still have access to basically the whole xbox library.

[Warshade]

Every Xbox fan who already bought it will still buy this on launch day anyway. Some other people will too. For a couple months Microsoft will be happy with their sales numbers. It will have a price drop and 50 dollar off deals within a year.

[Gunstar75]

Who cares?

[jugo14]

i just saw a uncharted 4 ps4 slim for 230 bux....I know its not the pro but no way in hell will it outsell the ps4....pro....maybe....still havent seen any games that would make me go, oh shit, I need that x1x

[ASBO-5]

Holy hell is it April 1st already????

[frostypants]

To even think it could would betray a total lack of grasp of the industry.

[marquisray]

He'll yes, this is how I see it, Microsoft gave everyone a year to save up to but the x, so all of the people saying it cost to much had more then enough time to save up. I'm getting 2 myself, I had more than enough time to save up and I'm getting a new 4k tv. So ease Don not tell me it cost to much, I'm also saving up to buy me a used Porsche panamara, I could just buy me a Ford a Chevy or a Nissan but I'm saving my money to buy what I want so I have no excuse

[cfc78]

With the gap between XB1 and XB1X larger than ps4 and ps4 pro in terms of an upgrade maybe it will at some point.

[ApexWolf22]

No...